Clone Them!



I hadn’t really heard the music of Delhi’s popular rock band, Them Clones, before getting a copy of their debut album, love. hate. heroes (EMI, Rs 195). One reason for not having heard them was, of course, the fact that although Them Clones have been a hot act on the gig circuit, I haven’t been to a rock concert in many years, preferring the infinitely more sedentary option of listening to music via downloads and most typically on my mp3 players with the phones stuck deep into my ear canals.

I was quite surprised by the love. hate. heroes CD and it had not much to do with the music. Don’t think I’m knocking their music, though, because it’s good wholesome rock by five chaps who have a pretty big fan following and who have been playing gigs and headlining festivals for many years. Only that I’m leaving the review of love. hate. heroes to my colleague, Indrajit Hazra, who will sooner than later review it in his popular weekly column, Rock ‘n’ Roll Circus. What surprised me about Them Clones’ first album were two things. First, the package included two CDs—one recorded with a dozen songs that the band have put on the album—and the second a blank CD. “Clone This CD,” said a legend on the packaging, “This is a blank CD. Copy our CD. Spread the Music.”

you can rip and copy their CD, and pass it on to a friend

CHAIN MUSIC: Them Clones’ music is good, wholesome rock, but what sets the popular band apart is how they reach out to fans: you can rip and copy their CD, and pass it on to a friend

I thought it was a rather cool way for a band to reach its fans. The second part of it was even better. Each CD pack comes with a ‘cloning code’ that you can use on the band’s website where you can enter the emails of three friends and get, in return, a free track to download—a track that’s not on their debut CD.

And once your three friends do the same thing—that is, get on the website and enter three more emails—you get access to even more Them Clones music. Remember chain mails (send this letter to five or six or 10…others and good luck will befall you)? Well, in Them Clones’ case, this is a multiplying chain that actually bears fruit—in the shape of free mp3s.

Download Central has often mentioned bands who routinely put up their music on the net for free downloads—sometimes as a teaser of one or two tracks before the album is released. Only last week, I talked about soul revivalists Fitz and The Tantrums who were giving away their new EP for free on their website. And heavyweights like Radiohead have given away entire albums for free. Well, not free really but when the band put out In Rainbows for downloading it gave you the option of paying whatever you wanted to pay. Or, nothing at all. Even Sony Music put one track, Beyond Here Lies Nothin’, out on Bob Dylan’s official website before his album, Together Through Life, was released.

But putting up music for free isn’t something that’s new. Touring bands do that routinely. If you go to the popular website, Nugs Net, you can get a ‘free stash’ that has full concerts of a host of bands. Some bands, such as Phish, have put up as many as 52 of their shows for free downloading. In addition, many new indie bands use mp3 blogs as a platform to distribute their music—if not full albums—at least pre-release leaks of a track or two. Glaswegian indie-rockers, Frightened Rabbit, are scheduled to release their third studio album next March, but I downloaded live versions of two brilliant tracks ( Living In Colour and Nothing Like You) that they performed for BBC and have distributed on the net.

What sets the innovation (a blank CD and a code to download extra music) by Them Clones is that it goes a notch above spreading the message about a band you like by mere word of mouth. With the blank CD, Them Clones make it easy for you to rip and copy the music and pass it on to a friend. And the multiplier effect of submitting emails of three people on the band’s website is self-evident. In case, you’re wondering about copyright issues, Them Clones’ album is licensed under Creative Commons, which gives a buyer the right to share and even remix the album as long as it is not for commercial purposes.

What is particularly refreshing about the Them Clones approach is its non-gimmicky straightforwardness. In 2002, alternative metal/hard-rock band System of A Down had released an album that was called Steal This Album! That was perhaps inspired by another gimmicky book written by an equally gimmicky man called Abbie Hoffman in 1970, titled Steal This Book! Both were neither free nor could they be stolen easily. With love. hate. heroes, Them Clones offers a potentially effective (and fun) way for bands to market themselves. I think there’s a lesson in that for music companies as well as new bands.

This week’s download reccos:

  1. Return of the Dead: Jerry-less but with the brilliant Warren Haynes, nearly two hours of tracks from gigs that the Dead played this year.
  2. Horchata: a brand new track from Vampire Weekend’s new album Contra, DUE OUT IN JANUAR
  3. Stars of The Lid: John Peel used to like them. A duo that does minimalist music that is quiet and soothing.

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  • http://roadsandreasons.blogspot.com/ Ashish

    Real interesting move with the blank CD and cloning code. Hope it works.
    I was also fascinated with what Radiohead did with In Rainbows. I must admit though, that I did not pay for the download. Picked up the physical CD much later.

    Last year, the Nine Inch Nails did the same thing with their release The Slip. Completely free (licensed under Creative Commons), and in various formats. In fact, it’s still available for download from their website.

    I’m looking forward to the new Vampire Weekend album. Loved the new tracks, Cousins and Horchata. Thanks for putting it up.

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    Nikhil Reply:

    I’ve been to a number of the Clones’ gigs over the last 4 years…I once heard Zephyretta playing when I stepped out of home, and drove down, following the music, to a gig at SRCC. Love their music.

    About the ‘Clone this album’ initiative, perhaps it’s a function of the market that they operate in: the primary source of income for bands in India has been events. Like in case of new authors and book publishers, its rare for a band to get anything significant from an established label, except publicity. So why not give the music for free, and let it spread. I’m surprised that EMI agreed to this.

    Lots of Indian bandsgive away their music for free: Thermal And A Quarter (album : Plan B) and MenWhoPause (album: home) once seeded torrents of their albums. I quite like Warren’s Blackstratblues (download at http://www.blackstratblues.com) and the self titled Colurblind album from a band featuring Ram Sampath who is now a bollywood music composer.

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Yes, I know many Indian bands give away their music but I sort of like the blank CD concept: the ’share our music with your friends’ thing.

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    ninjabilli Reply:

    I really liked the Blackstratblues album. Other free albums by Indian bands I downloaded recently were Tough On Tobacco’s “The Happy Goat” (http://download.toughontobacco.in/), PINKNOISE’s live album (http://pinknoise.bandcamp.com/) and Sridhar’s “Transcend (http://www.gimmesound.com/Sridhar/). All of which were great albums. What this also does is give me a huge incentive to go see them whenever they perform, pay the entry fee, and introduce me to bands outside my own city.
    I’m not a very big Clones fan, I’m a bit bored of them now frankly, however I appreciate what they’re doing in terms of releasing the music.
    I’m a big NIN fan and I was super excited when they put Ghosts and The Slip for free download. Same with their NIN/JA tour sampler. Also encouraged Saul Williams to do the same which, I hear didn’t work out very well in terms of returns for him, but it was a great album.
    PS: I’m also excited for the new Vampire Weekend album. The video is awesome.

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    Nikhil Reply:

    Thanks for the link to the Pink Noise album. What happened to Skinny Alley?

    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    I didn’t pay for the In Rainbows download either. But then I bought the physical CD later! So my conscience is clear :)

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  • vipul vivek

    I saw a track by Them (‘My life’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UMB4Im6VQ4) on a music channel (I don’t remember which one — MTV/V/VH1) but then forgot them. It was when I came across this review in The Caravan (http://caravanmagazine.delhipress.in/index.aspx?issue=issue19) that I recalled them.

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    Sarthak Madan Reply:

    T’was in VH1 India Rocks. :D :D

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  • Chandrashekhar Karekar

    not to forget Black Crowes new album,Before the Frost/Untill the freeeze.The latter is free download.

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  • jeff

    now that u’ve started with the clones… think it would be fair enough to expose some more… it just

    makes ur anlaysis more secular… here are a few i think u should check out….

    avial, taaq, lounge piranha (very radioheadish), jyg, Parachute XVI, zebediah plush (extinct now, but

    the music exists in some link) …there r so many..tht i think u’ll have to go city wise…good luck !

    cheers !

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    thanks. shall check them out. Avial is playing in Delhi on Sunday….

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    jayashree singh Reply:

    Dear Sanjoy,

    I am a regular reader of your column and look forward to it every week.

    We’d love for you to take a look at our work on http://www.pinknoise.bandcamp.com where our live soon to be released DVD Quirkwork is availabe for free download.

    Cheers and thanks!

    Jay

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    sure, jayashree. shall do. have heard you live in many avatars…. :)

  • http://profiles.google.com/clovesncinnamon Puja .

    This surely read like a treasure trove. I loved roaming around in CP, leafing through books to find out something that catches my eye.

    Great compilation of the book stores around CP, especially the history part. The pictures are intriguing, completing the imagery of an evening in the company of books and coffee for company.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————

    SWITCH ON UR TV — TIMES NOW RIGHT NOW !!
    —————————————————————————————–

    The son of the original smiling cobra– Ejaz ul haq s/o Zia ul Haq… is claiming that Osama was never in Paksitan.

    It is all a conspiracy theory to defame Paksitan !!

    HA AHHAHA !!!

    These are the slimy jokers, UPA trolls find dependable and want us to compromise India’s security with !!

    Really funny!

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji

    There is no hope for the likes of her. One word description that says it all – megalomaniac. Her immediate supporters are equally megalomaniacs.

    There have been enough megalomaniac in history and all of them had to bite the dust.

    On the federalism front for which she has made so much noise, there is a test for her coming up.

    The RPF Bill 2012 which the Railway Minister supposed to table in this session of parliament. We will see how much support she gets from the federalist chief ministers, as it will encroach on powers of the state police forces.

    ————-
    Here are the salient features.

    If the legislation is passed in Parliament, it will be for the first time that a paramilitary force will be given policing powers in the country.

    The bill also aims at eliminating multiplicity of authorities as the RPF will be solely responsible for tackling crime in railway premises.

    Currently, the GRP under the state government is responsible for dealing with crime at rail stations and trains while the RPF’s role is restricted to protecting railway properties.

    Since the GRP is controlled by the state government, there are boundary issues. “If a theft takes place in a Delhi- bound train in Bihar, then FIR will not be registered in Delhi,” the official said.

    “It will be registered where the crime has taken place. It not only creates inconvenience to passengers but also affects the investigation process.”

    Once the law is enacted, the GRP will be withdrawn from Railway premises across the country. RPF will be responsible for registering FIRs and there will be no boundary issue involved.

    ————

    Sounds similar to NCTC and BSF Acts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Manohar isn’t democracy wonderful!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. Do you have any other alternative, which is even more wonderful?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    test

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistani-British MP offers reward for Obama’s capture

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Pakistani-British-MP-offers-reward-for-Obamas-capture/articleshow/12691960.cms

    A Pakistani-origin member of the House of Lords was suspended from the Labour party after it was reported he had offered a reward of 10 million pounds for the capture of US President Barack Obama.

    Nazir Ahmed — the Lord Ahmed of Rotherham — reportedly made the offer after the US announced a $10 million bounty for Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammed Saeed, who was blamed for orchestrating the 2008 Mumbai terror attack.

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    Ravi would you like to throw more light?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sure RSS and BJP and Modi must be behind this :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    By the way, Nazir went in with a visa to UK… unless of course you fantasize that he fell down from the apple tree….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I will reiterate, I will never trust Pakistan state.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan

    Pakistan is just cooking up this feeling of friendship to delude the UPA while it launches an all out war in Afghanistan. For some time it will keep the eastern bornder cool. Trolls on this side will jump with joy “ki ab toh dosti ho gayi…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No one is asking us to trust them and we do not have to lower our guard and we are not.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    No trust no relation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just recall – for example, USA and Japan as enemies during World War II and then thereafter. The world and relations do not remain static. You wish to remain frozen in time -suit yourself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Comparing US and Japan with India and Pakistan is not even comparing
    apples with oranges which are both fruits. I don’t even have an example with
    whom I could compare.

    Anonymous Reply:

    IndiaPakistan can be compared to horse-gramand bull shit.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    No this is not the right approach. You need not to have intimate relation but Dushmani bhi ek relation hai. Ignoring some body is bigger folly. Would like in details about this on weakend probably but create relationship and keep a wary eye.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    They always carry dagger with them and whenever they get a chance they
    will stab you in the back. Keeping relations with them will give them more chances of stabbing.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Shaista Khan aur Shivaji ki kahani Yaad karain. Sorry for one liner,.I can not take risk like Shivaji, Job ka mamla hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is what I have been trying to tell him, but ‘woh meri baat maantaa hi nahin’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    I discern a strong desire for harmony in our relations with Pakistan. Nothing wrong with it, particularly as you are far away from the motherland.

    You may even wholeheartedly approve the meaning of this song as applied to Indo-Pak relations:

    रंजिश ही सही दिल ही दुखाने के लिए आ
    आ फिर से मुझे छोड़ के जाने के लिए आ ।

    पहले से मरासिम न सही फिर भी कभी तो
    रस्म-ओ-रह-ए-दुनिया ही निभाने के लिए आ

    But, we must also confront the ground realities.

    I would request you to visit the old blog, where I have quoted the New Indian Express editorial on this “great rush” of friendship our UPA government is experiencing presently.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is how appeasement of “minorities” ends up. The British people are far too politically correct and have brought this upon themselves. Even after making such remarks, this gentleman has only been suspended and not dismissed from the Labour party.

    The policy of Labour party on appeasing the Muslims surpasses a number of parties in our country.

    Ravi – please let us know more on this – you would have a better idea on why such a statement was made by Nazir Ahmed while away from the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    I think you are right. In the appeasement department, the Labour Party is the same as our congress party. The suspension is only temporary..

    What is alarming is the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in the Muslim community of UK and other Europian countries.

    I think they can no m ore skirt the issue.

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  • Anonymous

    Terror group Lashkar asks Kashmiri panchayat leaders to quit

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Terror-group-Lashkar-asks-Kashmiri-panchayat-leaders-to-quit/articleshow/12690849.cms

    Villagers of Pulwama district in south Kashmir on Monday found warning posters issued by Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), asking panchs and sarpanchs (village leaders) elected last year in panchayat elections to resign from their posts within a week.

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    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    If Rahul Gandhi asks LET to desist from doing this, they may agree and
    withdraw their warning.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So please request him to do so and see if it works.
    You know the usual couriers to carry your messages/requests.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I would happily do that but the problem is he does not listens to Sanghis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Must he know that you are sanghi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes,
    LeT cannot ignore the request from a well wisher.
    Rahul can send the request through his Sancho Panza, Digvinash Singh, with the suggestion that he is the most hated person by the RSS.
    Maximum chances for LeT to cease and desist.

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  • Anonymous

    Maharashtra civic polls: Cong sweeps Latur; No. 1 in 3 other bodies

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/maha-civic-polls-cong-sweeps-latur;-no.-1-in-3-other-bodies/937480/0

    Excerpts

    Congress and NCP, ruling alliance partners in the state government, contested the polls separately.

    Voting was held in Latur, Chandrapur and Parbhani which were upgraded into corporations and also in Malegaon and Bhiwandi-Nizampur corporations.
    —————
    Polling was held for 371 seats in the 5 corporations. Following is the final tally: Congress-149, NCP-64, Shiv Sena -46, BJP-28, MNS-3, BSP-1, other state parties-21, registered parties-31 and independents-28.

    ============

    Where is Anna Hazare?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    be happy with peanuts (woh bhi jala hua) …. while we enjoy the cream

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    The worst scenario staring at India now is UPA lowering our guard against terror from Paksitan. Yesterday I tested out three bloggers– Ravi, mahesh and Manohar. All of them could only see my apprehensions as a BJP, RSS opposition to friendship with our neighbour who is being given a bad name, unnecessarily, by the US.

    Manoharji even made fun of my fear that terrorists can come thru becasue of easy visa norms. He is not ready to believe that Mohammad Atta and co, Dawood Gilani and co, Masood Azhar and co, Abdul Rahim Tunda and co, came in first thru regular visas.

    Such is the capacity of delusion. Anyway I am just getting inputs… for a project…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Peanuts will last longer, while the cream turns rancid within a short time. Enjoy your “khaTTi malaai”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MCD election results of Delhi should be with us by tomorrow afternoon.

    BJP may not do as well as last time. You would also get your share of Malaai – have them before they turn sour!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    It was your choice of having cream. I will stick to peanuts (they last longer), whatever the results.

  • Anonymous

    Vijay-

    Not all single lady politicos are crazy.

    Our Lady (sounds like a Jesuit School!) is all brains; pragmatic, focused, and transforming the place. We really feel it here. vi va vibrant!

    Gone are the thugs’ rule of Karunanidhi and family – an ex minister is arrested in connection with the cover up of a murder, and nine ex ministers//MLAs are arrested for the land grabs during DMK admn.

    She put out a vision doc; the consensus of the business community is that 65-75% will get executed in the ten year horizon.

    The 2014 Lok Sabha elections will be an interim assessment of her performance. Her party won a by-election recently with huge majority trouncing Karunanidhi’s people, who lost the security deposit!

    Karunanidhi is trying his old snake habits, throwing the Sri Lanka, Dalit, or Muslim issues at the voters to see which one sticks; so far no takers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Frankly I am getting more and more impressed by Jaya. I had one impression of her that she was corrupt, becasue of the cases against her. But she seems to have come a long way.

    In contrast Karuna famil looks a bad copy of the family saga at the centre.

    If Jaya makes it to the centre… I have a feeling she will be a good PM. But SHoeb, you run a business and you know running an enterprise means delegating power to the right people.

    Will she be willing to let others share the spotlight?

    Maywati was never able to digest that. In fact she would make sure no petite or smart lady sat tnext to her.

    I sum total, jaya could well be a good PM.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    She is an entirely different person this time, giving lots of responsibilities to her ministers and select bureaucrats. I believe she is going for “legacy” this time, at least as the modern equivalent of the old Chola Kings who brought glory to the old Tamil Nadu region, if not at an all -India level.

    With stable politics, with Karuna vanquished, she can put the focus on rapid development – and she is well-focused.

    She speaks Hindi and English well, so also all the South Indian languages and Marathi; and with her “white” colour she can woo the rural folks in other states if she does national campaigning for the coalition she will affiliate with – at this time it looks like NDA, she and Modi are good buddies.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Shoeb, Ishwar, Mohan,

    Jayalalithaa has acted in a couple of Hindi movies, besides more than 200 Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada pictures.

    SHe was able to set millions of hearts aflutter every three hours (in theatres) and even now, she is all grace and intelligence. She has, besides the other pluses, courage bordering on irrationality, and foresight.

    If the NDA plays its cards well, she can rally the non-congress forces around herself and drive away the family-run business to the distant shores of Italy and Beyond.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes… I think she would be good. I hope she takes some assistance to handle the media in case it gets combative, without goign down the Mamta road.

    She knows the ground situation well and would be much much much better then the Congress chotta baba who owuld probably find it difficult to locate TN o a geography map.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    yesterday night was one of the funniest nights in my life. The son of the smilling cobra was smiling on Times now and claiming

    “That Osama probably never existed …. and was never in Pakistan… all these are media stories to spoil the fair name of pure Paksitan !! ”

    Funny.. some Indians , even out here, would probably beleive him. !

    But even though I have a tough long day ahead… starting from goign down into a basement and checking out the foundation soil capacity etc in the sun,. I am sure everyone will see me smile !!! :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    In comparison to say SOnia, mamta and Mayawati… she wins by a mile.

    She will make a good PM. Her handling of Karuna, who has unleashed his entire family onto the state resources is commendable. She also did not sway along communal lines or on regional lines during the LTTE years.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    My respect for this lady is growing everyday. I wish other CM’s also
    follow her model of governing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    Why do you think the CM is opposed to the expansion of metro in Chennai? Most state govts. want to replicate the success story of Delhi Metro in their cities.

    Ex-DMRC chief says that the monorail option preferred by the CM is more expensive and can be used as a feeder service to the metro network at the best. I don’t have reasons to not beleive what he says.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I believe she will come around as she did for the nuclear plant.

    I sense the issue of Mono vs Metro has a lot to do with her animosity to Karunanidhi – she believes Karunanidhi is a total crook, not a patriot and not interested in Indias welfare . Metro was Karunanidhi’s initiative.

    She may be mistakenly believing that Mono will put her on world map – as you know it is supposed to be the largest monorail.

    My guess is that she will go with Mr Sridharan’s recommendation, although a global tender has been placed..

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  • Anonymous

    Bal Thackeray ’shocked’ at Maha’s ‘contract to feed a snake’

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Bal-Thackeray-shocked-at-Mahas-contract-to-feed-a-snake/937438/

    Terming as “shocking” the Maharashtra Government’s decision to share water with people in the scarcity-hit districts in neighbouring Karnataka, Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray today said the Congress-led government in Maharashtra has “betrayed” the state.

    “It seems that Maharashtra government has taken a contract to feed a snake. In Karnataka, immense atrocities are being heaped on Marathi-speaking people but our government has forgotten those atrocities and decided to share water with that state,” Thackeray said, in an editorial in party mouthpiece Saamana.

    ————-

    Now who is calling someone a snake?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This whole water/river issue is nonsense.

    These are Indias rivers – not Thackrey’s nor Karunanidhi’s.

    The Cauvery water issue (sharing between karnataka and Tamil Nadu) , the Mul;laperiyar issue (Kerala and Tamil Nadu), the Narmada issue (Karnataka/Maharashtra) are older than me.

    Ambedkar and co were focused on classifying minorities and majorities while drafting the constituition while ignoring little things like water.

    Just imagine how simple things would have been had they included rivers were national property (nobody would have objected because we did not have linguistic states then)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi -

    Water from the Colorado river is used by all downstream western states in USA. California’s abundant agricultural crops/lands will be non-existent without this water. I do not think there is any water sharing agreement between those states.(Rajeev,Pankaj,Benoy – any insights?)

    How do other large democratic countries handle their water resource among their various regions/states?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    That is why I am suggesting that lets build on water security – all these river wars will be over.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thackrey calling Shenoy a snake?

    That’s okay.

    We need to live with our new found love for federalism.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Surely Bal Thakre must have visited this blog and checked out. What did he find out – that the resident abuser’s target was Mahesh – a Marathi Manoos and surely that is never tolerated by the Shiv Sena (how dare you abuse a son of the soil) , hence the invective.

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  • Anonymous

    Three cheers to Parliament
    Gopalkrishna Gandhi

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3321341.ece?homepage=true

    Chennai comes up with innovative ideas. ‘Prime Point,’ set up by a gentleman known in true Tamil Nadu-style as ‘Prime Point Srinivasan,’ has instituted a set of awards for parliamentarians called Sansad Ratna Awards. ‘PP’ felicitously chose Ambedkar Jayanti for the conferment ceremony this year and conferred the honour on four MPs:

    Anand Rao Adsul — Number 1 in Questions (754). The total tally of debates, private bills and questions raised — 784.

    Hansraj Gangaram Ahir — Number 1 in private bills — 20 in number. Questions raised — 755.

    S.S. Ramasubbu — Number 3 at the all-India level with a total score of 742 questions. Attendance — 97 per cent.

    Arjun Ram Meghwal — Number 1 in debates with 251 debates to his credit. Attendance — 100 per cent.

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    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~~ KYA HAI ISS CD KA TERRIFIC SACH ???~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    Abhishek Manu Singhvi’s drvver has shot this.

    headlines today wants to broadcast it as a sting …. !!

    India Today wants to do a stroy on this.

    Abhishek Singhiv has taken a court order against it calling it something which will damage his repuration irreparably and forever….

    Well when other CD’s can come out… why not this one???

    Sach pata lage ya nahi

    Or are the trolls going to do a dandiya…”Modi modi rape rape…?”

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  • Anonymous

    Is India prepared to defend if there is a war?

    The shocking truth about India’s armed forces.

    http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-the-shocking-truth-about-india-s-armed-forces/20120417.htm

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    more shocking is the way UPA is capitulating to absolve Pakistan and be friends… after getting NOTHING in return. This lowering of guard will probably result in a terror didvidend , like the Afghianistan got , 3 days back. UPA Uncle hafeez saeed has already promised this.

    Mohan, one gud joke which i saw on TImes form My office last night. General Zia’s son telling Arnab that Osama was never in Paksitan… it is all a media story.!!

    They say it with such conviction… I think they have started beleving it themselves… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I am wondering whether our friend Engrich is the source of Zia’s son or it is other way around.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Maybe Engrich is zia’s son !

    Simple as that !

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, to be fair to engrich, we have not understood him properly or fully.

    He gets activated only when there is a Zionst, Brhmnst conspiracy. Zia the cobra’s son said clearly that it was an American conspiracy.s

    Anonymous Reply:

    Over night Vijay’s Uncle became UPA’s uncle !

    Some transformation !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ;-) ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you have full reason to smile as ur pal supports the LeT and like a true domesti you will for sure :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh comeon

    He was always UPA’s uncle. UPA wanted him tombecome India’s uncle.

    Vijay is one guy who has truth as his mentor.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You just wanted to be known as his celebrated Bhatija for some time ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    He was factually right, though.

    Osama was found in Pak-shit-stan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely… next to a smiling cobra…!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    We lost the 1962 Chinese war because our Jawans did not have anything to fight with.

    Both Nehru and his defence minister and fellow socialist from Oxford or wherever Krishna Menon were very good in making speeches all over the world while Chinese, even in those days, were equipping their army.

    At least in 1962 we had a legitimate money – food or gun – issue. We do not have it now.

    I blame the military. The article says the ministry has given a goal of fighting in two fronts simultaneously. It is military’s role to come up with the “list” of stuff to do that; however it looks like they are waiting somebody to tell them how to fight in two fronts. The article also says they come up with all the imaginary capabilities that nobody can fulfill.

    I was counting on the army to take over Delhi..now it looks like they may even be not able to accomplish that!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Sad thing is that these things are being covered by media. I thought
    anything to do with military will be highly classified.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is a problem of “plenty”.

    This happens in the corporate world too.

    A startup fired with imagination, takes on the big guys with a very limited resources and gets noticed.

    Then he gets funded.

    Suddenly the fancy CEO wants everything to make things look big and spectacular. He makes fancy demands. The CEO attends fancy seminars and give fancy lectures. Everything becomes fancier by the day, except the core objectives.

    That’s what has happened to the Indian Army.

    The budget is growing by the day. The list of demand just getting longer. The GAP analysis is getting fancier.

    Yes, we have become the victim of the plenty.

    [ In a 2 year tenure, think how much time the Army Chief has spent his valuable time in public spats. Instead of giving shape to a new doctrine, he has spent time, resources in silly, petty things. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    Good analysis.

    One thing we may need is the Joint Chiefs of Staff like they have in US.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is not likely to happen(*) and in any case that is not the solution to the problems army or other wings may be facing.

    * The idea has been mooted several times in the past, but not found favour with the Governments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A army – civil balance has been maintained in a very delicate manner.

    Anonymous Reply:

    From the information in the public domain , the contents of the leaked letter of the Chief to the PM , he has been highlighting the shortage of ammunition , small arms , operational equipment for Special Forces , Air defence equipment , etc. They hardly qualify to be called ” Fancy Equipment.” . As for a doctrine or new strategies , I do not trhink they would ever disclose it , even the existence of one. But our security set up does not end with the Army Chief . We have institutions like the Cabinet Committee on Security, the National Security Adviser , NSAB , and others . What have they been doing ?
    And we are still waiting to know has the IB discovered about the leaked letter of the Chief ? Or is that Inquiry still going on and shall go on and on ? The government had announced strictest action against the offender with a lot of fanfare.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, then we must learn to “prioritise” the items.

    It’s like the wife first buying most expensive jewels and then cribbing about not having money for a pair of sandals.

    Looks like it has never happened to you in all these years !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    If you don’t mind can you please leave aside your cynic remarks for the time being and tell whether it is all the fault of army that they don’t
    even have basic arms and ammunition.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us see if the MOD / Army has returned any unused budget !

    Please check.

    Also check, if Army’s requests have been turned down or not in the past.

    Not to make it part of a standard budgetary allocation and make it sound like faux pas is not a good sign of a leader.

    [ For many years, when people used to ask me if I had any vices, I always said "I don't even take paan ( beetle ) !" and allowing people to take their judgement.

    So when somebody complains that there is a shortage of small arms and ammunitions, it's being projected as if the Army never got money and the Govt. has not provided it with enough fund. ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    If I had all the sources to check all these then I would
    not be asking. Anyway thanks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s not difficult.

    Budget allocation, refunds are available on the websites and also become standard news.

    I believe the Army has fully/almost utilised its budgetary allocation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    isnt army a part of the government

    Anonymous Reply:

    Army is the “user”.

    The user demands and gets the budget accordingly.

    So it’s ridiculous for the Army Chief to write such a letter to the PM talking about shortage of basic ammunition towards end of his tenure.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, you have admitted on your blogs that you are fond of “drinks”, (which perhaps you imbibe daily after a hard day at the TV studios).

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kamaksha Prashad,

    When I start my blog, I will invite you as the anchor brand. Then Vijay too will come.

    Anonymous Reply:

    How do you know that he did not prioritise. Has any authority said so far that the list given by the Army was not properly drawn. And not just the Army ,there were CAG reports saying the same thing. CAG reports can only be based on Army correspondence.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If it was prioritised, then the Army Chief should not be talking of lack of basic ammunitions. He should have known what to get first with the huge budgetary allocation.

    And he should not be writing that latter in March 2012 towards end of his tenure.

    Instead of specially calling the files of Vectra and cancelling the order after few weeks of taking the rein, he should have taken steps to procure the “basic ammunitions” for his army.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The letter to the PM thru the Defence Minister was as per normal practice , and this has been oft clarified by the Defence Ministry. The budgetary allocation is with the Defence Ministry which does the procurement. The army only places its indent with the Ministry. How has cancellation of Vectra interfered with his indent for basic equipment ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Priority” of Action.

    One happens beginning of his tenure, the other one happens towards end of his tenure.

    He should have taken of the shortage of ammunition first with the Govt.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not just the present Chief but even earlier Chiefs have been writing the govt about the Shortage of Equipment. It is nobody’s case that the Govt came to know of shortage of equipment only thru the March 2012 letter .

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a difference between the “shortage of equipments” and the “shortage of ammunitions”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    So in reality, your grouse is against the cancellation of the Vectra deal. Wah, Vinodji,
    your mask has just slipped.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kamaksha Prashad,

    Bury a little deeper in the sand. This time not the tail but the neck.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    I agree with you about these fancy seminars and all such
    things. I have attended few when I used to work for the bank.
    Power point presentations, selling pitches from 5-6 sales
    persons for the same product but in a different styles.
    Very rarely anything concrete comes out of these seminars.
    Actual deals are done behind the closed doors.

  • Anonymous

    All the people accused of the broad daylight massacre in Bathon Tola are acquitted by the Patna High court!

    The lower court had sentenced them – a few for capital punishment and others for the maximum jail.

    I bet this judgment will create another thousands of Maoists!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Police should come up with the airtight case with proper evidences before
    going to the court. Otherwise we have many smart lawyers who can easily
    punch holes in the case filed by police.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In all probability it will. The police in all the states do not do their jobs properly – either they are incompetent or ……………

    A tragic state of affairs.

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  • Anonymous

    Sanjay,

    The box became very small.
    I am surprised that even after budget almost fully utilized, still we hear about
    army not having basic items. Is army consulted before making a budget or was
    budget so small that money for even these items was not allocated . I am really
    confused, something is happening between government and army which we
    are not able to discern. Why they are fighting through media, why don’t they
    resolve this behind closed doors? We are talking about army – the most important
    body of the country – not some small bureaucrats.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The user always makes the demand first.

    Can you help if somebody tries to self-immolate and be a martyr ?

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    Congratulations. Celebrate.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Would you mind passing the “katora of malaai” back to me, please?

    You didn’t like it anyways.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you want a bowl of peanuts, let me know – yeh malaai valaai ke liye koi halwaai ke dukaan par chale jaao.

    See new post re: Delhi elections.

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  • Anonymous

    Sanjayji

    The sort of scam Abhishek Manu ji is involved in… do you think it would be the right message to send to the youth of the country for character building?

    What would have been the COngressi reaction in case a BJP chief spokesman or leader was involved in such a thing?

    And most of all you enjopyed yourself so much in a non existent sex scam in Gujarat, what is your view on this real thing?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    It seems I missed something. What is this thing about Manu Singhvi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pooche mat poocho mat Mohan bhaiya!! WOh Congressi hai… spokesman bhi.

    Brother Sanjay is also silent.

    Kanchan GUpta has leaked out that poor guy was being blackmailed by his driver with a CD for _ _ _ against favours with some lawyer. Inida Today,, AAj Tak and Headlines wanted to do a story. Sorry It would be bad for me to leak out further than what is known on the net.

    Strange that all the COngressis did all the 25 folk dances of India on a non existent porn scam in Gujarat have gone on maun vrat.

    Chief spokesman ji CHief spokemsn who castigated the BJP for loose character….

    Very funny world! Dikhane ka kuch… andar se kuch aur…

    Read the mail before it is censored. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manoharji who wrote such beautiful prose on character is also invited to comment since he his servile to all congressis. Please give us a lengthy treatise on character now…

    Anonymous Reply:

    HA HA AHA!! to all my firends !

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have started laughing at your own posting !!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    ab kyaa karen.

    jab saathidaar nahin haste, to dil ko khush rakhne ke liye, use khudd hasnaa paDtaa hai, nahin to log kyaa kahe.nge.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Coomon Manohar

    The thing which really made me laugh is when you said terrorists dont come by visas. You were basically trying to prove that Pakistanis are not terrorists… but BJP wants bad relations with them, in a farcical logic. So mohammad Atta fell from the sky or David Headaly came from the earht like a worm?

    ABhi bhi hansi aa rahi hai…!

    Thx for the joke !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Any chance I can get my hands on that CD.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No problems. Our blog master is a CD specialist.
    But ask for the CD privately and confidentially. Take an oath of secrecy. You will get a CD by courier.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “…Very funny world! Dikhane ka kuch… andar se kuch aur……”

    -

    We heard very juicy stories about Shri Joshi recently.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What’s the story? I guess I missed it too.

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  • Anonymous

    Congress jeete ya BJP jeete kya farak padega dilli mein?
    balatkaar, choriyan, ghoos kya band ho jayenge dilli mein?
    Kabhi aayenge BJP ke neta to kabhi congress ke neta aayenge
    par jo hota aaya hai wahi hota rahega hamesha dilli mein.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow…

    we have a new poet laureate !

    (posted in 37 deg sun from site )

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Vijay Kumar,

    the congress is set for a sound drubbing in the Delhi elections, if the trend continues.

    The seemingly unflappable congress has reacted predictably, saying these are noly municipal elections.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yaar, BJP jeeti hai, ek aur peg pee le naa, kya farak paDegaa app ke ’system’ mein?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I am sure you know from my regular postings that I don’t need any reason for
    drinking.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. I realised. Just for the heck of it. ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Relief for Maharashtra govt, Adarsh panel says land does not belong to Army.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Relief-for-Maharashtra-govt-Adarsh-panel-says-land-does-not-belong-to-Army/articleshow/12701524.cms

    Does this means that there was no fraud?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    We should wait for a day and let more details be known probably via the print media, then we can discus it in detail.

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  • Anonymous

    Trinamool MP Kabir Suman mocks Mamata over ‘toongate’, composes song

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Trinamool-MP-Kabir-Suman-mocks-Mamata-over-toongate-composes-song/articleshow/12702003.cms

    Causing more embarrassment to West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee, who is drawing flak over the arrest of a professor for circulating cartoons, singer-turned-Trinamool Congress MP Kabir Suman has composed a song, “Hasi Niye Thako” (Live with a smile), mocking the state government.

    =============

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Goons thrash retd scientist, strip his daughter near Kolkata

    http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/separated-at-birth/2012/04/16/merciless-mamata/

    In the latest atrocity to rock the state, a retired scientist was beaten up and his daughter stripped on the outskirts of Kolkata on Sunday. Dr Aparesh Bhattacharya, 60, was thrashed, and his 30-year old daughter, Aditi, stripped and beaten, allegedly by members of a club at Baruipur, before the duo was thrown out of their rented house on Sunday afternoon.

    Worse, officers of Baruipur police station, who reached the spot more than two and a half hours after the incident, refused to record the victims’ complaint or take them to hospital.

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  • Anonymous

    Sanjayji… yeh chuppi kab tak rahegi???

    By the way even Mamta wants to censor facebook now.

    As it is opening a facebook account in India is now conditional to giving a residence proof… by giving a phone number.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No comments on Abhishek Singvhi’s CD doing the rounds. Some jaipur based papers have reported that his driver had shot it… some story of _ _ _ for favours… etc.

    Blackmail. India Today AAj tak get hands on it. Broadcast danger. Total maun from all Congressis….

    Singhvi gets court to band CD as it will irreperably dmage him and Congress.

    Yeh sab kuch kya ho raha hai Sanjayji? That is why I always say that COngress is a national jewel which has to be recopvered form Naukercy and sycophancy.

    By the way you must have enjoyed the CD as much as you did the non existent porn phot in Gujarat? .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What’s the story?

    How do you manage to write so much without giving any info/substance ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Beating around the bush is so much easier.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manoharji

    As a nauker of the COngress what do spin do you have to cover the moral turpitude… especailly when you wrote boring chapters on the non existent Gujarat porn scam?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay
    Do tell us something… just some hints would do.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you think Vijay would have waited had he known ?

    The post would have been atleast 5x of its size.

    Anonymous Reply:

    इंतज़ार और अभी,और अभी,और अभी
    इंतज़ार और अभी,और अभी,और अभी

  • Anonymous

    Caught in the act? Now, an ‘objectionable’ CD of Abhishek Manu Singhvi
    Source: PTI | Last Updated 09:47(17/04/12) Share9|

    : Abhishek Manu Singhvi Share New Delhi: The Delhi High Court has restrained a media house from publishing, telecasting and broadcasting the contents of a CD pertaining to Congress leader and a leading advocate Abhishek Manu Singhvi.

    “Till the next hearing, the defendants (the media house), their agents and all others acting for and/or on their behalf are restrained from publishing, broadcasting and disseminating or distributing in any form or any manner the content of any alleged CD or any other material as described in the plaint,” Justice Reva Khetrapal said in an order on a civil suit filed by Singhvi.

    He had sought a restraint on the media group from making public the contents of the alleged CD. The court has also sought response by May 21 from Aaj Tak, Headlines Today and India Today and Singhvi’s former driver, alleged mastermind behind the scandal.

    “Irreparable injury is likely to be caused to the reputation and goodwill of Singhvi in case the defendants are not restrained. Accordingly, issue notice to defendants (one to four) which is returnable by May 21,” it said.

    Singhvi alleged that the CD was “forged, concocted, morphed and fabricated”. Any move to telecast the alleged CD would infringe the right to reputation of Singhvi, the plea said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Why the forged, concocted and fabricated CD was morphed?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Spin +Spin = reverse swing !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ha ha ha !!!

    On second thoughts, this should stop. It is similar to chappal/shoe throwing – gets unnecessary publicity. We should be wary of these media houses on the payroll of Congress. They might come up with something similar (or worse) against the opposition too for the sake of their TRP and their paymasters.

    The opposition won’t even be able to obtain a restrain order from the courts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    have fun for now. The Cognress will anyway use all material with untost goebbelsian ferocity, whenever it gets a chance.as it did i the Amar Singh CD and the fake Gujrat porn case.

    A pert of me pities Manu/ But then he came out so strongly against others using a non scam on a moral platform. Blackmail by a driver could be dangerous and in case such a CD fell into the hand of Telecom and defence dahals… they could have twisted things.

  • Anonymous

    Ok some hint is there. There is a story on Dainik Bhaskar website that the Net is buzzing with jokes on the episode. Singhvi is being called a disciple of N D Tewari.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Disciple of N D Tiwari? It is a compliment in this field.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I got a lot of feed in from twitter.

    The COngress has been reduced to a joke.

    Morals of the story
    —————————

    a) People who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others

    b) Five minutes of fun… can lead you to fifty years of explaining !

    c) Be careful of your drivers!! They are wattching and shooting everything…. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    a) Cover glass houses with blinds.
    b) five minutes? Thats too long, was he high on cocaine?
    c) bribe your drivers before the act, not after.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    5 minues — he was on viagra (and sued Viagra because it was only five mnutes!)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Aap bhi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Beutifull !!

    Seems that Congress is really a gud joke which makes ll of us laugh !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    The buzz is that he has l drafted his complaint … and his case is strong as there is a witness …

    Anonymous Reply:

    funny indeed…

    btw he represented Endosulphin (??) , the dangerous pesticide co, whose product crippled many in north kerala near the govt agricultural farm land.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Lawyers– especially corporate and TV faces– are making money in crores and crores. The driver would definately ask for blackmail in crores….

    Five Minutes … unn paanch minutes ke liye puri duinya ki jung hai… Life is funny…

  • Anonymous

    Sanjayji

    You once made a theorem that becsue fo the non existent sex scam in Gujarat, parents will stop children from joining computer classes.

    Now do you think I should sell all my shares of CD comapnies as parents will stip children from buiying CD’s? Did the COngress have the upliftment of USB companies in mind that it allowed this scam so that CDs will stop selling . (this is extende spin.. cong style…)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay rarely get things straight.

    - A theorem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    AM in full mood for a duel… but got to rush to Noida… c u later…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    For him, the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line.

    - A corollary.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know. David Headly came by parachute. I learnt this from you

    And of course… the attack on NATO by Taliban and ISI was a RSS and BJP plot to defame Paksitan which is an innocent sponsor of peace. (as per ur post 3 days back)

    Anonymous Reply:

    And a parachute descends in a spiral!

  • Anonymous

    The real problem with the COngress :
    —————————————————-

    Manu Singhvi’s political career has now probably ended. His story is somewhat true for most of COngress

    Here area few facts.

    a) He represnted the lottery companies which had all the poor in some sort of satta scam even when lottery was banned

    b) He advised Union Carbide even when India was pitted against Carbide

    c) He represented the endosulphin companies ( As gopi mentioned)

    d) He spoke about porn watching by BJP and castigated them.

    And now the truth is out. Is this not lying, double standards and smugness….. just becasue you have the media under control and you control the engish speaking Indians?

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    Regarding the Adarsh “finding” – One does not know whether to laugh or cry…

    It is similar to the Patna high court verdict on the 1996 massacre in Bathon Thola.

    The powerful creates their own law.

    I was counting on the army to take over. But now with the Janes weekly revelations, I dont think I can count on them either!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Yes Gopiji powerful people do make laws in our country. It is they who decide
    not the courts that who should be caught and who should be set free.

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    Delhi Municipal Corporation Election Results.

    1) My posting a link to Maharashtra municipal corporation results earlier was to take a dig at Anna Hazare. I had asked where is Anna Hazare?

    2) Now the points to note –

    a) the top Congress leadership in Delhi did not go to town with the Band Baajaa re: municipal corporation results in Maharashtra.

    b) If you visit the newspaper websites, starting from Nitin Gadkari downwards – the BJP leadership is going around with the trumpets re: Delhi elections.

    What say?

    ———-

    Congratulations once more.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The top COngress leadership has no spokesman as its cheif spokesman is hding in a CD… that is why…

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    I am on the move… but am tempted to ask you, since you have an ear into the COngress office.

    Why is the UPA surrendering to Paksitan when the world is out to nail it.

    Is it not obvious that Pakistan is deliberatley putting on a behsh badl wala act to get seeta out of lakshman Rekha… (India) while it goes all out to attack Afghanistan. So Pakistan needs a quiet Eastern border for two years.

    Who is framing this policy? Rahul and company or MMS?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I might have told you before that your observations are rather flat and unidimensional. If I have not said that before, then take it as my opinion about your views.

    India has a small window to be somebody out there. She missed the Industrial revolution. This IT revolution has brought India some glory and economic power. But this is not going to last for eternity. The advantage of arbitrage will shift and India will slowly lose the edge. So we have a very small window to strengthen our economic status, consolidate the political power in the region.

    Make hay while the sun shines.

    But a disturbed neighbourhood and poor internal security take the resources away. The energy gets depleted. The political will is distracted and disturbed.

    Only for India’s sake, Pakistan needs to be “contained” and be kept hanging on a hook.

    Thanks to NDA, India has lost the supremacy of the conventional weapons . Today Pakistan has become a declared nuclear state. It moves its nuclear assets openly with a slightest provocation.

    Pakistan also uses terrorism as a state policy.

    So how do we contain Pakistan ?

    Use its own aspiration.

    Pakistan now wants to be like India.

    So we must use of Pakistan’s aspiration to be economically well off so that Pakistan uses its own resources to contain the Jehadi elements. Pakistan understands that it can implode anytime with these jehadi elements and it is not easy to throttle these jehadi elements at will as musharaff had thought. There is a price to be paid for.

    So when we open up a little with our soft power, Pakistan will get suck into that system wherein it has to put in more effort to stabilise its own system and the neighbourhood than India.

    In the process, Pakistan will gain, but India’s gain will be multifold. India can easily do the business on the World stage.

    So opening up to Pakistan is a very little price to be paid for the gain we can have on the World stage. pakistan is not ready with the infrastructure to maximise the benefit. By the time it’s ready, India would have zooomed off to different orbit !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    What a waste of time and energy!

    Do you think that the local hawks here are going to appreciate the points you have articulated so well? No, if you ask me. Nothing less than a complete destruction of the neighbour will satisfy them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Like Pakistan, some elements here too needed to be kept engaged. We hardly have any choice. One has to deal with their tantrums, shifting goalposts and ideas about the Nationhood. You will find striking similarities between those elements in Pakistan and few elements here ! Similarities in their extreme stances.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    1) Have you noticed the similarities between the Uncle-Nephew duo, which is but natural?

    The former wants to destruct India and his nephew here wants to annihilate Pakistan. Chaachaa-Bhatijaa think alike.

    2) Shifting goal posts is so much easier for some of the hawk(er)s here.
    .
    If you start discussing Thermodynamics or Game Theory or Tiger Population or Modi, the goalpost shifts to the Family with a click of the mouse. All roads lead to 10, Janpath and their ‘naukars’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Chacha-Bhatija ! Nice !!
    Both love and thrive on rhetoric !!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Manu Singhvi;s shame has driven you to this?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very poor exit strategy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I never exited from a fight without winning it ! And the Congress khema will lose this one badly… ! :)

    The point is how can you talk about porn when your party’s spokesman is being blackmailed by his driver. wHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN CASE THE defence dalals fgot hold of the cd ot the 3g scamsters?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Start a new thread, we will talk about whatever you have in mind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Manohar

    now you have to do naukeri of Sanjay to survive :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    As often you do to Shenoy ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    sanjay do you actually beleive your own spin on behalf of the congress?

    Anonymous Reply:

    What do I need to believe?

    That you do not agree with Shenoy often ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar beleives that David Headley came via parachute. So do you beleive that. he also beleives that MOhammad Atta and gang nevr took visas to go to US, so you also beleives that?

    Manohar ji also believes that Pakistan is a harbinger of peace whose fair name is being spoilt by BJP and RSS. Do you also beleive this?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You were taunting manohar about being a naukar to me because he agreed with me. Do you also do the same when you agree with Shenoy ?

    Was it worth lowering yourself to that level ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    And in turn fake Sanjay has to do congress naukri for survival and not to be separated from the spoils of decorations and RS seat etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Congress ruled this country 92% of the days after independence.

    All the blame is squarely on them and the populace at large for electing them and not holding their feet on the ground.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Does blaming anyone and wailing solve the problem?

    Ask yourself, as to why alternate political forces have not been able to convince the electorate that they would have done a better job.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing lasts for ever. The electorate has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long.

    Things are changing. The writing is there on the wall – some people can’t see it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Watch the YouTube programme (the link above) and then we will talk.

    You are right, some people cannot see the writing on the wall. We all know which set does not wish to open their eyes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unfortunately, I am at work right now and the computers here won’t allow a link from YouTube. Would try to watch it at home in after 10:30 pm as I wait for the UEFA Champions league semi-finals between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich which kicks off at 15 past midnight.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    You should not only become a politician but should also try your hand on writing
    political thrillers. Freindship with Pakistan will raise India to do business at world
    statge? Wow, now Inidia is even depended on Pakistan on this matter.
    Because of NDA India has lost the supremacy of convention weopons?
    Did NDA stopped not to buy any conventional weopons?
    Is there anything left on which you can put blame on NDA for the misfortunes of India.?
    I am really surprised how India survived during those horrible six years of NDA rule.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You can run a marathon to glory, if you only take that “tiny thorn” away from your foot !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay.

    This is what even I am saying. Take out that thorn
    and just discard it, but what you are advocating is
    that we make a garland of that thorn and wear it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unfortunately, you can not change your neighbour ( or discard the thorn )…just “keep the thorn in your pocket”, so that it does not prick your feet while you are running.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    If you keep the thorn in your pocket,
    then just imagine where it will start
    hurting you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Borrow the guard from Vijay. he always keeps it on whenever I bowl to him.

    Anonymous Reply:

    His spin to the facts is yet another sign that he is none other than the party’s top spinner himself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Another long post saying what a Congress spokesperson would i.e. blame the NDA for everything.

    As if without them, the country would have been clocking 12% growth rate and Pakistan would have stopped terror as a state policy against us.

    Not unexpected though, uncle!!

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  • Anonymous

    In all the excitement of CD, Delhi Elections, we seem to have missed an interesting comment by one Bharati Singh . Here it is

    bharati singh

    So far we were struggling to have minimum qualification and clean criminal record should be the basic criteria for selection of our respectecfullll leaders, behan mamta has added a new one – Psychological test must be conducted to keep insane characters away from politics.

    ———-

    How apt.

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  • Anonymous

    Statutory warning: The following programme contains a F-word (in the lexicon of the some of the Hindutvawadis) – Nehru. You have been warned, watch it at your own peril. If you squirm, do not blame me.

    What can Pakistan learn from Indian education system?
    (Sochta Pakistan, 20 Jan 2012)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYmnPGHBkbE

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    Thanks for telling me I am uni dimesnsional. I take it as a compliment since I am unwavering in my commitment ot fight terror. I am not like a barsati kukkad or a weather vane which changes direction as per profit motive or what the malkin or chotta baba of the house direct you to.

    You need balls and unwavering resolve to fight terror and UPA does not have it.

    I think the UPA is making a huge huge mistake. Somehitng similar to what Rajiv gandhi did i the eighties when he was carried away by Gen Zia’s promises that there was no terror emnating from Paksitan. In fact some of the old Punjabis refugee journos are still not convinced that Pakistan actually bred terror– ask Kuldip Nayar or Khushwant Singh, right now to check up. They valued their personal frienddhsip with Zia higher.

    They beleived that the geb would never lie to them.

    IK Gujral fell in the same trap.

    I have a feelign that MMS may be falling in the same gutter.

    Sanjay, I think in a matter of one year I will change your mindset. Manohar is already being pushed to come out to give more and more logic to justify mental slavery to family rule. he will change for the better I am sure.

    Since you mentioned VIMHANS and some psychiatirsts, why dont you ask them who Kumar is… and what project is on to treat scizophrenia with his help and recondition the mind….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “..Sanjay, I think in a matter of one year I will change your mindset…”

    Nice to be ambitious.
    In my whole life I have not managed to convince a single person. People changed because they saw the truth themselves, not because of me.

    [ Tell your friends at Vimhans to use special "touch based multi level games" for "cognitive training" to help "recover the brain injury areas" and not to look desperately elsewhere. Email this line to them, it will help. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will definately look into this and refer it on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The key is that it has to be “touch based” not “click based”, because there is a relationship between the touch and brain remapping.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont I know it ! All the girls tell me… you are all hands..

    Anyway more seriously speaking research has been done to link various areas in the feet to match corresponding areas in the brain. Which would also apply to the hand…

    And which is why…. we may get a patent on a product…

    Anonymous Reply:

    One needs to teach them to use both hands and feet to give them the sense of space and relationship with the World. Hand based touch can bring things closer and feet can push things away..a very primary start up point…then the combo that can help them deal with objects “simultaneously”…. well…it’s kinda vast area to touch upon here. BTW “touches by hand” develop a “sense of intimacy” and “ownership of the action” faster than that with the feet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay/Vijay

    Why suddenly both of you have started
    discussing in an alien language? This
    is public forum and others also are part
    of this. Bhai mere thoda khayal karo hamaraa

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sorry.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    It was just a sincere request, no apologizing please.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    if you follow the line of fake Sanjay’s arguments, his effort is to tire Vijay Kumar with all kinds of inanities. When somebody gives fiting replies to him, such posts are censored immediately.

    Chith bhi unki, patt bhi unhi ki.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I don’t think both will
    change their stance,
    then why not just enjoy
    their ‘fight’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, in the Mahabharat, sanjay was supposed to have narrated the entire war’s “ankhon dekha haal” to the blind emperor, Dhritarashtra.

    This Sanjay is leading everybody down some blind alley with his non-sense like touch based and click based something, which only the God with three eyes knows.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have already said sorry to Mohan. perhaps you want me to repeat..

  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    You wrote

    Nothing lasts for ever. The electorate has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long.

    Things are changing. The writing is there on the wall – some people can’t see it.

    ——-

    What a daft point to make

    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put the NDA into the hot seat in 90s,
    .
    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put elected Modi with a thumping majority twice already and will do so again later this year.

    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put elected BJP in MP, Chhatisgarh, etc. and recently in Goa.

    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long today reposed their faith in the BJP today in Delhi Municipal elections.

    What say?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Am I being lured into some kind of trap?

    What I meant was this. The traditional vote bank of the Congress is slipping away. Earlier, they could count on the SCs. STs, other backward casts (and some forward cast people for different considerations) and muslims. It is no longer the case. People are getting aspirational and asking for more. Mere words don’t help and the corruption higher up in the govt. has climbed to an unimaginable level. As a nation of generous and practical people, we can live with a bit of corruption here and there. We know that politicians don’t spend their time and money for charity – they would make money. The problem arises when they go past the acceptable limit and it’s not a very thin line.

    Only if we had a more honest media, things would have changed much quicker. The role of the media is to act like a watch-dog and question those in power. What we see instead is that it works the other way. For ads or other considerations, it works overtime to defend the govt. decisions, cooks up spin to every story and questions the opposition instead. Another thing it needs to learn from the media of developed countries is to excercise restraint in reporting and avoid sensationalising trivial things like a show throwing, mobile porn watching, kid falling in a bore-well etc.

    Looks like one of my longest post ever!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    A long post yes, but what you have said is 100% correct.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I agree with you.

    Your arguments cut both ways. You are perfectly within your rights to believe there is a big slippage in the Congress’ vote bank, but that is not falling into the ‘jholi’ of the BJP and if it is, then they have been unable to take advantage, as they do not seem to know what to do with those gift boxes.

    I have said this before. If you have noticed, that this slippage also applies to the BJP too. Both these two big parties need to get their houses in order, otherwise regional players with divergent narrow agendas will call the shots and we are going to have a big crisis in terms of stability and policies.

    For example, for the BJP – IMO, Manohar Parrikar is the man.

    Porn watching and all that were just minor side shows (I have been dismissive about them).

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  • Anonymous

    150 Afghan schoolgirls poisoned in anti-education attack

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/150-Afghan-schoolgirls-poisoned-in-anti-education-attack/articleshow/12705738.cms

    Earlier fundamentalist in Afghanistan were stopping girls from going to school
    and now they are try to kill them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Criminal to say the least. I think the Afghan government and international organisations must do something about it and now.

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    I hope BJP will use the Delhi victory as a platform to build on and expand. They have to get their house in order, ensure the mining and crime mafia in MP is brought under law, empower the young grass-root leaders, provide Modi venues etc etc

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    Anonymous Reply:

    To me the victory in municipal elections in Delhi was primarily due to the increasing popularity of BSP and others. This time I could see a number of people who would have otherwise voted for Congress being lured into voting for BSP etc.

    BJP has its own vote bank and it almost does a favour to the party by coming out to vote. The traditional Congress voters from the (relatively) poorer section of the society ensure that they show up at the booth on the polling day – only to vote for someone else this time. The division of votes of this section of the society has resulted in BJP’s victory this time. This is not to say that none of them vote/voted for BJP. They were sick of the price rise and corruption and wanted to teach the Congress a lesson. It signals to a larger worry for that party as and when the assembly/general elections are held.

    I don’t beleive in the existence of a mining mafia in MP – its a media story. I had never heard of the Reddy brothers under Congress rule in Karnataka. They had been mining long before Yeddyuruppa became the CM.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why do you say “BJP has its own vote bank and it almost does a favour to the party by coming out to vote”?

    Care to elaborate?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Look at any online opinion poll or the comments section of news websites, you would see the majority against the ruling UPA. Walk up to the polling station, the profile of people you see there tells a different story – where are they?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    You seem to suggest that BJP won because of the congress vote got split among BSP and SP. Is it so? If so, then the Congress does not have to fear the BJP and has to fight Mulayam and Mayawati. Am I on the right track? Has the BJP support plateaued?

    We still do not have the details of the voting percentage and vote share, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Shenoy,

    The box got smaller there. I am sure everybody would have noticed that how
    Sanjay vehemently defends UPA. I will not go to that length and accuse him
    of coming on this blog with some agenda. May be he really believes that UPA and their
    policies will ultimately bring positive results for India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    since this afternoon, “Sanjay” is in a flap. He has really lost the balance of mind which has reflected in his weird kind of arguments.

    But, now I have a key to his discomfiture, squirming, loss of appetite, an acute thirst for the drink that lifts you etc.

    he was speaking, repeatedly about a chacha-bathija team.

    Thanks to Praveen Saxena, I have been able to unravel the mystery.

    N.D.TIWARI IS THE CHACHA AND ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI IS THE BATHIJA.

    Both are staunch congressmen, both have common loves.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Because of these people, producers of Viagra have become
    multi-millionaires.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for trending me since this afternoon.

    Going by the past record, you can ever barely add to my discomfiture.

    I like the original Chacha-Bhatija team – both living and thriving on rhetoric.

    Your Chacha Bhatija team has no dum like the original, whether you take one=on-one or team by team.

    What say Vijay, the original Bhatija ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    I have challenged that I will change you. And notice I have bought change to this blog.

    Now nobody talks of open servility to Sonia G and Rahul G ever since I got the term “nauker” in.

    Even you desist and now put your praise of the royal blood in a round about way by attacking BJP.

    Manohar ji is in a process of catharisis. I assure him and you that I will change both of you. :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Again you started pumping the cycle tyre…. !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Like chaachaa, like bhatijaa.

    Ek mushqil hai waise – cycle ke tyre mein bahoot baDaa ‘puncture’ hai.
    ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Does he need an IED from Chacha to fix the puncture ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Totally offtrack and not funny.Only your naukar will applaud on this.

    Come on…you can do better :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    IED that has laughing gas as one of the components

    Isn’t it funny?.

    Ha, ha, ha (*)

    * – Look I have already ‘changed’ (one year ki to aisi ki taisi). I am laughing at my own postings and comments already.

    Anonymous Reply:

    gud . Now you know that beign a naukar is a bad role model.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ha, ha, ha.

    Ha, ha, ha

    I am laughing at my own laughter.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon manohar

    Does naukri meaning sitting like a parrot o the shoulder of the master?

    But be assured I will change your servile mindset in one year…

    Anonymous Reply:

    If nobody talked about Sonia or Rahul, they also did not talk about Advani, Sushma, Vajpayee, Gadkari too…

    You have started living in a delulsory world !

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Going by the past record, you can ever barely add to my discomfiture”.

    Also ever barely add anything remotely meaningful or intelligent to the discussion. Full stop.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Mohan

    You are always welcome – to disagree.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Applause.

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  • Anonymous

    Intellectual deficiency!

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  • Anonymous

    Good, bad and ugly.

    Good : You wife is not talking to you.
    Bad : She wants divorce
    Ugly : She is a lawyer.
    —-

    Good : Your son is finally maturing
    Bad : He is involved the with the woman next door
    Ugly : You are also involved with the same woman

    Good: You start telling your children about sex as they are maturing
    Bad : They keep interrupting
    Ugly : With corrections.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Serious suggestion. Compile your jokes in a book form with different sections. Would love to see it published. Get business instinct predominate here on a hobby.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks mohan

    This is real thought provoking humour !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Have you ever thought of becoming a stand-up comedian?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I don’t think there is much money to be earned in this line of business.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ the worst job… in India… TO BE DEREK OBRIEN ~~~
    ———————————————————————————————————

    Kya lies bolta hai salam just to defend Mamta’s hounding all critics.

    I think you need to be a real worm to say all this with a straight face…

    I think in Pashcim Banga this blog and its writers would be behind bars being hounded by a mob of TMC/

    Very poor show by mamta. I think her government will collapse. SOme rightists or Even Congress should grab her space. Otherwise another 34 years of CPM would push Bengal to 1946 and not 2046

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Democracy and disruptives.
    Abu Quatada has been arrested by UK Police. Quatada, who is fighting his deportation to Jordan has given speeches earlier that converts from Islam, Americans and others are wazib-ul-quatal and liable for terrorist attacks. Human right commission is resisting his deportation. So many disruptives here practiing same democracy, indulge in terror and then hide behind democracy, human rights and anti fascism. Rule of law should be supreme, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    On 17 January 2012, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Qatada could not be deported to Jordan as that would be a violation of his right to a fair trial under Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights. This was the first time the court has ruled that such an expulsion would be a violation of Article 6. The Special Immigration Appeals Commission subsequently ruled that Qatada should be bailed on highly prescriptive terms for three months while the British government sought further reassurances from Jordan. Under the UN Convention Against Torture, to which the UK is a signatory, states are obliged to refrain even from complicity in torture, and thus are forbidden from deporting people to places where a real risk of torture exists. “Torture is rife in Jordan”, according to Human Rights Watch, though the prospect of torture did not stop the UK from deporting people to Libya under Colonel Gaddafi.

    Abu Qatada was released on bail on 13 February 2012. He is prohibited from using a mobile phone, computer or the internet, and subject to an electronically monitored 22-hour curfew that only allows him to leave home twice a day for a maximum of one hour.

    On 17 April 2012, the BBC reported that Qatada was arrested at his home in London and told that the Home Office “intends on deporting him”.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Believe me, I am as much sensitive, may be more than most, about torture of any living being. I am talking about a person, which is inciting people to KIll, KILL and K I L L. I will not suggest pulling off his hair, nails or any such henious thing but if UK can not confine him and make him desist from such activities, then, may be Jordan is the place for him with the hope that they will not give him devil’s treatment, him being a fellow countryman and coreligionist.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    There is a dilemma faced by civilised societies. How to handle potential troublemakers? On one hand is the safety and security of the society and on the other hand is the human rights of the potential trouble maker. A person is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law (not kangaroo courts) – that is accepted principle.

    Digressing a bit. Take the case of Ajmal Kasab – he has been subjected to due process of law and proclaimed killer/terrorist, the Supreme Court is yet to give its verdict. This is much to the chagrin of a very large number of our countrymen. If the Bombay police wanted, they would have shot him on the spot when captured. Then our charge against Pakistan would have been just that – a charge without any solid proof.

    Has there been any unlawful.uncivilised societies that have managed to save themselves from potential trouble makers?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    As Ishwar had suggested yesterday, the appeasing policies are have their effect.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    this is a serious issue. It affects us most as we are at the edge of the arc of terror which originates in the hate schools of Pakistan..

    As an unsure UPA rushes forward to extend the hand of friendship, India is bound ot face the repurcussions of the ripple.

    Unfortunately the free world has human rights for the terroirsts. the terrorists have no respect for anyone’s rights.

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  • Anonymous

    ————————————————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~~ CHANGING MINDSETS—- FOR BETTERMENT and ATTAINING FULL POTENTIAL ~————–
    ————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    There is a popular saying, “that you cant teach an old dog new tricks…”

    What I am going to say out here is the exact opposite. That unlike animals who are instincive, human beings react to situations in terms of instincts +EMOTIONS + VALUE ATTACHMENTS to achieve primal instinctive goals. Must be sounding funny, but this is a project I am working on as a consultant to some psychiatrists. We are probing the mind to achieve simple goals for schizophrenia, ADD, hyper anger, etce etc. Along the lines is also a spinoff on how marketign strategies should be made in advertising. And how…. educational biases can be changed.

    A final spin off would possibly REVERSE BRAINWASHING for terrorists, a worldwide need… and a word which I sometimes use here.

    Well if you take this blog as an open group of 15 people. I have in a covert way introduced change. By adding and revealing the NEGATIVE VALUE ATTATCHMENTS TO VARIOUS POSTURES.

    I should not be revealing all this. But I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker… an acheivment he would give NEGATIVE value to after years if education and work experience.

    The only way he could now mentally reconcile to being a Nauker would be in case he knows that he is getting something in way of position or money, which has higher positive value agains the negative value of being a naukar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…I should not be revealing all this. But I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker…..”

    -
    You are going down to a ridiculous level. You have changed me !! If you could, then so many people here would have danced with joy ! It’s just that they can’t see your miracle !!

    When the time comes, I will talk everything and about everybody. I do not talk about anybody without context.

    Sorry to be harsh…. gandusha matra jalen sarfari farfarayate…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will not disagree. This revolt agains tmy outline of change is part of process of change.

    frankly I should not have revealed the process.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are obvious like a Red Rose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    No offense. But let this be a brutal answer from you. I can bet my engineerring degree, my work (now somewhat recognised by psychologists), my long sittings in psychoanalysis sessions asa an observer… that there is a higher value value attatchment of profit in your mind linked to a role which reconciles you to the role of being in a position of servility,

    I cannot accept a servile ego posture from a person of education and articulation abilites.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you want a brutal answer from anybody, make your question crystal clear.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    ‘ when the time comes, I will talk everything and about everybody ‘
    Aap to daraa rahe hain. Did you get a hold to any of my secret ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If people discuss about you, is there any reason why I must not discuss about you?

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    Gandusha…, please explain this to me, sounds interesting. main daroonga to nahin, per haan, curious jaroor ho gaya hun ki Aap kya jaan te hain mere baare main? Wou;ld love to discuss that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It means that a samll fish makes a lot of flapping in water… while the big ones who have everythign move on…

    Okay if sanjay implys I am a small fish…

    Of course I am .

    Anonymous Reply:

    It was not small fish…it was out of depth.

    Your claim that I will fear…..was completely out of depth.

    Anonymous Reply:

    handful…

    forget it…let’s not discuss it further

  • Anonymous

    Got to sign off now..

    Like I said… I always salute both my enemies and friends for making life what it is.

    @ Sanjay

    DOnt take anything to heart. This was a blog excercise. In normal course I would not have gone into this. Anyway you made so many personal comments and I did not react at that level… So get over it and come back roaring tomorrow.

    @ manohar

    We are bound to be at opposite ends. I chase the truth not any party’s posture.

    @ Pankaj, Mohan others et al.

    Havve a cool time… keep blogging

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker…..”…”

    -

    I am sure you will reflect on this sentence . This kind of stuff does not work with me.

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  • Anonymous

    Sanjay Jha was called CLUNKY by Nirmala Sitharaman in TimesNow debate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It has come out in the open now!

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  • Pankaj#1

    Vijay and other friends;
    Always play with superior adversary. That will hone your skills. Win against inferior player is illusion, and will lower your standard. I am a competitive player even now. After all this blog is a game of mind. By this time, you must have understood who is who. You are much more educated than me, IIT and all that. Enjoy it. Vijay, you have progressed very well, but even best can be bettered.
    Just completed a book while in plane, Genetics- it is kind of made easy book, New York Times’s publication. You will enjoy it. It will tell you who is related to whom and will clear any fog in the mind of readers. Questions on genetics are welcome. After all, I am related to Sanjay and even Ravi and Engrich in someway. More on next post.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Who decides who is superior and who is inferior ? Doesn’t every one thinks
    most of the times that he himself is superior ?

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    No, a true player will understand by the end or even mid way through the game that where he or she stands vis a vis adversary. when, I was playing table tennis for fun, I will always seek a better player to play and on the flip side that better player will avoid me, seeking a better player than himself. If you have to choose, there is no illuson, you know instantly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Table tennis ? Was the topic really a sports game where winner is easily decided.
    Problem is that one does not wants to give up because he thinks that by giving
    up he will be termed as a loser.
    By the way I liked your line – Still collecting stones, in front of the ocean of knowledge.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Sometimes it is important to win just to show what is right and correct. But I take your advice in real sportsman spirit and invite you to a Table tennis game… with beer as prize…

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Doesn’t every one thinks most of the times that he himself is superior”?

    No, not everyone. Of course, there more than enough megalomaniacs, self-appointed ‘reformers’, self-righteous types
    etc. We have some examples here too.

    There are all types of people and that’s what makes this planet such a fun place.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Pankaj

    Will surely take your advice. was planning to taper down my presensce on this blog from today onwards… but as I said company of all… friends and opponents is very addictive.

    So with a phone in hand.. the ther on the keyboard… possibly punching inwrong spellings… I am here… but probably less and less.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are related to Sanjay and Sanjay is related to Abhishek Manu Singhvi!

    what a relation!

    [Reply]

  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    After writing this, I was afraid that I may be sounding preachy, far from it. Still collecting stones, in front of the ocean of knowledge.

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  • Anonymous

    Not just drum-and-trumpet
    B. Surendra Rao

    http://www.thehindu.com/arts/books/article3321494.ece?homepage=true

    History is the knowledge of a retrievable human past. In one sense it is what the historian does, but in another, it is available to the historian and society as a collective of accumulated, debated, dialogued, refuted, amended, renewed knowledge to choose from and build on. Historiography unfolds this rich terrain that has gone under the historian’s plough and the ideas and strategies that have gone into coaxing what is shown as a harvest of truth. Approaches to History puts together 10 critical essays of stock-taking and introspection on various aspects of Indian historical writings. They illumine several themes of interest and relevance which mainstream historiography had loftily overlooked.

    ————

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manoohar;
    Would have loved to read it, but taking time between making International calls to attend to this blog. Can not read lengthy articles, more interested in your or individual’s perspective.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    This actually is a reviews of book

    APPROACHES TO HISTORY — Essays in Indian Historiography. Edited by Sabyasachi Bhattacharya; Indian Council of Historical Research in association with Primus Books, Virat Bhavan, Mukherjee Nagar, Commercial Complex, Delhi-110009.
    Price: Rs 1095

    ——-
    An informative and analytical anthology that shows how rich Indian historiography has been

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    ‘ An informative and analytical anthology that shows how rich Indian histroiriography
    has been’ I have many times noticed that this also creates problem, because instead of
    feeling proud of our past many of us feel superior to others which causes rifts.
    One should know where to draw a line between swabhimaan and abhiman.

    Well I am sounding preachy now. Is this the effect of last night’s party I attended where
    no drinks were served.?

    Anonymous Reply:

    No, you are not sounding preachy, just expressing your opinion.

    You have already read my response re: feeling superior below.

    How tragic – No daaru. My commiserations.

  • Anonymous

    Singhvi taken off Cong duty roster, ex-driver takes CD blame

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/singhvi-taken-off-cong-duty-roster-exdriver-takes-cd-blame/938118/0

    Even as the Congress decided to take spokesman Abhishek Manu Singhvi off the party office’s duty roster for the time being in view of the CD controversy, his former driver claimed that he was the one who had distributed a “distorted” video to take revenge on Singhvi.

    The party’s decision came after Singhvi — who heads the Standing Committee on Law and Justice — secured an injunction against the broadcast of a CD that allegedly contains material which he called defamatory and fabricated.

    ————-

    Read on

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Only if Mr. Singhvi had paid his driver before the act, this news would never have
    surfaced.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right.

    ————-

    It doesn’t matter what you do in the bedroom as long as you don’t do it in the street and frighten the horses.
    – Mrs. Patrick Campbell (Beatrice Stella Tanner).
    was a British stage actress (1865-1940).

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I think Abhishek Singhvi is stingy. He promises a lot but delivers little.

    When Nithyananda’s sex CD was released, it was aired continously and there was a public uproar. The Congress spokesman was Fxxking a lawywer promising to make her judge… however, the media has not made it news…. PAID NEWS OF INDIA SUCKS.

    People are complaining that when they showed the BJP MLAs watching porn, the media titillated them by merely hinting what was being viewed.

    Here the CD is said to be having the real thing. Now media is acting coy and is all conscience and ethics etc.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Getting the right judgements becomes so easy !

  • Anonymous

    Gehlot for phone-tapping, Modi wants to mine Sir Creek: CM ideas lost in the din

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/gehlot-for-phonetapping-modi-wants-to-mine-sir-creek-cm-ideas-lost-in-the-din/938116/0

    Naveen Patnaik argued for a resource tax on mining companies, Ashok Gehlot wanted the power to tap phones in other states, and Narendra Modi urged the Centre to exploit the hydrocarbon reserves in the Sir Creek area. The suggestions offered by chief ministers at Monday’s meeting on internal security were varied and innovative but most got lost in the noise around the debate on federalism.

    Non-Congress CMs had the most suggestions, with the notable exception of Rajasthan CM Ashok Gehlot who came up with some of the most controversial ones.

    Consider:

    Naveen Patnaik, Orissa

    1. A “mineral resource rent tax” on private mining companies “to be charged at 50 per cent of the surplus rent”.

    2. At least one public sector bank branch in each of the blocks in the scheduled tribal-dominated areas.

    Mamata Banerjee, West Bengal

    1. Increase in the quantity of rice to BPL families in Naxal areas.

    2. Machines to detect fake currency near border, Naxal-hit areas.

    Nitish Kumar, Bihar

    1. Training in “humane behaviour” for the Sashastra Seema Bal at the India-Nepal border.

    2. Zero tolerance towards corruption as government policy.

    Ashok Gehlot, Rajasthan

    1. Powers to intercept telephones in other states be vested in the home secretaries.

    2. Mobile phone service providers be mandated to make available call records of the last five years instead of one.

    3. Security agencies be allowed to access databases of banks, passport office, railways and aviation companies, and also from NIA and NTRO.

    4. A system at the Centre to monitor objectionable content loaded on websites from servers abroad.

    Raman Singh, Chhattisgarh

    1. A National Security Guards battalion in Chhattisgarh.

    2. Housing for security personnel as priority.

    Narendra Modi, Gujarat

    1. Creation of a dedicated force to exploit the hydrocarbon reserve in Sir Creek area, and tapping of the solar energy potential on the western borders of Rajasthan and Gujarat. This would also help security.

    2. Every sub-inspector from a training college be asked to impart 100 hours of training to constables.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    It is difficult to love mankind unless one has a reasonable private income. And if one has a reasonable private income one has better things to do than love mankind.

    Hugh Kingsmill
    Was a versatile British writer and journalist.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Beautiful.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Why the Congress is looking like Yahya Khan
    ————————————————————–

    As I sign off to enter a dug up basement for a few hours… here is one reason to smile.

    In 1971, as AAK Niazi was in a process of signing the surrender, my favourite historical joker, CMLA Yahhya khan,, who had fifty diesgnations to make himself feel powerful, was fully convinced thaat his army was about to occupy the Rashtrapati Bhavan and capture Delhi.

    O My God… with every stunning loss… the COngress spin doctors are coming up with newer stories on who they are actually winning !!

    Gr8 !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Yahya Khan was frolicking with Noor Jehan when his army was sigining the surrender document.

    Was Abhishek Singhvi too in the same ‘mood’?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Maybe

    Insiders would know…

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ WHY TERRORISTS WILL ENTER THRU EASY VISAS TO PAKIS ~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————

    This is serious business. I am not here to score brownie points on this one, though I can very easily.

    Rehman malik has warned that Taliban is about to enter India in a big way to create huge problems here. Murderers from FATA will be coming to murder here, wearing the aman ki aashsha logo and flag. While a few Indians will keep crying BJP and Modi.

    This is through the legitimate route of religious tourism with vaid visas.

    I think bloggers should highlight this in their postings. I sinverely beleive blogging does add up to some action some where.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Cut excise or we hike petrol price by Rs 10/L, says IOC

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Cut-excise-or-we-hike-petrol-price-by-Rs-10/L-says-IOC/articleshow/12709059.cms

    Taking a cue from the RBI governor D Subbarao, market leader Indian Oil Corporation indulged in grand standing on Tuesday by saying state-run retailers would raise petrol price by almost Rs 10 per litre, if the government did not reduce excise duty or did not compensate their Rs 49-crore daily loss on the fuel.

    “We have been very patient, not raising prices since December despite our cost of production spiraling. But there is a limit to which we can borrow money and produce fuel for the country,” said chairman R S Butola.

    ———

    Read on.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Pak min warns of Taliban push into India, offers help

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Pakistan/Pak-min-warns-of-Taliban-push-into-India-offers-help/Article1-842228.aspx

    Pakistan interior minister Rehman Malik on Tuesday cautioned India that it should watch out for a surge in extremist activities amid fresh intelligence that the Taliban could be planning to enter the country.

    “I can see more extremism (taking place) in India. I have asked our high
    commissioner in Delhi to call on the Indian defence minister soon and share our inputs,” Malik said.

    —————

    Is this for real? How should India treat this development – sharing intelligence info re: Taliban and terrorists.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Does the media carry out its due dilligence with due dilligence before it does stories on CDs / exposes etc. There have been cases , or rather a case , where it was loudly claimed that due diligence had been done on whether the CD was genuine or not , but that due dilligence was found to be not diligent enough. So have the India Today / Headlines Today carried out their due diligence on the Abhishek Singhvi CD ? Would they contest the case before the Delhi High Court and assert their Right to publish the contents as the people have a Right to know about the personal conduct of people who are in public life. ? Does Markandey Katju have a view on this Restraint Order ? Or does he find this issue inconvenient and shall prefer to look the other way ? Would the Congress Party use its might to sweep this issue under the carpet ? …. Time will give the answers to these questions.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Everything has been fixed now. the driver has been probably purchased. Typical Congress spin has been created that the driver realised his mistake and had created this warped CD with the help of a studio and then asked for “vast” sums of money as he was a bitter man for getting low salary!!

    Very nice.

    Big questions

    a) Why has Abhishek Manu Singhvi been jettisoned by the COngress then. (As per Indian express). if he was so wronged, he could have got the driver into jail, being a huge lawyer, is’nt it?

    b) Why did Healdines Today, India Today and Aaj Tak get into it, if the CD was so obviously fake? They would have surely verified everything before taking this risk. Remember they were careful enough not to touch the Amar SIngh CD as they were tech smart enough to see it was fake.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Mahesh,

    Read that article on Amazon. Surprised to read that 40% of the books sold
    online are through Amazon and this may reach 60% in next 5 years.
    First time heard of this word monopsony. Even vendors are left with no choice
    but to sell their products to Amazon.
    Does this not mean that big retailers with their money power will corner
    the whole market? Ultimately consumers and vendors both will be at the mercy of these big retailers.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    He lives in the thick of a forest, created by him. Man Made forest.

    http://www.theweekendleader.com/Nature/248/Green-Dreams.html

    One more feather in the cap of Kerala.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Vijay
    This case shall become interesting if India Today decides to contest. Also I believe Singhvi has filed a police complaint , if is so this will be another investigation to watch. Because even I belive that if India Today were to do a story they would have done a proper due diligence.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Normal course India today wont contest. Ads, ad campaigns for elections, goodies from the govt… a lot of lalach is being thrown by UPA and trolls.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Agree with you. Most of the media is not reporting this news. I have
    not heard any opposition leader also speaking about this.
    This case in all probability will die very soon.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    My scare is in case such CD’s land in the hands of 2G scamsters and Defence Congractors who are known to create honey traps.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    I don’t think any such thing will happen. You can only
    blackmail a person of his misdeeds if those are not
    known to the public.

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan

    If you dont write the joke book… I will pick up all the lines from this blog and and write it on your behalf !

    Really gr8 one !

    I had a pretty bad experience in the morning with SP workers… jostling/manhandling me for forced donation at a client’s factory in the morning. Your remark has boght the zing back into me !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Don’t forget to pay me royalty.
    Few pegs of Chivas will do .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Definately ! Pegs to all on the blog… friends… opponents… everyone! Cheerssssssss !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    There is a Restraint Order passed by the Delhi High Court prohibiting the lecast of or publishing the contents of the CD against India Today Group. The petition for such a Relief was filed by Singhvi. In these circumstances , no media shall report. The Opposition also shall not take up his issue as it rel;ates to an individual and till something comes out in public and which is prima facie tenable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Thanks. Understood why no one is talking about this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We know there is “paid news”.

    Now we will have “paid media silence”

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are at your brilliant best – yet again.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Whether media talks or they keep quiet, thy get paid. They are in very good business.

    Anonymous Reply:

    However the positive part is that a new job has been created. As COngressmen are getting unemployed , losing elections after elections, I am sure jobs is a priority

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Delhi’s hangers-on market is set for a nose dive.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    @ MOhan

    Since you got my zing back, here is one for you from my joke factory

    Maybe the concerned gentleman was looking for an alternative film career… inspired by sunny !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    He should approach Mahesh Bhatt who now produces these kind of movies.
    He will have no problem getting a role.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Shiela Dikshit wants that the blame for the defeat of the Congress in Delhi should be shared by all in the Party. Does that include the self-styled “Brahmin” General Secy. ? But has he indicated which Brahmin does he want to be ? A Kanyakubj, or Saryupari or Gaur -Saraswat , or Iyengar , or Chitpavan or Palghat Brahmin ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    A Chirstain-Muslim Brahmin.

    A new category of Brahmin will be created for our Yuvraj.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    There has to be a third mysterious abgle to the CD thing whihc is not being talked about.

    Is it some sort of fravour, some appointment, some x factor that Aaj Tak and India Today sensed a big story…?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    last night, Sanjay was very acerbic in his replies and very caustic in his choice of words. While his efforts at comedy fell flat on their faces (as always) there was the faithful side-kick who is also the official congressi troll on deputation to Sanjay’s blog, clapping furiously, as if he would lose the honorary title of the troll if didn, ‘t clap.

    But we must be kind to him, particularly when he is hit by twin tragedies, the BJP winning Delhi handsomely and the world famous lawyer and chief of congress media bureau, being caught in a sex CD, promising a woman lawyer the heavens, if she shows him the ultimate heaven.

    Added to that, Rajeev reports that Sanjay was called the clunky chacha by the BJP spokesperson!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am trying to trace out what these heavens are. Google has started blacking out nes on the subject. Yahoo is still uncensored till now

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Google is the latest to ralise that a worthy adversary can be fought in a court of law, an evl adversary has to be feared.

  • Anonymous

    A good development…

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/MCD-polls-Muslims-refuse-to-take-Congress-bait/articleshow/12710207.cms

    “People here are angry with Congress. They refused to vote for the party as they are upset with the soaring prices and corruption,” said RLD’s Aaley Mohammed. Mohammad (21) is the youngest candidate to have been elected as a councillor.

    “Muslims have learnt to vote for the candidate who works for us and not for the party that takes our votes for granted,” said Mohd Suhail, a resident of Qasabpura.

    During its campaign in Muslim-dominated areas, Congress had tried its best to woo voters by playing the community card. While chief minister Sheila Dikshit at her public meetings slammed Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, Delhi Pradesh Congress Committee chief JP Aggarwal had made a public appeal to Muslims to vote in a consolidated manner.
    ———-

    Not only Muslims, a few more sections of the society are showing its back to the grand old party. Even the Congressis are admitting that the BJP didn’t do well during its last term in the MCD but still managed to sail through because people voted on the issue of price rise and corruption and not on local issues. Does it augur well for the party in the upcoming assembly/general elections?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    BJP should not count on a “vote against” strategy..They have to be a “vote for” party. Country is ready for a clear alternative, not a dressed up (or down) version of GOP

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right Gopi.

    Th next logical step is to highlight the good work done by different state govts. ruled by the NDA vis a vis the UPA. There has been a considerable improvement in the law and order, state of roads and girl education in Bihar under Nitish in Bihar, Chhatisgarh govt. is running the PDS most successfully in the country, Gujrat villages are getting 24X7 electricity etc.

    Let the chief ministers of these states campaign more aggressively at least in their respective neighbouring states so that people learn about all this more and make an informed choice for themselves.

    2014 is a big opportunity for the NDA.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, the CMs should be used either across the country or in neighbouring states, extending the brand. Rajasthan has to be brought back in the column, especially with Gujrat as its neighbour. Have to have young inspiring people leading local/regional activities.

    I believe Akhilesh/SP win in UP has a lot to do with people’s perception of Akhilesh more than any other political alliance/Mayawti’s misrule etc. Every parent in mid 40s on will want a son like that – humble, cheerful, accommodative, helping..-

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    DID BJP SLEEP WALK TO VICTORY?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, this time it almost did. The party campaigned primarily on the issue of corruption and price rise – which hasn’t got much to do with the municipal body.

    Let’s hope that the trend continues. Organisationally, they are strong in the city and hence people voted for them against the Congress/UPA as a better alternative to them.

    If the primary job of the MCD is to ensure that the city is clean, street lights work, colony roads are sans pot-holes, the gardens are well-maintained, no illegal building/extension comes up, the hospitals are hygeinic etc. then I can’t see how it performed so well on these issues to be returned back to power!!

    I live in Delhi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pretty nice analysis Ishwar. I live in Delhi… fell the same…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Delhi municipal election and CM of Delhi to garner votes criticizes CM of Gujarat.

    Amazing. When will these people learn?

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  • Anonymous

    Google has removed most of the news on the CD. Yahoo still has about 3000 pages. DOnt be too surprised that they are snipped by 2 moro

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    Interesting info on Kareem’s man-made forest.

    Have you heard about Silent Valley? It is the result of a determined poetess, Shrimathi Sugatha Kumari, and a committed group of people fighting the politicians, bureaucrats to save/build a forest preserve. Leftists wanted to level off and were against creating/preserving the forest, Shrimathi Indira Gandhi, once she met the poet and understood the issues, was for the forest, and she was quite helpful.
    Sugatha Kumari also led the Krishnavanam forestation …

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Thanks for this info.

    There are many people in our country who work selflessly in the interest of our
    nation. I have very high regards for these people.

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Brilliant remark by Shenoy

    We know there is “paid news”.

    Now we will have “paid media silence”

    Remark of the month for me!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Gopi

    Dont be too kind to Akhilesh as he has to be put to test. His goons are running amuck. Today morning I was at a factory construction in Noida as a a consultant. The owner was not around.

    Around ten workers were there at site.

    Suddenly three car loads of people arrived. They were toughies how could and probably also worked as bouncers in pubs and hotels.

    “Some people in the village are sick… we want a donation, ” They surrounded me and put forward a card which showed that others in the area too had paid, 60 to 70000.

    “I am just a consultant from Delhi, ” I said trying to be cool, “designing this factory so that people get employment.”

    They pushed me to a waiting Versa.

    “Pradhanji ki insult kar rahe ho, ” One of them sneered, “He will help you out in case of strike… he will help you in case there is a gunfight… we are party workers who are also social workers”

    These were indirect threats.

    Inside the car a smiling so called pradhan was sitting with a rifle.

    I called the owner of the construction site, who told me to pay up on his behalf. Problem was I just had 9,000 in the pocket.

    “You have an ATM card,” one of them pulled me by the collar, ” Another one of them pushed me hard.

    I still kept smiling. “ATM is two miles away…”

    “We will come again….” They sneered and took the 9000.

    “Once you give us the money… you will be protected and we will give you our card that nobody else will come for one year…” The Pradhan said loudly, trying to comfort me.

    They left after that.
    ——————————————————————————

    Gopi this is the state of things on the ground which Akhilesh needs to see in the party.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    That is unbelievable.

    Apart from the goondagiri, the fact that it happened so close to Delhi, the ancient imperial capital and the new democratic capital, speaks volumes about how “far” we have come!

    On the goondagiri, let us hope Akhilesh govt will fix it in time.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji/Vijay,

    This happens at other places too. I have a showroom at Bhiwandi just at the
    outskirts of Bombay. I have to pay something regulary to local goondas.
    Thankfully their demands are small.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Though I did feel strange in the morning on seeing the rifle… I tried to handle this with a smile, knowing that things can go wrong. After coming back to office I was feeling sad that in India for every step forward we take one back.

    HOWEVER UR JOKE GOT THE ZING BACK TO MY MOOD !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Gopi

    I feel bad that UP should take this road. NOIDA is thriving becasue of proximity to Delhi, great planning and good gentry.

    However the politcal parties have created their own goons for collection.

    In sharp contrast, despite her statue megalomania and corruption, Mayawati did not have these ruffians set lose.

    I hope Akhilesh is really tuned onto the UP street where things need a strong hand.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    This is culture of UP…Everybody is a Dabangg when his/her party is in power.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Pak SC allows 3 Hindu women to decide their own future

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Pakistan/Pak-SC-allows-3-Hindu-women-to-decide-their-own-future/Article1-842456.aspx

    Three Hindu women, who were allegedly forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslims, were today allowed by Pakistan’s Supreme Court to decide their own future and where they want to live. A three-judge bench headed by Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry asked Rinkle Kumari alias Faryal Bibi, Lata Kumari alias Hafsa Bibi and Asha Kumari alias Haleema Bibi to inform the court registrar’s office whether they want to live with their husbands or their families.

    The bench ordered police to provide complete security to the women and warned that police officials would be held responsible for negligence if they were harmed.

    =========

    Read on.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    India to test fire Agni-5, missile that can target China

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/India-to-test-fire-Agni-5-missile-that-can-target-China/Article1-842277.aspx

    India will join the elite club of nations having Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) with the test launch of its 5,000 km-range Agni-5 missile planned on Wednesday. Successful test-firing of the Agni-5 will catapult India to a hyper-exclusive club that now counts only the United States, Russia and China as members. It will be a huge strategic leap and give India capability to target all of Asia, including the northernmost parts of China and large parts of Europe as well.

    The three stage solid-fuelled 50-tonne missile will be launched off Wheeler Island in Odisha and is expected to reach its target area in southern Indian Ocean.

    ===========

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us hope the test will be successful.

    In addition to the Indian pride, I have three more reasons to be proud – that the leader of the project is a fellow Malayali Christian woman.. Shrimathi Tessy Thomas, dubbed “Agni puthri” (daughter of fire) in the local news media, has been directing the Indian missile program for many years; she is directing the Agni V project.

    Hopefully she will become a role model for many of our girls (and boys) to pursue a career in science

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Agni Putri. Great title. All the woman and man of course of India should be her.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Her fame has sky rocketed.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    As per NDTV:

    The high-profile launch of India’s first Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM), Agni-V, has been postponed. Authorities say the launch was postponed due to bad weather.

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  • Anonymous

    A Sindhi calls newspaper agency to print death of his grand father.

    Clerk ‘ Rs. 50 per word’
    Sindhi ‘ dada dead ‘
    Clerk sorry, minimum 5 words,
    Sindhi ‘ dada dead wheelchair for sale ‘

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gud one.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I had asked you the name of your joke factory. I repeat my request.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Thought of the evening:
    ———————————

    After a nasty experience I realised that India needs two or three national level parties. But currently both of them are out to annihilate each other, leaving the floor space to regional and caste/ communal parties.

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  • Anonymous

    Woman ‘molested’ for refusing to join Trinamool Congress

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata-/Woman-molested-for-refusing-to-join-Trinamool-Congress/articleshow/12718244.cms

    Another blot on Mamta Di.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The media has got a new “bakra” in didi now.

    Mr. Modi can live in peace for a while and enjoy till it lasts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Don’t count on that. The moment somebody sneezes in Gujarat,
    Modi will be blamed, and if by any chance that person happens to be a Muslim then god forbid all hell will break loose.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You apprehension has been proved right. Look at the top post. ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    You got that right. Mamata defied Congress and Sonia. Now paid media is making her pay for it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    We saw same things happening just before UP elections,
    almost daily we used to get similar types of new from UP
    blaming Mayawati.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Absolutely correct. Media provided almost 100% positive coverage to Rahul and his congress and 100% negative coverage to Mayawati…rest were simply ignored.

    Anonymous Reply:

    At this rate, she will not last out 5 years of tenure. It would be much sooner. There is a possibility of a revolt among the TMC MPs soon.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Manu Singhi CD case : One of the best comment I read.

    BJP can only watch, while Congress can act.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    when BJP watched,
    the media witch-hunted.

    when congress acted,
    media reacts with silence!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    One more.

    Singhvi stripped of all party positions. Only position for him now is missionary .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Missionary position..looks like he is joining Our lady of 10 Janpath church.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    because he stripped a woman lawyer?

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar,

    Earlier you had provided a link to the news where Pakistan SC gave three Hindu
    women to decide their future. Here is follow up to that story.

    Want to Live With Husbands: ‘Converted’ Pak Women

    http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=760103

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The silver lining is that it has been left to the women to decide for themselves to decide what they wished to do with their lives. These cases may be a matter of love-marriages plus a matter of conversion, hence the parents may have taken offence.

    We also cannot rule out the possibility that they may have taken the decision under duress, I do not know and perhaps we will never know.

    The important thing is that the decision was left to the women concerned.

    BTW: Don’t we see similar cases happening here, when the parents with the help of the ’self appointed’ thekedaars of our culture and religion to poke their noses in a matter which is purely personal and concerns adults? Here too, the courts and in many the cases, the police (generally of some other state) leave to the individuals to decide their future telling others parents/thekedaars to lay off.

    It is all a matter of intolerance and attempt to restrict individual liberty.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Once the women have sex, it is difficult for them to return as the cultures of the sub continent would label them “dishonoured.”

    If you see the link Rajeev posted some time back, the whole thing is a communal charade. A group a procession simply captures a girl from th oppressed religion. It is a battle of the womb.

    The oppressed religion has one womb less. The opressor has one womb more to produce babies.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I had read that article and that is what is happening in Pakistan.
    Even the intervention by SC did not have any effect. Girls
    ‘decided’ to stay with their husbands.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you read the article… Police accompanied the girls who kept their faces hidden in Burka. That is pakistan… one is not even sure they would have got the right girls to court. :)

    furtheron… with so much public and pressure of their “forced” husbands a teenager would just crumble.

    The right statistc to probe would be

    The ratio of Muslim boys married to HIndu girls in comparison to Hindu boys married to Muslim girls.

    if it 100 to 1 , I wont be surprised.

    Rest of tales justifying this as love marriages is dil ko behelane ko jhayal achcha hai..

  • Anonymous

    Rajeev’s harmless post got deleted. Was it because he mentioned our
    Brahmin Yuvraj Rahul Gandhi?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    This just shows how clunky is other side…Cheat and claim victory is typical congressi mindset.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is Sanjay’s way of creating a level playing field.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    When my comments are deleted, I get the confirmation from other side that I have won the argument.

  • Anonymous

    If government jobs are given by way of sexual favours… is it not Yaun uthpeedan?

    If government jobs are given on consideration of sex… is i not exploitation of women?

    If goernment jobs are given by patronage… will not the patron demand favours in return from the person given the position in terms of decisions?

    very good questions which we need to ask ourselves.

    This was probably the thrust of the AAj tak probe…

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  • Anonymous

    If government jobs are given by way of sexual favours… is it not Yaun uthpeedan?

    If government jobs are given on consideration of sex… is i not exploitation of women?

    If goernment jobs are given by patronage… will not the patron demand favours in return from the person given the position in terms of decisions?

    very good questions which we need to ask ourselves.

    This was probably the thrust of the AAj tak probe…

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar not so fast.
    ————————

    Gujarat HC quashes sedition cases against TOI Ahmedabad

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Gujarat-HC-quashes-sedition-cases-against-TOI-Ahmedabad/articleshow/12718428.cms

    Excerpt

    The cases had been filed after a series of investigative reports had exposed Mathur’s dubious background and questioned if Ahmedabad was safe in his hands as police commissioner. The TOI had said that the Narendra Modi government, particularly the then Minister of State (MoS) for home Amit Shah, rewarded Mathur for botching up the Sohrabuddin fake encounter probe.

    A little more than a month later, terrorists had killed 57 people in the city by triggering serial bomb blasts on July 26, 2008.

    Post-retirement, the state government has again rewarded Mathur by appointing him as director general of Raksha Shakti University. Shah was arrested by the CBI in the Sohrabuddin case and has been restrained from entering Gujarat.

    ———-

    Sedition! Huh!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rs 25L fine on Gujarat govt for intercepting ‘beef’ containers

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Rs-25L-fine-on-Gujarat-govt-for-intercepting-beef-containers/articleshow/12711462.cms

    The Supreme Court has slapped a penalty of Rs 25 lakh on the Gujarat government for intercepting meat containers on NH 8 and registering complaints against the exporters for violating the Gujarat Animal Preservation (Amendment) Act 2011, which prevents transportation of cow.

    The exporters have, in a petition, told SC the meat was being transported from north India to a Mumbai port. In one such case, a division bench of Justices Altamas Kabir and Surinder Singh Nijjar pulled up the Gujarat government on Monday and imposed a huge fine for illegally intercepting the export consignments.

    ———

    Modi, Modi, ………………….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It looks like SC is at fault here. Wasnt Gujrat enforcing its law or do we have something in the law books barring interstate transportation from state’s purview

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Is Gujarat not part of India that it is hindering legitimate trade and transhipment of goods?

    I am not surprised that you are finding fault with the Supreme Court (’cause it faults Modi’s Gujarat) and also fault anyone else too.

    Mind you Supreme Court is not at the service of Gujarat or Modi alone, upholding its laws and acts alone. There is a larger entities called India and Indians.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    The supreme court has accepted Gujarat’s (Modi’s, in fact) contention that every state in India carries out encounter killings regularly, while only Gujarat gets vilified and demoniosed. Gujarat has provided statistics to the effect that encounter killings in the state are the minimum for India.

    Accepting the arguments, the SC has pordered the centre to come up with the status for the whole of India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Terrible news from Gujarat. There is no possibility that such thing
    can ever happen in any part of India. It is Modi’s fault and he should be severely punished for this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know… its modi evrywhere. You look up at the sky if there is a thunderstorm, it is modi I am sure …

    if a mosquito bites Teesta in the bum… Modi must have bred them…

    Ho Hum !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Gujarat HC gave verdict against Modi. Surprising, I was always under the
    impression that Gujarat courts are biased towards Modi.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yeh aapki galat fehmi thi aur hai.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Where were all these girls when I was of the right age?
    ——

    A young boy to his girl friend : Let us go to some remote peace full place
    Girl: Will you do something Naughty?
    Boy : No, darling
    Girl : Then leave it, I am not interested.
    ——-

    Another boy to his girl friend : Tum to meri chand ho ..
    Girl : Aur tum ho mere Neil Armstrong
    Boy : Neil Armstrong ?
    Girl : is chand pe chadhne wala pehla aadmi.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    “is chand pe chadhne wala pehla aadmi.”

    Bahut Khoob…Was Rajiv Gandhi Neil Armstrong for Sonia? Point to ponder…

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    A special ode for Congress tonight .

    Quoting Lord Chesterfield on sex

    ” The pleasure is momentary… the position ridiculous…. the expense damnable ! “

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Any ridiculous position is acceptable for the momentary pleasure. Who cares
    about the expenses, there is lot of money available in India to be looted.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I know… 1,7600000000000

    [Reply]

  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    particularly my friends on this blog. Wanted to read all the post but can not do. So, restricted to my posts and reactions of my friends. It is obvious that they did not like my post regarding playing. I will suggest that you read it again and decipher, what I am trying to say, then feel bad. Obviously, we are not on the same page.
    Vijay, You understood me totally wrong. You should read between the words, reading between the lines is passe. I have given enough hints here, who sanjay is. he is a professional writer, you know what? His style, flair, contents clearly direct to his profession apart from a plethora of other indications. When I said to play with better player, I was trying to say, that imbibe his style, the way he obfuscate issues, the way, he can not discuss certain people on this blog etc. For good debate, learn these skills. Few posts back, I had already termed him as a professional and attributes of a professional. His never say die attitude, though badly beaten on Army General Issue, he did continue to defend Government. So, nothing can be more obvious, I was trying to say that to enjoy his dilemma of compulsion of defending undefendable. Was listening this morning, Gulam Ali.. Main teri mast nigahi ka bharam rakh loonga, Hosh aaya bhi to kah doonga mujhe hosh nahin.
    Shenoy sahab- You also did not take the hint about relationship, was expecting that may be you will take.
    Mohan- Table tennis and topic, very dissimilar and very similar at the same time. I was suggesting Vijay to learn debating skills from him not his ideology.
    Friends, it seems, long absence from India has changed my attitude, style and now, I enjoy some different confrontation- jis main, Cheeeen bulwane ki jaroorat nahin padti, and every one understands that. Keep the blogging going. Good luck.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    I did understand what you wanted to convey this morning, but I wanted to
    take the discussion to a different level. Any way some other time.

    On Sanjay, I once complimented him by telling him that he should be a
    politician because he knows how to avoid inconvenient questions.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let me add my two bits

    “because he knows how to avoid inconvenient questions”.

    There are others hre who take the easy way out – obfuscate or simply scoot.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes Yes!! They are unwillign to answer why a national jewel like the Indian national congress has become an army of domestic servants and naukers of the family.

    They are unable to answer why they need to shout Modi Modi every tiime they are caguth with their pants down and cheating and looting.

    They are unable to answer why Chotta baba , the PM in waiting of the INC thinks LeT is not a threat and why his mentor beleives that it was not LeT , but RSS which did 26/11 ki saazish.

    Yes we must ask these trolls all this and tthen expect them to shout rape again..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    Congress is NO MORE a national jewel but National Disease.
    In an ideal situation, Congress should be basically desolved and splinter groups emerge out of it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Rajeev

    It is truely a sycophanitc nauker to dynasty organisation right now…

    but I would not want it to dissolve. After all this was the organisation of Sadar patel, Gandhi,
    even nehru. And of course many ordinary indians who fought for freedom and became members.

    We basically need to recue it from trolls, the corrupt, the naukers of dynasty, the sycophants.

    I think we need a clean congress bereft of sycophants and family rule. Becasue we need national parties…

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    I beleive we need national parties which are democratic. Regional parties are small minded and at times communal.

    I had a bit of a rough up with SP goons in Noida next to Ghaziabad today. I feel that national parties would be accountable. These regional parites… they are not the solution.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Pankaj

    But actually I dont defend lies or obfuscate !! That is my problem.

    My focus in life is clear. Congress has to be rescued from its present state where naukers and sycophants have taken over obfuscating corroption and dynastic monoplies.

    I think that is the only stance I fight for. I deliberately dont put it in complicated language because all my life I have read technical books written in complex language … sometimes as complex as kamasutra positions :)

    I of course admire Sanjay that he does defend the indefensible which I probably would not. Still there have been duels before… and would be duels later. None of us should take anything personally.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    You are on dot about Sanjay. This guy is a professional blogger (HamaraCongress). I initially thought he was Vinod’s proxy but when I read his arguments closely, I was sure of his true identity.

    He is basically a propagandist and a very insignificant one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    you are very very close to the truth. Only, you have left it unstated.
    Let me “clarify” the issue.

    The beginning of 2011 was great for the blog, with all kind of men and women participating in the proceedings. VINODJI WAS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT TOO, replying to almost every blogger, sharing jokes and also gaalis.

    Then came the turning point: the appearance of Prabhat. With him doing the job, Vinodji took leave of the blog, except once a week, while posting the essay.

    When people found acute “shortcomings” in the way Prabhat’s unbridled , no-holds-barred rsponses to some of the bloggers, he was “removed” silently and totally and Pahlad was let loose on the blog.

    When Prahlad, with his “Sir”s and “Tehelka is the best in the media” kind of rsponses, too failed to perform the desired duties, he too was abruptly and unceremoniously discarded and now we have the Mach-III model.

    What has gone wrong with this Mach-III model?
    Well, he wins every argument by censoring replies which are fitting, witty, humorous, or which nail his blatant “family worshipping” posts.

    THEREFORE, I THINK THE TIME HAS COME FOR VINODJI TO CALL HIS OWN BLUFF AND LEAVE THE BLOG TO PERFORM NORMALLY, WITHOUT SILLY PROPS LIKE SANJAY.

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  • Anonymous

    More news about Modi

    ————-

    Keshubhai plays community card

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Keshubhai-plays-community-card/articleshow/12711184.cms

    Excerpt

    Barely two days after empty chairs greeted chief minister Narendra Modi at a function organized by a group of Leuva Patels in Surat, Keshubhai gave a clarion call to his community that it is high time to show detractors that “might is right”, that too addressing a nearly 60,000-strong crowd.

    ———-

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar-

    Any insight into this? Is the ex-CM a sour grape or are there major issues?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The ex-cm belongs to Yeddy’s category, though not caste.

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  • Anonymous

    Obsession of certain gentlemen here with Modi.

    I request them to link the following with Narendra Modi and win a lollipop for the dunces of the year

    a) Agni test firing delayed. Modi must be behind it. he sneezed. Engrich and manohar have concluded that the skies became clouded

    b) Abhshek Manu Singhvi drops his guard. All beasue the woman lawyer saw a plate of Momos and said Momo de do . Manu Singhvi busy in his files just heard Mo-di… got excited… and rest his his-story !

    c) COngress lost MCD elections. Obviously all the Delhi COngressis were busy shouting Modi Modi rape rape… they forgot to work in their consitituencies and lost !!

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ WOW !! PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT WILL PROVIDE HAFEEZ SAEED SECURITY !!! ~~~~
    ————————————-

    Two days back, on this very blog, manohar, Mahesh and Ravi were giggling like girls and trying to potray me as a hardliner, BJP guy who was giving a bad name to the innocent state of Pakistan.

    Well as I watch TV right now, news is coming in that the Lahore high court has directed the Paksitani government to provide “A ” category security to Hafeez Saeed !!

    So Hafeez will never never never never be caught. Instead spin will be created as Imran Khan suggested that Saeed and LeT are good hearted people who should be won over with love.

    Wah !! Wah !! Applause !

    I can see Manohar and mahesh giggling that Hafeez will never be caught… and we need to win him over with love… even as he announces a hard time for India this year.!

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  • Anonymous

    There is only one way to deal with goons of all kind…reciprocate in kind..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not when you are alone… and there are ten of tme. One of whom is armed. No practical way. either you should know the Police and be willing to take a panga and have a ten yr litigation. Or you use police to give tem a scare back.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    well its 1.11 .. India time. Crashing of to sleep now …

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just identify one..wait for your time and do the job.

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistan’s Army chief Kayani urges less spending on defence

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Pakistans-Army-chief-Kayani-urges-less-spending-on-defence/articleshow/12720640.cms

    Pakistan: Pakistan’s powerful Army chief on Wednesday said he would like to see the country spend less on defence, arguing that national security depended on development as much as on protecting borders.

    Chief of the Army staff, General Ashfaq Kayani, said “peaceful coexistence” with arch-rivals India was vital to both countries and the welfare of the people should be a priority.

    ———-

    Earlier they informed India about the possible infiltration by the Taliban. Now this!
    What is cooking? Are we seeing more realistic Pakistan establishment or ….. ?

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Good morning gentlemen.

    Love is blind and marriage is an eye opener.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Would divorce be an eye surgery?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    No experience cannot comment.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    India test fires long-range missile Agni-V, joins elite club

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/India-successfully-test-fires-Agni-V-takes-a-giant-stride/Article1-842796.aspx

    India on Thursday test fired Agni-V, the country’s first long range inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM) from Wheeler Island, off the Odisha coast. The maiden flight test of Agni-V, was postponed on Wednesday. Bad weather conditions were cited as the reason.

    ———

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    First thaw? BJP says it will back pension Bill

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/first-thaw-bjp-says-it-will-back-pension-bill/938642/0

    Excerpts

    Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley said here today that the Bharatiya Janata Party would support the government and facilitate the smooth passage of the pension bill (Pension Fund Regulatory and Development Authority Bill) in the budget session of Parliament. The budget session is set to reconvene post recess on April 23.

    “We are not opposed to the pension Bill. We had sought a couple of changes that were agreed to by the government. But on other financial sector Bills such as the one on banking amendment that seeks to lift the 10 per cent cap on voting rights and the insurance Bill that seeks to hike the FDI limit to 49 per cent from 26 per cent, there is resistance from within the Congress itself,” he told The Indian Express.

    ———–

    Referring to one particular Cabinet minister, all of whose Bills are stuck in Parliament, Jaitley said, “In each case, the opposition started with ruling party members. The Congress party is opposing its own ministers,” he said. To another question whether the BJP can still support some of these Bills, he said, “Strategically it is not possible…as Napoleon said, when the enemy is committing suicide, you don’t disturb them.”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    When enemy is committing suicide, you don’t disturb them.

    Nice line.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Right you are, that is why I did a copy and paste of the particular para.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    we can even lend a helping hand.

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  • Anonymous

    Rashid Alvi says Abhishek Manu Singhvi has cold,

    Singhvi’s doctor says, no cold. Looks like he has developed cold feet.

    My friend in Bangalore says, Abhishek was singing this song while “frolicking” with the woman lawyer who wanted to be judge:

    ” bhiige honTh tere, pyaasaa dil meraa
    lage abr saa, haa, mujhe tan teraa

    jam ke barasaa de, mujh par ghataaen
    tuu hii merii pyaas, tuu hii meraa jaam
    kabhii mere saath, koii raat guzaar
    tujhe subahaa tak mai.n hai.n, karuu.N pyaar haa”

    But the media is collectively singing this vrind gaan:

    “kuchh naa kaho, kuchh bhI naa kaho
    kyaa kahanaa hai, kya sunanaa hai
    humko pataa hai, tumko pataa hai
    samay kaa ye pal, tham saa gayaa hai
    aur is pal mein koi nahin hai
    bas ek hum hain, bas ek Abhi hai……..”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Singhvi developed cold feet, but he could not control his rest of the body
    which became so hot that he ………….

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    In Uganda, we had Idi Amin
    In West Bengal, we have Didi Amin
    Idi Amin ate human flesh dish
    Didi amin loves only fried fish.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Didi amin also loves the flesh of all who oppose her
    People would soon depose her

    Unless COngress or BJP occupy her space
    Bengal would lose the race

    The next 34 years again would be of CPM
    Bengal would be racing backwards to 1912, under them !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    VIJAY kUMAR,

    very good. Yes, we are losing it in Bengal. If she goes on like this, even communist cadres would join the BJP.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    from lal salam to lal krishana Advani salam

    Bengal would at last progress :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay/Shenoy,

    Communists and ‘communal’ together?
    Would love to read views of Manohar, Mahesh, Ravi
    and Sanjay on this .

    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, communists+communal=community!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well BJP or Congress need to REPLACE the possible re-incarnation of CPM…

  • Anonymous

    MOhan

    wehre is the joke of teh day?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vjay Kumar,

    I had posted a permanent joke about the media and Narendra Modi in reply to your post here, but the censor found it so hilarious that it was promptly censored!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi as a blogger on TOI

    ———–

    Skill Development: Strengthening Yuva Shakti

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/narendra-modis-blog/entry/skill-development-strengthening-yuva-shakti

    Dear Friends,

    I would like to share with you an anecdote of a man I know, who repairs watches. One day a watch came to him for repair during which he noticed a manufacturing defect. He then wrote a letter to the watch manufacturing company based in Switzerland pointing out a defect in the design of their product. As it turned out, the points raised by this man proved to be correct and the company not only appreciated the point raised by the man but also had to withdraw the watches from the market.

    —————-

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    There may be many faults in Modi, but he is very sincere about development
    in Gujarat. He is not corrupt and is a workaholic person, he not only plans
    but makes sure that his plans are implemented. If other states follow him
    where development is concerned, our country will become envy of the world
    in few years.

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  • Anonymous

    Indians apni hartkaton se baaz nahin aayenge.

    In a night club somewhere in Europe a girl was dancing in skimpy dress.
    On one table an Italian put a note of Euro 100 in her bra, on another table
    a French put Euro 200 at the same place. Then she came to a table where an Indian
    was sitting. He took out an ATM card, swiped it between her b…..s and removed
    Euro 300/- and quietly walked out of the club.

    Indian banking everywhere.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan let me also compliment you on your jokes. And even Shenoy Saab is catching up. This blog is becoming all the more exciting.
    And whether Mr Sanjaydhawan is Vinod Sharma Sahib or not , his interventions are very interesting .( almost like those of Vinod Sharma Sahib)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Thanks. Shenoy is Master, I have still to learn many tricks from him.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    gr8 joke!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. A joke for sure. Was there ever a doubt about the ‘master’?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    this one is specially for you:

    A guy walks into a bar and sees a sign that reads:

    Cheese Sandwich: $1.50
    Chicken Sandwich: $2.50
    Hand Job: $10.00

    He checks his wallet and beckons to the sexy bartender.

    “Are you the one who gives the hand jobs?” he asks.

    “Yes,” she purrs. “I am.”

    “Well, wash your frickin’ hands,” says the man. “I want a cheese sandwich!”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab . Trust me it was not me .

  • Anonymous

    The Congress setback, Nirmal Baba and some very exciting IPL matches dominated TV this week
    ———————————+++++++++++++++++++++++++++=======================

    The Congress lost the MCD elections in Delhi in such spectacular fashion that within an hour of the first news reports, a thousand lotuses bloomed. “Kamal, kamal aur kamal” is how News 24 described the unusual phenomenon. In other words, kamaal hai. By lunchtime, the Congress rout resembled a drought and the TV screen was flooded with jubilant BJP supporters. Now, news channels recognise a disaster when they see one and here was a man-made tsunami of alarming proportions for the ruling Congress. TV reporters rushed from East Delhi to West and from North to South Delhi, surveying the damage. And the one person they held responsible for the wreckage of Congress’ hopes was none other than Delhi’s chief minister, Sheila Dikshit. Or to mix the lyrics of two filmi item numbers, “Sheila badnaam hui, Dilli tere liye”.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-election-and-the-pitch/938498/0

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  • Anonymous

    Rohini suicide, husband held

    New Delhi: The husband of Garima Vajpayee — who jumped to her death from a Rohini mall on Tuesday — was arrested in the case on Wednesday. He has been identified as Padam Vajpayee (36). Police said that Padam was arrested after Garima’s family alleged dowry harassment. He has been charged under Section 304B of IPC, a source said.
    The couple lived in Paschim Vihar and has two children. Police said that on Wednesday, the couple had an argument after which Garima came to the mall where Padam owned an outlet. She went to the seventh floor of the mall and jumped. TNN
    ========

    WTF, why does the police need to arrest the husband without any investigation? The couple had two children and that means they must have been married for some time. Did the parents of Late Garima Vajpayee ever received a dowry demand.
    a) if yes then what did they do about it?
    b) if no how could say that the death was related to dowry?

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  • Anonymous

    Where is Sanjay? (fixing cong problems?)
    Where is Dr Shantanu? (going after a blond “Satyavathi”)
    Where is Ravi??
    Where is Egrich (regrouping Taliban??)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi calls RSS leaders Shalwarpahenkar and Golimarkar forgetting that these two terms define his Amir Hafiz Saeed more..Hafiz Saeed wears Shalwar and has been in Goli business for very long.

    The terrorist and his supporters are hiding after their favorite party congress got routed in MCD poll. This is their calibrated response..when faced with difficult questions, all of them go in hiding.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And Shan is avoiding this space probably bcause he won’t be able to defend Mamta’s antics!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ;) so much for rationality.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    U do keep revealing your humourous side once a while…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay is temporarily withdrawn by the blogmaster. However, alternate arrangements are alreay in place for the censorship to go on undisturbed.

    NOBODY NEED ENTERTAIN ANY FEELING OF RELIEF AT SEEING SANJAY BACK INTO VINOD SHARMA’S MAGIC BOX.

    Last reports received about Shan say that he is not a doctor at all, but due to a mix up of identity, he got employed as a British government doctor.He also sighted at one of Mamta’s recent rallies.

    Both Ravi and engrich are reported to be safely and happily back in their London gutteral abode.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi as per his habit must be giving someone bl0wjob.

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  • Anonymous

    Gadkari has for the first time admitted that there is a problem between him and Modi. He also added that ambitious leaders are not good for the party.

    I too feel that Modi is not a party man but is more concerned about his own growth. This is another reason I feel he is unfit to be PM.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    I think all parties should have a panel of four or five potential PM’s/

    Though I think all members still think they are the potential PM’s. But probably some way the British Parties or the American Parties chose their candidates.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    you have bowled a googly. It is not such a straight forward issue. Here is what Mohan wrote this morning:

    “There may be many faults in Modi, but he is very sincere about development
    in Gujarat. He is not corrupt and is a workaholic person, he not only plans
    but makes sure that his plans are implemented…”

    Let me add a few things. He was sent by BJP to Gujrat to take charge of the state. Before that he had never shown any ambition to enter electoral politics.

    While the whole political class is discussing whether he is prime ministerial material, when he will throw his hat in the ring etc., he himself has NEVER EVER so much as hinted that he wants to be the PM. He is also NOT on record or off it saying what he rates himself as to the capability of bing a PM.

    I am not a big votary of Modi for PM’s post, while I am sure he will make a great PM. My desire is to see the back of this sham UPA and that a pro-people dispensation installed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It will be a great blessing for India if Modi becomes the PM.

    Time for all the “chors” to go home. We now need a builder of Sardar Patel’s mode/mould.

    BJP should let him loose to campaign.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    Modi as PM will be unacceptable to most of UPA allies. We need him as next Home Minister or may be Railway Minister. These both areas need urgent reforms.

  • Anonymous

    Mamta’s case just shows that all parties need to rise above personality cults.

    The older regional political parties…– the abdullas, the Badals, The mulayams, the Lalus , Karuna and sons, MGR and wives…

    Its all about single personalites.

    Even the COngress is a family cult… though it has the potential of becoming democratic and well organised.

    Can India actually have parties which are not personlaity driven?

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay-
    There will be family domination as long as our political party nomination process wrests with the party, and not with the people, like here in USA.

    It is extremely difficult for a politician’s son/daughter/relative to get elected here just because he/she is the politician’s relative. Party does not nominate anybody for any seat. people select who their candidates should be, from Panchayat level (village) to county/district, state, federal levels.

    Political party for the most part is an “idea” bearer – Democratic Party for a balanced approach between government/enterprise, Republican Party, especially with the current tea party dominance for a total free market unencumbered by regulation, government involvement, and for the most part for corporations to do stuff without caring for anybody.

    The recent supreme court ruling here declaring corporations as “people” , allowing corporations to spend unlimited dollars for advocacy advetisements will upset this in the short/medium or even long term. A corporate support group, for example, can spend unlimited money to promote their candidate (say a politician’s son), put him in a very positive light, while caricaturing the opponent as out of touch, extreme etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ benoy

    thanks for the input.

    My fear is that winners of the panchayat level may not yield National level leaders capable of understanding Agni and IT.

    We will probably still need a High command or a Central politburo or a Party president set up which first gets in four or five candidates, who then get selected becasue of polling by parties registered members.

    One condition all parties should really evolve is to ensure is honesty and dynastic capturing of the party does not happen.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    US citizens who want to vote in the “primaries” will register with the county (similar to India’ district) indicating their party affiliation – Democratic, Republican.

    All elected seats, be it Panchayat member, state MLA, MP, State CM (Governor here), and President, along with the numerous other elected positions go through a primary election first, and then a general election.

    For every seat, x number of people (Vijay, John, Mohan etc) will contest to be the nominee of the party on both parties’ sides during the “primary” process. The registered republican party members will elect Vijay as their republican party nominee for the Lucknow MP seat in the primary election.. Similarly, the registered democrats will elect the democratic nominee.

    People can vote across the party lines in the general elections. So, Vijay and the democratic party candidate will face each other in general elections, and whoever wins become the MP from Lucknow. A registered republican voter who voted fro Vijay in the primary can vote for anybody he wants in the general election.

    As you may know, the republican party is having their primary contests for their presidential nominee for the November election. Romney will be the nominee based on the results so far; however, the formal nomination will happen only after their party’s nominating convention in Tampa in the summer.

    Similar primary process is happening all across the country for the senate, house, state MLA, county representatives etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The good part is that it ensures that nobody can “capture” the party and promulgate a family rule. Local and natinal issues will also merge this way.

    bad part for india would be that this is a bit complicated and would need fine tuning. The American system presupposes two or three national parties… having evolved this way.

    Indians need to actually study this and the British method of selecting aspiring PM’s

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    You are right.
    It takes few parties, mature democracy, more money etc.
    The “family business model” will continue in India without some process like the US practice.

    Another reason why the “family model” is absent in the US is due to the fact that it is extremely difficult to be corrupt/to steal money. So, in that sense, no family has any vested interest in political positions — In general, people who get into politics are those who generally want to serve, who want to create a better life for the next generation. Elections are generally fought on these themes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the key here is that political leaders cant steal so easily as they do in India. The motivations for coming to power are different.

    In case the politician senses no chance of making kickback money or sees no scope of misusing law for his own business or fammily intierest, 80% of the current lot will jus tdrop off.

    Of course there would be dishonesty in matured democracies too. But not Indian style, where most MPs have huge business interests powered by their position.

    In case will come people who would lust to see their thougts and ideas implemented; who would want the respect which comes out of doing good work; status which comes out of adulation becasue of honesty.

    The whole system can be turned upside down.

    But how?

    That is what we need to probe.

  • Anonymous

    drug problems in Punjab..YTimes article – Jim Yardley -
    May be Pakistan is behind in the supply.. This may be their way of destroying India. Hope there is a plan 1- to make sure this does not spread across India 2- all assistance is given to Punjab to contain this. Punjab is the last place in India I would have guessed something like this will happen.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/asia/drug-addiction-is-a-growing-problem-in-punjab.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Pakistani Punjab is an opium den.

    Opium and other drugs may be coming from across the border with commercial as well as an ISI perspective.

    Why do you say “Punjab will be the last place for something ..” ? Punjabi farmers have too much disposable income for their children to buy/use these.

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  • Anonymous

    Times coverage of Missile launch by Heather Timmons. The China perspective is interesting
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/world/asia/india-says-it-successfully-tests-nuclear-capable-missile.html?hp

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Benoy

    Thnks for the link. For me the funny comment came from Praful Bidwai. Trust our lefites to have a CHina flag on their chaddi

    He wants India to take China’s help… then declares that China’s missile program is legitimate… as it targets India and the rest of the world !

    While India’s missile program is illegitmate as it targets China !

    Wow some servile logic…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Profool Bidwai is relic from the past…I just skip his blogs..Useless commie.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Real joker. I see him sometimes in Delhi… never talked to him though. Of course I am more tempted topull his ears ! :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    if you so much as touch his ears, they will sprout proletariat blood. You can try his beard.

  • Anonymous

    The “agni puthri” of India, role model for girls (and boys) to get into science education..
    as I mentioned yesterday, this gives me four reasons to be proud -
    An Indian, Malayali, Christian (not related to this Thomas), and a woman achiever! Go, Tessy, go!

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/meet-the-woman-behind-agniv-success/250201-3.html

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ WHAT MAMATA CAN LEARN FROM MODI ~~~~~
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    Mamta scared the nano project from Bengal so that it dropped into Modi’s lap in extreme west.

    Now mamta’s East India should learn a few tricks from Modi’s West India.

    I am highly impressed By Gujarat’s solar power initiative. Asia’s biggest solar village of 500 MW is partly functional now. Like Badal took advice from Modi and reversed his fortunes in the last year of his lacklustre ruel, Mamta can reverse fortune by picking up programs and ideas from Modi’s Gujarat.

    Solar Energy could be good start. Whenever I have installed solar panels on houses or buildings the whole feel becomes different. Eco friendly, energy efficient and a message in that. Yhe tech has changed by leaps and bounds.

    If mamta just builds up solar energy as her special initiatve… she can change her image.

    Though I feel she wont have the vision too and most likely keep crying victimhood…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some women become Tessys and fire real missiles… others become Mamta…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely right . Mamta is a dud now..

    tessy is India’s new face and future.

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  • Anonymous

    And whole of Islam is all about slavery of Sayyeds…

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  • Anonymous

    What happened to Bhangaarwala (Kabaadi) Sanjay? Looks like too busy clunking in Congress HQ…Poor guy is so insignificant, he doesn’t even get noticed by small fries like Shakeel Ahmed.

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistan Chief Justice Chowdhary hoodwinked the whole system and made it sure that Rinkal Kumari, Asha and Lata go back to their muslim husbands.

    Just watch this debate and see how muslims treat others when in majority. See how host is behaving…He is so partial.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHkDz7Nk_O4

    One day Indian muslims will have to pay for the sins of ******** across the border.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev-

    I do not understand much Hindi, but I get the gist. NYTimes has been covering this, including the latest ‘”decision”.

    However, I disagree with your statement “Indian Muslims will …”. Indian Muslims are not involved in the kidnapping, conversion, forced marriage etc of these girls.

    They could have organized a protest march against this – they always organize protest march against Israel’s treatment in the West Bank, or about US’ treatment of Muslims etc.

    GOI should be ridiculed — they should have taken the issue to Pak Govt, or expatriated all Hindus from Pak.

    Shameless Indians are pursuing trade with Pakistan!.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,
    Indian muslims are made from the same fabric. They can truly be good INDIAN muslims if they show empathy for minorities across the border. The muslim mind works very differently..They want tolerance and secularism when in minority and TOTAL Islam when in majority. Indian muslims are just biding for their time when they will be sizable minority (25% plus) and then we will see mayhem (We have already witnessed in J&K, now slowly also witnessing same thing in Kerala and Assam).

    If you knew hindi, you would have found many things in this video highly offensive.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Rajeev, what did Hindus here do? They will sit this out as they did when their fellow Hindus/human beings were massacred in Sri Lanka, leave alone conversion.

    Coming to think of it, what did the so called heroic Rajputs do in yester years? They willingly gave their daughters and sisters to Moghuls so they can get some gold or castle…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hindus should put pressure of always whining muslims to raise voice for hindus across the border.

    As for Rajputs, they were the reasons muslims ruled over India. Except for Rana Pratap most of them were pimps for muslims.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    This is one of the reason I can never trust Pakistan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev has reported about the happenings in Pakistan . let me report something about our country.
    A story was reported in the Indian Express today on the 5th or 6th page as a snippet that a Christian couple and a local friend were externed from Bandipora by the J&K Police for distributing Christian literature . This has not beeneven taken notice of by the Knights of Indian Secularism including the host of this blog who also is a member of the NMC . This is the true face of Indian Secularism and that is why these fakes can never enjoy credibility.
    Secularism as practiced by these fake secularists is nothing but a political device to encourage vote- bank politics. In the local MCD elections , almost all newspapers have reported that Congress bigwigs had appealed to Muslims to vote en-masse as a community .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen

    My take is that Ambedkar and his team worked overtime defining minorities (with no mention of majority) in the constitution, instead of just stating all as Indians, and defining the rights of Indians..thus they created an opening for politicians to appease.

    He focused on dividing the people, instead of focusing on how country’s resources will be allocated to the people – thus we have the never ending water disputes between karnataka/Tamil nadu on Kauveri, Karnataka/Maharashtra on Narmada et al

    I can go on

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  • Anonymous

    If you want somethin very badly, you will definitetly get it
    If you don’t get it that means you never wanted that badly enough.

    Good night.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    a good one!

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi, Mohan, Vijay Kumar,

    this news has made me very sad and angry:

    In its moment of celebration, DRDO leaves out ‘Agni putri’
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    As the Agni V missile thundered into the sky off the coast of Orissa on Thursday, it was a moment of triumph for Tessy Thomas, the scientist who broke the glass ceiling in the male-dominated arena of rocket science when she was appointed to head the Agni IV mission.

    But the name of the woman who has played a crucial role in the development of the Agni series of missiles was missing in the press release issued by the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO). The release mentioned all other scientists present at the launch.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-its-moment-of-celebration-drdo-leaves-out-agni-putri/939181/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    Looks like they mentioned only the “administrative” bureaucracy..may not have any ulterior move…

    Anyway, let us hope, she will inspire many girls (and boys) will pick up Science studies — and not MBA .

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  • Anonymous

    Murtaz Razvi, an eminent journalist of Dawn newspaper in Pakistan is killed…

    A fine journalist, he was against the ISI high handedness, increasing terrorism etc..
    Sad that we can not read his columns any more.

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  • Anonymous

    A wonderul blog written by Pramit Pal Chaudhri today , also the links provided there to 3 articles on Nepal , Pakistan and Sri-Lanka. All articles are a treat to read.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    karunanidhi has already started fishing… He declared that there will be a Tamil nation in the north of Sri Lanka in the Jaffna region.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is the trouble with regional parties. In case htey lose… they start taking extreme positions without seeing the central national interest.

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  • Anonymous

    How many HIndu men are married to Muslim girls in Pakistan and still alive? One or two?

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  • Anonymous

    This gentleman must be really frustrated with his wife. He was heard telling his friend
    ‘ next month is my silver wedding anniversary, I am taking my wife to a nice peaceful
    hill station at a remote place. I will again go there on our golden wedding anniversary
    and bring her back ‘
    His friend asked him why? This is what he said
    ‘ wife is a knife to the life ‘

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  • Anonymous

    Engrich,

    I have always enjoyed your jokes including this one.

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  • Anonymous

    ———————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~~ THE BATTLE OF THE WOMB ~~ how Pakistanis unite to forcibly convert ~~
    ———————————————————————————————————————–

    I hae been stressing that the Paksitani state and most people unite when it comes to forcibly convert minoirties, especially Hindus and CHristians. They even put forward coy suggestions that these are love marriages and we, the right wing are intruding in a matter of hearts !! :)

    Manohar took this line.

    Engrich takes the line which most of Pakistan takes. That these kidnapped girls are being converted to a better religion so what is wrong? In fact he boasts (in his earlier posting) that he has converted 10-12 girls himself.

    My line is that Marriage, religion and relationships are a matter of heart. BUT >>> BUT>>> But…

    WHat is being done in Pakistan is A PROACTIVE STATE WHICH CAPTURES THE WOMB SO THAT NON MUSLIMS ARE NOT PRODUCED. There is a conspiracy of silence which ensures that this act gets done smoothly and with a duplciotus facade… the same way they handle their terror program.

    Here is one big question.

    Show me ten HIndus who married Muslim girls in Pakistan, without converting to Islam themselves. WHat is the ratio of Muslim girls converitn to Hinduism to marry Hindus in Paksitan as compared to Hindu girls forcible married to Muslm men and accepting Islam.

    There will be a conspiracy of silence on this now.

    Here is an article from the International Herald Tribune:
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    KARACHI:
    Their logic is hard to argue with: why are Hindu men not converting? Why is it that only young girls of a marriageable age are surfacing in these cases? And if these girls are so keen to convert, why don’t they go to madrassas, learn the religion and then go through with it?

    Shaking with rage, Amarnath Motumal of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), asked this barrage of questions at a press conference on Saturday. It was held with the tearful families of victims of forced conversions who demanded that their girls should be returned to them.

    “When a girl is converted, why is she married off immediately?” Motumal said. “If she has converted for the sake of Islam, then why doesn’t she join a madrassa to educate herself and spread knowledge about the religion?”

    He said that around 20 to 22 girls are being converted every month, but families do not go public as they fear the incident will ruin their reputation.

    The family of 19-year-old Rinkle Kumari, who was allegedly abducted, forced to covert and marry a Muslim, claimed that they are receiving death threats.

    “Take the case back or we will kill you all,” is the threat the family received on March 8, according to the Rinkle’s brother-in-law Inder Lal.

    A frustrated Lal said that if Rinkle had converted and married of her own free will, she would have held a press conference immediately after the court’s decision. “For six days, she was quiet. It was only when the issue was raised internationally, that she came in front of the media.”

    After the last court hearing in Sukkur, Rinkle appeared before the media and stated that she was not forced by anyone. But her family has stuck to its stance that Rinkle’s conversion to Islam and her marriage to Naveed Shah was forced.

    “She did not even know the person,” exclaimed Rinkle’s father, Nand Lal, who is a primary school teacher in Mirpur Mathelo. “We have no internet or telephone connections at home, so there is no way she could have been in touch with Naveed.” He informed that Rinkle had recently completed her intermediate studies and two days before Rinkle was allegedly kidnapped, she was planning to go to Karachi to shop for her brother’s wedding.

    While talking to The Express Tribune, the family provided new information about the alleged kidnapping. “Rinkle’s friend Kiran was the brains behind the plan. She took money from the kidnappers and gave them all the information about Rinkle,” accused Nand Lal. “We wanted to nominate Kiran in the FIR but the DSP refused.”

    According to the family, Rinkle was kidnapped by armed men while on her way to the bathroom built in the courtyard.

    “If she had planned to elope, she would have taken her slippers and her sweater,” pointed out her family members. “But she was kidnapped barefoot and without any warm clothes in the cold weather.”

    The family, who are in Karachi for the time being, asked that Rinkle should be taken to a neutral place for at least eight days and be allowed to meet her family.

    Raised voices

    Rinkle’s mother covered her face with a dupatta and wept silently as the HRCP Sindh vice chairperson voiced the community’s troubles. “We can’t even sleep at night, wondering whether our kidnapped girls would become suicide bombers or would they be sold off into prostitution,” lamented Motumal.

    He said that forced conversion is not a new practice, claiming that extremists are taking advantage of the religion by preaching at madrassas on how to convert non-Muslims.

    “When an underage girl is forced to convert, she is not allowed to meet her family. She is told that the people who gave birth to her and raised her have become Kaafirs.”

    Lata’s story

    The press conference was also attended by the family of 29-year-old Dr Lata Kumari, who was kidnapped on February 28 on her way to the College of Physicians and Surgeons in DHA. Her family alleged that she has been forcibly converted and married to Nadir Baig Dhar, the son of a suspended judge.

    Lata’s father, Dr Ramesh Kumar, spoke out against the harsh treatment that the family received in the court on March 7. “The police did not even let us meet Lata at the first hearing of the case and they beat us with sticks,” said Lata’s mother, a hypertension patient. “The kidnappers did not leave burqa-clad Lata alone for even a minute. Nadir and his goons would come in front of me every time I approached her. I could not even look at my daughter properly.”

    Kumar said that they knew Nadir from before, claiming that the accused had converted five Hindu girls already. According to Lata’s brother Vishal, Nadir works at the quality assurance department of a motor company.

    “Lata clutched my arm and asked me to do something for her,” said a teary eyed Joti, Lata’s sister. “Why are the criminals not letting us meet her, what are they scared of?”

    Kumar alleged that the signature on the documents were not Lata’s.

    Lata, who has an MBBS degree from Larkana, used to live at the Aga Khan hostel and had worked as a medical researcher. Two of her siblings are also doctors and live in Hyderabad, while the rest of the family lives in Jacobabad.

    During the press conference, another suspected kidnapping came up. People from Jacobabad said that a Hindu girl Asha Devi, who used to work at a beauty parlour, never made it home from work.

    HRCP’s Badar Soomro condemned the forced conversions of the three per cent minority population in the country. “Why are the extremists after the minorities? Let them live freely.”

    On March 8, the Supreme Court directed the Sindh police IG to find Lata, Rinkle and another Hindu girl Pooja Devi, and present them at the next hearing on March 26. However, the families were not hopeful. “They [the courts] record statements under section 164 and then the girl is sent immediately with the criminals,” said Motumal. “She is given no time to think about her decision or talk to her family.”

    He suggested that the court should give such girls a week’s time to make up their mind, while they stay at the Darul Aman with their mother.

    Published in The Express Tribune, March 11th, 2012.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    India Gov could have lodged a protest against the forced conversions, as well as the general anti-minority environment that has been further worsened by the enactment of “blasphemy law”.

    Muslims here who protest on a regular basis against the Israeli treatment of West Bank Arabs could have staged a protest march against this. At least as a PR gesture.

    Also, as I mentioned earlier in a response to Rajeev, Hindus here could have raised their voice. But no. They remained silent when their fellow Hindus/human beings were slaughtered in Sri Lanka. And they are silent to this one now.

    But what did the so called heroic Rajputs do yester years? They were glad to give their daughters and sisters to the mogul kings and the local Muslim nawabs in exchange for a pot of gold or castle…..

    Well, the tradition continues – we want trade now — nothing has changed!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    I think we should learn from the past. Indians , especially Muslims have to protest against this at th Pakistani embassy. If, nothing , the badnaami Paksitan gets will make some small changes in their attitude. On the home front, the Muslim protest at the Paksitani embasy will definately send a signal to doubters that Indian Muslims are different and are all for minority protection, secularism and against blasphemy laws.

    I think we need to give open visas to the persecuted minorites of Pakistan. Nothing big about it. When 2 crore Bangladeshis can come and settle here… we can surely take in genuinely tortured minorities from pakistan.

    In the end it just shows how wrong the Congress is by campaigning for votes on communal lines as it did in UP. It is bound to strenghten the forces of separatism and division.

    I doubt whether this UPA government has the good of India in mind as it asks us to lower its guard against Pakistan. While the whole world is sick of it… we are attmpting to become its saviours.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am for granting visa/asylum to Hindus who want to get out of Pakistan..and close all ties toPakistan

  • Anonymous

    All those wanting Orders to be passed against the Gujarat Govt , move the SC now .

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  • Anonymous

    http://www.twitvid.com/9RKOW

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    Anonymous Reply:

    With this video moving around, his political career is about over. The country will not accept a law Minister or even a party spokesman, caught with pants down. Was there any mention of giving some government job of high level for getting this favour? Could not hear as I had turned off the sound… was in office and as usual pretending to be working!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It looks as if he too was pretending to be ‘working’.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    really gr8 !!

    Kaam aur kaamsutra ki doori poori kar di !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Till now Dr.Singhvi was preaching law to everybody.
    Now he has become the lawfing stock of his party.
    Having been removed from the media head position, he will now preach Kamasutra to all sutradhars in politics, business and also THE MEDIA!

    Vinodji, watch out for honey-traps.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I pretend to have not watched the video in the above link.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Of course all in the AICC office too have pretended not too have watched it with their eyes CLOSED.

    Some were wondering whether he was swearing on the law books… but then they never saw it.

    I think the curse of swearing Modi Modi all the time is coming back . First to Vir Sanghvi and Barkha and now to him.

    The issue is that did Aaj Tak really have somehting so deadly in its possession– like offering judgeship– that this government would have fallen.

    Imagine the implication. You hire a decison maker for a certain performance and then is not the decison maker going to give you favourable decisons?

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    Looks like a Aamr Singh doctored one…..

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  • Anonymous

    No,
    India doesn’t have to spend crores on “looking after” Hafiz Saeed. If he sees the progress made by India with his own eyes, within a few months he will die of jealousy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We can even show him singhvi video to torture him

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  • Anonymous

    “The Central government on Friday said that the Kerala police had no authority to detain the Italian ship ‘Enrica Lexie’. The Centre told the Supreme Court that the Kerala Police Station had no jurisdiction to detain the ship or probe the incident as the incident occurred on high seas. ”
    CM of Kerala says that he took all steps after consulting the Centre. If this was the satnd of the GOI what was the need for all the Tamasha ? Wonder what was the influence which brought such a change in the GOI ’s position. After all we had all read about the two Italian marines although in police custody were put up at the CISF guest house as guests of the State.
    Wonder what was the influence which brought such a change in the GOI ’s position?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Kerala CM initially didn’t allow the Italian marines to be shifted to the CRPF guest house and then had to relent (I have seen a few pics of them in a guest house on the web – some reports do suggest that their families met them in prison – can’t make up my mind). Now, the centre has changed its stand in the SC that the incident took place within Indian waters.

    I love the Kerala Police arguement on this developing story…

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/kerala-fishermen-killings-case-centre-does-u-turn/1/185302.html

    What does the law say on this?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    The Italian ship/marines issue is not getting much local coverage here.

    The big thing here is how Muslim League twisted UDF/Congress to get another – fifth- ministerial berth. Congress already has a Muslim minister, so with this new addition there are six Muslims in the cabinet – out of 20 ministers.

    There is a lot of coverage, mostly neagtive, on this.Even the Msulim minister from Congress is against this. There are all sorts of horse-trading happening.

    The way things are, Muslim League can ask for a few more ministerial slots, because UDF will collapse without Muslim League support

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now, Congres shouldn’t lecture us on communalism; and

    Abhishek Manu Singhvi, I am sure, wouldn’t lecture us anymore on “chal, charitra and chehra”…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar, Gopi, Praveen Saxenaji,

    Very interesting how “rishte badalte hain”.

    In the early 1960s when Muslim League leader Mohammed Koya was sworn in as the speaker of the Kerala assembly, the state Congress had insisted that he take off his fur cap at the ceremony.

    Koya had to yield to the demand from the powerful coalition leader. As if that alone was not enough, none other than Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru had come out with a statement: “The League is a dead horse”.

    DURING THE LAST FIVE DECADES, THE CONGRESS HAS BECOME A CHAMPION AT EATING HUMBLE PIES. NOW IN THE KERALA CABINET, MINORITIES ARE IN A MAJORITY (12 OUT OF 21)!

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS
    You are right about koya.(actually koya was a nationalist, although belonged to ML)

    Fast forward 50 years. The education minister, who is a Muslim League member refused to light the standard “bhadra deepam” to inaugurate the State Youth festival- KJ Jesudas who was an invited guest lighted it instead!.

    (edu ministry was always in ML hands in all non-Marxist coalition governments beacuse until recently there was not much money making opportunity in Edu dept, so congressis did not want that dept, and ML was more than happy to have it — so they acn employ Arab teachers, give pensions to Madrasa Mullahs, include Arabic elocution contests for youth featival — you name it)..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Congress amintains Muslim League is not communal, but BJP is!

    Anonymous Reply:

    A day will soon come when the centre will tell Maharashtra government that they had no right to arrest Kasab!

    ANd for the sin of having arrested him, he will be baa-izzat bari kiya jayegaa.

    baa-izzat=5.00crore rupees (genuine notes)

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  • Anonymous

    ————————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~~ CONGRATS TO VINOD SHARMA ! ~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————————————–

    Amid the heat and dust of the arguments on this blog, let me congratulate you for the Title of the blog.

    Merciless Mamata !!

    Her love is certainly merciless. Aisa pyaar toh dushmanon ko mubarak ho… !

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  • Anonymous

    India Today is running a cover story called the “Booby trap.” It is about breast enhancement.

    Well, find it strange that somthing which is now found to be explosive in france– with silicon implanted 30 years in various breasts “xploding” should be such a huge issue.

    In the end are the girls preffering to switch over from delivering “the milk of human kindness’ to “ice igloos of hard frigidty…” ?

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  • Anonymous

    For M J Akbar fans, here’s his analysis post MCD polls…

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-editorial-director-m-j-akbar-on-mcd-polls-bjp-defeats-congress/1/185298.html

    He goes on to relate it with recent UP assembly elections and says:
    Congress would have got the same results, with or without his campaign. The story is not that Rahul Gandhi did not make a difference, but that he could not make a difference.
    ——

    Interesting as always.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Akbar is probably among the top ten journos of India !!!

    Period.

    VIndo Sharma is also among the top… as long as COngress doesnt come into the pic. See his blogs on the NE and Dev Anand and for that matter on Jagjit Singh. Bass yeh Congress ki gulami ke karan… apni position consolidate nahi kar paa rahe..

    C’mon Vinodji… dump this losing Congress and dynastic worship…

    And see how we all salute you …

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  • Anonymous

    From a media darling to a porn star!
    Abhi is the Sonny Lion of congress party!!!!!!!!

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~~ BANGARU LAX MAN WAS WRONGED~~~ congressis please apologise ~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    Sanjayji and Vinodji, please come out of retirement and give comments

    Let is compare two CDs. In one Bangaru aLaxman is deliberately induced with a paltry sum of Rs 50,000/- for a fake deal in which he promises NOTHING !! tehelka and its trolls and pimps (they supplied whores to army) just forcibly hand over the money

    In the second

    The Congress chief spokesman

    a) Does yaun uthpeedan and promises judgeship in case of BJ ( Blow J_ _) and probably expects court decisons to favour congress

    b) his party chief smiles and dismisses issue as that of love

    c) Congress does nothing

    d) The sanctity of the supreme court has been spoilt by BJ and moral turpitude in remises

    Tauba Tauba Tauba… Yeh sab kya ho raha hai????????? Kya girawat hai congress mein !! Tauba Tauba Taub!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Abhishake ne Soniaji ko wo haseen din yaad dila diye..Unko to inaam se nawaza jana chahiye.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think Abhishek’s rather tepid performance is reflective of the tepid performance of the COngress in the past few elections :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Was that lady with Abhishake our Ravi in wigs?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Raviji has been absent from the blogs
    Is he in the bogs?

    or does he now wear a wig
    and delive B jobs
    ?

  • http://dealstop.co.uk Larry

    Merciless Vinod Sharma pounding anyone who dares to be a thorn in UPA’s arse

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  • Anonymous

    bad, bad, bad

    after 60 years!

    take 4 % out of gdp..
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/business/global/india-struggles-to-deliver-enough-electricity-for-growth.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We have serious power shortage this year!

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  • Anonymous

    Largest solar emergy field – gujrat -report wash post
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/gujarat-flips-switch-on-worlds-largest-solar-leading-indias-renewable-energy-mission/2012/04/19/gIQAZghhST_story.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx benoy

    Really inspiring article. Gujarat now has 66% of India’s solar capacity.

    I think Modi’s personel advise to Badal to resurrect his image got Badal to install solar in Punjab over canals in a big way.

    Unfortunately , as you would notice on this blog, msot people would spend their time villyfying Gujaratis , rather than trying to learn governance which is getting so many breakthroughs there.

    Mamta can go for solar. But she wont.

    Jaya probably would…

    Congress states would just look at Rahul g for instructions. But would never get insprired enough to copy Modi on this…

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Biggest shock.

    Preparing to go for honeymoon, wife told her husband ‘ take only Kohinoor condoms
    as I am allergic to other brands ‘

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    Anonymous Reply:

    subah subah 10000 volt jhatka,,,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Kohinoor ka noor! Subah nallah!!
    andhere mein bhi chamakta hai!!!!!!!

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  • Anonymous

    MERCILESS MAMATA
    MERCIFUL SONIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Even after the whole world has watched with hilarity and mirth the congress party’s chief of media cell on a CD indulging in sexploitation, Sonia Gandhi has shown great amount of “understanding” and spared Abhishek Manu Singhvi of the rod.

    Madamji, there is this saying, “spare the rod and spoil the children”.

    You are actually encouraging others like Manish Tiwari etc. to exploit such situations.

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  • Anonymous

    Dirty video and subversion of system.

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/randomaccess/entry/dirty-video-and-subversion-of-system

    This is not only about sex, but what is being promised in return.
    These people at prominent places in government are prepared to compromise anything.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    That is what I have been stressing from day 1. The system is being sold for sex and money. THE BIG STORY IS SELLING GOVERNMENT POSTS FOR SEXUAL FAVOURS…

    Congress watch out. Sabka haath ab thapadd ban gaya hai…

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ CONGRESS NEIN COURT KI MARYADA BHANG KAR DI ! ~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    There are two aspects of the dirty video of the COngress spokeman.

    a) Is fornification alowed in court premises. One has to check out the relevent PENal acts to decipher Manu Singhvi’s penis act.

    We need to temember that Congress was a party of fantastic lawyers once. Wonder what lawyers like Gandhi, patel and Nehru would have said about fornification in court premises by a congresman

    b) The promise of judgeship for the sexual favour. Gandhi aur nehru ke desh mein yeh girawat kaisi? This is gross gross gross abuse of position and power.

    The CBI should swing into action and media for once should probe the genuine CD.

    ———————————————————————–

    I have a feelign that the BJP will be too decent to the COngress on this. The BJP has Jailtey who was good freinds with Manu and his father LM Singhvi. They would let COngress of the hook

    Would be sad if the COngress is let off and then they would see the same Congress start shouting Modi Modi rape rape and see it misuse the CBI .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    Thre is another aspect to the issue. The driver is said to have conceded before the court that he got the CD fabricated etc in Bihar. That he wanted a large amount of money from Singhvi . The Court hastily accepted this contention and granted permanent injunction. But is this man not liable to be prosecuted criminally. The Court it appears was in a hurry to bring an end to this episode and has ignored and has not gone into this aspect. The shopkeeper in Bihar who allegedy fabricated this CD is also liable to be prosecuted . Let us see how this case proceeds now. I spoke to lawyer friend of mine from the Delhi High Court. He had seen the video on the very first day and disclosed the identity of the Lady advocate also. Presently she is believed to be abroad.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The little guy will end up in jail and the big guy will go on destroying the country..

    Sanghvi’s story, for a brilliant lawyer, looks like one that is “set up” in a hurry. A long term driver gets fired on March 17th…the little driver who knows how powerful Sanghvi is, blackmails him!

    Now, is there a case if the driver, obviously under threat to him and his family or lured by the promise of money, declares the video is fraud?
    Is there any clause where a third party (say your lawyer friend) can file a case to do a “forensic” on the conversation, because the subject discussed is a very grave one.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Our friend, Vinodji will be the best consultant who can guide us and give friendly advice at this critical juncture in the life of our dear party, the national heritage, a great asset called the congress party.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Seems that all spinners will get going on this. But I also expect Manu SInghiv’s opponenets in the COngress would be getting some pleasure out of this.

    Overll since this hits the Congress… chances are that this would be buried.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    I have not seen anywhere any statement from the lady lawyer. Have you?

    Did she want to be a judge to be a judge or to make money like the judge from Kolkotta high court, Chandigarh, and also like KG Balakrishnan? She is a rich woman according to news reports, did she want even more???

    It is really really bad.. On one day the country goes to the zenith of scientific accomplishment; on another day to the nadir of moral and righteousness depravity.

    Scientific accomplishments do not make a nation. Values do.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    This lady wants to become a judge as the writer of an article says
    of which I provided the link this morning.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Gopi, Praveen Saxenaji,

    The lady’s name, ironically, is Anusuya Salwan and she badly needed to become a judge.

    As to why the judge gave a hurried decision in favour of Singhvi may be because he/she too must have become a judge by doing “service” to the media head of the congress party.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    This lady Ms. Salwan has gone abroad as Praveen informed us. The reason of her going abroad could be that she started
    getting calls from other leaders of Congress claiming that
    they are in better position to make her a judge. Now it is
    anybody’s guess as to what they would have asked her
    in reciprocation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Mohan, leave the lady alone….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Ok won’t comment about her.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Dont havw any illusions of the present set of ladies i hi fi positions. You can read about SImran sood who had no qualms about murdering or Maria susiaraj who chopped her lover to pieces. NDTV today,talks about one Ms Patel in Washington who asked he husband to expect a sexual oil massage and then poured gasoline over him and lit him up.

    Point is girls today are equally complicit in illegal activites. Kani mozhi took the stance that she is maa behn and biwi so 200 crores should be forgotten and Nalini takes the stance that she is maa, behen and biwi so free me despite the killing of the PM.

    Wwe suffer from illusions that ALL girls are soft and understanding and innocent. That is NOT so.

    Had Ms Salwan not dangled herself,
    SInghvi might not have mangled himself…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Liked your last sentence..

    Anonymous Reply:

    I like the response and the last rhyming stanza the most.

    yes, today’s nari is no abala. She can be a decoit, robber, knifer, lifer, murderer, cheat, 420, fixer, charmer, thief and all other things, which men hate.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, you are right.

    there may be calls from ministers, like it happened with a nurse in Rajasthan. Now some ministers may promise to make her supreme court judge, directly.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes Shenoy Saab … that was the name I had heard , but I did want to mention it on this public forum. But Shenoy Saab kindly exercise more restraint when talking of courts or judges.
    On the Net I have also seen news item that the present C J of India had rejected and sent back a panel of 5 names recommended by the Delhi High Court collegium , for appointment as Judges, and this name was in that panel.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the Congress wallahs on this blog are in a damage control mode elsewhere — must be monitoring the sites to remove the video…

    where is Manu Joseph/Open Magazine on this? Now that he is an “insider” with the powerful, he may keep silent. (and go after Modi for his inaction, as they have done in this issue!)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Even from this blog, Sanjay, the the most vehement defender of Congress
    is missing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopji,

    Modi will be only criticized by our mainstream media. Yesterday Benoy
    provided a link where Gujarat flipped the switch on Asia’s largest solar
    power plant which was completely ignored by our media.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    You are right. I did not read anywhere about the solar energy accomplishment in Gujrat, commissioning of the largest solar energy producer in Asia…

    There is power cut everywhere in India – eevn though the real summer has not yet set in. It is going to be a bad summer with more power cuts.

    Gujrat is the only state where there is no power cut

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  • Anonymous

    In Malayalam, we have a usage “Thakarnna Tharavad” . Both these words are not easily translatable to other languages. “thakarnna”, sort of means decayed from within, decayed through deliberate actions of inheritors, decayed beyond redemption etc. “tharvad” is the ancestral house, lineage, heredity…. Some Tharvads like Palat (of ex foerign secretary Shiv Shanker Menon) produces generations of foreign secretaries (KPS Menon, PN Menon, Shiv Shanker etc) and scientists (MGK Menon) and stalwarts in other fields time and time again, whereas other Tharvads decay and self
    destruct becoming “thakarnna tharavad” ..

    Has India become a “Thakarnna Tharavad” ? now that we have started selling judgeships for sexual favour? Shouldnt judgeships be a little higher priced?

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Merciless mamta has given UPA 15 days notice.

    Seems she is mercilessly going to hsake the pack of cards called UPA..

    Then mercilessly commit suicide…

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  • Anonymous

    This was not reported by media.

    During President Zardari’s recent visit to India, our PM had asked him that what
    steps he was taking to curb terrorism in Pakistan. Zardari said ” Trust me, we
    are taking very serious steps to curb terrorism in Pakistan as you are doing
    to curb corruption in India “

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  • Anonymous

    Where have all these regulars and not so regulars gone.?

    Manohar, Shan, Ravi, Ashish, Mahesh, Balwinder, Dr. Mishra, Vinay.

    This blog needs different views from all of you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you have studiously avoided mentioning Sanjay.

    You think he is always present on the blog invisibly?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Sometimes I find myself unable to reply to the ‘innocent’ query raised.
    This is one of those times.
    (: (:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay must be working overtime to fix the CD fiasco..
    May be Manohar too. (sorry, Manohar!)
    Balwinder had a health problem when he visited Agra, hope he is OK now.
    Dr Shnatanu must be helping out Didi or he may have found out his Satyaavthi.

    Ravi must be writing his seminal book “4000 Rapes and Devdasis, not ancient as they tell you”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 Gopi

    U r turning out to be pretty pretty witty !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Very good one. I have to come up with more jokes as competition
    for me is growing.

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  • Anonymous

    Friends,

    I am in a deeply introspective mood right now after seeing the photos.

    Why, why did you, Dr.Singhvi, risk your life’s achievements for the sake of a few minutes’ rolling in the buff with a surrendered woman?

    What was your family’s fault? WHy did you forget about them?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Shenoy

    Power aur Kaam ki hawas mein aadmi haiwan ban jaata hai. Quite possibly the woman might have said, “I am giving myself to you… and you can expect all judgments from hereon… to be similar…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    We will still see Mrs. Singhvi coming out in defense of her husband as she
    would like to maintain harmony at her home.
    Long live Bharatiaya Nari.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My feelings are with mrs Singhvi and one can empathise with her.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He must have seen his wife in the other woman — both sort of look alike, although the wife is quite elegant and classy looking (may be she was not giving “that” to him because his looks do not match hers!)

    Mohan is right; she will come in defence of him! long live bharathiy nari as he says

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    Well all of us ae vulnerable. Detection equipment have changed. Cams have changed.

    And men and women have changed. I know of cases where decent guys have been caught on cam by their friends and then blackmailed. We all know of the DPS guy who shot pics of his school girlfriend and circulated them around.

    Similarly they have been cases where call girls have shot their clients.

    So all of us have to be carefull….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    You are right about this. Few years back here in Dubai a school girl
    in her teens was tricked by her boyfriend and videographed her in a
    compromised position. She committed suicide.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    I think indians will have to come around to accept the new sexuality prevailing somewhere, even if they dont like it.

    In the Aarushi murder case in Noida, nobody, including me, is ready to accept that a mother and father– both educated could kill their child. But the CBI is now coming to that conclusion, now.

    Well looking back , in the end the parents should have reacted differently. Maybe tried to explain to the girl, wean her away from the servant… whatever. Difficult to accept. But then India is changinf for good or bad…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    I hope a sociology professor does some research into these unbelievable type crimes.

    One thing I notice is that there is more “honour of the family” type killings in the North or among certain groups in the North – brother killing sister (with the agreement of parents!), parents killing daughter (like this Arushi situation, to be proved).. May be there is more a “tribal” sense (affiliation with a group) there..

    I wonder if it has to do with the legacy left behind all the invasions……

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    You are quite right on this. North is backward in this matter and it reflects in the higher degree of female foeticide.

    I think it has partly to do with the interaction with the cultures of the invaders. Where female virginity and “purity” is valued while for males it is not so important. Now of course how are all the males supposed to be having it… unless they have some females as partners?

    There are double standards which will not be easy to eradicate.

    I think out here the role of a woman beyond Maa, behen aur biwi is still to be accepted outside of towns.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Ask a young boy what type of wife he wants, the usual answer will be
    Sati savtri type, and ask him about girlfriend he will say that she should be of
    Modern outlook, wearing short dresses, interested in clubbing and all
    such qualities. Actually we all are bunch of hypocrites.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think there has to be some evolution on this… now!

    hypocrisy was fine for yesteryears… now we need to move further on…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    I hope a sociology professor does some research into these unbelievable type crimes.

    One thing I notice is that there is more “honour of the family” type killings in the North or among certain groups in the North – brother killing sister (with the agreement of parents!), parents killing daughter (like this Arushi situation, to be proved).. May be there is more a “tribal” sense (affiliation with a group) there..

    I wonder if it has to do with the legacy left behind all the invasions……

  • Anonymous

    Effects of marriage.

    Sher ki shaadi mein ek chuha naach raha tha. Dost ne Poocha tum kyon
    naach rahe ho? Chuhe ne kaha ‘ Aaj mere Bhai ki shaadi hai ‘
    Dost ‘ sher tera Bhai kaise hua ‘ Chuhe ne jawab diya ‘ shaadi ke pehle
    mein bhi sher tha ‘

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Good one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Gud to have u back.. Unfortunately now I am about to dose off… so definately will keep u in mind as a dialogue consultant…

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Vijay for the offer. I am not as good dialogue writer as you presume. You will certainly have better ones. This being weekend, and as boss is not around here, I have become bold to tinker with keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    Importance of being Fauja Singh .
    Read on about this amazing person at :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh
    Search for him on You tube to find how un-believably healthy a person for can be even at 100 .
    p.s. for UK folks : Tomorrow’s London Marathon will see this person participate in the event (probably his last marathon before retiring from the long distance running events) . If possible, feel free to take your time off and meet / greet the person and be blessed with inspiration.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fauj Singh is indeed an Indian legend who inspires the world. Een if we can’t run the marathon… we can at least try to run/jog some 200 -300 metres at keast everyday… just to keep our joints moving…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is of Indian origin and currently a Birtish National.
    In either case, neither of it matters much.
    Also, there is more to running than just Joints.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I try to run for 30 minutes daily and appreciate the effect it has on my heart rate, blood circulation, mental stamina and general well being…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good . Stretch the duration to 45 mins, 1 hour – whatever possible, add about 300 Skips (preferably using skipping rope) to those minutes of running. Have more fun.

  • Anonymous

    Importance of being Fauja Singh .
    Read on about this amazing person at :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh
    Search for him on You tube to find how un-believably healthy a person for can be even at 100 .
    p.s. for UK folks : Tomorrow’s London Marathon will see this person participate in the event (probably his last marathon before retiring from the long distance running events) . If possible, feel free to take your time off and meet / greet the person and be blessed with inspiration.

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  • Anonymous

    So Didi now wants to have her own state newspaper and state TV to fight against others who spread “bad news” about her and her administration!

    Her citizens can eat news food instead of real food!

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan,
    Back to Amazon topic…..
    It is not just about Amazon turning into Monopoly. There is more to it here.
    The kind of capitalism we are witnessing has gotten way more complex , complexity being not just the operations but consequences as well .
    During early days of 2008 Financial crisis – a popular argument was made about regulatory framework lagging behind the development. In that sense – the picture is far more murky in this part of world . Plus the social safety net is very weak. This complicates the situation much much more. We may not even know what hit us – or is already hitting us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What is hitting India currently is maoism and protests.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    mahesh

    Regulation is always behind innovation. It is always enacted in response to a problem caused by innovation – for example the balance sheet requirements, derivative restrictions, asset securitization limitations etc for the U*S financial institutions in response to Wall Street meltdown

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    While I agree with your argument at its face value – recent history has been at variance from it and hints at lack of willingness to regulate, which IMHO is a bigger problem . Notice – despite severe problems – the regulations on financial industry have not been exactly forthcoming.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yaar, Mahesh,

    here the Ganga is on fire with seedy CDs spreading havoc and you are talking about the distant Amazon.

    Are you also affected by the Singhvi bug which has kept all the trolls away from the blog?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Uncle ji,
    I am sure – with all these years in life – you know the difference between spectacular and devastating .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Complex solutions with complex operations for the simple problems will
    result in complex consequences. Ultimately, IMO everything boils down
    to human nature which is prejudiced, egoist and mainly selfish. Me and my family first. 2008 crises came into focus with Lehman Brothers going down.
    This entity was allowed to go down because of personal grudges but AIG which was facing similar or perhaps bigger problems was saved by US government. What led to this crises was pure greed. Rules and systems
    were overlooked/flouted by various agencies like banks, hedge funds,
    internal and external auditors and rating agencies. Should the blame for all
    this be borne by capitalism or the people who do not follow the ‘rules’
    laid out by this system.
    One of the reason of weak social safety net is also because people
    responsible are more interested in their own welfare while overlooking
    the welfare of the state and its people.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    I am not passing “wholesale blame” to capitalism. My argument has been about the complexity and our inability to grapple with it. Plus also the lack of willingness.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh capilalism keeps evolving. The net has got us to talk on this forum … so you cant blame the net for Amazon using it to sell. Main part is the taxes … which country gets them.

    The other part is smaller businesses need to keep playign smartly and keep evolving.

    All big retailers eventually buy from the small guy.

    Many of the big malls in Delhi have collapsed, but the colony grocery shops thrive. There are many twists to this tale.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,
    Regulation is part of that evolution you are hinting at.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Regulation needs to keep evovling.

    The biig guys too keep tumbling. That is part of evolution.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can you be a bit clear here ?

  • Anonymous

    Saw movie Vicky Donor, nice different movie. Punjabis and Bengalis will specially
    like this.

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  • Anonymous

    about Bihar CM – Brookigs Report…
    ttp://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2012/0320_nitish_antholis.aspx

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  • Anonymous

    Classic example of a life partner.

    Someone who will stand by you though all the troubles which you would
    not have had if you had stayed single.

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  • Anonymous

    Missing people from the blog.

    Mohan commented about some people missing from the blog. I have a feeliing that 2-3 of them might have been shamed by the latest seedy CD. Maybe they are trying to find a BJP and Modi link.

    here are a few lines they can work on

    a) The Driver was BJP, paid by Modi

    b) The female artiste was BJP and linked to Modi

    And now the mother of all conspiracy theories

    c) The Principal actor and party spokesman starring in the CD , was BJP agent… out to defame the Congress !!!!!

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  • farid

    I think she is sick and needs treatment.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    who? the camel or the captain?

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  • Anonymous

    Can you control your urges ?

    A new army captain was assigned to an outfit in a remote post in the
    African desert. During his first inspection of the outfit, he noticed a camel
    hitched up behind the tent. He asked the sergeant about this to which he
    replied ‘ Sir, as you know there are 300 men on this post and no women, and
    sometimes men have urges. That is why we have this camel. Captain said ‘ I can’t
    say that I officially agree with this, but I understand about urges, so the camel
    can stay . ‘ After about a month the captain started having his own urges. Crazy
    with passion, he asked the sergeant to bring the camel to his tent. Putting a
    ladder behind the camel. the captain stood on it, dropped his pants and had a
    wild sex with the camel. After he was done, he asked the sergeant ‘ Is that how
    the men do ?’ Sergeant replied ‘ Not really sir, they usually just ride the camel
    into the town where the girls are.’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is wild and a beast of a joke!

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  • Anonymous

    Bengal is funny and thrives on victimhood.

    As per the mail today report it needs 22000 crores for sevicing debt and it generates revenu of 21000 crores only. It is loath to raise taxes but keeps blaing the centre.

    it has money for starting a TV channel but will not have the strength to change the work culture…

    The TV cahnnel will continue tales of victimhood by centre… other states, global capitalism… etc etc.

    So much for the mamata’s merciless revolution….

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  • Anonymous

    Well I run for 30 mts and walk for another 30, Nice to see birds in our stadium in the morning…

    And soetimes if time permists… some cricket or yoga or tennis… sab time ki baat hai…

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  • Anonymous

    Abhishek Manu Singhvi’s sex tape was not doctored. IT WAS LAWYERED!

    http://indiawires.com/10098/featured/singhvi-sexcapade-media-as-a-protective-condom/#comment-7000

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Good comprehensive article.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting part is the same media found a Modi link in the Nityananda sex tape, as per this article.

    That is why I think the media is prsently silent and is brainstorming on how to find a modi link.

    Dont be surprised that by Monday suddenly 1000 media men jump like monsoon frogs and start shouting, ” Modi Modi… when Manu singhvi was doing it… he was moaning… Moo moo aah aah… daa daa iiiiii..
    In case we do a precis of the moan… it will sound like Modi.. !”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you are right. I can give the required fodder to the congress mills:

    Modi’ cook belongs to Darbhanga in Bihar from where Abhishek Manu Zing-vi’s driver too hails.

    And my information is that Modi gave, through his cook, Rs.1crore to the driver to prepare a genuine CD, which is now in India Today’s possession.

    Modi, Modi, half rape, half consensual sex!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautifull spin!

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    A very good analysis.
    There is another relevant item about Nityananda that w as not widely published. The root reason for going after him was his refusal to sell his property ( in a prime location in a Chennai suburb) to Karunanidhi DMK guys.. he was threatened, he reported to police, and police would not do anything, except persuade him to give the property away.. the CD came after that. My understanding is that Jayalalitha govt has now a case regarding this attempted land grab and the police inaction.

    Obviously UPA has the power to silence media so swiftly as they have shown here in the Sanghvi situation. I wish they deploy this efficiency in other matters too- like CWG stadium, army procurement, food distribution…..

    Looks like even Manu Joseph has been bought out (he was on his way to be bought out after Radia –he is no more in the poor journalist club)..

    Now my question is whether a third party can file a case about the alleged conversation about the judgeship sale now that the driver has admitted the CD is fake?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Vijay Kumar, Mohan,

    all of you will like this one:

    Abhishek Manu Zing-VI sexcapade video wasn’t shown by the media because it comes under UPA’s RAGACHY – “Rajiv Gandhi Ashleelata Chupao Yojana”!

    And the paid media followed it.

    (I hope Ashish reads this).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Even Congress leaders will like this. Thy don’t care about the yojana as long as
    it is named after any member of Gandhi family.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 one !

  • Anonymous

    Shenoy,
    I look for symbols of India at different places and don’t necessarily feel compelled to make strenous connections. I am surprised you bring repudiation here at all. A little curious – did you at all watch his YouTube clips ?

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan-

    here is the link.. Hope the guys in India can comment on this

    http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2012/0320_nitish_antholis.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gr 8 article. I think Nitish could well be a fantastic NDA PM.

    Why narendra modi and Nitish succeed is becasue they dont have to feel inferior to a dunce prince or follow norms of family sycophancy.

    Nitish still has to show us how he will get big ticket FDI in and as well as get industrial production going in a convinceing manner.

    BUT BUT,,, BUT…

    For all who scoffed against my in depth analysis against family rule…

    Nitish is far far far far better than the Lalu and Rabri dynasty whih bought down Bihar to the lowest levels of poverty….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    A very good article. Under Nitesh Kumar Bihar has see a tremendous positive
    change. My nomination for future PM will go to Modi, Jayalalitha and Nitish Kumar .
    Any of these three will be great for the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one – my parents live there. I could see the changes in the state (as mentioned in the article) when I visited them last.

    Thankfully, poeple are appreciating good work and rising above their caste to vote for him and the NDA alliance.

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  • Anonymous

    After Agni V, we have this seedy CD of Abhishek Singhvi, which has put a new ZING in the sex life of congress politicians. So he can be given the title of ZING-VI.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    great!

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  • Anonymous

    BVS

    After seeing the picture of his elegant wife, I have this feeling that she does not give “it” to him, he being so-so in looks and a bit older…….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    honestly, my heart refuses to accept that Abhishek had to seek “it” from a fellow lawyer. How did he face his wife after the CD became viral on the net? Can he honestly tell her that it was dactored or that it was lawyered? The media, being pliant, has accepted the ‘doctored’ verdict. But is his wife so gullible?

    I believe she is a sufi singer.

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  • Anonymous

    I have a theory – Sanjay is Abhishek

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well where has sanjay gone… or is he reading this and smiling?

    Would generally love to have his reaction on the CD business.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is Abhishek….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Does this means that this blog has become so famous that an important
    person from Congress could not stop himself from participating ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    This blog certainly is pretty popular. I lnow a lot of people who read it without commenting. As far as Sanjay goes I dont think he is Abhishek as he himself was surprised by the CD, the day it was released.

  • Anonymous

    Ghadha Sherni se ” Darling I love you ”
    Sherni ” Chal phut, Shakal dekhi hai ”
    Gadha ” Shakal ko maar goli, neeche dekh neeche”
    Sherni ” Oh my god, .. I love you too darling “

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  • Anonymous

    Let me shake up things a bit !! :) :) Vijay style…

    Have the Sanghis… the so called Sanghis and accused to be Sanghis, finallly won that the family worshippers and COngressis have gone into hiding and have no face to show??? :)

    C;mon guys, If you have surrenderd, your silence would be eloquont. If you have still some arguments left… raise you hand and say that you still have life.

    Or maybe is the CD shaming everyone into silence that “Iss par kya spin lagao… yahaan toh sach obvious hai…”

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  • Pankaj#1

    Shenoy sahab;
    Good one.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Gopi

    Now that we are in a generally quiter period of the blog, let me throw up an issue and get an answer from you — based not on your opinion– but in the historical context.

    The core issue of nationhood. What defines a set of people to stick together as a nation.

    Now let me expand this a bit. Take the british. Their own families are splitting wide open– with kids being born to single parents, , but they look up at their royal family as some sort of great entertaining representative of Briton. They may have ruled the world by dividing, but in the end will not be able to hold scotland or Ireland in the UK, when the percieved attraction of the British royal family goes down.

    We have seen the Soviet Union splitting from what Stalin stitched it to become. Czechs tearing theslves into pieces, Canada often shakes with French and English at loggerheads,

    Closer home many of us beleive tht the already split Paksitan will only achive peace when Baluchistan and Sindh separate.

    The US too is facing a challenge to its core values of global domination thru capitalism and God as its saviour.. Though probably because of the vary nature of the melting pot… will not face internal challenges.

    So.. let me throw up this question. What finally gets people to stick together…as a nation?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Good question.

    I do not think there is a single element or a universal element. A lot depends on experience, pain, history, values etc etc. May be we can take three countries – the oldest democracy and one of the youngest countries -USA, one of the smallest countries -Israel, and us- India.

    Americans are one of the most patriotic in the world, although may be more than 50% of its people are fairly new there, with their ancestors coming over to there in the last one or two generations. Founding fathers are revered there. Historians like David McCullough even now write about obscure days in the lives of Jefferson or Adams, it becomes a best seller, people buy it in droves. Elections are fought on the “vision of founding fathers”. Chinese Amricans, Hispanic Americans, Japanese Americans etc join the military and fight for the country.

    So, as far as USA is concerned, the root belief in the right to liberty, life, and pursuit of happiness binds people together from all over the world who migrate there. There is a belief in institutions, rule of law, work and reward, individualism and community etc. A country without much history improvises history with Washington’s story about cutting the tree, or a sleepless night Lincoln had etc..Museums and “historical places” preserve and cultivate the connections. So, the American glue is the shared sense of the constitution, the freedom that emanates from it. Young people fight and die in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan for this “freedom”.

    Israel is a different situation – for Jewsih people all over the world it is a Phoenix out of the ashes of 2nd World War, out of all the historical prejudice they say they experienced from time immemorial. So, it is a country claimed by not only Israelis, but all Jews all over the world as their ancient land God gave them. The “semitism”, “zionism” functions as a glue, rather than any constitution or any great notion about humanity or man – because if they believed in any great notion they will not be subjugating the west bank and other settlements.

    India is different from these two, I will put it in a continuum between these two.
    I will provide my theory and analysis later. But if you are worried about a scenario of undoing the nationhood, I would say it will not happen. I would further say that if at all it were to happen, the seeds were sown in the constitution by Ambedkar and co, and the seeds grew into plants (more like weeds) later by the actions and inactions of the people who came after.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Wonderful. As usual brilliant analysis. Will eagerly wait for your post on this subject
    on India, the country because of which without knowing each other we all are still glued
    together on this blog.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohanrr;
    Agree.

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan your jokes will definately hold India together and make it rock…

    Anonymous Reply:

    VIJU

    That is a brilliant observation – I second it

    Anonymous Reply:

    Great answer and a lot of food for thought. So it really is some common strand which excites people.

    US does manage to get its migrants ready to fight for it, though at times migration is subject to first enrolling for its army. Still it remains the country to have gone for most wars based on ideology— korea, vietnam, Kuwait, Afghaniztan (where it went becasue of a hit). The list is long.

    One thing obvious is the sense of excitement it creates because of its percieved values– whether liberty or whether hard cash, and the acceptance it gives to the migrant.

    Isreal has been created out of a vacuum of a historical injustice embeded in the jewish mind.

    India… well it really did become a complete nation after Patel pushed the reluctant Kings into a certain direction, otherwise many of them would have chosen a wrong path. Today corruption is also a negative factor which is common to most of india now… !

    I think we need mechanisms for continous creation of excitement for nationhood. Just a passing thought…

    Would love to continue the discussion…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    will elaborate tomorrow — going to sleep now..

  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Now you are regreating, I warned you people not to hit too hard. What is this blog without them.This peace feels like a peace in a cemetry. Ravi, Engrich, Manohar, Sanjay and Mahesh. ..Tum sab ko chhod kar aa jao, aa jao, sab kuchh chhod kar…

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    Ravi Reply:

    I am far too busy giving blow jobs from the gutter.

    It is mightily difficult to talk when one’s gob is being pounded by a phallus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Important also not to talk as somthing can be bitten of.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    No body can CONTROL no body. It is for individual to check oneself. You know, I had been there, and I understand than many people, why a particulatr language is used. it is to intimidate, and if one gets intimidated, it is one’s weakness. I can, I hope so, put people on defensive, without using derogative words. In certain situation, even I will be intimidated for a moment, but then, I will find my way around. I was not coming to blog, for excessive work myself. It is weekend, and I am comparatively free.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    He is just making excuse. The team is embarrassed about Singhvi episode and don’t want to comment on it.

    This is their old tactics..

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rajeev;
    Yaar, ab kaise samjhhaun tumhe. Please do what ever you want to do. I am not a sympathiser of present day congress or it’s grossly corrupt avatar of present. Now it has become king of financial, moral and political corruption. My congress was different. But bagair rakeebon ke jindagi main maja nahin hai. Ranjish hi sahi….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    My comment about BJ was metaphorical. He usually sucks up to the person who provides him protection on the blog.

    As far as Congress is concerned, this party should now get dissolved as per Gandhi’s wishes. It has extracted a very high price from Indian for the freedom it won under Gandhi.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    You are right here Rajeev, about dissolution of Congress, as wished by Gandhi. That visionary had seen future.
    I also know, that your reference to BJ was metaphorical. In my youth, I was quite prone to move to physical violence after verbal, hence perforce, I taught myself to remain calm, even in the presence of verbal duels. That was a mazboori and necessity to go forward in life.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I really value your advise but I am a veteran blogger who posted on Pakistani forums for years so my style has always been aggressive. However for last few years I have realized that I should worry more about Indian matters than its foreign relation. Our country is being royally screwed by Sonia Gandhi and gang.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    ‘Bagair rakeebon ke zindagi mein mazaa nahin hai.’

    Sahi kahaa aapne.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes all Congressis are very embaressed. Even Singhvi had talked about the Chaal , Charitra of the BJP when commenting about the Gujarat non porn scam. Seems God delivered a boomrang.

    For me the big story will always be, whether the position of the judge was being offered to the lady. And whether to get the position, she chose to make Singhvi “happy.”

    Of course the side issue will always be on what the senior icons of the Congress would have thought of fornification in court premises. Imagine Gandhi, nehro and Patel were all lawyers…

    Anonymous Reply:

    A very poor excuse..You have been absconding from the blog for far longer.

    You and your supporters co-ordinate your postings on this blog. When Congress is in gutter, you all go silent and come back when it is safe.

    By the way, if you don’t come back ever on this blog, I’ll certainly not miss you. Who misses a terrorist sympathizer?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Agree with you. We need all of these on this blog, so what if our views differ.
    Naarazgi chodo aur vaapas a jao.

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  • Anonymous

    Feeling sleepy now…

    Ab tumhare hawale hai yeh blog saathiyon…

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  • Anonymous

    Folks , I had decided to abandon India , after ashish posted something about NRI’s and their feeling for India. Somehow it feltlike somebody holding a mirror. It is true “Do I ever want to come back and settle in India ” , Sadly the answer is No .The reason being , we are perceived as FOREIGNERS.also having lived for so long in the west , your sensibility changes , YOU REALLY CAN’T GO WITH THE FLOW. and the wretched poverty all around becomes unbearable.The FACT IS IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING “the crabs” won’t let you.
    As far manu sanghvi’s BLOW job is concerned , IT SHOULD BE END OF CONGRESS. But the BJP’s silence is breathtaking, PERHAPS IT HAS TO CONTEND WITH THE 10YR OLD MAID RAPED AND BODY FOUND IN THE BOOT OF GADKARI’S CAR WITHIN THE PRECINCTS OF HIS HOME.
    Planning to visit barcelona.
    I will be nice , thus use the name Vijay Khanna , and remind him of his lecture ON DECADENCE OF THE WEST.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you for remebering me shan. Well mamta has been disappointing. Now do we not need sensible, scientific parties organised in a democratic manner, rather than personality cults?

    I still feel that her 3-4 years, before she collapses, represnts a window of opportunity. Free enterprisers, software guys, businesses need to zieze this opportunity to change the mindset from marx to montek. Otherwise Bengal will hurtle back to CPm and 1912

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    AshishC Reply:

    Shan,
    I think my point was misunderstood. Let me make the point again, more clearly.
    At the outset, I was an NRI once- I came back. When I was abroad, I did not make so much effort in staying in touch with “what’s happening back home” as many of you do. And, that includes you, Ravi, BinoyHegde, RajeevS, Pankaj, Mohan… in fact, even Balwinder- his interest in India is strong.
    Mohan, I would never use clever play of words to poke fun at the NRI community. In fact, true to style- I learnt all these epithets from your post :) All in fun.
    One thing stuck me when I lived abroad and socialized with fellow NRIs; most of them had very strong prescriptions:
    1. Nuke Pakistan
    2. Military is probably the only solution for the “mess that is India”
    and so on…
    I can tell you that I have never met someone like Ravi; ever abroad. Which is why, even though you would not know it from the ways I go after him on this blog, I love him. He, to me, is everything my beer drinking comrades in Lan Kwai Fong or Clark Quay were not- way more evolved, erudite and beyond 30 second soundbites of 9 pm news TV. That is not to say I agree with him; I mostly don’t.
    It takes a lot to be at peace with your identity as an Indian in UK- or USA or Singapore or HongKong for that matter. I also submit, India is changing at a pace that is difficult to imagine for folks living abroad.
    I am on a sabbatical :) from the blog- came back today, by chance and saw your post. Cheers and bye for now..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    Nice to see you back after a long time.
    Believe me you were not in my mind when I wrote those terms
    for a NRI. I used those because I have heard those many times.
    I don’t know about other NRI’s on this blog but my visits to India
    are quite frequent and I agree with you that India is changing at a
    very fast pace. Not only economically but living style and thinking
    is also changing at a very rapid speed. Please don’t take your
    sabbatical for very long and come back to this blog soon.
    I am still waiting for your views on land reforms of Bengal.
    As for Ravi is concerned, though I have never agreed with his views
    and most probably will never agree but would always love to read
    his posts as I always enjoy reading different views . I have always
    been impressed by his command on English language, I wish I
    could write in his style.

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  • Anonymous

    Folks , I had decided to abandon India , after ashish posted something about NRI’s and their feeling for India. Somehow it feltlike somebody holding a mirror. It is true “Do I ever want to come back and settle in India ” , Sadly the answer is No .The reason being , we are perceived as FOREIGNERS.also having lived for so long in the west , your sensibility changes , YOU REALLY CAN’T GO WITH THE FLOW. and the wretched poverty all around becomes unbearable.The FACT IS IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING “the crabs” won’t let you.
    As far manu sanghvi’s BLOW job is concerned , IT SHOULD BE END OF CONGRESS. But the BJP’s silence is breathtaking, PERHAPS IT HAS TO CONTEND WITH THE 10YR OLD MAID RAPED AND BODY FOUND IN THE BOOT OF GADKARI’S CAR WITHIN THE PRECINCTS OF HIS HOME.
    Planning to visit barcelona.
    I will be nice , thus use the name Vijay Khanna , and remind him of his lecture ON DECADENCE OF THE WEST.

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj & Mohan

    I appreciate your concerns and have made an appeal for all the missing members to return. However, you both are in a minority here.

    Agree, the silence can be killing for some. Ths blog has not been completely silent, as the others have made a lot of noise regaring the Abhishek Singhvi.

    Pankaj, you are wrong that most of us,if not all, have been intimidated into scooting from the blog. I can speak for myself that I have been more than a match to anything that has been thrown at me and whenever I felt like it I have returned enough knock-out punches. Too frequent punches takes away the effectiveness and the surprise element.

    AFAICR, Ravi (a ‘fake’ and ‘jehadi’ to boot) & Engrich (‘ISI trained jehadi’) have been away from the blog for quite sometime, before the CD controversy was reported. I will not speculate as to why Sanjay (a ‘congressi troll’ ) has been absent, must be busy or gone on a holiday or whatever, I do not know. With these people away for whatever reasons, I (another ‘congressi troll’ with the tag of ‘family naukar’ as an additional qualification) decided to go into a silent mode and watch the proceedings from the side for two reasons. 1) To check the state of the blog and 2) more important whether I could stay away from the blog. (Vijay & Co. need not believe me and I do not expect them to do so – they can keep attributing any motives they can imagine, who cares).

    What was the result? The absence has been attributed to the fact the ‘congressi trolls’ have been embarrassed and shamed into silence and there has been total unanimity among Vijay, Gopi and the other usual suspects on this count. Worse, they even imagined as to what the missing members were upto with the whole group having a good laugh. CTs, anyone? BTW, no such questions have been raised about Ashish, Vinoo, Shoeb and others. How can they? After all, they belong to the group and must have real noble and genuine reasons for staying away. It does not bother me, just pointing out the duplicity of the people.

    In the last 80 odd posts, about 40% of the posts have been on Abhishek Singhvi & the CD. Does it speak volumes about the lack of intelligence quotient of the ‘group’ to debate different topics and subjects? To me, it sure does. The reason is not far to seek – extreme juvenility and intelligence deficit. Was I unable to comment upon it? No, for me it was a non-issue, just as the BJP MLA’s caught with porn in their hands (those with short memories and/or selective amnesia, can go back several blogs and look).

    If the absentee members do not return or do so irregularly, then what? One side can claim total conquest of one more citadel (Vinod Sharma’s Blog, no less) with the ‘enemies’ being annihilated. The group then surely must rejoice. Peace reigns, no dissent, no disagreemnts, no alternative narratives thus making debates infructuous, add more spice to the posts and the most important no need to abuse anyone anymore. No more Modi, RSS and BJP bashing either. Talk only goody-goody about the BJP and Modi and talk only baddy-baddy about the ‘enemies’. All hunky-dory and having a good time. One more addtional ‘bonus’ – fewer number of posts making navigation easier. The most common phrase would be ‘I agree’ with lots of claps. What more can one ask?

    Having stayed away for 4 days, did I miss it and have the uncontrollable urge to hit the keyboard. I didn’t. There have been many interesting news/articles in the newspapers and on the net for the past 72 hours or so including a few re: Modi bashing, which I could have posted links to. I resisted the urge.

    To all ‘active’ members, enjoy your newly conquered kingdom for whatever it is worth.

    Pankaj and Mohan – thanks for your kind words.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Manohar. Look at your own postings about me. I kept quiet for at least 30 jibes and then gave a gentle reminder that the truth is ultimately bigger than ll of us.

    I am consistent in my opposition to terror and opposition to compromising with terror supporters.

    I am consistent in having a participative democracy and not a familycracy or a naukercy, where spin is created to justify generation after genretion of a family indirectly stating that 1.2 bllion Indians are dumb and need to be ruled by people with superior royal genes,

    I a consistent in wanting to make Congress clean, democratic and a national jewel. The Party of Dadabhai naoroji, Sardar Patel, Nehru and Gandhi. I would have the same standards for the BJP.

    I find Modi modi rape rape, now predictable, boring and the last weapon off obfuscators. If the topic id Dev anand… we hear modi modi. If the subject is mamta… it is modi modi… rape rape… A bit of a ho hum.

    I know you want to single me out for our disappearence. But look at your own jibes against me. Alone, with Ravi and Mahesh, while siding alng with Sanjay..

    You see I was a foot ball goalkeeper in school for two years. Apart from Painfull hits on the nose and the balls… being a goalkeeper teaches you to keep your post intact… :)

    I claim no personal victory on our leaving. I only say that maybe you dont have the answers. Dr Singvhi’s sex CD is so symptomatic of the Congress. Keep shoting Modi Modi… but indulge in yaun uthpeedan. Is the issue not important?

    a) Desecration of court premises.

    b) Offer of judgeship on personal favours.

    Even if there are 500 posts on it, I think we need to solve a problem and debate it out here. now you may say that blogging does not solve problems. Well in my view, ultimately we blog to find answers for ourselves, at least…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    About this Singhvi story. If this was only a sex between two adults than it
    was a non issue, a private affair between them, but if he is promising her a post of judge in return for sex than this becomes a serious national issue.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Who knows what actually happened. The audio of the link provided was not clear to me, could not even follow one word/sentence. If someone can post the actual authentic transcript, then we can talk.

    If he has got an injunction, there is no reason for the opposite sides not to appeal in a higher court of justice.

    If you must know, I have not made any comment either on Sanjeev Bhatt’s insistence of his presence in the meeting called by the Modi in 2002. Nothing has been proved one way or the other.

    If you have noticed I have hardly ever talked about things which are in the realm of speculation. At most, one can only wonder.

    Why do you all insist that I pass a comment on a topic? Are you all looking for some stamp of approval from me? Wasn’t enough (40% of the posts) was said? If I have chosen not to comment, people have already drawn conclusions about me and are gloating about it. They can be my guests. BTW, the abuse and labeling continues.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing happened. We shouldn’t ask you to defend him.

    I hope the media also uses it as a benchmark to report similar stories – injunction or otherwise.

    Waiting for your links to other happenings around the globe.

  • Anonymous

    With Sanjay gone, you must have noticed that posts are not getting deleted anymore.

    As far as Manohar is concerned, he is congress sympathizer but not in the league of Sanjay. I have always enjoyed reading his views and he has been honest enough to accept mistakes of congress unlike other two.

    He need not band himself with people like Ravi or Sanjay.

    Manohar need not be TONGUE-TIED on Singhvi.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Pankaj

    Thanks for reminding us that the Congress is not even a pale shadow of the organisation it was once.

    Let us appeal to Vinodji to use his pen and position to make the Congress a national jewel again by denouncing naukercy and corruption….

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  • Ravi

    Manohar & Ashish

    Many thanks

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are welcome.

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  • Anonymous

    Khafa Rah Kar Tum Bhi Na Rah Paoge
    Jaan To Jaegi Hamari, Saans Tum Bhi Na Le Paoge
    —————————————-

    Sapno Se Dil Lagane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
    Har Waqt Mushkurane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
    Yeh Soch Kar Ke Koyi Manane Nahi Ayega
    Abh Humain Rooth Jaane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
    ————————————————

    Now to change the mood.

    An old man was heard telling his friend

    Pehele jab woh mere baal sahlati thi to mera ‘hathyar’ khada ho jaata tha lekin
    ab woh jab mera ‘hathyar’ sahlati hai to mere baal khade ho jaate hain.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Ashish

    I think you sensed along with me and many others that Mamata was a hysterical disaster waiting to happen.

    I still feel that she represents a window fo opportunity to change the Pashchim Banga mindset from Marx to markets, before her government collapses without completing the term.

    I am sure you can set up a marketing/development centre for your software there, and push your other bong friends in Delhi to do the same. Even if you get 5 people onto the road of enterprise, it is five people less on the road to disaster.

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  • Anonymous

    Few days back we are discussing about RTE bill . Government had claimed that
    every school has to admit 25% from the poor section of the society.
    Please go through this article to understand whether government is really serious
    in helping poor children to get educated.

    http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/is-the-right-to-education-quota-really-for-the-poor/

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  • Anonymous

    NDTV has a great story on Gujarat becoming th Auto city of Asia.

    Sad that Mamta dorve Nano to Gujarat, where Puegot, Ford and other cmapnies have now followed. Ultimately we need to create industrial potential so taht India matches CHina

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  • Anonymous

    Ultimately blogs are more fress spiritied than ordinary conversations and reporting. We need to live with that….

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  • Anonymous

    NDTV also has a report that APJ Abdul Kalam may just make it again as the President. That would be great news as he represents the true face of Muslim India, a role model, a gentleman, a true nationalist. In one sense it would bring closure to the brutalisation of the Muslim mind in the UP elections by parties which wanted them to be shepherded along a path of isolation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back Pervez. So where did you disappear? I hope you stood in the elections and won… !

    yes you are right, that APJ represents the best of India.

    Sadly, scientist ABDUS Salam, a nobel prize winner represnted the best of Pakistan, yet was dishonoured in Pakistan for being a ahemdaiyaa.

    We have had a faceless Pratibha who spent 206 crores in foreign travel and is still travelling till the end of tenure. She is now grabbing land meant for housing 800 jawans in Pune, to get her own palace built.

    Now we again need a president who inspires India and not put it to despair.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    dr Kalam will be great! Children idolized him as a hero/role model. He represents what India is all about.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Maualyam was a big supporter of dr Kalam last time. Maulayam has agreed with the notion that the President should be a non-political person.

    Kalam will be the president if he and Trinamol support.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I think only kalam can tweak Mamta’s ears and tell her brutal truths

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    I understand your dilemma. There were few preemptive strikes. My commiserations.

    Thanks for letting me know that you wish me to stay on. I really appreciate it. We will see about that, it is early days.

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  • Anonymous

    Viju

    We discussed nationhood, the glue that binds etc etc , and decided to look into three democracies – US, Israel, and India. We briefly covered US and Israel; and left India for another day (..we are all blogging late into the night; I am getting old for this!)

    I will take a profound lie uttered by a British civil servant in mid 19th century and go backward and forward from then.

    John Stratchey, an eminent British civil servant, who was an acting viceroy, who served for Lord Lansdowne, Lord Mayo, Lord Lytton; in his book “India: Its Administration and Progress” (1888) stated: “This is the first and most essential thing to remember about India – that there is not and never was an India……” This was the mantra taught to the incoming officers!

    This self serving colonial narrartive suited to the British policy of divide and rule, it inanely survives, an often repeated urban myth (or by our secularists) even now is that India is a nation of British creation….

    More to follow….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Gopi. It was an immensely satisfying discussion.

    Gopi, one of the first forms of attack of the British imperialism was to demoralise the opposition. They probably wanted to equip their soldiers and civil services with the feeling that you dont have any and won’t feel any opposition when you rule India.

    Of course the statement that there was no India is contradictory as the British themselves created an East India COmpany to come here!

    More tellingly, geographical boundries probably did define a state South of the Himalayas. The warring kings fighting to rule over this entity too defined an India. The epics of Mahabharat and Ramayan too were set in this land.

    In the end the rivers, the language and finally Patel’s shepherding act… did define some nationhood.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    yes.. valid points..

    A cartographic vision on a map doesnt make a nation.. what is in the hearts and minds …

    Will elaborate

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I have maps made by the British in 1812. They have dimensional problems and give distances wel fo from todays estimation. I doubt whether Indians had maps in 1700’s

  • http://twitter.com/from_too_far ishwar jha

    Now that he has quit, let the issue rest.

    I’d miss him though as I am missing sanjaydhawan here.

    I was having trouble posting with “Disqus”. Hence posted with my twitter ID. Others facing similar issue may log out of “Disqus” and log-in with choice of IDs available.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, India has finally got into the cadre of other “advanced” countries..

    That a driver has the courage to intimidate the most powerful lawyer in the country..

    Who is he kidding???

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ MANU SIGNHVI SENT PACKING BY NETIZENS !! RESIGNS !! ~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————

    The spin did not work this time. Stories of morphing and dragging the BJP into the picture also did not work. Singhvi has had to say goodbye from all his posts.

    Byeond sex between consenting adults, the basic issues still remain

    a) the woman had wanted to become a judge. Her name was on the list. Manu Singhvi was in a position to influence

    b) Was the act performed in court premises?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This should definitely be investigated

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  • Anonymous

    Another interesting observation on the “new communist China” –

    Wen Jiaabo, PM of China is in Europe on trade promotion and to discuss European bailout.

    Kerry Brown, head of the Asia Program at the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, says about this visit – “China’s leaders don’t understand the logic of putting hard-earned Chinese money into supporting the SOCIAL WELFARE (caps mine) system of Europe”

    Mao’s China turning its back on social welfare! We are living in a wonderful time.

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  • Anonymous

    There is some problem in posting to the blog. ppup frp “cpitcha” springs up blocking entry.

    I agree. No discussion at Govt to govt level.
    The only item that the Govt should have on its plate vis-a-vis Pak is concerned is strategies for denuking that country. everything else should be considered after that, and after Pakisatn sorts out who governs Pak, who is the legitimate party who can negotiaate

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a problem posting to the blog.

    A pop up box for Captcha appears and forces you to enter something; however, even after an entry, it does not allow you to post to the blog

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  • Anonymous

    No peace with Pakistan unless they act on Mumbai terror masterminds.

    All this talk of improving relations is their ploy to ease the visa norms for Pakistanis. We also hear that Pakistan would bring FDI in our country? Seriously!!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Good Comedy on Times Now.

    All of us know there are two real issues.

    a) Quid pro quo. Offering judgeship for BJ

    b) Whether court presmises were used for fornification. Arre baba court is the temple and masjid of the people. If urges take over, how can you spol the temple ot masjid. Is it not right that you book a hotel and get over it?

    Vinod Sharma was enjoying himself and insisted that he was nuetral as he was not part of the CD.

    Where is Sanjay? Will he emerge after the Congress shame is over?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Disqus is dead… totally gone under siBBal mode of censorship as it first directws the post to a moderater.

    Better to use facebook right now…

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  • Anonymous

    MOhan

    From Times now

    Vinod mehta, Arati jerath and SIddharth nath Singh are saying exactly what I was saying. Public office cannot and be sold for sexual favours.

    Morphing wali kahaani bahut funny ban gayi hai !! If it is morphed all of us should fight for his protection from blackmail. how can we let a driver with a morphed CD blackmail a Parliamentary representative?

    Come let us protect the poor guy form blackmail and let us probe the morphing.

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  • Anonymous

    This is 267th time Pakistan has claimed that they want to resolve everything through
    peaceful dialogue. Within few days they will go back 267th time on their word.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    You are right. “their” word — Who are “they”? That has been the main issue – Who governs Pakistan?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    That is the main problem, even in Pakistan no one knows who is governing them.
    Army, Zardari, Gilani, US, Mullas or someone else.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am experiencing problems in entering my comments…

  • Anonymous

    Since the topic of Pakistan has come up, let me tell you guys the joke on Pakistan.
    Pakistanis won’t like this but kya karoon aadat se majboor hoon.

    After having 15th child a Pakistani couple decided that that was enough. The husband
    went to his doctor and told him that he and his wife don’t want any more children.
    Doctor told him that there was a procedure called vasectomy that would fix the problem
    but was very expensive. A less costly way was to go home get a large firecracker, light it
    put it in a Pepsi can, then hold the can near his ear and count to 10. Husband said
    ‘ how is this possible, do you think I am an idiot’ doctor told him ‘trust me, it will do the job’
    Man went home lit a firecracker and put it in a can. He held the can next to his ear and
    began to count with his fingers 1 2 3 4 5, at which point he paused and placed the can
    between his legs so he can continue counting on his another hand. You all can imagine what
    would have happened afterwards.
    This procedure has been approved by the Health department of Pakistan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It will help exports from sivakasi of “****’ brand (murga chaap) firecrackers !

    Long live trade

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  • Dr Mishra

    very well said Shoeb. I can tell you here from UK, the recession in Europe will last at least 5 more years. India needs must diversify its economy. Already our hosp here has junked its contract with an Indian company that did all our medical letters and bought a cheaper voice recognition system.

    I like Zardari, his 10% past and playboy character should not bother India. I cannot think of any other Pakistani leader who has genuinely pined more for peace with India

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistani’s are not trustworthy. They don’t even accept that ISI was involved in 26/11. David headley has given plot of Mumbai attack plan in so much detail that no proof is needed that Pak’s army’s serving major and ISI was involved in attack. They have not brought justice and perpetrators are roaming freely in that country. Till they don’t hand over Hafiz Saeed, Maj. Iqbal , Sajid mir, Lakhvi and Dawood and other terrorists, they can’t be trusted. No govt. agency in world kill innocent people of other country.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zain-Uddin/100002343885603 Zain Uddin

    well the question is can world and pakistani people trust India for all it’s wrong doing ,

    2007- Your Serving Army officer burnt down more then 60 pakistani in Samjotha Express train in Indian Punjab
    You guys sending sucide bombers using Afganistan lawless trerroritry with Amricans blessing

    Can any indian expalin this ………………

    1947-India violated British India Independence Act and invaded Muslim Majority sates of Kashmir which suppose to join Pakistan as per this pact
    India this illegal Act leads to 1948, 65 & 99 war

    1971—India once again violated UN Charter and interfered in Pakistan and invaded in East Pakistan which leads to 71 War and creation of B’desh.

    1984—India once again violated UNO Charter and invaded line of Control and occupied Pakistan land in Sia Chin Glacier and destroy this beautiful roof top of the world, Indian army not only dumping it’s chemical or nuclear waste but also using chemical to melt down the Glacier which is costing big time Indus River system in subcontinent, which has affected weather pattern but also agriculture land both side of boarder, Indians must accept and apologies for this environmental disaster and withdraw it’s forces before 1984 position, other wise it’ll tiger one more nuclear standoff

    India- once again violating Indus water treaty and steeling water and building dams on Pakistani rivers

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Another bigoted, Madrassa studied, denialist, history killer Pakistani. World teach another history and **** teach another. No doubt people in that country killing each other. lol. Its possible that a donkey can argue better than a Pakistani. So response to their rhetoric, repeated rant should be, looooooooooool.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Sir…the question is will Pak remain what it is today, once US leaves Afghanistan ? And also Is Kayani relevant today after Abbatabad, Bannu jial break and above all failure in North Wazirstan.

    With Haqqanis, Pak Taliban and strategic assets like Saeed Hafiz around …Pak should focus on its very existence first. India too should look at Pak through “US Exit” scenario. In that context Kayanis has no relevance.

    As far the elaborate list, date wise you have stated sorry to say you have no idea about history e.g. your Army is stealing money meant for you…check with Shah Mahmood Qureshi your ex FM, who has stated on record.

    Finaly do not copy India you cannot reach the super power that India is. And focus on “US Exit”..disucss that on your channels.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    where are the regular pak specialist bloggers? rajeev,balwinder,dr mishra?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Zain … a mistake in my earlier post, I meant your Army is stealing WATER meant for you…check with Shah Mahmood Qureshi your ex FM, who has stated on record

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zain-Uddin/100002343885603 Zain Uddin

    Well the question is can world and Pakistani people trust India for all it’s wrong doing,

    2007- Your Serving Army officer burnt down more then 60 Pakistani in Samjotha Express train in Indian Punjab
    You guys sending suicide bombers in Pakistan using Afghanistan lawless trerroritry and Americans blessing like what you’ve done with Srilanka, LTTE Suciders supported and trained by Indians has destroy this beautiful island, but Pakistan is not SriLanks you guys know that, will cost you big time this misadventure

    Can any Indian explain this………………?

    1947-India violated British India Independence Act and invaded Muslim Majority sates of Kashmir which suppose to join Pakistan as per this pact
    India this illegal Act leads to 1948, 65 & 99 war

    1971—India once again violated UN Charter and interfered in Pakistan and invaded in East Pakistan which leads to 71 War and creation of B’desh.

    1984—India once again violated UNO Charter and invaded line of Control and occupied Pakistan land in Sia Chin Glacier and destroy this beautiful roof top of the world, Indian army not only dumping it’s chemical or nuclear waste but also using chemical to melt down the Glacier which is costing big time Indus River system in subcontinent, which has affected weather pattern but also agriculture land both side of boarder, Indians must accept and apologies for this environmental disaster and withdraw it’s forces before 1984 position, other wise it’ll tiger one more nuclear standoff

    India- once again violating Indus water treaty and steeling water and building dams on Pakistani rivers

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  • Anonymous

    @Zia Uddin , Pakistan is becoming quite PERIPHERAL to india’s global view and reach.IT IS IN PAKISTAN’S INTEREST TO SEEK A RAPPROACHMENT WITH INDIA.
    Knowning how an islamic mind works , that is unlikely to happen , for it is ALWAYS JOSH(emotion) GETS THE BETTER OF HOSH(senses/rationality).
    Then PAKISTAN IS HAPPY TO BECOME A NORTH KOREA OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT

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  • Anonymous

    Guys who cares about pakistan , MORE IMPORTANT IS THE WICKEDNESS OF THE INDIAN MEDIA AS WAS APPARENT IN THE SINGHVI ******** CD.
    The STONY SILENCE is breathtaking in wickedness.
    Now the GADDAR NDTV is trying to portray, it as prying into personal lives.
    WHY SINGHVI EPISODE IS IMPORTANT
    1. This is the same guy who was lecturing BJP after the karnataka porngate scandal,
    This is a married man WHO HAS TWO BOYS AGED 27 AND 24.
    Vijay Khanna EAT YOUR WORDS ABOUT WESTERN DECADENCE.
    2. After carefully analysing the CD , few things are clear.
    THERE WAS A MIDDLEMAN(his voice can be heard)
    Manu Singhvi knew all along that the BHET(gift) was there for him to be savoured.
    HE DID NOT WASTE TIME IN IDLE CHAT , QUICKLY DROPPED HIS PANTS.
    If that CD is MORPHED , then entire gujrat riot WAS MORPHED.
    Then he goes and bribes his driver and gets him to file affadavit saying it is doctored.
    HAD IT BEEN ENGLAND THE DRIVER GOES TO JAIL FOR PERJURY and singhvi FOR BRIBING WITNESS.
    IT IS NOT A PERSONAL MATTER , IT IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY.
    If a middle aged lawyer (the name is available on the net) can get him to drop his pyjama for the sake of a judge’s post IMAGINE WHAT CHINA CAN DO , BLACKMAIL HIM TO GIVE AWAY ALL THE POLICY MAKING DECISIONS IN ADVANCE.
    In UK LORD BROWNE , THE CEO OF BP (a 100 billion company) , a jew , WAS SWIFTLY FORCED TO RESIGN WHEN IT WAS FOUND OUT HE WAS HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A 26YR OLD MALE PROSTITUTE.
    This was a relationship , and Lord Browne was gay and a batcelor.
    Yet given the SENSITIVITY and the RESPONSIBILTY the post carries , HE WAS SWIFTLY BOOTED OUT.
    PERPETUALLY COLONISED CASTE RIDDEN BACKWARD INDIAN MINDSET WHICH is manifest in the Indian media PORTRAYS SINGHVI ******** CD as just a personal affair.
    A PLEA TO MY FELLOW COUNTRYMEN , rise up above all your differences , KICK CONGRESS TO THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Much as I hate to admit… Shan you are right on this.

    I am ashamed of the Congress and our country’s judiciay for attempting to sweep this Ghahgra mein halchal scam,

    You are right that the guy could have been blackmailed by Pakistan or CHina or 2g Contractors.

    The matter must be probed and the driver checked out. In case he has been purchased, then the purchaser needs punishment.

    Unfoertunately the Hindusta times did not even carry this news in today’s paper !!!

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  • Anonymous

    MANGALAM
    I is back!!! I was just waiting to be remembered by my fan club. And there are 4 Pakistan speialists, I, Rajeev, Mishraji and Rajiiv.
    There is also allegedly a Pak resident here, goes by name of Ravi . Hehe
    I am just reading, recuvering fro stone surgery, not keen on writing

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  • Anonymous

    Zain welcome to Indian blog. I am leader here, everyone pl u be polite to him.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~~ WHY IS THE HT SILENT about the CONGRESS GHAGRA MEIN HALCHAL SCAM??????????? ~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————

    The Hindustan Times has a glorious history. And for me the paper of MK Gandhi, BG Verghese, Khushwant SIngh and our Vinod Sharma.

    Now all these guys were closely assosciated with the COngress, before disillusionment. And Shri VInod Sharma, is the guy who is still with the COngress on the extreme end. But then despite him being the total COngress defender, he still manages to get us all here– friends, opponents and even trolls like me.

    So let me ask the political editor, Shri Sharma.

    Sir, a huge huge Ghagra mein halchal scam occured where a driver was blckmailing a powerful politico. Where there were chances that judgeship was nbeing bartered for pleasure. Where we the aam aadmi of India felt that the santity of the premises of the court– our mandir and masjid– was being violated for fornification.

    In this context– when the TOI, the Indian Express, the Hindu– all gave this front page top headline– why is the HT silent??????????????????????????????????

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    Anonymous Reply:

    you reply to Zain Uddin if rajeev,drmishra not available. why r u silent ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Because Singhvi is a family friend of Bhartiyas ( owners of HT) same Marwari clan. Editors after Verghese were always political appointee by late KK Birla. KK babu as he was known to HT staff. Infact there was/is editor Dua who used to be a permanent fixture at Birla House.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Okkkkkk !! Is that the secret? I’ll ask VInod Sharma ji on behalf of us bloggers… the aam aadmi of India…

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  • Anonymous

    THIS IS HOW BJP CAN LIT A FIRE UP THE ARSE OF CONgress .
    Get somebody to file a suit against the DRIVER of ******** Singhvi, for PERJURY.
    He says it is Doctored. It is a lie. LET THE COURT APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT EXPERT TO ANALYSE THE CD. Dhudh Ka Dhudh Pani Ka Pani.
    DRAG SINGHVI INTO IT , FOR REACHING OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT OR BRIBING AND THEN SHOUTING IT IS DOCTORED.That is also PERJURY.
    THE CASE WILL GO ON FOR MONTHS , ALL THE FACTS WILL COME INTO THE FORE , the driver will sing like a CANARY, SINGHVI’S KAMA SUTRA positions in THAILAND will also have to be revealed by the DRIVER AS HE HAS PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED.
    TIME FOR CHAUTHA RITUALS FOR CONgress party.
    JAI HIND

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Post Script : It is not out of court settlement as it has been touted and that SCUM BAG kasmiri brahmin KATJU being a lawyer has swallowed it.(SHOWS THE STANDARD OF LEGAL PROFESSION)
    Out of court settlement is WHEN SINGHVI HAS HARMED THE DRIVER , here it is reverse , IT IS BRIBE PLAIN AND SIMPLE , any MORON can make that out.
    Also that “overambitious” undersatisfied Shoma mare(Shoma choudhuri of Tehelka) needs her bottom spanked. She is denigrating SOCIAL MEDIA for lack of editorial finesse. THAT IS THE VERY REASON SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE GREATEST GIFT TO MANKIND , TOTAL FREEDOM , SATYAM SHIVAM SUNDARAM

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  • Anonymous

    @ Zain

    I think your grienviences are make belive mostly.

    You guys should learn form India and stop thinking of yourself as an appendage of some mythical Arab culture.

    Your ruelrs have made you an enemy of the world. Every country from US to UK to Iran To Afghanistan to Inida to the arc till Japan does not trust you as they think you can only backstab while smiling from the face. China will only keep you asa nauker to achieve its own goals.

    I think unless Paksitan recognises its duplicity, its fake conspiracy theories, its dastardly culture of killing or converting non Muslims– it is going to be a failed state.

    You can become a good world citizen by starting a movemnt against forced conversion of Hindu girls or the killings of Christains, SIkhs and Ahemadiyyaa…

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  • Anonymous

    What message do such CDs give to the youth of India?

    The youth of India is our future. From Mumbai to Manipur and kashmir to Kanyakumari. From the wretched lands where Naxals want to mislead them saying that the rulers are corrupt and you can only get jobs by paying bribe, to the hallowed hallways of Delhi Undiversity where the young are embarking on corporate careers.

    What is the message the youth gets from such episodes? That jobs will easily go to the people willing to bribe using foul means? The villagers will wonder as the naxals entice them…

    That in our culture everything can be fixed? The young will learn this as they embark into the corporate world…

    All these are serious issues, which we must all ponder over.

    I wish Vinodji has a separate blog on the impact on the youth by such happenings.

    Sanjayji your valuable comments on how the youth are taking this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Please let this issue rest. It is inconvenient for the people on the other side of the political divide to get involved here if we keep on discussing this issue and this place is no fun without them.

    The budget session of the parliament has begun today. There are some important bills lined up and then there is presidential election scheduled for July.

    Let’s hope that the print and electronic media excercises the same restraint in similar stories in future.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I agree that we need a counterpoint.

    But the bigger issue is to take the whole thing to a logical conclusion. Till now we have been drowne3d by singular and boring cries of Modi Moid rape rape 24/7. Now such a dastardly truth is out, why should we spare the UPA since there are very huge issues involved

    a) Misuse of court premises for fornification in the land of gr8 lawyers like Gandhi, Nehru and patel— all COngressis mind you

    b) Misuse of position for offering judgeship. Can there be anything more sordid than this? The youth of India are like flowers. What is the message we send to their tender minds?

    I think all the people who support the COngress need not be ashamed as if they have done this act. They should rather ask the COngress to hold the correct enquiries to get hold of the real story.

    Sorry Ishwar. This is a battle for India. I refuse to be Prithviraj Chauahn and pardon Mohammad ghori.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Singhvi’s story apart – do you seriously believe the youth in India is not getting this message yet ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, the youth has already got the message, loud and clear.

    Abhishek Zingvi has only etched the message in stone by his shameless sex act inside the supreme court.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Uncle,
    Youth today is much smarter than your and my generation may want to think. They have internalised the message already. Singhvi episode hardly adds to their wisdom.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Such episodes make our nation and its ethics fall lower and lower. We need to punish the guilty to show that we mean business.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree with you on punishing the guilty part, not the ethics part. Reasoning being – there is already so much s**t floating around – this episode hardly adds to it. (Oh my, we are agreeing on something – feel free to distribute sweets :-) ).
    p.s. : A personal observation – you appear to be maintaining fairly long hours in the night – if you are training physically in the morning (jogging , work-out etc.) make sure you adequate sleep the night before. Chronic sleep depravation can lead to several problems.

    Anonymous Reply:

    bhai u fly kite in empty sky nicely.jai hind.

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  • Anonymous

    in a week this blog is packed with 2000 comments. one pakisthani comes, attacks indians, but bloggers here sleep or purrrr..go crack jokes, laugh he he, write poems u all poooosies.jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    More aptly you could’ve said……
    “So gaye kya Saare Nambi Pambi Hindu kahin ke….” ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MAHESH,

    you know too well namby pamby suits pseudo seculars like you and your congressi troll friend.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    So feel free to shed away your Nambi Pambi outfit and be real Trishul brandishing Hindu.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting Article on US housing bubble.
    Author makes a forceful argument tracing the cause to lowering the risks for lenders unlike several others who mostly categorised the whole affair as being consumer driven (something akin to Tulip mania).
    Read on at :
    http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/04/23/setting-the-record-straight-the-housing-bubble-lie/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Yes, a very interesting article. There must have not been much regulations in place for the system to go haywire.

    Has there been a similar bubble in the real estate sector in India? IMO, in a round-about way and may be at a lower level. It seemed some few years back that there was no tomorrow. Greed does tend to have unsatiated appetite.

    The reason is not far to seek. The lenders here (Banks) are subject to greater control by the RBI and issuing guidelines and prioritising the sectors where the funds are to be deployed. Most of the big banks being public sector helped to make them adhere.

    So there was no mob craziness to ‘buy’ all the tulips in India.

    Of course, there seemed to a be ‘fraud’ of another kind. The developers and the builders overstating (future!) value of the lands on which they wished to build castles and sell. With ‘guarantees’ in place, the banks and (public as shareholders) fell into a deep well. I do not know how much NPAs the banks have vis-a-vis real estate. The public surely seem to have suffered by fancy premiums for the slice of the cake. The promoters surely laughed all the way to their own palaces. Perhaps now we all seem to living in a more real ‘estate’ world. Correct me if I am wrong.

    There were bubbles in other sectors too during the last 15-20 years. Airlines, DotCom, Malls.

    If one eats too much greedily, one adds weight making one immobile, as simple as that.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    You are right in your analysis of the article.

    In the Indian context – banks couldn’t go overboard (in lending to consumers) because of the RBI regulations but the big developers still managed to make money out of this situation (by inflating the value of their land bank/proposed projects). Is there no regulation there?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I am not sure whether the surveyors are regulated, are bound by any code of conduct / practice and more important how stringent is the enforcement of the above, unlike the Accountants and Company Secretaries.

    Having said that there are always the black sheep among the professionals, who for a consideration would even ‘certify’ that the earth is flat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    I hope your wife and your son enjoyed their stay
    here at Dubai .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    Agree with you that some anecdotes around here do point to real estate bubble. More widely seen in Tier-2 and Tier-3 cities (Nasik, Nagpur etc). A little curious – Mumbai (especially central suburbs such as Thane , Mulund ) appears to be witnessing more transactions for “investment” purpose , is it your observation as well ?
    Just a gut feel – a sizeable chunk of the money chasing real estate appears to be black money, you see it that way too ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    There always has been the black money component in real estate business. Today, at least from the viewpoint of taxes and levies on the transactions, black money does not make sense – the taxes, levies and stamp duties are charged on the market rates in the locality (and not on the declared value in the sale documents). The Government has its own updated ready reckoner for all the areas.

    Moreover, in many honest companies like Tata Housing, and Godrej to name a few – everything is above board.

    I am not sure how many of the transactions are for investment purposes and how many for actual use.

    The bubble I was referring to is more applicable to the very high end of the market. Now everybody is not a King(fisher) of Good Times to spread his money (own or borrowed) on dream homes, which you may use for 12 hours in a year.
    Even the house to beat all other houses – the Antilla do not have a permanent residents. The Ambanis have been told that it is inauspicious – vastu shastra and/or feng shui are the culprits.

    Regarding Thane and Mulund, I believe they offer a double benefit – affordability and yet being part of the glamorous city of Bombay. With more and more offices moving away (blame it on the computerisation/Internet and travel woes in super-dense crush load in locals and buses) from SoBo (South Bombay for uninitiated) to BKC, Vashi, Belapur, Thane, etc. – the attraction of main city has dwindled. The SoBo would probably be home to banking and financial services sectors only – where they ought to be. Even Hindustan Unilever have moved to Andheri, so have many others. In most cases, the back offices of many companies have moved away, even to other cities. The balance sheet will not look prettier if it is prepared sitting in an office costing Rs 40000+ per sq.ft. On the contrary, it will make a dent.

  • Anonymous

    Mahesh,

    I am posting the reply here because I am unable to do it against your post.
    I did not see anything new in this article. This was evident from Aug-Sep 2008
    when the crises started. Banks in US lend money to the people to buy homes
    knowing very well that they do not have enough income to repay. These loans
    were then packaged, re packaged, re- re packaged and were sold to other banks,
    Investment house and hedge funds. No body in these entities did their due diligence
    or if they did, they chose to ignore the paying capacity of the original borrower.
    Things were running smoothly as long as everyone was holding these loans in their books.
    When one such entity decided to call back their loan, all the hell broke loose and that is
    when the real problem came out in open.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely right.

    I find it strange that this article appeared yesterday – these facts have been far too well known to those who cared since much longer. Even a kid with no finance background could see through all of this.

    Thankfully, we had the RBI as the regulator in India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Which browser do you use?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I was at home at that time and was using Safari on IPad . Now here in office I am using internet explorer which seems to work
    fine.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For desktops, the best browser on the market is

    FireFox (current version 12) – Freeware.

    Here is the download link page. Scroll down your operating system and language and download.

    http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    With the Sub-prime crisis the larger part of narrative has looked at the problem starting from the housing side. The author here argues – it started other way round. With the securitisation of loans – the lenders themselves were freed off the lending risks. This large amount of lending in turn found its way inside the housing market (Notice how the Countrywide’s whistleblower anecdote fits nicely in this model). So, in a sense it was debt heating the housing market. But again, I tend to agree with you somewhat that this point of view is not entirely fresh. Just that it has been much less prevalent.

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  • Anonymous

    Has Congress realized their mistakes after the recent debacle in elections and Singvi
    episode?. Sajan Kumar was named by CBI in 1984 riots and now four senior congress
    leaders , Jairam Ramesh, Ghulam Azad, Salman Khudsheed and Valayar Ravi have
    offered to go back to party works.
    ,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Apparently so, whether they will benefit from the changes they make is be seen. The only point to note is that they have woken up to the reality and something needs to be done.

    There is 50% risk involved – it works or it does not. Seemingly, the status quo and current state of affairs almost has 100% chance of failure.

    Look at it in another way. When one is sinking, no harm changing into Sunday’s best – at least they will look good and would make a pretty picture.

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  • Anonymous

    there is a problem in posting to the blog.I m not able to

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Login first using the hyperlinked “Login” text above the top Comment Text box, and then post the comments. That works fine.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    use the INTERNET EXPLORER BROWSER.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    There is no internet explorer in IPAD, any idea which should
    use ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    my knowledge of browsers is confined to google chrome and IE. While I find chrome immensely useful and advanced, this “daaru glass’ problem can be got over by using IE.

  • Anonymous

    THIS ONE IS SPECIALLY FOR MANGALAM JAYA MANGALAM:

    Abhishek Singhvi created history by his sex episode
    But the media was, understandably, in the silent mode
    because they were sworn to the Omerta code
    by his party, which threw freedom of speech into the commode

    yet, on the internet, this CD went viral
    jokes and criticisms began to spiral
    Just when the party was looking for revival
    it got struck by disaster’s arrival.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    a **** comes to the blog, shoves a big bamboo in ….. but see this poosie still half sleeping,rolling in bed and singing .missing rajeev, mishra.jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mangala,

    the intruding Pakistanis can be taken care of even by an unwell Balwinder from his sick bed.

    As you can see, we have the earth shaking, hip swinging,lip smacking seedy CD to discuss, particularly its ramifications on India’s international standing and prestige..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hardly a comfort for Mangalam. You could do better , right ?
    Did you miss your RSS shakha ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    my coment deleted???

    a **** came, danced in our courtyard.our inteligent bloggers half sleeping and wrting nursry rimes.jai hind.

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  • Anonymous

    @Zain

    bhai come next month. now ppl r busy. one has loose motion, another flying kite, another writing nursry rimes, two r missing. i m nt educated to answer u. we ve 60 comments but no answer 4 u.rajeev,drmishra?where r u?jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you always so humourous?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Who is flying kite ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    bhai vijay.big talking no jawab to ****.happy flying big kite in empty sky alone.jaihind.

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  • Anonymous

    for all the guys experiencing disqus menopause… try to ride in thru Mozilla Firefox.

    Gopi, make mozilla ur emergency browser which wil gatecrash where Explorer fails.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    It would be a huge thing in case Sajjan Kumar is hauled to the gallows. In my opinion he should be hanged next to kasab,

    After 1984, the Congress gave election tickets to four major rioters from Delhi– Sajjan, Dhram Dass Shastrim HKL Bhagat… and Tytler (whom frankly I am not sure whether he took part in rioting)

    I have had the sordid experience of staying in a colony where Sajjan’s daughter stays.

    “Hum ne dilli par hukamat ki haii…” She boasts. Even today if her wild alsation bites the neighbour or the chowkidar or any kid, the police comes at her beck and call and sides with her.

    I suspect Sajjan’s hauling up is Manmohan Singh sneaking in his own wish, with Sonia and RG weak for the moment.

    “If Papa is touched… sab top se top Congress leader ka pitara khul jayega, ” Sajjan’s rottweiller daughter would boast.

    I suspect, in the end, the dynasty loyalists will ensure, Sajjan dies a natural death after 20 more years of a good life, outside, with his Z catefory state paid security.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay,

    It is high time that all those involved in riots shoud be punished severely.

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  • Anonymous

    Tennis and beer and sleep… !

    But Mohan

    I think an easier way for the Congress to reform and improve is simply to ask Rahul G and Digivjay to resing and then leave the organisation to MMS. Rahul’s going may even tempt a 100 million Indians think of the COngress again. After all the new generation cannot identify with dynasty and all those old propoganda stories…

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  • Anonymous

    In one of the previous blogs, it was reported that the Supreme Court had slapped a fine of Rs 25 lacs on Gujarat Government for seizing a transhipment of meat.

    Here is a new link.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-slaps-Rs-25-lakh-fine-on-Gujarat-government-for-seizing-buffalo-meat/articleshow/12854683.cms

    A bench of justices Altamas Kabir and S S Nijjar ordered animal right activist Rajesh Hastimal Shah and the Gujarat government to pay Rs 25 lakh each as fine to Royal Exports, which had claimed a loss of over Rs one crore due to the seizure.

    ———-
    This is an old tale. However, the interesting part are the comments to the above news item. Sample these

    1) All Hindus from Kerala eat beef.

    2) If cow is your mataji, why is she roaming naked shamelessly on the streets? Why don’t you put on a khakhi or saffron chaddi on cow-mataji? Naked mata worshiper!

    3) It is not sacrilege to Hindus, it is sacrilege to Hindutva. There is a difference, you know.

    4) Cow is holy to Hindus so any attempt to harm the cows in Hindustan is illegal. Period. If you don’t understand this simple sentence you are not worthy of being a Hindustani.

    Response.

    agreed to u r point sunil but think of those farmers who sell them to make their living their are Hindus , best example is u r state Karnataka with BJP ruling party still they lost the case of to farmers and Karnataka is the biggest state of cow slaughtering ..

    5) Who(*) told you leather is “cultivated” from dead animals?
    come to Chennai & see. one of the biggest companies exporting leather buys cow hide(skins) from slaughtered cows as this is supposed to give a better finish. this company is owned and operated by brahmins!

    * Any guesses?

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    very important to punish the rioters dispassionately. In Sajjan Kumar’s case he was personally instigating mobs and delvering hate speeches and even lighting the fires where people were trapped.

    So was Dharam Dass Shastru, a senior Congress leader.

    I would not indict Tytler of Kamal nath as nobody gave any serious proof of them having delvered public hate speeches for revenge.

    On Rajiv Gandhi– I have mixed feelings. Yes, he failed as a new PM to come on TV to appeal to the people. But did he actually ask people to go ahead and take revenge. I doubt so.

    maximum he could be blamed for is the utterly thoughtless 1984 election campaign showing Sikh auto drivers as aliens. For failing as PM to control rioting. For making dumb, hirtful speeches justifying the violence.

    I have seen two three riots from close. Ordinary people become minorities who feel that they need to gang up together. A fitting punishment to Sajjan Kumar, ( a ground level rioter) will send the message.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    Thanks for your suggestion about the browser to use. Well U r a computer guy as well as a civil engineer as well as an employer giving life to many…Keep it up.

    Vinod chose the subject of Kayani so that we bloggers will ignore Sanghvi tape..Not so fast!

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you gopi. Your kind words would make me smile as I I move from site to site.

    I think you are right that the Congress is only too happy to sweep the Singhvi scam under the carpet. The third dimension which got india today interested… appointemnt of judges thru sexual favours would have sent the Congress humpty dumpty packing in such a manner that it would have been impossible to put together the pieces, even by a million repeats of Modi Modi.

    Tehelka, NDTV and HT have been the most silent.

    Comapre this with the fake scam of bangau Laxman, where Rs 50,000 was given jabardasti… and all the three media houses did Kathakali…

    Very funny country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    it was very funny watching the Tehelka show girl, Shoma something vaxing eloquent on freedom of expression on C NN-IBN. I liked Chetan Bhagat’s quip to the new crusader for right-to-privacy, retd.justice Katju, “if you cannot have censorship of the internet, you still have the option to switch off the lights when “doing it”.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thelka’s fake scam needs poster girls like shoma.

    Sad that we have become a republic of lies under Congress

  • Anonymous

    Why does a boy asks for girl’s hand?
    Because he gets tired of using his own hand.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Most dangerous qualities of wives.

    They listen half, understand quarter, think zero, react double and remember forever.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Therefore, here is a way out for all those poor, harassed, frazzled and ensnared and entrapped husbands who have wives with dangerous qualities and long memories.

    Husbands should first fumble, then grumble a little, then tremblingly mumble only half the truth and and finally look at her as

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are really good.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Hats off to you.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Again for all bloggeers in Disqus censorship problems. Use facebook and then use Mozilla firefox as browsser.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay,

    Will this facebook and Mizola firefox work on iPad?

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    hould work, Though I now feel that the censor will read this and plug that road also.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    Thanks

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    FireFox probably does not work in iPad
    However for Internet Explorer, check this subscription based service.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Thanks will try.

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  • Anonymous

    According to Salman Khursheed, sex in court is a private affair while watching porn
    in parliament is not .

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Salman khursheed should be the stand up “TRAGEDIAN” of the Congress !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, you are right. These days, merely looking at Salman’s teray eyes makes us weep. But, Mani Sankat Aiyar is going great guns.

    Therefore, we may nominate him for hte award of stand up comedian of the congress party.

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  • Anonymous

    Already three days into this new blog and only 90 responses, mostly from the die-hard fans of Vinod Sharma.

    It looks like Sibal has advised him to cut down on the anti type of bakwas and encourage only the faithfuls and inveterate naukars and chakars of the family.

    Friends and fellow bloggers, now is the time to pray for the safe return of Sanjay proxy Dhawan, who was at least willing to hear our tales of trouble with the censor, even if he did nothing to stop himself from censoring inconvenient posts.

    DEAR SANJAY, WHERE ARE YOU? HUM SAB DUKHI HAIN, HUM HAMARI GALATIYAN SWEEKAR KARTE HAIN, PLEASE, PLEASE RETURN.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    bVS

    I believe many faced the Disqus problems–Google chrom doesnt let entry. That is the reason why so few comments

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinodji has driven me back to Internet Explorer, which I had discarded in favour of Google Chrome.

    Who is there to advise Agent Vinod?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So few responses, because Vijay, you and Rajeev are not very active.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Dev

    Got to balance dal roti with blogging…but still manage to type in a bit…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    Rajeev indeed is to be blamed along with SHoeb, Parvez, Gopi, Vinoo, and Dr.Mishra..

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  • Anonymous

    I logged out and logged in and now it has started working perfectly.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    This is crazy !! full censorship… becasue Singvi]s act needs to be hidden !

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  • Anonymous

    Who is flying kite ?

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  • Anonymous

    Mahesh/Manohar,

    Yesterday you both were talking about black money in real estate market.
    This menace is prevalent all over India only the percentage differ in
    different cities/towns and even on the type of property. From my experience what I have seen is that percentage of black money in commercial property is more then in residential property in Bombay. Even the stamp duty calculated on residential property is almost at the actual market price while on commercial property it is much less.
    In small towns the proportion of black is much higher which can be as high as
    90% of the total value of the property in some cases.

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  • Anonymous

    Whre r rajeev,drmishra?no time when need.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar,

    Singhvi got his ‘deep throat’ in court and now even BJP has got their deep
    throat. It seems everyone wants a blowjob. Just now heard a news that
    S & P a rating agency has downgraded outlook of India to negative.
    Foreign investment may reduce and international borrowing cost of India
    will also increase. I hope that all the political parties will bury their differences
    for some time and will at least start working.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    S&P downgrading India rating should be cause for some concern, as foreign investors and collaborations would take a hit.

    It is all thanks to the little games our political parties are playing to score brownie points against each other – country’s progress and development be damned. These parties are not going to bury their differences. We do not need enemies.

    That is why I keep hoping that general elections be held soonest to get out of this policy paralysis.

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  • Anonymous

    It has to be taken seriously. But it probably won’t. The only government whaich has and is taking action on this is the MP government and being BJP, is often hounded by our Congress press for this.

    While individuals of all religions now more or less understand the imporance of population control., unfortunatley there is a lot of religious opposition to the family planning program. The premise religous leaders have taken is creating more numbersgets majorites and more followers.

    In the end the faint hope is now women empowerment and educating the woman enough to make her realise that carrying extra children wrecks her health and spoils their chances of good education.

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar,

    Thanks, will let you know whenever I plan
    to visit Delhi.

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  • Anonymous

    The Indian Express carries a full interview by Chitra Subramanium of the Swedish police Chief.

    One thing striking is that despite the noise–THEE WAS NO serious effort even to contact him !

    wAH JI waH!! mAIN SUTRADHAAR was forgotten by our longwinded Bofors investigation teams.

    He also says that there was a concetrated effort to make sure Quotrochchi went UNTOUCHED!!

    Wah re COngress !! Kya honesty hai….

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  • Anonymous

    Mangalam, pl u dont get worked about Mr Zain. If no one is answering him, maybe they are busy. I have email of Rajiiiv and Dr Mishraji, I will write to them. I am getting too old for these cyber arguments.
    Why dont you copy paste what Rajiiv and Mishraji said before..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinder,

    What Zain had written was a rubbish propaganda of Pakistan which did not
    deserve any reply. Aap aram keejiye.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    all big talking poosies hide under bed when time demand.now know all worth.

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  • Anonymous

    About two days ago, there was a news item that the sperm count in men is decreasing fast. Soon, men may not produce, even when they would do everything else.

    Therefore, if there is a nuclear winter or a nuclear famine, there will definitely be a couple of billions less to crowd the world as we know it.

    All in all, a bright prospect for SAVING THE EARTH..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Men may not produce but never underestimate women,
    they are very innovative and most probably they will
    find some other way of producing children.
    Then their slogan will be ” Who cares about men “.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan,

    in Mumbai, there is a very popular expression, ‘dariya mein gus gus’.
    ek, do ya zyada, sub dariya mein gus gus..

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ Saanson ki zaroorat hai jaise
    Zindagi ke liye

    ~~~ Congress ko spin chahiye
    Aashigui ke liye ~~~
    ————————————————————————————————————

    QUOTING NDTV ON THE MASSIVE COVERUP BY THE CONGRESS on the Bofors kickbacks !!! :)

    Ab yeh NDTV ki news hai… koi Tarun Vijay ki nahi…. :) :)
    ————————————————————-

    Nearly 25 years after the Bofors scam rocked both India and Sweden, Mr Lindstrom has confirmed that he is the Swedish whistleblower who leaked over 350 documents to Indian journalist Chitra Subramanian, who was the first to break the story. He has also admitted that he was the journalist’s secret informant who operated under the pseudonym of ‘Swedish Deep Throat.’ Mr Lindstrom led the investigations into the Bofors-India gun deal.

    The Bofors case dates back to 1986, when Swiss arms manufacturer Bofors landed a 15 billion dollar contract to supply Howitzer guns to India. A year later, Swiss media began reporting that the company had paid massive kickbacks to Indian politicians and defence officials. Reacting to the reports, then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had assured Parliament that that was not the case. The Bofors scandal however cost him the general election in 1989.
    While asserting that there was no evidence of kickbacks to Mr Gandhi, Mr Lindstrom talks about Italian businessman Ottavio Quattrocchi, who was believed to be one of the major players in the Bofors scam. He said the evidence against Mr Quattrocchi was “conclusive” as the bribes paid by Bofors landed in his account. “Nobody in Sweden or Switzerland was allowed to interrogate him,” he added. He also suggests that this was orchestrated because of Mr Quattrocchi’s closeness to Mr Gandhi.

    In 1990, when the BJP-led NDA was in power, the CBI filed a complaint against Mr Quattrocchi in the case. The charges against him included serving as a conduit for bribes. Others named in the CBI case included Win Chadha, who was Bofors’ representative in India. Mr Chadha died in 2001.

    Mr Quattrocchi left India in 1993 to avoid being arrested. In March 2011, a Delhi court allowed the CBI to close its criminal case against him after the investigating agency submitted that after 25 years and Rs. 250 crores, it had not been able to get Mr Quattrocchi extradited to India, despite appeals in both Malaysia and Argentina.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    “Nobody in Sweden or Switzerland was allowed to interrogate him,” he added. He also suggests that this was orchestrated because of Mr Quattrocchi’s closeness to Mr Gandhi.”

    I doubt Quattrocchi was even friendly with Rajiv. He was, however, very very close to Sonia Gandhi. He had in fact, free access to the PM’s house. The Gandhi family holidayed with the Quattrocchis in the Andamans too.

    Therefore, there is a strong necessity to take a close re-look at Sonia Gandhi’s role in the whole affair., ,,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think we all know the truth now.

    Let us wait for COngress spin and jhoot to cover it up :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I once met Q when I was auditing his accounts in Delhi ( I am ACA with the BIG 4) Q is/was a very very powerful man those days. even today he is still “connected’ with Senora r…who do you think transfers/manages “her”: cash and chartered flights to Europe. Our ‘Lady- senora ” stil has roots in europe and doesn’t trust native indians, Ciao!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sapra

    W want more!! More insider news. Hopefully Vinodji will now change his trust of the COngress….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sapra,

    I love you yaar!

    Yes, there is a great deal of truth and reality in what you said.

    Vinoo is our official CA for this blog. My fellow bloggers and I would feel honoured if you add your valauble opinions here more often.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sapra,

    You are living in Delhi and you are talking about ‘first family’ of India.
    Bhai mere Zara bachke rehna.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    The account of Q which was frozen in UK was defrozen on the instructions from
    Indian government for few days which allowed Q to withdraw all the money.
    Mainstream media did not pursue this at all.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Everyting was fixed. Spin of all type was created. VP SIngh was denounced as an anti-national; the St kitts fraud was created; even AMitabh Bachchan was dragged into it.

    Quotrochchi was allowed to fly to freedom.

    What a fraud !! Wah re Congress !!

    If Rahul wants our respect, he should help India get back the money from the account of Mr Q… and his partners…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    nothing connected with Quattrocchi can be frozen, when his friendship with Sonia Gandhi is warm.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijaybhai fly kite.big small red yellow.be happy.big fun flying kite in empty sky. u r kite flying king.no comptetion.jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mangala, Zain, this one is specially for both of you.

    I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc., I called the Suicide Lifeline. I got a call center in Pakistan , and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy and Mohan should do a standup comedy!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Wow. Absolutely fantastic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 joke!!

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  • Anonymous

    The country would have been so far better off if Congress has shown the same efficiency and efficacy they deployed in the Sanghvi CD suppression.

    Where does this leave the “judgeship for BJ” part ? What is the legal path to pursue this?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    No goal will be pursued. Take my word for it. That is why we as voters should have only two goals

    a) To restore the COngress to a national jewel and resue it from dalals and dahlas.

    b) To get over family worship and naukercy and become a democracy,.

    I have been consistent in chasing these two goals and have I think managed to sow the seed of the idea in many people.

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  • Anonymous

    Engrich

    I want to reverse brainwash you. Do you think Osama is the greatest or Hafeez Saeed is greater?

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    Sapra/BVS

    Isnt the Wardha boy connected with Qutrochi? I read somewhere he was instrumental in connecting Priyanka and Wardha boy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I mean Vadra – Robert-

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    we all know your word play. Wardha becomes Vadra, who becomes Robberji, who………

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  • Anonymous

    Shenoy u drive **** truck with no axles

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  • Anonymous

    MORE “GOOD” NEWS FROM ITALY !!

    India paid 350 crorers as commission to a dalal for buying 12 helicopters for 3500 crores from Italy as per Italian media reports.

    Wah !! Wah !! It is raining good news from all directions for the COngress !

    read

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/controversy-over-sale-of-12-italian-vvip-choppers-to-india-202232?pfrom=home-topstories

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One helicopter for about Rs 300 crores. Were these made of gold.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some special aircraft meant ofr VVIP transportation !!

    If BJP cant win it from here…. they have to be superdumb!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Or maybe Singhvi ordered these helicopters with bedroom and all such facilities.
    It is not really comfortable in court.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The rocking of the copters would help…

    Anonymous Reply:

    The rocking of the copters would help…

    Anonymous Reply:

    No, they were all fibre glass and steel, but they made a lot of gold for a few chosen persons.

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  • Anonymous

    one good news.. big drop in measles death in India

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/25/measles-deaths-drop-in-india/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    A good news indeed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx benoy…

    Always gr8 to read the perspective from the other end of th globe…

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  • Anonymous

    Mangalam

    Are you a long lost friend wearing different glasses :)

    Who has special love for Rajeev, Balwinder, Shenoy, me, Rajiiv and Dr Mishra? :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I was also wondering ….
    .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ MOhan

    Why did an elephant wear dark glasses?

    becasue he wanted to disguise himself !!! :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Good one.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a she. Now you will NOT bring your dirty jokes which we all love.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    all 3 poooosies.jaihind

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    May be nature will find a way to correct the balance or may be it is a disaster (on account of population increase) waiting to happen as part of the script written by Gods or whoever.

    Certainly not by a nuclear holocaust. The effects would be felt for centuries right across the globe and that is not a good thing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Yes we don’t know the script of God.
    Man plans God laughs.

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  • Anonymous

    ~~~ AFTER THE SINGHVI BJ ~~~ A DOUBLE WHAMMY FOR THE CONGRESS~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    @ Vinod Sharma

    Sir,

    Today the COngress got a double whammy even when it still had to recover from the sex for favours tape.

    a) The retired Swedish Police Chief revealed that Shir Rajiv Gandhis close chum Mr Quotrochchi was intimately involved in the Bofors kickbacks

    b) The Italian media is ringing with stories of a dahla making 350 crores in purchases of Helicopters , purchased at 300 crores a piece from Italy.

    Mohan our resident joker who spikes in sarcastic bullets in his jokes wonders whether these copters were made of gold. For me the 350 crore dalali means food and schooling for 3.5 lakh children in a naxal hit district for an year.

    We the bloggers at your site have a request. That please dont defend this gross abuse of position and power. PLEASE help us make the Congress a national jewel, which Dadabhai Naoraji, Gandhi, Sardar Patel wanted. Please let us move away from family worship, nauker style…

    You may throw our request in the dustbin.

    But remember, when we all meet up there 50 years from now on… If you agree to our request…the benefits u will get

    Then Shenoy would recite all his poetry to you…
    Mohan will give you unbeatable jokes….
    Gopi will link ouir presence in hell/heaven to what scriptures said…
    I would always be there to annoy everyone that God is making us a nauker…

    And of course if u disagree to our request…

    You will end up with Engrich ofr company… with abillion conspiracy theories for the next billion years !!

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  • Anonymous

    ~~~ AFTER THE SINGHVI BJ ~~~ A DOUBLE WHAMMY FOR THE CONGRESS~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    @ Vinod Sharma

    Sir,

    Today the COngress got a double whammy even when it still had to recover from the sex for favours tape.

    a) The retired Swedish Police Chief revealed that Shir Rajiv Gandhis close chum Mr Quotrochchi was intimately involved in the Bofors kickbacks

    b) The Italian media is ringing with stories of a dahla making 350 crores in purchases of Helicopters , purchased at 300 crores a piece from Italy.

    Mohan our resident joker who spikes in sarcastic bullets in his jokes wonders whether these copters were made of gold. For me the 350 crore dalali means food and schooling for 3.5 lakh children in a naxal hit district for an year.

    We the bloggers at your site have a request. That please dont defend this gross abuse of position and power. PLEASE help us make the Congress a national jewel, which Dadabhai Naoraji, Gandhi, Sardar Patel wanted. Please let us move away from family worship, nauker style…

    You may throw our request in the dustbin.

    But remember, when we all meet up there 50 years from now on… If you agree to our request…the benefits u will get

    Then Shenoy would recite all his poetry to you…
    Mohan will give you unbeatable jokes….
    Gopi will link ouir presence in hell/heaven to what scriptures said…
    I would always be there to annoy everyone that God is making us a nauker…

    And of course if u disagree to our request…

    You will end up with Engrich ofr company… with abillion conspiracy theories for the next billion years !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    I really admire your passion for the revival of the near moribund congress party, which, you rightly call a national treasure. I also liked your invoking the names of the great men who once presided over the party, which today has an Italian lady, who doesn’t know India, its social mores, its culture, its languages and more than anything, its people. Who cannot speak even a few sentences well. Who always loves to stay behind closed doors and locked gates.

    Millions of Indians hold the party in great awe, respect and bhakti. Unfortunately, the congressmen themselves do not know or don’t believe in the ideology of their party, because of which they are prepared to join hands with terrorists, spies and anti-nation forces.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you shenoy

    Mine is a genune cr to make COngress the organisation of gentle, patriots and not of naukers and t3error saluters.

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  • Anonymous

    Some Rajnikant jokes.

    When Rajnikant was a student, teachers used to bunk the classes.

    If Rajnikant works in BPO, clients would work in shifts.

    One day Rajnikant decided to play cricket in monsoon, and rain stopped due to play.

    Once upon a time Rajnikant used tooth powder to gt strong teeth. Today that
    powder is known as Ambuja cement.

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  • Anonymous

    Some Rajnikant jokes.

    When Rajnikant was a student, teachers used to bunk the classes.

    If Rajnikant works in BPO, clients would work in shifts.

    One day Rajnikant decided to play cricket in monsoon, and rain stopped due to play.

    Once upon a time Rajnikant used tooth powder to gt strong teeth. Today that
    powder is known as Ambuja cement.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan
    Regarding your note on downgrading India’s credit rating due to debt levels, financial outlook, …
    -
    While the S/P is a rating of the financial debt and other related items, who will rate India on all other debt we are accumulating?
    With revelations of Sanghvi promising judgeship in return for a BJ, the new Qutrochi revelation, Adarsh, scores of mining exploitation, farmers and their children still dying in Mahaarshtra, Usha Devi giving birth in front of a hospital and dying in childbirth… Our debt extends far beyond the domain of money, into the realms of psychology, morality, religion and culture.

    “we owe god a death”, says Feeble in “Henry IV, Part 2″, and in the meantime what
    we owe ourselves, our friends, our children, and our country and the larger community is beyond counting.

    The financial debt/monetary situation is only one rating; we will rank quite low in the overall rating if we include all debts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I understand your frustration and feel your sadness looking at the current
    affairs of our country. It is the hunger for money which leads to most of
    the problems we are facing. Adarsh, CWG, 2G, , Qutrochi, mining
    exploitation, farmers suicides and many others issues like these. Money
    is the main cause of all these problems. Money is not evil, making money is
    not wrong but making money through dubious means and by exploitation
    is totally wrong. It has become very easy to make money by wrong means
    and get way with that. Today morning I was reading a news of the police
    officer from Chandigarh who was sentenced for six years for molesting 14
    years old Ruchika who latter had committed suicide. Rathore almost destroyed the whole family of this young girl. This man owns a Mercedes and
    his wife recently paid Rs. 9 lakhs for the number plate for this car. Something
    seriously and urgently is required where such culprits are caught and punished. If I am not mistaken this man did not even spent six months in jail.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If I am not mistaken Rathore bought that special car registration number (worth 9 lakh) for his wife as a grand gesture for standing by him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now Abhishek Zingvi too will gift his wife a Ferrari for the same reason!

    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    How come our news media and political leaders do not question how a government official can buy a mercedez, how can he buy a license plate for 9 lakh etc?

    It is a shame taht he got away with murder; that he gets away with these corruption…

    I will not have an issue if maoisst kidnap and kill the guy..but tehy leave these guys alone!

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  • Anonymous

    Maoist problem:

    I request Vinod Sharma to write more on the Maoist problem that the country is facing today. I also request the bloggers find time for this major issue. I am afraid if we do not address this issue immediately, then we may end up creating a version of “Indian Taliban” , though not in terms of ideology of Pak Taliban, but the internal unrest and anti-establishment movement could be as fierce. Many small towns have already been victim of this problem. It’s just matter of time before we felt the heat nearer home. More than 70% of states have already been hit by the Maoist problem. How long should we wait before we address this issue seriously ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    PDP in kashmir, TMC in WB. Double face.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    there is a huge, huge difference between Maoists and Taliban. The difference is Islam. Maoists have no religion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sorry to say, you are missed the point. Both of them have a purpose. Religion or Societal problems are just the starting points. Once a problem takes off, it becomes formless. The problem just becomes acute. When a disease becomes life threatening, it does not matter what disease it is, one just falls prey to it. Both Maoist and Talibans are recruiting people who have been neglected by the society and have been marginalised for long. They don’t work so much for money as much with the purpose of hitting at the establishment. These things have a viral effect – they grow much faster than a Rajanikant joke on the internet. So it’s religion or not, we are all going to be hit. A cyclone, for academic purpose, can be termed as “Katrina” or “super cyclone”; but it destroys either way. The victim does not remember what hit him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “I am sorry to say, you are missed the point”.

    He always misses. Nothing new.

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS/Dev dutt

    Marxists/Communist ideologues have killed more people in the world than Islamic fundos – of course Marxists have been accelerating their conversion to Capitalists everywhere else except in our hinterlands.

    One will not find a Maoist in Mao land!

    This has to be dealt with through force and action – first and foremost, the money allocated for their welfare has to be spent on them– I m sure 99% of the money now is eaten by politicos and bureaucrats.

    I am for them kidnapping corrupt officlas and ministers – but it looks like that the MLA they kidnapped is a good guy committed to progress (per Ashish) and the young IAS guy also a committed guy — so it looks like Maoists have their own agenda.. Force should be dispensed appropriately, targeted at their leaders hiding in the forests.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How come MAMATA has solved JANGALMAHAL/MAOIST problem in WEST BENGAL. And Maoist have surrendered in droves

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  • Anonymous

    It is ridiculous to compare Maoists with Talibans.

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  • Anonymous

    It is ridiculous to compare Maoists with Talibans.

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  • Anonymous

    99% Maoists are committed people.

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi,

    A good starting point – Check how many states have been affected by this problem. Then we will understand the seriousness of this problem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What if Maoists drop their militarism and focus mostly on political propoganda ? Will it still be Taliban by your definition ?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    SANJAYJI !!!!!

    The truth about Bofors is out. Qoutrochchi who is close to the gandhi parivar recieved kickbacks. Now you may ask on behalf of whom. Well you have to be innocent to ask that question.

    Further on since you thought Vajpayee in 1999 was somehow responsible for letting of the culprits of Bofors (kickbacks taken in 1986) , you may see Times Now where Chitra Xubramanium is detailing how the COngress governments tried to obfuscate and create fiction and then divert the attention to Amitabh Bachchan !!

    Very funny !! Looks like a JOhny lever Golmaal type thinking!!

    That is why I say let us rescue the COngress from naukercy and corruption and make it a national treasure ….

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay Kumar,

    How sad that Chitra never spoke about Amitabh’s innocence all these years ! She could have been a star witness in Bacchan’s case in London.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Yes I feel sad for Amitabh

    Sonia could have spoken and said that all the kickbacks were taken by Quotrochchi and Amitabh is innocent. I think real freindship is rescuing friends… not getting them into trouble on false charges.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    One must learn the value of dignity from Amitabh. Chitra’s analysis is devoid of depth – just an after thought. She never had a mind of her own I guess. She just played to the gallery with few documents supplied by deep throat then and now repeating with a sense of great wisdom “detailing” what deep throat revealed and what we read in newspapers today.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Chitra may be a dow the line reporter, but she was courageous. Of you remeber history, the COngress let off all tis goons, rottweillers and lumpens on anybody who wanted to probe the kickback reciever.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps you need to go through history and see how sensational were the headlines those days and how elections were fought on this issue. There was nothing courageous about it. She was never harrassed or brow beaten.

  • Anonymous

    A milkman continuously ringing a door bell. A lady came out and said ‘ kitna dabaoge ab
    bas bhi karo, tumse achcha to paper wala hai Jo chup chap neeche se daal deta hai ‘

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Haa, haa, haa, haaaaaaa!

    The lady doesn’t understand that milkmen earn their livelihood by pressing and squeezing.

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  • Anonymous

    @Mahesh,

    If it’s a political propaganda, then it can co-exist with many political parties. It may create a political space for themselves. Then perhaps it would be like any other version of communist. What they are aiming at is immediacy. The violent methods are driven towards that objective. That sense and purpose of immediacy is putting Maoists on the same platform as Talibans. Infact, it would not be wrong to put Team Anna as ‘Urban Maoist’ just taking their method into consideration. Do you think anybody would have taken notice of Team Anna, had they not imposed extreme demands and methods?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    Team Anna is urban Maoists? How many people did they kill and how many they
    kidnapped ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt

    Any type of militancy is not acceptable, whatever the reasons.

    Did these maoists take part in the acceptable and civilised political process (forming a political party, contest elections at various levels) to push and take forward their ideology and agenda? Not to my knowledge.
    Perhaps they knew / know that there would not be too many takers. Hence, their refusal even today to eschew violence and take part in the constitutional process. Don’t they claim that ‘all’ the tribals support them? Therefore, what prevents them to contest elections. True, the tribals they claim to represent have been left behind. Is there any evidence that the living standards have improved dramatically under maoists’ hegemony?

    Similar militant methods were tried by the Khalistanis too in Punjab.

    Now that the maoists have ‘established’ themselves in large number of districts across many states (for variety of reasons), I doubt it is their ideology or the welfare of the tribals still driving them. Now it be must power and easy money (extortions and perhaps funding from other sources).

    Team Anna. It was bound to fail, in spite of initial public euphoria in their support. Their public posturing (fight against corruption) was a smokescreen, add to that their arrogance and constant threats. Their objective was very different. The very institutions they targeted now do not take any notice of them.

    I am not sure whether we can label Team Anna as ‘urban maoists’. Maybe ‘urban bullies’ would be more apt. That they failed is a different matter altogether.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree any kind of extreme posturing is unacceptable. At this moment just saying unacceptable is not good enough. The Govt. can change the tax law retrospectively just because they don’t want to give up the tax revenue. But we can not change the maoist problem retrospectively just by saying it’s unacceptable. We need to find solution to this problem. Let IPL, AGNI, 7% growth not blind us. Time we took this problem head on. We would love to be part of the solution, rather than wishing away the problem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My post had nothing to with the solutions. Be assured, I am not blinded by all this IPL, AGNI and what have you.

    The maoists having been unreasonable all this time, the solution is to take them on, when all else fails (it has) – power and money at their command will not let them give up their ‘rule’. In Hindi there is a saying ‘ laato.n ke bhoot, baato.n ……………..”

  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan
    Every murderer or kidnapper is not a maoist. We understand so little of maoists ! That’s why we need to understand the maoist problem.Also you missed a vital part of my argument – Infact, it would not be wrong to call Team Anna as ‘Urban Maoist’ just taking their method into consideration. Remember their call – “we want the Lokpal in 3 days” or something of that sort.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    You could have used other term for team Anna. Maoists are famous for killings and kidnapping and they don’t believe in Indian law. I don’t see any resemblence between
    the two. One protests violently and another peacefully.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    There is a similarity between Coke and Pepsi.And there is a difference. The discerning buyer knows the difference. He pays for the difference, not for the similarities. The similarities are for the academic study.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Neither Coke nor Pepsi kill anyone.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Hope you are not Type II.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow. From Maosists to Anna to soft drinks to diabetes. What next ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    From Prabhat to Prahlad to Sanjay to Dev datt to…………….

  • Anonymous

    Read something very interesting.

    In a book entitled “Dialogues with The Guru” there is an incident, where an Englishman was dissuaded by a Shankaracharya, when the former desired to get converted into Hinduism—obviously, being very much impressed by the conversation he had with the Shankaracharya!. The reason given by Shankaracharya was, “What more patent purpose need be sought after to explain your being born of Christian parents than that in God’s view Christianity was the best suited to one of your competency? The Lord in His supreme wisdom can well be relied upon to judge what is the religion best suited for us. He knows that our poor intellects will be helpless in deciding for us the path which we should tread. He takes upon Himself the responsibility of deciding that path and gives us birth in a country, clime, time and faith best suited for us. Why should we ignore this gracious mercy of the Lord and try to do the impossible by comparing the relative values of the several religions?” The Englishman persists saying “I have tried to understand Christianity and follow it to the best of my lights, but very many doubts are cropping up now and then and I have not been able to meet anybody who can solve them. That is why I wanted to study other religions”. The Shankaracharya replied “Doubts can never be solved unless you approach the persons who have not merely studied their religion but are daily living it. For the purpose of trade, you are prepared to cross the seas and explore the air, but for the purpose of Truth, you want the teachers to come to your door and solve your doubts for you. The attitude that religion is an interesting side aspect of life must go. If once you realize that religion is life itself and not an aspect of it, you will begin to explore the entire world earnestly for a proper teacher. He is ever available and is only waiting for a symptom of real earnestness in you. I am not prepared to believe that there are no such teachers in Christianity. They may not be in the ordinary world of strife, for such a world does not want them nor have they any use for such a world. They may sometimes be found even in the midst of strife, as strife cannot injure them. Go, therefore, in search of such true Christians and ask them in true humbleness of heart to solve your doubts. They will do so in no time and you will find that God, in spite of your doubts, was after all justified in making you the child of Christian parents.”

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  • Anonymous

    Haryana should be handed over to Paksitan. They kill girl fetus as well as grown up girls. The DGP in Ruchiika case buys a Mercedez, then flaunts it with a Rs 9 lakh license plate, just like his feudal cousins in Pakistan.

    Come to think of it, Pakistan will not be that bad!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There were many things that I always thought could happen only in Pakistan, never in India. But the happenings in recent years have proved me wrong. We are as bad as pakistanis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Binoy hegde, Be careful what you write.One resident blogger , a builder from haryana /gurgaon , whisky and tennis ball swirling geezer , who sees the WEST as a repository of all vices and HARYANA/INDIA of all virtues.
    Only that the ******** CD happened to be from a country apparently where the moral codes are superior to the rest of the world.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan/Binoy,

    These problems are prevalent in North of India, mainly in Haryana and sadly
    police does not do much even when the cases are registered. These Khaps
    have their own laws.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Binoy

    Attitudes towards females are bad… and need a social revolution. I have posted a reply further up on why….

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay-

    I remember you had a dialogue in the last blog about “nationness” with Mr Thomas.
    An interesting article in NY times by Manu Joseph about how/why “regional” is taking over “national” in India…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/26/world/asia/26iht-letter26.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Binoy

    I fear that regional feelongs can create more fissures on river waters, migrants, sons of the soil, language…. etc etc.

    I think a full free market all over India can be a good national uniter.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning .

    What is preferable? Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s.

    Parkinson’s.

    It is better to spill a peg of scotch then to forget where you kept the bottle.

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  • Anonymous

    The greatest challenge
    Amitabh Kant

    The writer is the CEO & MD of the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor Development Corporation.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12869658.cms

    The city of Tughlaqabad, the previous incarnation of Delhi, was abandoned in the 14th century due to severe water shortage. Akbar’s capital at Fatehpur Sikri was abandoned in 1585 due to paucity of water. Leading global cities like Sheba and Babel declined and subsequently disappeared because water sources had dried up. The destiny of some of the greatest cities of the world like New York, London, Paris and Rome have been shaped by water. Water is the critical resource which can enhance India’s economic growth, improve the quality of life of its people and ensure environmental sustainability. Climate changes and overuse of water could mean that nearly one in every two persons will live in water-stressed areas. Households, industry and agriculture will increasingly compete for water, leaving little to sustain ecosystems.

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    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    We may see countries fight for water if something drastic is not done urgently. Too
    much of water is being wasted and there is no proper planning of preserving and harvesting of water.. Author has written about Singapore recycling the drainage water.
    Initially people of Singapore had some apprehensions whether drinking this water would
    be safe. To remove their fear, PM of Singapore came on TV and drank a glass of
    recycled water. Shekhar Kapoor is planning to make a movie on this subject which he has named Paani.

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  • Anonymous

    Moody’s slams Gandhi family for failing India

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Moodys-slams-Gandhi-family-for-failing-India/941435/

    The Congress’ first family has come under criticism by Moody’s Analytics for failing to restart the legislative process for reforms, accusing it of blowing their chance in the recent state elections including UP.

    “The real power behind the government, the Gandhi family, blew their chance to restart the legislative process at the recent state elections in which family scion Rahul Gandhi invested countless hours and money touring the rural backwaters of Uttar Pradesh,” Moody’s Analytics Senior Economist Glenn Levine said.
    ———–

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    We don’t need Moody’s to tell what is obvious to all of us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Moody’s is only the latest in a long list of people who are slamming the GHANDYS.

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistan PM found guilty and sentenced for very very long period of 30 seconds.

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  • Anonymous

    Old stage, new players

    The failure to construct an all-India motif has led to the return of the federalism debate

    Suhas Palshikar. The writer teaches political science at the University of Pune

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/old-stage-new-players/941475/0

    The issue of federalism is once again in the news. It erupted over the Lokpal bill last December. It cast a shadow on the prime minister’s visit to Bangladesh. Koodankulam and the issue of Tamils in Sri Lanka matter much in the Centre’s relations with Tamil Nadu. Now, counter-terror measures have become the bone of contention between the Central government and the states. While all these issues have a serious bearing on matters of policy and governance, and thus on the autonomy of the states, the script is further complicated by the fact that the ongoing tussle has much to do with the possible political formations during and after the Lok Sabha elections scheduled for 2014. So, the current developments throw up two different questions: Is this a new turn in our federal institutional arrangements? Does the present situation portend yet another round of federalisation of the party political system?

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    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    No change in visa policy on Narendra Modi: US

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/NorthAmerica/No-change-in-visa-policy-on-Narendra-Modi-US/Article1-846304.aspx

    The US has has said there is no change in its visa policy with regard to Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi. “Our position on the visa issue hasn’t changed at all,” state department spokesperson Victoria Nuland told reporters at her daily news conference on Tuesday. Nuland was responding to questions on the letter written by Congressman Joe Walsh to the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, that the US Government reverse its 2005 decision not to issue US visa to Modi.

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    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    “islam is the only religion which provide right to own property & divorce to women”.

    Not true. In India, the Supreme court has given enough constitutional rights to women. Many of the laws like Hindu Succession Act has been suitably amended.

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  • Anonymous

    Sukma’s distant snow
    Samar Halarnkar,

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/ColumnsSamarHalarnkar/Sukma-s-distant-snow/Article1-846146.aspx

    When Alex VF Paul Menon was on his Bharat darshan – an old civil service tradition that takes young probationers on a familiarisation tour of their country – his colleagues noticed his aversion to luxury and general enthusiasm.
    “Enthu cutlet,” noted a blog written by one of his classmates from the 2006 batch of Indian Administrative Service (IAS) officers. “(Alex) had a natural aversion to leather seats…so (he) could be found sitting, standing, crouching or even lying at any other place of any vehicle except the seat…”

    On that tour, Menon – captured last week by Maoists irked by his zeal to bring public services to India’s most underserved communities – formed part of the “crazy four”, a microcosm of those who represent the still-idealistic underpinnings of India’s much-corroded bureaucratic steel frame. They were so named, explained the blogger, “because (they) were characterised by one absurd behavioral pattern – climbing up glaciers with absolutely no gear, and just because snow ‘appears’ pretty close”.

    ————

    One from Menon’s old “crazy four”, Shruti Singh, is the first collector of another new Chhattisgarh district, Bemetara. She spends her time taking government to the villages, persuading legislators and MPs to mediate between the government and citizens, and sending officials to not just spend days and nights in villages but deliver on-the-spot solutions (more than 2,700 such cases were solved as of this month) and make people aware of what’s on offer.

    Digression: In another part of the country, the third of the “crazy four” Salma K Fahim, Karnataka’s first female Muslim IAS officer, tries to reach HIV-positive people who are off her radar as director of the state’s Aids-prevention society. The fourth, Rohit Gupta, an IIT graduate, is collector of Jhalawar district, where he set up an online system, now being replicated statewide, that allows people to check which sub-divisional officer and doctor is on leave; he’s also configuring systems that track births, ultrasound centres and teachers – part of a plan to reduce female infanticide and boost female education).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    These make me believe not everything is lost!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is in spite of the politics and the politicians.

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  • Anonymous

    Husband to his wife : ‘ That guy Suresh, from fifth floor of our building told me this morning that he has slept with all the ladies of this building except one”
    Wife :”I am sure that must be that ugly fat Kamla who is staying on 7th floor”

    ============

    Wife : ” tell me honestly, have you ever slept with any woman other then me ”
    Husband : ” Darling, believe me I have only slept with you, with others I always
    stay awake.”

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    naughty naughty!!

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  • Anonymous

    @ Shan

    I think mamta’s total failure and the impending collapse of her government makes you spew venom… :)

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  • Anonymous

    Go Modi, Go!

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/article3353891.ece?homepage=true

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Modi is doing wonders for Gujarat. Only problem is that lately he has
    become very arrogant of his achievements. You will rarely find an arrogant Gujarati and they abhor arrogant people. In the election at the end of this year, I just hope that the people of Gujarat ignore his this attitude and vote for him for his good work he is doing for the state.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I have not sensed that, he has always talked about making Gujrat the desired destination for investment, making Gujrat into a South korea etc.. I will not classify that as arrogance but pride..

    May be I missed his arrogance. You are right about the Gujrati trait of non-arrogance. I have never come across an arrogant Gujrati.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I was in Gujarat in Feb. where I heard few times Gujaratis saying this ‘ Modi ne bahu
    hoshiyari thaee gayi che’ which means he has become arrogant. I never used to hear
    this on my previous regular visits to Gujarat. I just hope that people who think this
    are in minority.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘I have never come across an arrogant Gujrati’

    What should one make of this and what conclusion one should draw?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    have you noticed? The congress party has already given Modi a walk over, arrogance or no arrogance.

    Their fervent prayer now is only for Modi to win with lesser number of seats than the last time, which will mean the congress has won!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Relax, he will still win, except perhaps with lesser number of seats than he has currently.

    There are certain signs to note – (a) recent loss of an assembly seat to Congress and also losing a number of panchayats recently (b) Keshubhai Patel and his followers flexing their (political and financial) muscles, etc.

    I would still put my money on him. Though I have a feeling that the BJP’s central leadership would love to see a weakened Modi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    To balance

    Electricity surplus Gujarat not so ‘power full’, reveals census

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/electricity-surplus-gujarat-not-so-power-full-reveals-census/932815/

    For a state government that pats itself for having turned Gujarat into a power surplus region by connecting all the urban and rural areas to the electricity grid, the census data of 2011 — that shows over 11 lakh households not having electricity as main source of illumination — could come as a shock.

    ————

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar

    Regarding Suhas Palikar column, federalism vs state’s rights etc..
    A column from Manu Joseph (Open Magazine) in NewYork Times on the same subject is posted by Hegde in this blog elsewhere.

    The root problem is with the constitution. The seeds were sown, as I mentioned in the last blog in response to Viju’s comment, when Ambedkar et al worked overtime in segregating Indians in the document, and that segregation has grown left and right, wide and deep. It really was a lousy document, causing revisit and change 97 times so far (in 60 years), (where as US constituition had 27 amendmends in 235 years!) –

    While Balkanization may be a distant fear, there is nothing more that China and Pakistan will like than that.. In fact a Chinese think tank wrote an article about how China can accelerate the balkaniztion.

    Indecisive central leadership falling on one misstep after another will only make the “go self” movement worse. There is nothing wrong in decentralization on a well thought out basis rather than as a reaction to events and demands.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    The key here is the behaviour of the Central parties. We had three national parties — Congress, BJP and the Left. The left is now just a regional outfit.

    The regional parties like DMK, TMC, SP, Akalis, NC will always have a tunnel vision and would raise regional, linguistic and religious issues (Akalis and NC).

    The Central parties have to be matured not to react in the same language and not to inflame passions further. We have seen diasters when the COngress did an Akali Dal in Punjab and a National Conference in J&K (by propping up GM Shah).

    However the way the COngress fought the UP elections just showed that i had not jettisoned opportunistic extreme stances.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Rajaji was against the linguistic division of the country precisely because that will form a foundation for similar divisions based on other factors.
    Rajaji was also for economic liberalization, removal of license raj, ….

    While it does not make any sense to ponder on “what it could have been”, it makes sense not to repeat the same mistakes

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are right here. All of India can easily be covnerted into hapless minorities. being exploited by the others. For example Raj Thakrey tries to make Mahrashtrians feel exploited. Amonr the richest states… yet exploited…

    I think as a country we fall easily to make believe tales of victimhood.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Our Brahmin Yuvraj is different. Bal and Raj Thakrey talk of Maratha pride, Modi
    talks of Gujarat pride and Rahul Gandhi says that people from UP are beggars.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Good observation!
    (may be he has an identity problem; his great grand father was all Indian, but wanted to be on the world stage; he is mix mix mix, more a “‘world” citizen, but wants to be (or forced to be) on the Indian stage)
    He is a goner anyway.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very funny man… another competition for stand up comedy!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did Rajaji suggest the division of the country on any other basis or it was supposed to be one state-country ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    your question oozes sarcasm in gallons.
    Still, you need to be answered.

    Rajaji (I am sure you don’t know him or anything about him) said India would progress well if we have zones and sub-zones, rather than division of the country on linguistic basis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I would like to know more on Rajaji’s Zone/SubZone theory and the administrative frame work. Please give more details.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Governance will always be work-in-progress.

    Being a very diverse country, we learn and make changes in policies and even amend the constitution. Most amendments have been minor to take care of some particular laws and Acts. The basic structure of the constitution has remained the same, if I remember correctly, many years ago, the Supreme Court had ruled that certain key and fundamental provisions in the constitution cannot be changed/amended even by the parliament.

    We can debate whether reorganisation of states on the basis of language was right or wrong. It can now be matter of conjecture.

    Our country has a very large number of languages. Imagine a state reorganised on the some other basis, where 45% of the population speak language A and 55% speak language B. Which language should the state Government use for its work or should everything be done in two languages (driving up costs and translators laughing all the way to their dictionaries)? BTW, as you must know, all laws and acts are enacted in English and translations made into the required local languages (if need be), In cases of dispute, the English version holds it own.

    Moreover, when the Hindi speaking people (in majority) tried to impose Hindi on the rest of the country, you know what exactly happened. These Hindi speaking states refused to teach /use any of the other languages (Tamil, Telegu, Bengali, etc.) in their own backyard. This is another case of arrogance. Hence, the three language formula was devised – of course so many of the states only follow two-language formula, their own and English – examples Tamil Nad and Hindi speaking states. Those who teach third language (Hindi), the people of that state are at an advantage.

    Having said that, this fighting among regional and national parties has to be tackled. Except for loony sections (in minority) of the populace in various parts of the country, no one talks of breaking away and balkanizing the country, though the regional parties will talk of local pride, sentiments and needs, blahs, blahs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well, we fru…ers took the British administrative system, ie IAS/IPS, which drags the country backward every minute; why would nt w e take the British geographical split (northern, eastern etc) or some variation — dont you think British deliberately did not want to divide regions by language for the problems they foresaw..

    Ambedkar should take responsibility for the sh– he created — he creted the root division (language based states etc emerged from the seed he saw)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Which is perhaps why Akhilesh has decided that enough of Ambedkar-Bharat Ratna Sri Baba Saheb Ambedkar- is enough and henceforth only Dr.Lohia and his isms will be the guiding force for the SP and their administration.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I suggest you get your ‘historical’ facts right first.

    Dr. Ambedkar was the principal author of a document. The base was Government of India Act, 1935. It would have taken us years to write an alternative to the above and in any case the Act dealt more with the administrative and judicial matters and seemed fair to all.

    The document was debated, amended and adopted by the Constituent Assembly consisting of 500 plus members from all across the country and became the Constitution of India. That was democracy at work. Therefore desist from blaming Dr. Ambedkar alone or some other individual for real or perceived flaws.

    The British were not in India to rake care of the people of India, per se. It did not matter to them how the provinces were spread out. Whatever they did mostly was for their own interests. Therefore, let us not debate what the British did or did not do while they lorded over us and their way was better than the one we adopted.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well MMS is the leader of the country, we blame him for his government’s faults. ditto with Modi, Jaya, Achuthanandan et al.

    Ambedkar was the head of that organization and he deserves all the blame for coming up with a fruckkk up document that had to be amended 1.5 times a year 9wheeras the US constitution had one amendment in 10 years) —

    Ambedkar focused on dividing Indian people — the root was sown, and no escape from that.

    Whatever British did was in their interest – and whatever the fruked up assembly did was just to keep the same sh– …same bureaucracy, same systems– fruked up railway, IAS ….just look around… after 97 amendmends we still have those sh—i .

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have made note of your anger.

    If Dr. Ambedkar did come up with a third-rate document, what prevented 500 plus members to reject it and get someone else to draft a new one.Going by your reasoning and logic – I did not realise that one person was able to browbeat 500+ members into accepting his document. Was he a dictator and made the army wait outside to tell the rest as to who was the boss?

    Having said that, please suggest what alternatives you think should have worked vis-a-vis democracy, parliament, the bureaucracy and the works – merely lamenting and using 4 letter words would not do.

    I look forward to concrete alternatives.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This anger against Dr Ambedkar is child like. It’s not very different from a cribbing child constantly blaming his parents for all his miseries. From a child to adult and then an old man,he grows and enjoys all the goodies in life but he keeps cribbing and blaming the poor parents who perhaps did their best under the given circumstances.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you must really feel the pat on your back, because the congressi troll ‘has taken note of your anger’.

    Why can we not blame one person for this mess?

    Gandhiji advised Nehru to dissolve congress party as it had served its purpose of achieving independence. Now, if Nehru disobeys the master and the supreme leader and the party continues to rule the country for the next sixty years and ruins it completely, whom else would you blame for the mess his party has created?

  • Anonymous

    Anna Hazare praises Raj Thakrey. He is learning tricks of politics.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Stupid of him

    We have to basically use Anna and Mamata as opportunities to ram in change.

    Anna has done good work… but Raj???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Is it for Raj’s winning many seats in Mumbai corporate election taking seats away from “bad” parties?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will tell you why.

    Anna Hazare and his team have made themselves irrelevant by their own shenanigans and arrogance (that word again). Most politicians do not even take notice of them (and that hurts also). Therefore, praising Raj Thakre is …………….

    ———-
    There ‘may’ be other angle to it – birds of the same feather – taking recourse to violence.

    Anna using violence to straighten ‘wayward’ people and Raj’s goons using violence and vandalism to ’show’ UPwaalaas and Biharis their place. Now this must be really a case of hitting below the (army) belt!!!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Read the stroy on the NDTV newsite. It is a sentence taken out of context. Anna just told Raj that he liked the way he conducted an exam to select possible candidates. As expected the NDTV news report got Narendra Modi into the picture also !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It has more to with the poor show Anna had recently in Mumbai than love and respect for Raj Thakrey and his work. Anna will now also stop denying RSS support. He now knows the source of the crowd in his earlier meetings. He just got wiser like a politician.

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  • Anonymous

    Viju

    FYI. About land management/agricultural system etc in the Chola Kingdom

    http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-bookreview/article3347164.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    very intersting. the review talks about a fairly elaborate adminstrative mechanism.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan what u say about Gujratis hating arogance, and Modi being one, is very intelligent.
    Also vaary entertaining was your poem on my kidney stone last month hehe. Thx

    Vijay who is Mangalam is he engerich or Ravi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Or maybe the child… out of the love story…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    long patang chhorne lage ho.careful.mustad oil massaged ramdev lathi fix all.2 min in field, he he change to oo oo. poosie to **** sher inside.jaihind.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Tora bora mein osama ke maut ke gam mein dimag phir gaya :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Intelligence agencies have reported about credible info on a terrorist attack on US to celebrate the death anniversary of Osama Saheb

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    The US is getting all its drones ready. This atack could well mean a huge reprisal.

    Funny that the Sovets got out… with 15000 men loss. US is now in am endless loss situation. They could have well left the soviets convert Afghanistan into a socialist setup. Life would have been so different.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Osama’s ghost has sent Mangqala here as a proxy on the death anniversary !

  • Anonymous

    Shenoy,

    You are right. I know very little of Rajaji.

    What was his idea? What was the basis of his idea dividing the country in Zones and sub-zones ? Every 100 km radius would form a Zone and 10 km a sub-zone ? I am looking forward to the ideas propagated by Rajaji only in this regard.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak-ji,

    for the present, an initiation into your learning about Rajaji:

    http://www.ceeby.com/people/Rajaji.cfm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Rajagopalachari

    You may also benefit from reading Rajaji’s Mahabharata and also Ramayana.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sorry to say you missed the point again. I am only keen on knowing the idea about state/region hood as propagated by Rajaji and strongly put forth by you. I am very keen to know his proposed administrative framework. Since you argued so strongly in favour of his idea, it would be very kind of you to help us understand with a small description.

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi,

    One does not need much of persuasion to create a division based on “othering”. It’s a state of mind. It does not depend on linguistic segregation of states, religionm caste or education. When somebody wants to inflict “othering” on somebodyelse, he will find or invent a reason. Language reflects a semblance of a common culture. It’s easier for people with a common culture and language to live together. They do not feel alienated. They feel they belong to a community. That’s why you see a mini china town or indian town in western countries. I do not see any harm in division of region by language.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    the fru— Potti Sriramulu’s fast until death and self-immolation in 1952 (for a separate Telugu/Andhra) state unnerved Nehru, and within three days of Sriramulu’s self immolation he agreed to the Telugu/Andhra state;hastening other states.

    The fru— Sriramulu’s descendents are now threatening self immolation again for Telengana.

    The frukkkg Markendeya Katju’s grandfather KN Katju pushed nehru to approve against Rajaji’s wishes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Gopi

    ‘Fru—’ gives a nice embellishment and contemporary feel to your historic argument, but says a very little about your intent. I would greatly appreciate if you could illustrate Rajaji’s wishes and their political relevance for our benefit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Were Rajaji’s (with utmost respect to him) opinions/views the final word on the subject that no one was supposed go against his ‘wishes’?

    What about the views of Dr. Rajendar Prasad , Pandit Nehru, B. Pattabhi Sitaramayya, Alladi Krishnaswamy Iyer, G. V. Mavalankar and I can go on naming all the stalwarts of that time?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We can still debate Rajaji’s point of view. Bloggers can bring in other views for the discussion. As Gopi and Shenoy say, Rajaji had a different yet workable plan ( based on Zones and Sub zones ). Can anybody throw some light on this administrative framework ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can anybody throw some light on this administrative framework ?

    Even I am waiting for enlightenment on this plan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajaji was the head administartor (CM or governor or whatever it was at that time) for the Madras State encompassing Andhra region; others were distant observers.
    Nehru himself was against a fast division, that too on language basis, but he was unnerved by Sriramulu’s immolation

    Anonymous Reply:

    C R was Governor General Of India (1948-1950), Chief Minister (1952-1954) – Madras , Minister of Home affairs (1950-1951, he succeeded Sardar Patel) at the centre.

    He was one among the equals. I am sure his views must have been taken on board and the majority view prevailed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Andhra declaration happened in 1952 (long before states were reorganized in 1956– Andhra declaartion was a catalyst) as a result of Sriramulu’s immolation – Raajji as the CM CM of Madras state which encompassed the Andhra region did not want to yield to these types of threats – and advised Nehru not to yield too; but the new state was announced three days after the man killed himself. Markandeya’s grand daddy, another *****, was the Central Home Minister at that time

    Anonymous Reply:

    anyway, to be continued, going to sleep

    Anonymous Reply:

    In December 1953, Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru appointed the States Reorganisation Commission to prepare for the creation of states on linguistic lines. This was headed by Justice Fazal Ali and the commission itself was also known as the Fazal Ali Commission. The efforts of this commission were overseen by Govind Ballabh Pant, who served as Home Minister from December 1954. The commission created a report in 1955 recommending the reorganisation of India’s states. The States Reorganisation Act, 1956 was passed by the Parliament.

    Andhra Pradesh came into being on 1st November 1956.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What was Rajaji’s position on this subject at that point of time ? Did he talk about his zone theory and the alternative administrative framework ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only Gopi & Co. can answer that. I am not sure if there was ever a zone theory. We will wait for their elaboration.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, you are right here, the pacifists of the Nehru regime succumbed to the pressure tactics of the Andhraites without so much as a whimper.

    The states-Re-organisation on linguistic basis committee did a shoddy job was borne out in later years as starkly as the division of the country on religious lines in 1947.

    There is a continuing problem between Karnataka and Maharashtra on Belgaum,

    Haryana was created by merging areas that earlier formed parts of Punjab, UP, HP,

    Jharkhand was created after a lot of agitation, so was Chattisgarh.

    Hill areas of Darjeeling refuse to stay under WB administration,

    Telangana has been agitating for a separate state since 1956,

    Vidharba is agitating for a separate state since long.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Gopi and Pathak

    I am all fr smaller states. Maharashtra and Gujarat together would not have been successfull Imagine a dry Mumbai…

    Closer North, Bihar and Jharkhand are both happier after a division and so are MP and Chattisgarh.

    UP should be chopped into 3 for some things to improve here. Uttrakhand which broke away is roaring…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing to worry about. Mumbai would have been as dry as Ahmedabad today.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Juice ke glass mein whisky… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “Mumbai would have been as dry as Ahmadabad today”.

    Theoretically speaking, yes. In practice, ………..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A peg in Mumbai would have tasted as sweet as it tastes now every evening in Ahmedabad.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They say the best ‘booze’ in India is available in Baroda.

    Seriously, the politicians in Gujarat have got into a cleft stick re: alcohol. They should just give this policy a quiet burial and fill the state coffers .

    They will not, it is one of the biggest rackets in the country. Lot of unscrupulous people (politicians, bureaucrats, police, sellers) make lot of unaccounted money by selling lot of genuine liquor to lot of thirsty drinkers – all below board of course. It is one big happy family.

    Anonymous Reply:

    One big happy family.
    How apt! Nobody cribs. You just have to give a quizzing look at the waiter in Ahmedabad, he smiles and you have your stuff in no time. Perfect administration – one big happy family.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Currently the head of this big happy family is a person who goes by the name of Narendra Modi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Now compare this with one of the holiest place of India, Hardwar. An auto riksha driver there once told
    me that ask the main pundit of any temple in Hardwar you will get your booze.
    Yes, Gujarat is not perfect as all other states of India, but Modi unlike most of the CMs
    is working honestly to bring prosperity to the people of his state.

  • Anonymous

    Viju

    Any new info on “judgeship in exchange of BJ”… it simply is amazing how the whole media is silent on this…. I bet even this blog on “Kayani” is a forced, planned diversion

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I think the matter has been conveniently swept away. Singhvi will lie low and keep advising th COngress, but his career is over.

    The latest is Sachin’s nomination to the Rajya Sabha. The untimely hurry shows that the COngress wants to redirect tomorrows headlines away from Bofors onto Sachin…

    Strange that he was nominated, since he is still playing and probably would never attend th Rajya Sabha.

    Correct way would have been to wait his retirement and then fete him. Possibly by letting him become presidet of Mumbai Cricket assoscaition first

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what the yuvraj failed miserably to achieve (getting the young to join the party), the Rajmata hopes Sachin will achieve.

    I think, Sachin was being a buddhu to join a sunset party.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Disqus acting disgusting again !

    Bloggers may choos Firefox and Facebook

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  • Anonymous

    5cingulategyrus9 replied to you

    How come MAMATA has solved JANGALMAHAL/MAOIST problem in WEST BENGAL. And Maoist have surrendered in droves
    —————————————

    *** As per a book by Trinamool Congress MP Kabir Suman and a letter by Vikram, said to be a top Maoist functionary, that claim Trinamool workers and Maoists have worked together.

    In his recent book, Nishaner naam Tapasi Malik , Suman exposed how the anti-land-grabbing movement in Nandigram has been an armed rebellion, and has succeeded because of close coordination between the TC and the armed villagers backed by the Maoists.

    *** On Jan. 31, 2012 two suspected Maoists were arrested from a guesthouse of the Midnapore municipality, which is run by the Trinamul Congress .

    *** Kanchan, Deepak (a former Maoist politburo member) and Selim (a state committee member) had organized the Nandigram movement, along with the Trinamool Congress-dominated Bhumi Uchchhed Pratirodh Committee (BUPC). The trio gave arms training to BUPC members in Sonachura, and even taught them to use IEDs (improvised explosive devices). The armed BUPC squad in Nandigram had locals like Kartick, Batul, Jhuna, Gopal, Mukti, Badal and Sanatan Pramanick.

    During this time, the Maoist trio held meetings with a Trinamool MLA.They even paid `18 lakh to Trinamool leaders Nishikanta Mondal (the Sonachura panchayat chief, who was murdered in September 2009) and Khokan Shit to buy arms. A senior investigating officer claimed Kanchan had revealed this to the police soon after his arrest.

    ====

    The list can go on to show that TMC and Maoists worked in tandem. They were allies.

    Did Mamta use Maoist for her political gain ? Yes, she did. Kishenji was instrumental in bringing about the ground level support for Mamta. His position was leaked and he got killed – so easily for a man who evaded the security forces for so long, so successfully ! Was he betrayed ? Perhaps, yes.

    Sombody said TMC is Kashmir’s PDP in WB. Do I agree ? There are enough indications towards a strong complicity.

    Mamta has not solved the maoist problem. Maoists being a cadre driven organisation look for instructions from the top. The top maoist leaders aligned with Mamta. Many joined TMC and now enjoy getting all the local construction and supply contracts.

    So if you think she has solved the problem, then you are wrong. There is a confusion in the ranks of Maoists about how to deal with Mamta, because she does not need Maoists now. The elections are far away. The cracks would soon appear and perhaps you would change your opinion.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Well reserched and factual.

    I think we need to get some centrist and right parties into Bengal. maybe show all the bongs real life movies oh how the suffering Chinese shiver at mao’s name. Till then Paschim Bonga will keep debating which ideolgy to follow and shirk going to office.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Expand your horizon. It is not about just west bengal. More than 70% states have been affected by the Maoist issues. One must take this issue seriously.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Manohar

    you said –

    The maoists having been unreasonable all this time, the solution is to take them on, when all else fails (it has) – power and money at their command will not let them give up their ‘rule’. In Hindi there is a saying ‘ laato.n ke bhoot, baato.n ……………..”

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    Manohar,

    Perhaps you have heard about the “liberated Zones” ( not same as Zone theory of Rajaji as suggested by Shenoy ) in many states. Perhaps you are aware that in these areas the Govt. has no control. Can you believe that this siege has not been for a day or a week. It has been there for years. It’s irrespective of the party ruling in the states.

    You can go on spending money, drain your resources. It will impact you and your Govt., but not maoists. They don’t need much to survive. They lived in jungle before and do so now. So i am not sure the stick approach will really work. Time for an out of box solution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Zone Theory of Rajaji. I do not know if there was ever such a theory. We will wait for Gopi & Co. to elaborate and explain in detail.

    2) I personally feel that the stick approach is only way to solve the problem. They may live on very little, but they are denying their ’subjkects’ the benefits they are entitled to.

    True, the Governments have allowed the problem to fester for too long, but that cannot be the reason not to take them on.

    3) I cannot think of an out-of-the-box solution. Can you and would care to elaborate?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I wish I had a solution to this problem. But i see no harm floating few ideas even if they are far fetched. If that creates some awareness – a little more than reading newspaper headlines, it would still be worth it. I would love to see some genuine concerns and effort to resolve the issue amongst people in general.

    You have pointed out the ’stick’ approach is the only way out. Perhaps you have a point.

    But we must plan an “exit” route before we use this stick approach extensively. Else, they would run from one end to another, getting disillusioned even more.

    We need to create both “inward” and “outward” processes to be more effective.

    1) Start with the isolation process. Cut the support of arms, ammunition and finance. Cut the supply route from the outside world.

    2) Start schools, hospitals in remote villages. Encourage children to go to schools.

    3) Implement MNRGEA programmes extensively.

    4) Distribute Televisions, Solar powered lights, water filter swatches, First AiD kit FREE in these remote villages.

    5) Accelerate the cooperative movement.

    6) Hunt down the top Maoist leaders hiding in the cities. Cut off their political patronage.

    7) Create a protracted and well coordinated simultaneous operation in all states. [ Do I see opposition ruled states cringing ? ]
    8) Declare well publicised Amensty programme.

    9) Use the NGO’s operating in these areas to connect and take the message forward.

    10) Make tribals part of the development. They must benefit when mine leases are given out. This should be done a part of the Govt. policy.

    Just a thought.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay ji,

    you are under the mistaken impression that you are the first to “create” these “exit” policies.

    These and many others have been tried in several states with little success since the 1960s, whereas the Shoot the killer Naxals was effectively employed by Siddartha Shankar Ray, the socialist CM of WB and the Naxal menace was rooted out.

    This, despite tacit supposrt to the Naxalites by the CPM of Jyoti Basu, who later thundered, “We will wreck the constitution (of India of course, because China had no constitution as we know it) from within”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am glad the similar strategies have been successful in the past. Come to think of it, Maoists have followed the standard operating procedures of Naxals and perhaps, improvised on it. Then the corrective measures that helped getting rid of naxals may also help get rid of the Maoists. I guess we need an equivalent of Siddarth Shankar Ray. Any suggestions ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt ji,

    you are under mistaken impression here. The division of the country into zones was suggested, perhaps much before the Government of India Act 1935, and a million times repeated subsequently. I only have made a reference to it along with Gopi.

    You have compared Anna Hazare with Maoists. It shows you have no idea at all what these anti-national t terrorists stand for. And if you have forgotten, these Naxal terrorists have killed, so far more than 375 people, who were all small, poor, illiterate villagers and jungle dwellers. This is of course, besides an equal number of people working for the government as officials and police.

    How anybody in his sane mind can compare these murderers with Anna Hazare?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do we presume Rajaji never propagated this Zone/SubZone theory as suggested by you? Do we also presume that Rajaji never offered any solid alternative division options and administrative framework as claimed by you and Gopi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what Rajaji offered itself was thew alterantive to the linguistic states.

    Long back in Delhi we used to read on most walls a slogan:

    “dulhan wohi jo Pathak ji dilwaye”

    I think, here too we can say, “solution wohi jo Pathak G dikhaye”

    Anonymous Reply:

    What was that definite offer Rajaji made ? Both you and Gopi have been very emphatic about it , yet give no details even after so many requests!

    Anonymous Reply:

    They seem to have none. Just hot air.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will make a slight change in the slogan:

    Hot air wohi jo Pathak ji aur the congressi troll chhoden”

    Anonymous Reply:

    From a presumably learned and intelligent blogger to a mere sloganeer, the slide has been very fast and obvious! Does it really take this little to break the shell?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    You suggested that Rajaji propagated the Zone and Sub Zone theory. Anyway, it’s no point taking the discussion forward in that direction as neither you nor Gopi has come up with some solid replies.

    As I pointed out to somebody else before, the Anna Team can be called as “Urban Maoists” taking “their method of intimidation to get things done”. Their verbal abuses are no less than bullets of maoists.

    By any chance, have you ever been abused in public by a bunch of kids? I guess you wouldn’t know the feeling unless you have been booed and abused constantly for a prolonged period.

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    Ravi Reply:

    He does that to other people.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. Abuse, label fabrication, writing nursery rhymes and attempting to sow discord – such a ‘multi-talented’ person.

  • Anonymous

    Bal Thackeray refuses to meet Anna, Chavan gives him the cold shoulder

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Maharashtra/Bal-Thackeray-refuses-to-meet-Anna/Article1-846663.aspx

    On Thursday, anti-corruption activist Anna Hazare received a mixed response to requests for meetings with political leaders as part of his campaign for a strong lokayukta in the state.

    While Sena chief Bal Thackeray refused to meet him, he got the cold shoulder from chief minister Prithviraj Chavan. Maharashtra Navnirman Sena chief Raj Thackeray extended support, and Hazare in turn praised him for holding examinations to select candidates during the February 2011 civic polls. The BJP supported him as well.

    ———

    Read on.

    He has and his team are to be blamed for their growing irrelevance.

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  • Anonymous

    Heather Timmons’ column in NYT about Sanghvi/shutting up social media..

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/26/social-media-1-indian-government-0/

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  • Anonymous

    St Columbus School in Delhi gets to particpate in automobile design contest in Detroit

    http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/26/young-and-restless-students-race-sophisticated-mini-machines-in-detroit/

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  • Anonymous

    Read the signals
    Subhomoy Bhattacharjee

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/read-the-signals/942007/0

    Excerpts

    Far from Lutyens Delhi, at the Khajuri Khas DTC bus stop near Shahdara, the most popular choice for passengers is the green air-conditioned bus. It costs 66 per cent more than it does in an ordinary low-floor bus for a trip to New Delhi station, the most common destination. But nobody minds paying on a hot April day, when the government has been hammered by international credit-rating agency, Standard & Poor’s, for going slow in carrying out reforms.
    ———

    Near the bus stop is a lane at the end of which is an LPG agency. A walk to the outlet, where young boys in grimy uniform lounge under the fan for some respite from the soaring heat, is instructive. Every 15 minutes, someone walks in to plead for a cylinder. The gas agency cannot supply one unless the customer has a licensed connection but most of the walk-ins are migrant families who have arrived in Delhi without any identification cards. A young boy takes orders from customers who have a connection, while another, standing at the door, books orders at a premium from those who don’t.
    ——–

    As the recent World Bank India Investment Update (March 2012) points out, Delhi is wasting time on pipe dreams about FDI in retail. Instead, it should work with the states to find out why, despite changing the Agricultural Produce Marketing Committee Acts, none of them have introduced the relevant rules to make the changes effective. Without these changes, no farmer can sell even to domestic retailers, bypassing mandis.

    Again, as the government cringes about how people will invade the streets on LPG prices, there is a curious development it has not even noticed. Indraprastha Gas, the joint venture between Bharat Petroleum, Gail and the Delhi government, has raised the cost of piped gas in the very same areas of East Delhi, mentioned in the beginning of the article, by close to 50 per cent over the last three years.

    None of the pipelines has been tampered with, people have not rushed to streets in protest and life goes on. The only difference is the zero irritation in getting a piped gas connection and the 100 per cent trouble in procuring an LPG cylinder.

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  • Anonymous

    Mission impossible?
    ARATI R JERATH

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12883720.cms

    Excerpts

    Three recent developments suggest that Sonia Gandhi is back in the driver’s seat in the Congress and the dawn of the Rahul era will have to wait for some time. One is the swift suspension of eight Congress MPs from the Lok Sabha for disrupting proceedings over the Telengana issue. The punishment, surprisingly harsh and definitely unusual considering MPs disrupt the House all the time, was mooted by Sonia who marched to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s Parliament House office and called for a meeting with key aides, finance minister Pranab Mukherjee and her political secretary Ahmed Patel, to discuss a strategy for implementation.

    ———–

    The reassertion of autho-rity by Sonia is the first sign that the hammering the Cong-ress took in the recent five state assembly polls has shaken mother and son out of their complacency and forced them to take a hard look at the state of play in the party and government. For the first time after their famous comeback victory in 2009, they seem to have realised that their carefully crafted succession plan has not gone as per the script and that a third term, with a smooth landing for Rahul as prime minister of a Congress majority government, is not theirs for the asking. The debacle not only exposed the pathetic state of the party organisation, it also served as a wake-up call that the time for experimentation is well past. The Congress can no longer afford to float in a leadership vacuum till the day Rahul feels he has earned his political spurs.

    ————-

    The political scenario has changed drastically since 2009 when the mother and son duo drew up the succession plan that didn’t work. Today, the main threat to the Congress is not from the BJP which, too, is in disarray. It comes from regional leaders who seem better connected to the aspirations of a country on the move. Sonia can at best do a holding operation for her son. Rahul will have to take the call for 2014.

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  • Anonymous

    At one point Vijay Malaya had piles of cash.
    Now cash has gone and only the piles remains.
    Medically this condition is called King fissure.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Wow.

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  • Anonymous

    Writings on India
    Patrick French

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/ColumnsOthers/Writings-on-India/Article1-844271.aspx

    People have always written about other countries. Early writings on the subcontinent by visitors like the 7th century Chinese Buddhist monk Xuanzang can be revealing. After discussing religion in Ayodhya, Xuanzang is sailing up the Ganga when his boat is intercepted by pirates. They decide to burn him on an altar as a sacrifice to Durga, until at the last moment he is reprieved when his assailants realise he is a famous monk and scholar. The Durga worshippers agree to release their victim, take vows as lay members of the Buddhist community and let Xuanzang go on his way.

    Four hundred years later, the Muslim scientist and historian Al-Biruni described Indian life in a way that still has a vivid resonance. He recorded the interest shown in philosophy and mathematics, observed that different communities avoided touching each other, and noted that some men wore a sacred thread “passing from the left shoulder to the right side of the waist”. Once you get to the age of empire, things become more complex: words are loaded. Although Al-Biruni could arguably be called an imperial outrider of Mahmud of Ghazni, his principle aim was discovery — he wanted to describe and understand the utterly unfamiliar.

    ———-

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan,

    this congress party of Sonia Gandhi is indeed a strange party. Its presedente has no car, but she is in the driver’s seat. The son has no clothes, but he is the yuvraj, both hold Italian passports, but never cease to dream about lording over India!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    They dream about lording over India because there are many Indians who are ready to bow in front of Rajmata and Yuvraj.

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  • Anonymous

    Actress Rekha nominated to Rajya Sabah.
    What Amitabh Bachchan could not do, congress has done.
    Rekha and Jaya Bachchan in same house finally.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    the comments in the internet show that people hate congress more than they love Sachin Tendulkar.

    Rekha and Jaya may be in the same house, but they are in different houses of their kundali.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    With you had left such an original and beautiful joke alone for all to enjoy. This was pure Nirmal Anand.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am glad that you understood the joke.

    I loved it and it instantly elicited a comment. Despite people like former justice Katju roaming this earth, opinion is still sacred in this country and comment is free.

    You too, Pathakji, may, if you can, crack jokes-real jokes, I mean- even under fake ID. I assure you, I will enjoy them.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Let Pathakji enjoy life out here. So even if you reason for suspician… Pathak (even if he is not Pathakg) is only here because he enjoys the company of people on this blog…

    So as long as there is no direct confrontation… live and let live…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree.

    “dulhan wohi jo Pathak ji dilwayen”
    “joke wohi jo Pathakji pasand karen”

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure if anybody needed to understand this joke apart from just enjoying. A classy joke does not need any explanation. Need any explanation on that? Hope you will try not to explain when you crack a joke. Or, perhaps you need to. Some people do that many a time – explain to the world that they understood the joke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Mohan, you ask any congressman, and he will tell you, this ‘chamatkar’ happened only because of the leadership of Sonia Gandhi (if you didn’t already know)!

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    The punishment perhaps was also a message to other parties too – if they disrupt the house, their MPs would be subject to the same treatment.

    Mothers will always be moms. Recall, the sound bites of Salman Khan’s mummy when he was in all sort of troubles (all of his own making). Mamma Mia.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Is this the signal or sheer frustration? When one gets scolded by his boss at his
    work place, he in turn scolds his wife and children at home.

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  • Anonymous

    “nirmal anand” as in some Rekha’s movie ?

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  • Anonymous

    Three different ID’s of the same person ?

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  • Anonymous

    Let a person have fun under different ID’s. Just proves that this blog is irressitable! Very addictive….

    I am supposed to be doing somthing deadly serious right now. Like looking at a drawing of a Schindler elevator for a hospital and then incorporating changes in the structure…

    Par Mohan’s crack on Amitabh… makes me smile.

    I am sure when he would see Rajya Sabha TV, Amitabh would have nazar on Jaya (for consumption of Abhishek, Ash and grandchildren)… nishana would be Rekha

    And he would loudly say to himself…

    “kabhi kabhi mere dil mein yeh khayal aata hai..

    Kabhi kabhi mere dil main khayal aata hain
    Ki zindagi teri zulfon ki narm chhaon main guzarne pati
    to shadab ho bhi sakti thi.

    Yeh ranj-o-gham ki siyahi jo dil pe chhayi hain
    Teri nazar ki shuaon main kho bhi sakti thi.

    Magar yeh ho na saka aur ab ye aalam hain
    Ki tu nahin, tera gham teri justjoo bhi nahin.

    Guzar rahi hain kuchh iss tarah zindagi jaise,
    isse kisi ke sahare ki aarzoo bhi nahin.

    Na koi raah, na manzil, na roshni ka suraag
    Bhatak rahin hai andheron main zindagi meri.

    Inhi andheron main reh jaoonga kabhi kho kar
    Main janta hoon meri hum-nafas, magar yoonhi
    Kabhi kabhi mere dil main khayal aata hai.

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  • Anonymous

    yeh dil maange more!

    SACHIN KA HAATH SCAM AADMI KE SAATH!!!!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    There are two parts to this. Congress needed to remove focus from the revived Bofors scam, the 350 crores kickbacks in the Italian Helicopter deal, the Manu Singhivi BJ for judgeship. By Sachin’s nomnation the headlines changed.

    Though our faithfull HT never reported Manu zingvi, 350 crore italian chopper kickback or revived Bofors scam !!

    I think they are trying to ride the luck on Scahin’s shoulders as their Yuvraj has been repeatedly bowled out fo zeroooooooooo

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    Anonymous Reply:

    VIJAY kUMAR,

    as you said, this is a clever diversionary tactic and it has worked. For today. Tomorrow is another day.

    In the NDTV poll, 80% people voted against Sachin.
    You know, now people say, he wanted a Ferrari, but didn’t want to pay the duty thereon. He has rightly joined the crowd of scamsters and sex-in-SC congresswalahs.

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  • Anonymous

    ANOTHER DIVERSIONARY TACTIC -Tehelka sting: Ex-BJP chief Bangaru Laxman convicted

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Tehelka-sting-Ex-BJP-chief-Bangaru-Laxman-convicted/Article1-846995.aspx

    Isn’t the timing a little suspicious ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Rs 350 crores kickbacks in the real defence deal of the helicopters does not even find mention in the HT.

    The huge kickbacks and links to teh royal family in Bofors being debated in Parliament does not even find mention in the HT

    Yes the FAKE commission set up by the COgnress in a makebeleive deal– where the reporter induced Laxman to accept bribe of a paltry sum less than the cost of a autorickshaw is headline news. !!

    What a joke !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    only “little” suspicious??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What’s suspicious about the timing? Did somebody rush the court to synchronise the verdict with the revelation by Deep Throat on Bofor to checkmate the BJP ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Anything against the BJP and its leadership is always full of suspicions, conspiracies, grand designs, malicious propaganda, blah, blah, blah.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Comon Pathak ji,

    Do you still seriously beleive that the NDA was nehind the Bofors scam as it did not pusue a widow and two children out of kind heartedness?

    So Rajiv G and Quatrochichi are innocent and BJP’s fake 1 lakh of Banagaru is bigger than17000000000000 + 7000000000 .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you watch, through your sleepy and teary eyes, trees and mountains running outside the train window? Kids love them. Mothers make the kids watch the running trees and mountains when they get cranky and restless.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What has Bofors got to do with the running trees and mountains ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Same for the inconsolable kids.

  • Anonymous

    MANOHAR HAS GIVEN EXCELLENT link to Aatish Taseer article on history of India
    …everyone pl u read. I like bit about Kumarsambhava

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinder

    Bhasa was one of the earliest and may be foremost playwrights in India. Kaalidasa pays respects to him (as Gurus who have come before me..) in Malavikagnimitra.

    Kaalidasa is estimated to be in 3rd-4th AD.

    Bhasa is estimated to have lived in 2bc- 2ad.

    Bhasa wrote the famous plays Swapnavasavadatta, Karna Bhara, Avimaraka (Mani KAul’s movie Cloud door was based on thi), Mrichakatika Girish Karnard movie “utsav” with Shashi KApoor/Rekha/Amjadkhan ws based on this root story) and another 10 plays..

    The manuscripts of all of Bhasa’s 14 plays were discovered in Trivandrum, Kerala about 100 years ago.

    Bhasa’s birth/creation place is speculated to be in middle India.

    If so, how did the manuscipts ended in Trivandrum? As far as I know, no research was done into this after the discovery in 1912.

    Or was Bhasa born in that region? All the Bhasa plays are “played” in “Koodiyattam”, a Sanskrit theater form, performed in Kerala area temples for the last 1400 years.

    All intriguing

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not much intriguing , when you reflect on the fact that entire upper half of india was colonised by the muslim invaders 1000yr ago. The
    south escaped , thus the manuscripts (which must have been in last 200yrs ) survived. The oral tradition prohibits anything to be written down , a point noted by Al Biruni was much dismay.
    You can read Al Biruni Al Takriti Hind in english translation on the web.
    provided courtesy of university of columbia in usa

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  • Anonymous

    Friends,
    please read my response to Ms.Arati Jerath:

    Mission impossible?
    ARATI R JERATH

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes...

    This article shows you were and still are among those who had big hopes about the dawn of “Rahul era”.

    About Sonia Gandhi, it is rather comic for you to say a lady who doesn’t even own a car, is in the driver’s seat! Most people see in the act of AP MPs’ suspension a growing desperation on her part born out of the realization that after the rebellion of Jagan Mohan Reddy (which was, understandably, underplayed by the media!), this is confirmation that she is losing touch with the politics in the country.

    Her ‘marching’ to the PM’s office too is a bit melodramatic, because the whole world knows Manmohan Singh will fall on himself and come running to her at a mere whisper by his chaprasi that “madam has summoned you”.

    The Kamaraj Plan II, in reality, was a joke played by some congressmen on the other congressmen. The country, as a whole, had hardly raised an eye brow. But, the country is really interested in knowing why there is, as you say, “mutual mistrust and suspicion between Rahul and Ahmed Patel”. I wish you had elaborated on that.

    If, by these three ‘acts’, one of which, is marching into Manmohan Singh’s office, she intends to show that she is back in the driver’s seat, then she is really a very poor driver and a still poorer leader; and her being complacent hitherto too is one more proof that she is ill-suited to the demands of the party she heads and the country she is deluding herself into believing she is leading.

    About Rahul Gandhi too, she and her party, have both shown singular lack of sure-footedness, clarity and also purposefulness on when to send Manmohan Singh packing (of course on long leave) and when to “launch” the ascension of the yuvraj to the throne.

    As a seasoned journalist and an active visitor to the TV studios, you would have by now understood that there is no “blue print for action” and an imaginary blue print has many of Kapil Sibal’s zeroes as its chances of being put into “action”.

    And, Ms Jerath, you are investing a lot-beyond belief, in fact- of your own credibility-into Sonia Gandhi’s capacity to rejuvenate her party, set the government on performing mode, win state elections(!) and to get Rahul Gandhi to agree to become the PM.

    However, you are surely in a position to suggest to both mother and son that a start can be made by their facing the media for a change instead of hiding from it, because it amounts to hiding from the people who have scores of questions that need answers, particularly from the mother.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Many of the so-called ministers who were rumoured to spearhead the “Kamraj Plan” have stated they will continue in the ministry …

    Hoever, the weaknesses of the dynasty and its party will only add just a “delta” (even that is questionable) to BJP unless BJP gets its act, vision, bench in order. With the CM of Goa and Modi, they should project a “can do” mode, that clean administrations can deliver etc etc

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  • Anonymous

    NY businessman Edmonds Allen hands over to Prashant Bhushan droves of documents related to corruption in defence procurement, his relation with the dealer Abhishek Varma, etc

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/new-york-businessman-alleges-corruption-in-indian-defense-deals/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let’s hope that one of the TV channels follows this story and makes it big enough for some action to be taken. As the article suggests, Mr. Allen’s willingness to inform various departments and authorities regarding this did not fetch any results.

    Thanks Mr. Hegde.

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  • Anonymous

    M J Akbar says:

    In both China and India, the political class has watched wealth being created at an unprecedented pace, to an unimaginable extent, and decided that it wants its share. The system is silent because it is complicit. It began with officials being on the take; they are now on the make, as never before.

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-editorial-director-m-j-akbar-on-india-china-corruption/1/186307.html

    Bottomline: If everyone is a crook, no one is guilty.

    Interesting read.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Iswhwar

    I think the BoXilai arrest/Heywood murder in Chingqing province has sent a shock wave.

    Looks like Chinese people have “risen” in spite of the authorities cracking down on internet/social media (sound familiar?)

    The BoXilai/his wife arrest may be a turning point.

    I have always maintained my theory about India – politicians’ corruption is nothing compared to the bureaucracy’s – in fact it is the clever IAS guys who show the path to money to many a politician. Dismantle many departments, privatize.. Explore how countries like US does its government administrative operations. Pick and choose a coupe, of best practices from all over.. The left over British administrative system is the number one facilitator of corruption here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar-
    An interesting article in today’s NY Times about the guy Akbar mentioned.. written by one who knows him– his personal experience with the guy, bizzare situation in China, how he made use of Mao’s red songs ..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/opinion/life-in-china-is-stranger-than-my-fiction.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks again Mr. Hegde.

    Brilliantly written piece. Thank God, I was born in India – all the growth story in China looks good on paper. Life of ordinary men is much better here.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    Gr8 article. But haveing done a fair bit of China… I can say that corruption out there is hidden and not like India where everyone does it openly.

    Secondly despite corruption they have solved their basic housing and infrastructre problems. The citeis and viallages are CLEAN. I did come across a few corrupt chinese officers. but they would all look over their shoulder, make sure nobody was around then ask for somehting.

    Surprisingly despite the one child norm, many had a mysterious brother or brother in law who could get things done afet taking money…

    But… Nobody does it openly. No Bofors, No lalu, No 3G, No chori all around…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    A good article. In the end MJ Akbar writes that in China it is dificult to get away with
    murder, but how about here, is it dificult or people with connection do get away with murder easily?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    good point.

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  • Anonymous

    Accept whatever is written in your destiny…!
    DON’T FORCE CHANGE…

    Death came to a guy and said, “My friend today is your day” !
    Guy:- “But I’m not ready!”.
    Then death said, “Well your name is the next on my list…”.
    Guy:- “Okay, why don’t you take a seat and I will get you something to eat before we go?”.
    Then death said, “All right. ”
    The guy gave death some food with sleeping pills in it, Death finished eating and fell into a deep sleep. The guy took the list & removed his name from top of the list and put into the bottom of the list. When death woke up he said to the guy, “Because you have been so very nice to me, I will start from the BOTTOM of the list.”
    Lesson for the day…
    Accept whatever is written in your destiny…!
    It Will never change no matter how much you try.

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  • Anonymous

    Tamil Nadu woman stars in satellite launch

    http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/article3357654.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    As India’s first indigenously-developed Radar Imaging Satellite RISAT-1 nestled in its orbit hundreds of kilometres above the earth, here on terra firma, the woman from Tamil Nadu, responsible for the feat, too, turned into a star in her own right.

    N. Valarmathi, ISRO’s Bangalore-based Project Director for the space mission, was hounded by journalists and television crews, immediately after the post-launch press conference convened by the ISRO Chairman K. Radhakrishnan, and his colleagues heading various centres, concluded.

    For the next hour or so, Ms. Valarmathi was cordoned off by a media sold on celebrating her rise from her humble Ariyalur origins, to head one of ISRO’s flagship satellite launches. The quizzing covered various aspects, from the technological prowess of RISAT-1, to her school days in Ariyalur.

    ———–

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Abhishek Manu Zingvi has a lot of spare time on his hands and no work.

    But his mind is working at a furious pace.

    He is reported to be writing the modern version of MANU SMRITI.
    This book is a quickie, (just about 125 pages) in two parts, the second part containing his thoughts on Abhinava Kamasutra.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Frankly Singvhi probably got a boomrang from God for shouting out at the BJP on the fake Gujarat assembly porn scam.e should have remembered that his own father LM Singhvi was a BJP ,member and had been favoured as India’s high commissioner and was also trying his chances thru the BJP to become the President.

    Surprisingly Sanjay Dhawan ji who had gone into such detail on how the non existent Gujarat porn scam had resulted in parents preventing children from buying computers is silent and probably reading this and smiling.

    I wonder what happens to the CD industry now. Will parents prevent children from buying CD’s? Will the sales drop… because of Congressi kokshastra and people go unemployed and die of hunger? Will people now not send their daughters to lawyers chambers?

    Will the women of India get scared that predators are waiting in garb of kaala coat…?

    I wish Sanjayji would answer this for me…

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Zingvi and Congress should not forget that Jailtey was a good friend of his father and so he has been let of lightly.

    In case a BJP member had been caught in such a manner… Digviansh and Rahulg would have done a Salsa in India gate.

    As it is misusing court premises for fornification is a moral crime. And felatio is still a crime under the unnatural sex act. We the people of India are not pursuing the course as we dont want to anger the souls of great Congressi lawyers like Gandhi, nehru and Patel and Rajaji.

    Imagine Zingvi probably had some of the photos of these people in the very chamber, where he was doing yaun shoshan…

    Kya ho gaya hai, sabarmati ke sant ki Congress ko…?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Everyone

    The worst news for the COngress may be around the corner. Bofors style dalali in various defence deals.

    Binoy has mentioned a link of Shrikant Varma (Congress MP) and his son Abhishek Varma. Well the documents of variosu dalaali has been given to Prashant Bhushan.

    As per Indian express reports the new york based lawyer has also met rahul gandhi along with Abhishek. now what role does a common MP like rahul have to do in defence deals?

    Similarly allegations have been made against SM Krishana.

    Prashant Bhushan wont sit quiet…

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  • Anonymous

    You are right. The top maoist leaders tend to keep things hot and alive through these means. That’s why a direct communication through TV channels ( distribute TV’s free ) would be effective.

    Centre – vs – States in the name of federalism : This will spiral into a dangerous proportion. Had Omar, CM of J&K talked in these lines, BJP would have branded him as an anti-National. Infact, J7K and North East are silent now and would pursue this idea vigorously once BJP & Co. make it politically acceptable.

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar
    Rupee already 4% down this month (vis-a-vis dollar).
    Equity flows in April at $172 MM compared to $5billion in Feb.
    FDI in 2011 only at $27.5Billion

    Solution???? improving economy/credible govt policy/response…. both zilch
    High inflation, lower growth, land purchase issues, opaque tax rules, retroactive taxation to 50 yrs ago…

    What gives? What takes?

    Will we have a jasmine revolution?

    Good nighht

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  • Pankaj#1

    Fiends;
    Situation is getting from bad to worse. Feeling exasparated, that is Indian public.
    Such situation, when came to two physicians, their reactions:
    - when a vet. received a call about 10.30 or 11 in night, very reluctantly picked the phone. On the otherside, a regular client, with two small dogs, was there, hence he had to listen. old lady: Doctor, my two wee dogs are stuck together and not getting separated, what I should do? Vet.: Throw a bucket of water, tried that, said old lady. Hmmm, Flash a torch light in their eyes, tried that too. In EXASPERATION, Vet. make a phone call, hey doc. are you sure this will work?? Not sure, but it may work, as it has worked with me.

    - Paediatrician, receiving that same 11 pm call from a young mother. Doctor, my toddler son has drank some beer from the bottle, which was left there by his father. What should I do? try to make him vomit, said doctor. Tried that, said the mother, make him lie on left hand side, this may encourage him to throw out beer. tried that too. in EXASPERATION, doctor- give him some potato chips.

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  • Anonymous

    National Interest: With prejudice
    Shekhar Gupta

    By giving communal twist to naming of next Army chief, PIL tried to revive fears long buried — until apex court threw it out

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-with-prejudice/942607/0

    By 1983-84, Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale had perfected his sharp narrative of discrimination against the Sikhs. A key element was the “Indian” (read Hindu) lack of gratitude for the sacrifices the Sikhs had made for them in the battlefield. The “evidence” was a “well laid out” conspiracy to ensure no Sikh ever rose to be the Chief of Army Staff (COAS) even though the Indian Army “couldn’t last a day in a war without its Sikhs”. He had his homework done. Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora liberated Bangladesh for us, but was not made the chief. Major General Shabeg Singh raised and trained the Mukti Bahini but, rather than being sent even a little thank-you note, was victimised “only because he was a Sikh”. So Shabeg Singh now sat at his feet in the Akal Takht, the supreme religious and temporal seat of Sikhism that Bhindranwale had made his home in Amritsar’s Golden Temple, raising and training his army of the faithful.

    —————

    That is why a PIL filed by a group of prominent citizens against the elevation of the next chief, Lieutenant General Bikram Singh, needs close reading. And even though it has been dismissed by a wonderfully liberal and wise Supreme Court within hours, we need to discuss and debate it. And worry about it.

    Because the central premise of the PIL is not the alleged fake encounter etc, that Bikram Singh was said to be involved in. It is, most shockingly, that his elevation was somehow plotted and preordained through a Sikh conspiracy at the very top, starting with General J.J. Singh. As government lawyers underlined in the SC, while dismissing it as a “communal sideshow”, it mentions such utterly communalist slurs as “langar talk”, “orders from above”, insinuates involvement of the “Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC)” etc. Please do read the full text of the PIL (tinyurl.com/ d96ueo6), specially paras 2.10, 2.11-2.25, 2.36, 2.37, and it may embarrass you as a modern, patriotic Indian.

    —————

    Now, what is this “orders from above” business? Let us stop pussyfooting around this. Also, because there’s been plenty of vicious whispering on this in the preceding months during which, as Attorney General Goolam Vahanvati rightly told the SC, the army “has been through a lot.” You can call Dr Manmohan Singh anything you want. You can even choose your favourite abuse because he is, after all, in public life, and at the very top. Or you can call him weak, silent, apolitical, whatever. But there are things you can never call him: corrupt, lacking in intellect, unpatriotic and most, most certainly you can never call him communal. That is why India owes the Supreme Court a debt of gratitude, for not dignifying this with any further discussion or argument. And that is why we need to read, discuss and debate what brought us to such an unfortunate pass.

    ———–

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  • Anonymous

    Permanent Indian judge at ICJ after 21 years

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/permanent-indian-judge-at-icj-after-21-years/942619/

    Supreme Court Judge Justice Dalveer Bhandari on Friday became the second Indian in over two decades to be elected as Permanent Judge of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), a position based at The Hague, Netherlands.

    Justice Bhandari, expected to resign from his SC post before his scheduled retirement on September 30, is the first Indian in 21 years to get a permanent term at the ICJ, with the last one being Justice R S Pathak.

    ———–

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Pathak G

    I have to teach math to my 8 yr old nephew on Sunday.

    Sir, Sir, please can you help me with a question which my nephew asks and I get perplexed.

    What is bigger

    1 lakh .> 1,7000000 lkhs (2g) + 70,000,00 lakhs (cwg) + 350000 lakhs (helicpoter) + 600000 lakhs (Tatra)

    Sir, my innocent nephew feels lost because of news headlines…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps you plan to raise your nephew as another inconsolable kid. Not a bad idea. Then nobody can be differentiated in the family. Take him on a drive and show him the running trees on the highway, he will stop being perplexed. Getting the logic right is the first step to solving the math puzzle.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you sir.

    I will pass on the answer to him. As children are brighter than adults… I am sure he will solve the puzzle with this answer…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope your surety has some lasting values! Days/hours ?

  • Anonymous

    Our building’s watchman drinks on duty because he was told that security
    has to be ‘tight’ .

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  • Anonymous

    Patel-wary Modi dons OBC hat

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Patel-wary-Modi-dons-OBC-hat/articleshow/12903552.cms

    Soon after Narendra Modi was featured on the cover of Time magazine last month, his media managers went into overdrive saying the Gujarat chief minister was the first Indian OBC leader to get this distinction.

    Surprising this from a former poster-boy of Hindutva who has shunned the caste tag for wider acceptance in the majority community.

    ————-

    In the past few weeks, Modi has addressed half a dozen OBC gatherings – including Thakor, Koli, Choudhary, Rawal Yogi, Prajapati, Soni and other sub-sections. Though he has also been to Patel and Brahmin gatherings, Modi has attended maximum OBC and Dalit mass-marriages this season.

    At almost every gathering, he has targeted the UPA government for slashing the OBC reservation quota. For the sake of ‘Sadbhavana’, he, however, doesn’t mention this because of 4.5% reservation for Muslims.

    ———–

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  • Anonymous

    Now IMF also says that they are concerned about non governance in India.
    I was just new listening to Mr. Sunil Mittal of Bharti Enterprises, he was say thing
    while environment in other countries for doing business is of hope, in India it
    is of despair.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Also read Sunil’s last two interviews on this subject. He pleaded the Govt. to be allowed to work.

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  • Anonymous

    Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and Rajaji were all great lawyers
    their party, sadly, has most leaders who are big liars

    Manu Zingvi defiled supreme court with his fornication
    Gandhi might well have said,’this party is beyond identification.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Applause and Bharat ratna !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow.

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  • Anonymous

    Tatra sold obsolete trucks’

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Tatra-sold-obsolete-trucks/articleshow/12904148.cms

    Whenever bribe is involved in government orders, not only the price paid is more then
    the market prices but the goods received are also of low quality because supplier
    knows that he can easily get away by supplying sub standard goods.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Saraswat said the Tatra trucks, which have become controversial following Army Chief Gen V K Singh’s bribery allegations, have been in use since 1986, and DRDO has never had a problem with them. He disclosed that India’s wheel mounted strategic defence too is based on Tatra systems. “For strategic deterrence, we have rail systems and we have wheel based systems. Whereever we have wheeled systems, it is Tatra,” Saraswat said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    DRDO has never had any problem with that ? When someone is using brass and he
    does not know that gold is available at the same price or perhaps cheaper, then
    maximum he can be blamed is for his ignorance only.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for telling us how dumb our top scientists are. How internet/newspaper-illilterate they are.This guy must be stealing Agni V technology from Pakistan to cover his level of ignorance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak

    You only comment on what people write or you take some pain to read the link
    to the news article provided.

    ” The ‘air cooled’ engines are low on power and have poor mileage. “Nobody seemed to have bothered about the technological transformations that have taken place in the automobile industry,” an officer said about the fact that Army continues to use the same T-815 trucks even today. The T-815 trucks are fuel guzzlers. A truck that can carry 12 tonnes runs just 4 km on a liter of fuel. A source pointed out that Tatra’s more advanced vehicles were far superior. “But we seem to have been a dumpyard for old vehicles,” he said. “

    Anonymous Reply:

    I definitely comment what intelligent people write. I presume they write after reading their own link.

    Are we going to discuss the technical spec debate between Air and Oil cooled engines ?

    The need is an all terrain vehicle. India has a huge border line running through plain, deserts, high altitude mountains where one does not find a service centre for hundreds of miles. One needs a truck that’s easy to maintain anywhere, anytime. Air cooled engines are easy to maintain. Infactthey have been reliable in many applications.
    Air cooled engine does not mean it’s a substandard product. Tatra’s variable axle makes it hugely reliable in any type of terrain. Did your article sing praise in favour of Tatra’s variable length axle? Did the article talk about presence of liquid cooled engines in Tatra? The order is placed on the manufacturer. The manufacturer does not supply on its own. Did V K Singh recommend “Ural Trucks” after he tried out while he was in eastern command? Did V K Singh file a detailed ‘user report after his unauthorised testing of “Ural Trucks”?Did he raise the objection and create noise about the quality of Tatra Trucks years before? Or, was he waiting to be the COAS to do this? Or, was he waiting for his final date of the retirement?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    In a very simple language are you trying to say the that article in TOI is
    wrong, military did not buy obsolete
    trucks when better quality trucks were
    available in the market as the article claims?

    Anonymous Reply:

    One brand vs another. TOI is writing on the basis of what V. K Singh is telling the world.There are procedure I am sure people followed. They might not have retendered. Ural Truck has been trying to make an entry, Tatra has been trying to hold the position. Tatra might have used 2nd rung officers to hold into its position, Ural is using a person no less than COAS to make an entry. It’s just a commercial fight with a nationalist flavour.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Going by whatever little info is available, one can say whatever price we paid we got the product as promised.
    Perhaps also the better quality vehicles would have been more expensive, I am only guessing.

    The point is did we get what was promised at the price we agreed to?

    Remember, Tatra is 150+ year old company, it will not spoil its reputation by playing dirty with one country.

    If a 50 year old vehicle serves its purpose with hardly any extra maintenance cost, what is so obsolete about it?
    Are we supposed to just throw the whole lot away and get a brand new ones? Don’t the aurlines use aircraft for up to 20+ years – though latest models with better technology available within 2 or 3 years of its launch?

  • Anonymous

    National Interest: With prejudice
    Shekhar Gupta

    By giving communal twist to naming of next Army chief, PIL tried to revive fears long buried — until apex court threw it out…………………

    @ Manohar

    You can not say the gentlemen who filed this petition were not honourable men. Can you?

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  • Anonymous

    You must read the PIL to know whether it was against Bikram Singh or for V K Singh. There is every reason to debate it.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The time to debate was before the verdict. Why did Sekar keep quiet?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good people do not discuss things which are under active court’s jurisdiction and sub-justice.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Give me a break

    Anonymous Reply:

    This summer or next?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi …Shekhar Gupta and his paper is yet to express regret over his earlier cover page mischievous story . Just like the the Hindustan Times and the senior journalist who carried the false story on Shanti Bhushan’s CD is yet to apologiose for it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shekhar Gupta is one hell of an arrogant editor with a hugely bloated ego. He and apologise?

    NEVER.

  • Anonymous

    Two interesting excerpts from the articles of two respected media persons.

    This what Pramit Pal Chaudhri wrote in his latest blog and this what many of us have been saying since long.
    _____________

    “ Two, the political system cannot be in worse shape. There isn’t unrest on the streets and so on. But the ability of the government to do anything seems to receding almost monthly. The Manmohan Singh government spends its time mainly finding reasons why it can’t do. From what I gather, the core problem is not Mamata Banerjee or Sonia Gandhi or the Comptroller Auditor General. The higher-up you go and the finger is pointed at Prime Minister Singh himself as the biggest obstacle in the road. ”

    ______________

    APR 26, 9:46:26 PM | BUZZ
    In light of the Sten Lindstrom interview to Chitra Subramaniam-Duella, Seema Mustafa recalls in the Hardnews:

    In 2004, when I asked Lindstrom to name some of the living persons who had full details of the Bofors kickbacks, he responded without hesitation, “Martin Ardbo, Ottavio Quatrrocchi and Sonia Gandhi.”
    He added, “I have never said this before” and went on to point towards the connections between then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi and his wife Sonia Gandhi. This columnist incidentally had interviewed Quattrocchi several times in the past, and he had never really bothered hiding his friendship with Sonia Gandhi. That he was a security cleared visitor to the prime minister’s residence at the time was a well known secret.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 info Parveen. Seema is a geat journalist and has done extremely good work,

    it seems that the net is getting closer and closer to the sanctum santuram of Bofors kickbacks.

    What say, Sanjay, PathakG and VInodji???

    Time for Bangaru Bangaru Lakh lakh or Modi Modi rpae rape??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Take a window side seat on the EMU .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you. But please remember Vajpayee ji was kind to a widow and two children. But today the mood of the nation is different. Lagata hai Bofors ka chor mil hi jayega…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Also keep a bottle of Mineral Water to wash your eyes every now and then. Delhi’s stench laden dust can have a telling effect on our smile, even by the window side.

    Anonymous Reply:

    have never lost my smile… even when walking through garbage…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Long Experience shows.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen-

    I do not understand. Couldn’t Congress then replace Dr Singh? They know they will lose big in the next election if these problems continue.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Binoy

    Pramit Pal may be trying to refurbish Sonia and Rahul’s image as all HT journos are sold on to the dynasty.

    The problem is very obvious to a dispassionate observer. Things were moving fine n India till the Obama visit. However subsequenlty Rahul G and Digviansh ji were unleasehd onto India by Sonia G. Like a true Mother she watched indulgently as trolls in the COngress and tollish journalists started shouting that the time for MMS was over and youg blood needed to take over.

    Thye demolished their own government. MMS is probably sore that he was been insulted so badly that he probably just does not care.

    If today Rahul G annonce retirement, apart form some trolls, most of India would soon discover that we can go back to 10% growth. And that we have become a mature democracy and no longer remain a NAUKERCY in the mould of Paksitan and Saudia and North Korea worshipping families.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, you may be right here.

    I have a strong hunch that Kaushik Basu, the PM’s economic advisor, was sent to Cornell Unioversity by Manmohan Singh himself to announce to the world that reforms are over for India now and they can or may start somewhere after 2014.

    It is his way of getting back at DigvinashG, RahulG, SoniaG (and now PathakG).

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘…we can go back to 10% growth…..’

    Which year was that?

    Anonymous Reply:

    As soon as we are able to or are wise enough to overthrow the mother-son team and their fellow looters, which will be soon.

    Anonymous Reply:

    come September?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    ‘ Manmohan singh government spends its time mainly finding reasons why it can’t do’
    Perfect description of this government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One more ‘reason’ why we need to have general elections now and not in 2014.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, Mohan, we must somehow see that this government breathes till the beginning of 2014. If it is dislodged now or in a few months, there is still a chance that the congress will cry foul and try to get sympathy votes from its ever-willing vote banks.

    RTHAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A repeat of Nehru-Edwina liaison?

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  • Anonymous

    Congress is bad
    BJp bad
    Modi bad
    Mamta bad
    Vilasrao bad
    Karuna bad
    Badal bad
    Sibal bad
    Kurshid bad
    PC bad
    eta l
    Jaya bad
    ditto all states..–
    Jagan bad
    ditto all state opposition leaders
    —— -
    ————
    Judges bad…..
    ——-
    ………
    CBI bad or in somebodys pocket…

    defence procurement bad….

    universities bad

    time to wear suicide vest ….why are we blaming Maoists..

    —–
    ——

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    Anonymous Reply:

    if the suicide vest turns out to be another “Akash”, you will go straight to akash, non-stop.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A good one!

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  • Anonymous

    Ok –here is the NYT column on “Aakash” the el cheapo laptop…note her observation “the news conference was success” ..you guys have too much hoopla..

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/the-tangled-tale-of-aakash-the-wo

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hamara Bharat Mahan.

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  • Anonymous

    What is the problem, if the matter (and the PIL) is discussed after the court verdict?

    Don’t we discuss other cases, once the judgment has been handed down? Aren’t we a free country to discuss anything under the sun?

    Shekhar Gupta and other media were wise enough not to muddy the waters before the Supreme Court considered it. Nor they had access to the relevant Government files and documents.

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  • Anonymous

    Viju

    Here comes another ‘naukar” success story. CK Jaffer Sheriff, who was once rewarded with railway ministership (for being Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi’s driver), is going to be rewarded once more.

    Local news here reports that he will be the new Governor (Kerala). The most literate state deserves a 80 year old driver! (work is worship, nothing against the driver)

    Loyalty has its rewards….. Sometimes it goes on giving in this wonderful democracy of ours.

    Looks like Shrimati Gandhi’s long time assistant Dhawan also will be given a Governorship (in fact I am wondering why it took so long for him!)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the search is on for perfect “naukers.’

    After teh Bofors kickback story came in in 1987, Rajiv Gandhi quickly bought back in the disgraced R K Dhawan who had almost been accused plotting Mrs Gandhi’s killing by a madcap over loyal judge!

    Now that Bofors chori issue is back, loyal servants are required for protection.

    Jaffer Sharieff is a lover of dynasties. In fact he is in the process of starting his own and has clled ofr giving Lok Sabha tickets to his grand children in the same mould as the Royal family. His famous words quoting an old article

    This policy of children inheriting constitiuencies should be followed at the national level,” Jaffer has said, hinting at you-know-who.

    “If a farmer wants his son to be a farmer, a doctor wants his son to be a doctor, and an engineer wants his son to be an engineer, what is wrong if a politician also wants his son to follow in his footsteps? The only sin he has committed is that he is a politician. Only those who have worked in the constituency and have credibility among the people ask for tickets.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay, Gopi -

    Jaffer is bad news. He was the king of Bangalore North constituency, won 7 times.

    He has been creating communal challenges ever since he lost ten plus years ago. He was the prime person who organized a march in early 2007 to protest against the hanging of Sadam Hussain. This march turned into riots causing several deaths and lots of destruction. He wanted to show Congress that he has a power base and he cannot be marginalized.

    Mr Shenoy may be able to throw light on the mafia he controls, lands and buildings he and his three generations own, his KSA connection.

    I hope the governorship is just a rumour. People should be packed off after 70.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Congress is going lower and lower in its standards as it seeks to create an army of loyalists…

    Anonymous Reply:

    and doubting the loyalty of the army!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    much of what you have said is true. Unfortunately, Shareef is prone to play the communal card at the slightest hint of challenge to his fiefdom. Yet he has been dislodged from his perch, by rank outsiders from the BJP.

    Now he is a flat tyre, without any hope of being resurrected in the state politics. Therefore, if the news is true, it is oxygen to his air-starved lungs.

    He and his large family hold lacs of sq.ft prime properties in Bangalore. He also runs several educational institutions.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    What is taught in these educational institutes ? Protests, riots, destruction of
    public properties and may be communalism ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Does a protitute also want her daughter to become a prostitute?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    You mean to say that politicians are prostitutes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Maine aisa toh nahin kaha tha.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Yes you did not say that, I misunderstood.
    Actually prostitutes are any time better then
    politicians, while prostitutes sell their own
    body where as politicians sell their country
    for their benifit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And some politicians reduce respectable ladies to the level of prostitutes with their talent for sexual exploitation.

    SEEDI SI BAAT.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Were you as verbose with your partner?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Even better than Modi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    They both are social.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    a slight correction is called for.

    Jaffer Sharreef was the driver of Nijalingappa, the then congress president.
    Those days, the so called Syndicate were planning to overthrow Indira Gandhi and install one of their own as the PM. Jaffewr Shareef, who had heard the entire conspiracy, reported the same to Indira Gandhi, as a faithful ‘naukar’ and Indira lost no time in hitting the syndicate back with enough fire power to fell them and captured the party appararus.

    And Jaffer Shareef was rewarded with huge gifts.

    The rest is HISTORY in capitals.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    I do not agree. There should certain tings in the public domain and transparent, so there is less chances of hanky-panky. What should and how much must depend keeping the secrecy needed for security and for strategic reasons.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We become a laughing stock when silly things like chief’s YOB issue and shortage of am munitions are discussed in public. It’s bad for the moral.

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  • Anonymous

    I just came cross some postings in the internet about Sachin’s wife being a Christian. The well oiled machinery is already on the job. How long will it take to reach this blog?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I also came across a post saying that Ambika Soni, Sonia Gandhi’s Goebbels, is a Christian. PathakGji, is it true?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When are you starting the discussion about the religion of Sachin’s wife?

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  • Anonymous

    In the final World Cup match against Australia he was definitely overwhelmed. Rarely any other time.

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  • Anonymous

    Akash Tablet :

    The major fault lies with Prof Kalra, IIT Rajasthan. He did not setup the testing lab, detailed specs for the tablet. One must be clear what to expect from a $50 tablet. The tablet was designed keeping the price point in mind.

    Tuli, the owner of the Datawind was also trying “play topi”. He got it manufactured by Quad but did not lift the goods.

    Heating up is not such a big deal. Even IPAD III had such issues. Not having a proper lab was a major problem.

    Then everybody was trying to take the credit in the beginning. Till today we are not sure who really has the IP rights of this tablet. Datawind or IIT, Rajasthan.

    We believe the Akash II tablet is being manufactured under the supervision of IIT, Mumbai.
    I

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  • Anonymous

    Meanwhile, I learn from the Business Standard columnist, Aditi Phadnis, that the Dalit Hakk Rakshak Manch, “a newly registered organization, devoted to fight for the rights of dalits and other marginalized”, has invoked various sections of the Protection of Civil Rights Act, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities)

    Act, and the Indian Penal Code against Tarun Amrutlal Sheth, editor, printer, publisher and owner of Rakhewal, a daily in Gujarat’s Banskantha district. The excerpt from Sheth’s article I saw blamed the government’s reservation policy for the new crop of teachers who cannot match the rishis, munis and Brahmins who once taught the young good behaviour (sadachar) in forest schools (tapovan). The DHRM also wants Sanjay Vora (who writes in the Gujarat Samachar as Suparshwa Mehta) to be a co-accused. Sheth’s bail application claims Vora provided some of his material.

    Mera Gujrat Mahan or mera bharat Mahan
    NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE AL BIRUNI MADE THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATION
    After the Śûdra follow the people called Antyaja, who render various kinds of services, who are not reckoned amongst any caste, but only as members of a certain craft or profession. There are eight classes of them, who freely intermarry with each other, except the fuller, shoemaker, and weaver, for no others would condescend to have anything to do with them. These eight guilds are the fuller, shoemaker, juggler, the basket and shield maker, the sailor, fisherman, the hunter of wild animals and of birds, and the weaver. The four castes do not live together with them in one and the same place. These guilds live near the villages and towns of the four castes, but outside them.

    The people called Hâḍî, Ḍoma (Ḍomba), Caṇḍâla, and Badhatau (sic) are not reckoned amongst any caste or guild. They are occupied with dirty work, like the cleansing of the villages and other services. They are considered as one sole class, and distinguished only by their occupations. In fact, they are considered like illegitimate children; for according to general opinion they descend from a Śûdra father and a Brâhmaṇî mother as the children of fornication; therefore they are degraded outcasts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In many parts of the country, the narrative is still true even today.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay Kumar,

    Beautifully put. Yesterday, I had said, “People hate congress more than they love Sachin”. NDTV poll proves it.

    Remember, just a few days ago, the whole world applauded and cheered the same Sachin when he scored that much-elusive, long delayed 100th century. Now nobody can say that people are biased against Sachin or that they are jealous.

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  • Anonymous

    People freely discussed in newspapers, on TV, on the internet and everywhere the issue of the army chief’s age even before the supreme court gave its verdict.

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  • Anonymous

    Rahul Gandhi , a MP, visits Satar, MH. The whole entourage of CM, other ministers, officials accompany him for visit with villagers…and Hindustan Times publish those pics in their photo gallery!

    I will appreciate input from lawyers on this blog – can the state govt undertake these types of expenditures for an MP or for a party official? Should the central govt bear the
    expense of his security when he visits willy nelly anywhere?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Can?
    What can or can not be possible in India?
    The very question reflects a serious nativity on your part.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak Gji,

    why do I get the feeling that censorship is back, though a bit surreptitiously?

    My post of a few minutes back, on the ‘G’ thing has disappeared!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very sad to know hat you lost your G spot. They have been working so hard to find the mysterious G spot and you lose yours so casually! Be careful with your G spot.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can ask Manu Zingvi about the G-string and how it can be removed in a jiffy, even inside the supreme court of India.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Surely that depends upon if the visit is in reponse to an invitation or not.

    In any case how would any one know as to whose money (state, Central Gov, Political Party or Personal is being used). Are you suggesting that what ever the case this amounts to abuse.

    I thought you were above that sort of cynical politics, may be I am wrong.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Gopi

    But I would give the nobel prize for sycophancy to NDTV. They had that 70% frame of Rahul Gandhi smiling with small dwarfish Indian cricket team occupying 30% of the picture.

    India wins world cup under the gaze of of the benevelont dunce prince… !! :)

    My dad tells me that the record of the Hindustan Times was particularly bad during the Emergency. When Sanjay Gandhi scratched his head… it was the main headline.

    When Mrs gandhi announced that she does nto beleive in dynasty and Sanjay was just “helping’ the youth of India, it was the headline of the lower half of the front page.

    Bass !! Poora paper… Dynasty ko salute karta thaa…

    Today has anythign changed???

    VINODJI… WE THE BLOGGERS AT YOUR SITE REQUEST YOU TO BECOME THE AGENT VINOD OF CHANGE AND STOP SYCOPHANCY OF DYNASTY… sir, do you want to make India join North korea, Somalia, Saudia, Pakistan, Cuba??/

    Or you want India to be with

    US, UK, France, Australia, Russia, even Sri Lanka and South Africa/…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “When Sanjay Gandhi scratched his head… it was the main headline.”

    And when Sanjay Gandhi scratched his balls, a thousand hands moved from their type writers to their crotch.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Gr8 one !!

    I must tell you what my Hind teacher told me… a true story, 25 years after Sanjay gandhi left school– the same school where I had studied..

    Mr yadav, the Hindi teacher pulled Sanjay Gandhi’s ears for cheating in a examination.

    Sanjay just went to the school reception, dialled a few numbers. In ten minutes the Information Minister, daughter of nehru and later to become the PM– Indira was standing at the teacher’s desk.

    “Apologise to my son,” she told him, “he is a tender boy…”

    Now this Yadav, the teacher, was a likeable rustic in a school full of hifi Indian and irish, british and American teachers.

    “Madamji… tender hai…abhi nahin samjhaoge toh phool ki jagah cactus ban jayega…” Yadav told her and explained that Sanjay was caught cheating.

    Indira understood. Sanjay probably did not. And did make a mockery of the teacher many a time later in class.

    Well boys will be boys . You can say that. maybe Sanjay was a hard nut. Though years later, yadav told us, Sanjay called him during 1980, just before his untimely death to tell him that, ” I have still not forgotten your thappad… but now I dont have anger against you…”

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    lovely rendering.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    At least Sanjay Gandhi realized, but I have noticed in my life that most of the people
    never realize and if some of them do, they never admit.
    By the way as Pankaj said, lovely rendering.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    My connection to HT goes to days back, when this paper was established by Swami Shradhhanand. A very nationalist paper, gone to….many of the illustrious and not so illustrious Editors might have been contemporary of my father, who was a product of school of Jouranilism in Lahore of prepartitioned India.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    nice to know that. So you father too was a jounralist and maybe that gets you to the blog here !

    I know that HT does have good journos too.

    BG Verghese and even our Vindo Sharma — as long as Congress is not involved.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    it is great to know that you have close ties to the profession of journalism. And it must really hurt you like it does to some of us here, that Hindustan Times, a great institution in its own right, should act like a hand maid of the congress party and its presidente, Senora Antonia Edvige Albina Maino.

    Ravi Reply:

    When Mohan Bhagwat causes a flutter in his tight lungoat by some backdraft, a storm rages for days in the BJP.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    O u r back.. got bored of being mangala?

    Ravi Reply:

    I thought you had me in mind when I read that.

    Mohan, please take note.

    Do continue your research for your next book, the dust bins in Ansari Road still have room for manuscripts from delusional individuals.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    My current publisher will be on charring cross road .. UK, my agent tells me..

    U can check the dustbins there :)

    Ravi Reply:

    Don’t you worry; that is not far from Soho where some of your girlfriends have written in large neon lights, tales of your inadequacies.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Wow !! lagata hai Engrich ke saath Tora bora mein honeymoon ke baad you have come here full battery discharged :)

    Or has Paksitan expelling Osama’s wives sent you to riyadh?

    Ravi Reply:

    Not really I was inspired by you rejuvenating yourself by sucking up to BV Shenoy

    Anonymous Reply:

    ’sucking up’ !!

    Now that is something.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    well you have Ravi;s cover now.

    Remember last time 4 against 1 sent all four back injured. Two disappeared from the blog :)

    Ravi Reply:

    Only possible because BVS is always standing on his soap box

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I am sure after studyign Manu singhvi’s CD many Congressis start jumping at the thought of sucking up :)

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Well you seriosly confessed on this blog that you were gobbing on Engrich’s phallus in a London gutter.

    I hope u did not bite.

    I think you should arise from teh gutter mentality and look at life positively

    Ravi Reply:

    You are imagining. I said I was giving BJs from the gutter…which by the way was first intitated by Rajeev Snake up his arse and then endorsed by you. Because neither of you have anything better to say than to indulge in personal abuse.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak ji says, “interesting observation”.

    Naturally, Pathakji, Fake identities and nakli chehre, should interest you more than anybody else!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I think Sanjay, Pathak, Devdutt and Mangalam all are one person.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting observation.

    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay thinks I am Mangalam.

    It is funny, Shenoy and his cronies think Ravi is a FAKE name, so if Mangalam was me, then is that my true identity and is Fake of a Fake.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do I need to argue my case?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    You can if you want to remove the doubt or you can just chose to ignore.
    Your choice.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    With all due respect to you.

    Why does Devdutt or for that matter any one else NEEDS to defend their identity.

    Don’t know if you remember that Vinay came here and assured to Shenoy, that Vinay was not his real name and that it was a name by which he has chosen to be known here.

    He hoped that as he was accepted as Vinay then so should be all others by what ever name they choose to use here.

    Why is it that Vinay is accepted but Devdutt, myslef and others are not?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Even I don’t know why somebody will need to change their ID, the person who is
    doing this is the right one to answer. This is my observation that all these four different
    IDs are of one person though I may be wrong.

    Anonymous Reply:

    recall my mustad oild ramdev lathi u poosie to ****.ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all.jaihind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    recall my mustad oild ramdev lathi u poosie to ****.ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all.jaihind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    or made ‘kangla’ by the ISI not paying his dole?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back for your sabbatical.

    Ravi Reply:

    I was just observing from the back-benches

    Anonymous Reply:

    And when Abhishek Manu Zingvi does something out of his loose lungoat inside the supreme court(!), the congress runs for cover and its president’s tongue gets tied for months.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can always file a RTI application or get in touch with Dr. Subramaniam Swamy to pursue it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The RTI has cost President Patil her Pune retirement home.

    Or, was it the media pressure?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Does it matter? The fact that she was forced to give it up is good enough.

    Only three presidents went back to stay in their own homes after their terms ended – Dr. Rajendra Prasad, Dr. S. Radhakrishnan and Mr. V. V. Giri.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Gopi

    Except for the HT and part of NDTV, Rahul G and Sonia G have got poor coverage. Headlines Today talks about black flags to Sonia and the very low attendence to Rahul where farmers were sceptical.

    Tomorrow’s healdines in Hindustan Times will be about Bangaru. However time that people start putting in PIl’s on Bofors and getting Qourochchi to croak out his master;s name…

    I think this will happen now…

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay,

    Actually he wants us to address him with respect.
    He has probably forgotten a very very old saying that
    respect is commanded not demanded.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ji Ji

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Okay G

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t worry about addressing with respect. Just be nice and intriguing with your replies. That will make the time wothwhile on this blog. I hate dull and boring replies. I also hate autistic responses from the inconsolables.

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS……….BREAKING NEWS
    ==========++++++++++===============

    A 100 year old college in Mangalore BANS burqa
    ———-============————–=====================

    Surprise………Surprise……….Times Of India approves of the ban!

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    This is why I like you against so many odds. Will elaborate, if challanged.

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  • Anonymous

    Welcome back after
    a short sanyas.

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  • Ravi

    Vijay Kumar Khaploathya G

    I do remember the last battle. It could hardly be styled as 4 against 1, more like 5 individuals debating.

    However, I also noted that following morning a report was filed in by YOU. It was astonishing to read the debate being described as a battle, that you by your own judgement won. No one else either cared or accepted your self congratulatory verdict.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Cmon Ravi

    I have taken this as a challenge to change the mindset of people. And quite quite honestly I am working with a rather accomplished team of psychiatrists and psychologists on how mindsets can be changed.

    For a change it is Engineering principles to be used on the mind treating “thought’ which is a nueral command… as similar ot electric current flow in various mediums of different reistivity.

    One of the psychiatrists feeds this work to the UK government on how to REVERSE brainwash potential terrorists.

    Your poor dumb Vijay feeds them on various ways of accomplishing this in individual and group behaviour. A sort of Pavlov for the 21st century.

    I certainly believe that I have changed you and manohar to some extent. Engrich is a hard nut to crack.. but he would remain quiet for fear of being mocked before ground level brainwashing on his shows up.

    The more you hate me… makes me smile because I know deep down you acknowledge that I am right. Nobody wants to be labelled a nauker… so nobody will support dynastic succession on this blog openly.

    Everyone will now agree that the COngress was a national jewel taken over by corrupt trolls… and needs to be restored back to original glory.

    Nobody will support Pakistan blindly… and label nationalists who would want to be carefull as RSS … as they did an year back…

    Well the experiment is on… I dont want to give more details right now.

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    Ravi Reply:

    This would be incredibly funny, if it wasn’t said in that serious tone.

    No one is able to change any one. Change comes from within.

    The more I read you the more you remind me of Edward ‘Teddy’ Daniels, from “Shutter Island”

    अपने हालात से में सुलह तो कर लूं लेकिन
    मुझ में इक शख्स जो मोजूद है वो मर जाये गा.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Well take it as funny if you must. It happens to be true. Psychologists and doctors tell me that I am not the worst guy in the field of getting ideas in… so that is good enough for me.

    Change happens when the facts presented to you convince you on what is right or wrong. In case you avenues of information coerce your mind along a certain path it is more to do with the value your mind attatches to each pice of information.

    To create war a psychology of hate is created by adding positive value to an act of hate. The American soldier who was subjugating the Gauntamano prisoner to electic current may well be a good beer mate. His brain has fed him nueral commands that his act of hate is actually a revenge fr the dead of 9/11

    The thousands of students from seminaries in Paksitan who are ready to wear the suicide jacket are convinced that thier act of blowing up innocents is no act of hate– but an action to make the world purer. It is the information and positive value attatched to the act of murder which gives them the nueral commands to do so.

    Ravi Reply:

    No matter how many FACTS (who will decide what is a FACT) are presented to anyone, the change only happens when these FACTS have comingled with what is already within one’s mind and as a result a NEW perspective is born. The change then takes place. Conditioning is not the same as change, it is just that conditioning.

    What you paddle here are your opinions, not FACTs, and that may be one very big reason as why you FAIL to change any one.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thanks for telling me about my failures ! :)

    Well now let us hear a lecture from you on why

    a) We should root for dynastic succession as we deserve to be siding with Somalia, Saudia,Norht korea, Cuba and pakisitan

    b) Let us also hear why we need to make the COngress degenerate more as this is the road– of corruption and loot– which is the need of the 21st century.

    Will wait for the answer as I plan to crash of soon…

    Beyond genetics it is all about conditioning. A guy with the same genes as me sitting in North Korea may be singing praises of the Kim Sung dynasty and its glory.

    While i spend time here, trying to rescue India from following that road.

    Ravi Reply:

    Here are my answers.

    A) I am not a supporter of dynastic succession. I do not know what gave you the idea that I was. However, we have an electoral process and ALL citizens of India are eligible to put themselves forward as candidates. From that point on, it is upto the electorate. If you think Rahul should not be unduly promoted, then exactly the same logic would suggest that one can not stop him being a candidate. Just as different lay lines of influence exist between the RSS and the net work of its franchises, similarly within the congress exist power battles/brokers etc which accept the supremacy and control of Sonia and co. No one forces them to.

    B) Corruption is a blight the affects every walk of life in India, congress is no exception. I wish my mother country was not associated with so much corruption. I am against corruption no matter who practices it – and that includes Congress.
    These views of mine have not changed since I was a youth in Karol Bagh.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay and Ravi;
    what a civil discussion. I am happy today.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “No one is able to change any one. Change comes from within”.

    You are wrong Ravi. If someone imagines that he is Gautam Buddha or Mahavir or Guru Nanak, then he has the ‘power’ to change the world, besides ridding the Congress Party of its ruling family along with the ‘naukars’ and restore it to its former glory.

    There is no cure for hallucinations or for anyone choosing to live in a fool’s paradise, a paradise in which there are no Gujarati beggars. See if the following is logical. Modi does has refused to issue them passports. No Passports, they cannot travel to North India, so someone does not come across them, therefore that someone reaches a conclusion (IIT ishtyle) that there are no Gujarati beggars.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Such a person only deludes themself and no one else.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    Have you, by any chance heard of a Nepali called K.N.Subba?

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Such a person only deludes themself and no one else.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you sir.

    I m just a small guy who beleives that mental swaraj is everybody’s birthright. That is what I am attempting to do to you. Make you mentllly free to see the truth, away from six decades of being prejudiced.

    I think getting out of the mindset of naukercy would be a huge huge benefit to you sir…

    I am not here to make you a Modi Bhakt or a kishenji bhakt or a karat bhakt. I am here just to rescue you from naukercy…

    Do you still want to remain a nauker, sir?

    Anonymous Reply:

    My Khandaan has been in the business of naukarshahi of foreigners since the time of Emperor Akbar. After that it was British, How can I be different?

    Now my parivar is in the service of the fascist waitress, who along with her son ‘holds an Italian passport – that is a bonus for me. There is ’something special’ about being a minion to ‘phoreigners’. You will never understand the joy of being a bootlicker of ‘white skinned’ people.

    BTW: How they managed to ‘fool’ the Indian government, election commission, the courts and the country to get elected to the Parliament, being foreign nationals, is a mystery to me. Care to tell me how they did it – you are allowed to take the help of your ‘guru’?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    some people like this congressi troll love to wallow in their blissful ‘naukar’ mindset. He is in fact afraid to even think of a life free from the servile mentality. But, please keep up your good work of trying to change his pre-set mindset.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Remember your delusion that terrorists dont come by visa. That Mohammad Atta and gang, Masood azhar and gang, David headley and gang just dropped down as pigeon droppings form the sky…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do these psychiatrists get paid ? Are you the pay master ?

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I am just an idea giver and the analyser.

    Dev Dutt, unfortunately the world of science is a long haul. To measue everything in terms of money would be shallow.

    A guy sitting in the wholesale market in Chawri bazaar would have made more money than APJ Kalam did in his lifetime.

    But who knows that wholesale merchant, beyond his family…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sometimes outlandish ideas help break the mould of the conventional thinking process. But most of the time they set the team on a wrong direction thus costing huge resources. Even thinking is a process. ‘What to think’ is a common element. But what really sets apart is ‘How to think’ component. It might sound a little weird that one needs to even decide how to think! Yes, that’s true. This sets the thinking process on a right direction, thereby reaching a solution faster. It’s like vaastu or chi of the thinking process.It sets a scientific framework for a freewheeling thinking process.

    Anybody can cut with the help of a scissor. But only a good sergon can put the body parts back in order. Perhaps that puts them in a special category. A sergon does not dare to attempt open the body parts unless he is confident to put them back in the right order.

    A bad sergon may goof up and mess up with a non vital body part. The patient may still live with a slight discomfort. But people who attempt to play with others’ brain should be extra careful. A bad attempt to orient a person’s thinking or behavioural pattern may create irrepairable damage. The attempt should never be a frivolous one.Sometimes the person my get away because the damage to the affected person may not be obvious immediately and the accountability is not possible. But an intelligent person must know where to stop. Because he is aware of his limitation.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    keep the good work going.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thanks Pankaj

    Off for my jog… but your words will inspire me…

    Anonymous Reply:

    The battle, in fact, was so decisive, you disappeared from the scene badly mauled and your sidekick is still licking his wounds. Coupled with the advent of Manu Zingvi’s sex-exploits and the lightening shocks it gave your fellow trolls, all of you were seen to have beaten hastry retreats.

    And most funnily, Sanjay was so badly demoralised, he has taken sanyas and was last seen, a couple of days ago, near Rishikesh, showing his palm to a sadhu!

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    Ravi Reply:

    In your frookhabadi dreams

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  • Anonymous

    Ganeshaya namah.

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  • Anonymous

    Who after Modi?

    Sometimes I think it would be nice to have an OBC leader like Modi to be the PM after a minority Sikh.

    But who will take over Gujrat? Will Gujrat be same after Modi?

    Will the next leader be as powerful? Will he make sure that Modi never returns to Gujrat? Will he spill the beans?

    After a little tentative move, Modi has shown reluctance to move out of Gujrat, perhaps after the rebel of few police men and seeing what Gowda could do to Yeddi in Karnataka.

    Will Modi really step out of Gujrat?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Dev

    Running a state is significantly different to running a federation of states where regional powers have recently over asserted their rights.

    So what do you think. Will he?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting scenario. Who do you think will succeed Modi in Gujarat if he moves to the National stage? Patel?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr. Manmohan Singh was chosen as the Prime Minister not because he was a Sikh.

    What happens to Modi will be known only after the Gujarat elections in December this year and that decision will be taken by Mohan Bhagwat – the head of the family. Other than SS and SAD, other allies of the BJP probably will not play ball with it – if Modi is in the picture.

    The best bet from the NDA side would be Nitish Kumar and he would make sure that Modi is nowhere in the picture.

    However, with both the Congress and the BJP in one royal mess – we may see a spell 4th front or 5th front or whatever of the regional parties ruling the roost, provided they cross 272+ seats combined. That will throw up its own challenges – too many ‘Prime Ministers-in-waiting’. Nitish Kumar would be the front runner. This may not last for too long – with the likes of mercurial Amma, Behenji and Didi, no one will know what will happen in the next 25 minutes.

    The other scenario will make things even more complicated – if the total of the Congress and the BJP seats exceed 272+ seats, then the 4th front will need the (outside) support of one of them and the rug can be pulled at any time. They both have done it previously and will not hesitate to do so again.

    Exciting times are ahead.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What Gujarat will be like post Modi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is all a big myth that Gujarat today is ‘great’ because of him, the CMs before him have been equally business friendly, because the ‘Dhandaa’ of the Gujaratis is ‘Dhandaa’. Period. Gujarat will continue its march – Modi or no Modi. Other states are not just sitting idle twiddling their thumbs either.

    During his tenure of 10 years, Gujarat has risen to 5th position from 7th at the time he took over – by no means an earth shattering achievement.

    Post Modi, there may be a greater reconciliation between the various religious communities. I hope so.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    I look forward to reading the reactions of Modi’s cheer leaders here.

    I can predict what they would be, but it will still be interesting to read their reactions to your very realistic evaluation of Modi’s achievements.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us see how many will venture to debate the issue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    None of the cheerleaders have had the nerve to come forward and have dispassionate debate.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    If the scenario you describe becomes a reality, then we need a PM who is able to accommodate aspirations of powerful regional leaders. He will need to stitch a coalition which acts regionally but thinks nationally.

    I am certain that these are not skills which Mr Modi is blessed with.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Whether his supporters here and elsewhere like it or not and remain in denial, he is still a divisive figure and practically most parties would have nothing to do with him. His vote-catching skills outside of Gujarat are suspect. He was a disaster in 2009. Even his fellow BJP CMs did not want him around. Wherever he campaigned, the BJP did badly. This is the reality and the RSS/BJP honchos know that. His unacceptability internationally is another huge factor. You cannot have PM with whom the others are reluctant to shake hands.

    His only chance is that BJP on its own gets 272+ seats. However, the BJP has shown that its peak is around 180 seats at the height of its popularity. Since then it is a downhill. In the last two years or so, the UPA has given enough gift boxes to the BJP and as Gopi rightly says, they do not even know how to unwrap the boxes. The boxes have been stolen by the regional parties.

    Then there are other claimants in the BJP – Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitely (lest not forget L K Advani and Nitin gadkari is fancies his chances too) who are not going to hand over the crown to Modi on a platter just like that.

    IMO and I have said it before, Manohar Parrikar, the Goa CM, is BJP’s best bet.

    Mohan Bhagwat has tough job on his hands.

    Ravi Reply:

    ‘A’ class analysis and correct conclusion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    fit only for c class fakes like you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Beyond “Z” class fundos like you

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Yaar, just because his name is Manohar you want him to be the PM candidate of BJP,
    but don’t forget that, I, Mohan have power to not to choose you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one!

    Anonymous Reply:

    This may sound immodest, I know a winning horse when I see one. What has anyone’s name has anything to do with it.

    Haven’t you read Shobha De’s wrtite-up?

    A champion horse will be a champion whether he is named Goslow or Runfast.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mmm…you got touchy.Did you?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not at all. I keep having such exchanges with Mohan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Manohar is a very serious type of person and sometimes he does not take a joke as a joke only.
    Thats fine with me, I will not change my habit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    grouchy would more accurately describe him

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOHAN,

    please don’t forget that your namesake, couldn’t win his own South Delhi seat and lost badly, still is ruling the country for the last eight years.

    Outside of Delhi, Manmohan Singh is also NOT known to have won even a single municipal seat for his party. He himself may not be divisive, but he sided with the killers of 4000 Sikhs and even protected them all these last 27 years, only once saying a feeble, “we are sorry for the anti-Sikh pogrom of 1984″, which didn’t fool even a single Sardar anywhere.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yet gave 2 full terms of stable Government, a glory that a very few can claim!

    Anonymous Reply:

    After Modi exits Gujrat, the congress may try to stage a come-back andpractise to play its own time tested two-nation theory. The state will return to its pre-2002 state of communal tension and riots, because the state has a history of riots.

    MODI MAY, NO CHANGE IT TO WILL NEVER ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. CONGRESS MAY HAVE TO WAIT FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER DECADE TO HAVE A TRY AT GETTING BACK TO POWER IN GUJARAT.

    IN THE MEANTIME, THE PSEUDO SECULARS HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO “APPLY” CLOSURE TO 2002 RIOT VICTIMS AS SUGGESTED BY FAKE RAVI.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I believe people were discussing about a probable BJP candidate in Gujarat when Modi moves to the National politics. Did you miss such obvious reference by chance, or by choice?

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  • Anonymous

    They must be all gays.

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak,

    If you remove your blinkers you will know that I m an interesting person.

    Waiting for a sarcastic comment .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know in a blink that you are an interesting person.

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  • Anonymous

    Discuss is again playing funny. My last to posts which were replies to Shenoy and Pathak
    have appeared on top.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Who is mangala?

    MOhan guesses he is PathakG. I have my doubts. PathkG is not at loggerheads with any person till now to make the effort to don a different wig.

    however here are a few facts which wil help us all zero on who Mangala is

    a) He hates Vijay, Shenoy, Balwinder, Rajeev, Dr mishra, Rajiiv

    b) He deliberatly tries to use Engrich type English to sound disjointedh is

    c) His postings come at a time which are between 1 pm to 2.30 am India time.

    d( he lives in a makebeleive world of RSS, Ramdev all being one pitted against the good guys…

    SO GUYS ANY PRIZES FOR GUESSING WHO THIS BEHROOPIYA IS ?????????

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    Ravi Reply:

    If this is how you conduct research, then God bless the Psychiatrists, particularly those who take undue advantage of their patients.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If he loves fake Ravi, he is definitely engrich writing when he dressesup in a salwar kameez.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    u fly long patang all time in empty sky.yes hate all 3 poosies to ****.2 real fiters mising.mustad oild ramdev lathi is my only roop.jaihind.

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  • Anonymous

    The most important factor for an electoral candidate -

    What is the most important factor that a political party looks in a probable party candidate? Be it a political party in the USA or UK or Germany or India!

    NRI bloggers may give their valuable input on the local practices.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ PathakG

    The most important factor is that he should represent the core values of the country and win on basis of explaining his agenda. He should be clean.

    In contrast in India It is about family where sycophants who derive benefits from being naukers of the family create an IPL cheerleader type atmosphere that family ko seva karmna hamaara karm hai. needless to say these naukers create spin on massive Bofors like Corruption, the decimation of democracy by decmating free choice.

    In return these trolls get positions, contracts, power and soetimes just satisfaction that they have served the master and maalik well.

    Imagine what would have happened in US had Clinton nominated Chelsea as President choice. In UK if Churchull would have said that now conservatives belong to the CHurchill khandaan… Willy Brandt claim that ab mere baand brandt khandaan…

    In contrast few countries like Saudia, Pakistan, cuba and North Korea follow the other path.

    You as a mature person have to help India choose the right path .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How do we choose the most important factor for selecting an electoral candidate from your reply?

    What does a party see in a candidate before it selects for the job in USA?

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    The US makes sure that its core value of democracy and merit comes in. That is why the candidate debates and addresses free for all media conferences.

    his track record in various jobs is checked. His or Her finances are under scrutiny. foreign accounts, links with questionable kickback takers would be probed and punished.

    In sharp contrast the main Party which was our national jewel props up a candidate based on family; he or she is not competent to address the media… but the paid media drools and pants over him or her. The family link to gory massive scams like Bofors is never probed honestly.

    The iItalian busineesman whoc could only be a front for the real chor is allowed to fly like a pigeon.

    Do you thiink the US will eever project such a candidate? Give and honest answer.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What does the Republican or Democrat party look for in a probable candidate before selecting him?

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I know what you are getting at. I will say please read my post above and get the answer.

    Of course you will say winnabilty… morality and honesty be damned. Then I will only tell you to have a broader vision for a better India free from dynastic sycophancy… :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is ‘winnability’ the most important factor deciding a candidate for any level of election for any political party in USA,UK,Germany,Japan or matter of fact any country?

    Anonymous Reply:

    In your earlier avtar as Sanjay, you had agreed NOT to bore the rest of the bloggers by stretching arguments to ridiculous lengths, as you are doing now.

    Please, Sanjayji/Pathakji, jokes naihi sahi, par………….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you agree with Vijay that ‘winnability’ is the most important factor any political party anywhere in the World consider before selecting any candidate ?

    Perhaps Gopi can pitch in.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Hey you have twisted the whole thing congress style. I said winnability keeping core values like merit NOT FAMILY. The ability to handle media… not be MAUN in front of paid media…

    Anonymous Reply:

    3 simple steps from first to last. All these months you have been wondering longwith Gopi about the candidate selection process in USA ! Look for answers. Don’t get stuck up with our questions.

    By the way, it’s the same process in BJP too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG ji,

    I don’t know ‘what is the most important factor for a candidate, but I know what an Indian presidential candidate should undertake to do and not to do:

    1. The president should restrict his travel expenses to a maximum of 10 crores per annum.

    2. On foreign tours he should take only one cook.

    3. As the Rashtrapathi Bhawan is full of naukars, he should not take any specially designated naukar.

    4. He should take only two or three Asst.editors from the media selected on lots.

    5. Post retirement, he should agree to stay in a rented house or apartment in a city of his choice as per HM norms.

    Other “adjustments” can be made by him with a view to maintain austeriry and also simplicity.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Wife is like langar parsad, jitna chaho aap isme koi nuks nahin nikal sakte.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    What is you blood group – Be, G, R, W or V?

    ————-
    Be = Beer
    G = Gin
    R = Rum
    W = Whisky
    V = Vodka

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    Anonymous Reply:

    (: (:

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  • Anonymous

    Quintuplets beat odds to clear Grade 10 exams.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/quintuplets-beat-odds-to-clear-grade-10-exams-1.1014921

    Heartwarming interesting story from Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala.

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  • Anonymous

    More on Manohar Parrikar
    ————————————

    Breaking the CM mould
    Shobha De

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/politically-incorrect/entry/breaking-the-cm-mould

    Excerpts

    Can you believe it? He came to this dinner by cab! Yes, he actually took one of our Mumbai taxis. Oh, that’s him… the guy in that simple, blue linen shirt. No bodyguards, no entourage.” The ‘him’ in question was Goa’s newly minted chief minister Manohar Parrikar. And the reason Mumbai was gasping is easy to understand. Parrikar travels light. In every sense of the word. This was his coming-out party, in a way.

    —————-

    If Parrikar was aware of all the flattering comments floating around, he did a pretty good job of playing dumb, mixing easily with a cross-section of Mumbai’s elite.

    —————-

    Overheard that evening were comments like, “He speaks good English! He is articulate and soft-spoken. He doesn’t chew paan or pop paan masala into his mouth. Why, he even drinks beer! He is one of us.” The verdict was unanimous: Parrikar is kosher – a man of the world. A sophisticate. Someone who can be safely invited to a glamorous soiree without the hosts worrying about any faux pas being committed. Plus, he has a sense of humour – he joked about the billionaire quotient on the lawns.

    ———

    Read on and put Modi on the back burner for a while.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Thank god he is not a teetotaler, at least he drinks beer.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A teetotaler Goan is an oxymoron 99.99% of the time. ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    It is not like that, I know many Goans who only drink once
    a day.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And you, how many times in a day?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ PathakG

    I am more than careful while discussing ideas and solutions with psychiatrists. Ultimately they are the therapists. I am just a model evolver of implementation.

    There are many many many cases now successfully treated . This is not the forum to discuss that

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When you discuss ideas with the psychriatists, you are amongst the professionals. They know their responsibilities. They take ideas from many sources, filter or blend, calibrate before implementing. The ultimate responsibilities are theirs. You must be careful when you work solo. Sometimes a method may look simple but truly my not be so simplistic as it looks. I describe simplicity as ‘managed complexity’ . So one must be careful in trying out even a simple idea from another domain. Just be careful when you use brain remapping as a tool without professional guidance. Tools and methods are selected keeping overall impact in mind, not just the local impact.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There are many psychiatrists who themselves need treatmen or are confirmed psychos; many take advantage of beautiful patients in an unprofessional way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I wanted to become a psychiatrist because of beautiful patients
    but due to unavoidable circumstances I had to come to Dubai
    at a very young age. I think I can still try, let me think about
    that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Older the better.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Like how Manu Zingvi played with the female lawyer?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you miss such pleasure in your lifetime? You sound envious !

    Ravi Reply:

    PathakG

    He prefers buggering his muslim employees

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your personal experience will definitely help the fake Ravi with his jihadi bedfellow engrich in their gutter-bunker.

    Your tip on switching off the light certainly shows you are not an ordinary khiladi in the games of the kind Manu Zingvi played.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you are genuinely deprived! Not even this, which needs barely any effort on your part?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I would have loved to become your ‘compounder’.

    You are still capable of playing psychic-tricks on your readers here.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then you would have opened a clinic in some by lane claiming to be an experience real doctor by just peddling all the mixtures you learnt from Mohan!

    Anonymous Reply:

    and successfully cure people like Sanjay of their obsession with fair skin and dynasty naukari.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Quacks always make tall claims.

  • Anonymous

    In search of Manto

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12917883.cms

    The man who wrote some of Partition’s most poignant stories lies almost forgotten in the land he was born in. A month before his birth centenary, Sunday Times treks to his village to see its people working hard to resurrect his legacy.

    Every time young Sa’adat came down to Paproudi for his vacation, Ujagar Singh knew exactly what needed to be done. In the small, quiet village in Punjab’s Samrala tehsil the friends had their own ritual. Grab some makki ki roti and sarson ka saag and meet at their regular hangout – the common well in fellow villager Kartar Singh’s fields. Or as they fondly put it, “Kartaarey da khoo” . That was where they would bathe, eat and while away time playing football.

    ——–

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    SOME MORE ON MANOHAR PARIKAR
    ====================================

    CM flies the way you and I do

    While returning to Delhi from Goa yesterday, I was pleasantly surprised to find the chief minister of Goa, BJP’s Manohar Parrikar, on the same flight. No, this isn’t the first time I was on board with a CM, a senior minister or a politician. But what I saw – right from the time he boarded the aircraft till the moment he exited the airport building at New Delhi – impressed me so much that it has stayed with me till now and has made me write this piece.

    I tried to remember when was the last time I saw a CM or a senior political leader of Mr Parrikar’s stature queuing up like a common man to board a flight. No flunkeys, no security, no attendant, carrying his own luggage – and he was flying economy on a low-cost carrier, not first-class on a full services airline. He wasn’t the last to enter the flight nor was the flight held up for him to arrive.
    He walked into the Go Air aircraft like any average passenger, almost unnoticed, and well in time. Like everyone else, he queued at the gate, boarded the bus, and climbed into the plane when his turn came. He didn’t sit in the first row which has become the exclusive preserve of the high and mighty on flights that have no first class. He quietly slipped into row three (or was it row four) and sat there without any fuss. I think most people on the aircraft didn’t realise who he was and therefore no attempt was made to mob him or try and catch his attention.
    The cabin crew spent no more time attending to him than they did to any other passenger.

    When I shared this with a colleague who was travelling with me, he said, “I am sure the airline would have left the seat next to him unoccupied or his office would have booked two seats so that he is not disturbed.” But when I went to attend to nature’s call, I realised on my way back that this was not the case. All seats in his row were occupied and absolutely no special privilege seemed to have either been demanded or offered. Yes, he did have an aisle seat – as did two people in every row.
    When the flight landed in Delhi, he wasn’t the first to get off it. Usually, it is only when the VIP is ushered into a special car waiting for him at the tarmac (with a suitable red light mounted on the roof of the car), that the other passengers are allowed to deplane. In this case, neither was he the first to disembark, nor was there a car waiting. Nobody came to receive him on the tarmac and he boarded the same bus which took all other passengers to the airport terminal. Again, he carried his own luggage (two pieces) right up to the car which came to fetch him.
    While in the bus, a couple of co-passengers did recognise him and began to chat with him. The conversation which followed left me in no doubt that he was not just a gentleman but very understated in his demeanour. Dressed in a simple but formal shirt and trousers and black sandals, he didn’t look or sound like a typical politician. Having worked in the news business for a while, I did know that he is the first IIT-ian to head a state government in India. I had also heard that he was trying to clean up the murky world of Goa politics. But what I observed first-hand left me pleasantly surprised.
    I am not a resident of Goa and therefore not in a position to cast my vote for Mr Parrikar – in a political sense. But purely from a personal standpoint, he has my vote for the kind of person he seems to be.
    I had gone to Goa to attend the Network18 Leadership Meet and I learned my last lesson of leadership this weekend watching Mr Parrikar from a distance.
    Mr Parrikar, take a bow!

    Ravi (THIS ONE IS REAL, NOT A FAKE LIKE WE KNOW WHO)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Till a few years back, this used to be a standard case. I would come across many politicians carry their own baggages from the airport and just slide into their designated seats without any fuss. They would keep reading or indulge in small chats during the flight. I have sat next to few of them and have never tried to be extra friendly except for talking some broad topics. But in today’s time, Manohar to carry that old world charm on his sleeve is quite impressive. Kudos.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, how did you slide so badly as to become an appendage of the party of sycophants?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are wrong. I am always steadfast with my ideas, conviction and standing, even thorough seemingly disastrous crisis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    even to the extent of defending Manu Zingvi’s sex act with a fellow lawyerni inside the supreme court?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Is he for real ? After reading this my regards for him have grown manifold,
    but I am wondering will he able to survive for long in this world of dirty politics.
    For how long he will be able to stop his colleagues/subordinates from making
    money in a dubious way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I am very proud to say he is a fellow Konkani. Some months back his predecessor, Digambar kamat, also a fellow Konkani, was honoured in Mangalore by the World Konkani Centre (my elder brother is the President of WKC). SHortly Manohar Parrikar too will be honoured.

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    Ravi Reply:

    कौन कौन लोग बहुत होशियार होते हैं एक मुख्या मंत्री बन गया और दूसरे को संघ की शाखा में लिंग चूसने की प्रविधि प्रदर्शित करने का उत्तरदायित्व दिया गया है

    Anonymous Reply:

    aur aap ko ek mauka mila tha, aapne apne aap ko terrorist banaa ke gawa diya! Desh ke saath gaddari kiya !!!!

    Ravi Reply:

    इंडिया के खिलाफ यहाँ सिर्फ एक गद्दार है और वोह है तूं

  • Anonymous

    What happens if you don’t allow your girls to study.

    In Afghanstan all the ATMs are jammed because ladies put their hairpins
    when the instructions ” Enter the Pin” was displayed.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps the stupidity of the so called software professionals to be blamed. They might have used auto-translation for the messaging in the system. This kind of embarrassment has happened in many cases particularly in the cases of internationalisation of the softwares.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And what happens if you don’t allow your boys to study?

    They become engriches and fake Ravis who train suicide bombers.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Just like they do in every shakha in the country

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  • Anonymous

    Can anyone imagine how many scams we have had in our country ?

    * President of
    India’s land grab scandal -
    President of India
    Pratibha Patil allegedly
    grabbed 2,61,000 sq ft of defence land in Khadki Cantonment, Pune and built
    a home on it
    [1]
    [2]
    [3]
    [4]
    * Coal Mining Scam -
    Central government lost 1,070,000
    crore ( US$213.47
    billion) by not Auctioning Coal Blocks says

    CAG’s 110 page draft report

    [5]
    [6]
    [7]
    *
    Karnataka Wakf Board Land Scam – 200,000
    crore (
    US$39.9 billion)
    [8]
    [9]
    * Andhra Pradesh land
    scam – 100,000 crore (

    US$19.95 billion)
    [10]
    *
    Service Tax and
    Central Excise Duty fraud – 19,159
    crore ( US$3.82 billion)
    crore)
    [11]
    [12]
    * Gujarat
    PSU financial
    irregularities – 17,000 crore (
    US$3.39 billion)
    [13]
    [14]

    THIS IS NOT EVEN HALF OF THE ACTUAL LIST I HAVE.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Maharashtra
    stamp duty scam – 640
    crore (
    US$127.68 million)
    [15]
    [16]
    *
    Highway scam – 70 crore (
    US$13.97 million)
    [17]
    [18]
    [19]
    *

    Ministry of External Affairs gift scam
    [20]
    [21]
    [22]
    * Himachal Pradesh
    pulse scam

    [23]
    [24]
    * Flying Club fraud – 190 crore
    ( US$37.91 million)
    [25]
    * Andhra Pradesh liquor
    scam
    [26]
    [27]
    *
    Jammu
    and Kashmir Cricket Association scam – Approximately 50
    crore (
    US$9.98 million)
    [28]
    [29]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    PHE scam

    STILL LONG WAY TO GO.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    [30]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    recruitment scam
    [31]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    examgate
    [32]
    [33]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    dental scam
    [34]
    * Punjab
    paddy scam – 18
    crore (
    US$3.59 million)
    [35]
    [36]
    * NHPC cement scam
    [37]
    * Girivan (Pune) land scam
    [38]
    (not to be confused with Pune land scam which came to light during 2011)

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    edit]2011

    * Uttar
    Pradesh NRHM scam – 10,000 crore (
    US$2 billion)
    [39]
    [40]
    [41]
    [42]
    [43]
    *
    ISRO’s S-band scam (also known as ISRO-Devas deal, the deal was later
    called off) – 200,000 crore (
    US$39.9 billion)
    [44]
    [45]
    [46]
    [47]
    *
    KG Basin Oil scam
    [48]
    [49]
    [50]
    [51]
    [52]
    * Goa mining scam
    [53]
    [54]
    *
    Bellary mining scam
    *
    Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike scam – 3,207
    crore (
    US$639.8 million)
    [55]
    [56]
    [57]
    [58]
    * Himachal Pradesh
    HIMUDA housing scam

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    I have still not reached half way stage, but I am tired now. Will post others later.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why bother to collect, when you can create pages!
    Ask your DTP guy to create pages on daily basis, whenever he is relatively free. Anybody can create a page on Wikipedia. You know which group is hyperactive on the internet!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Just try to go through few of these pages and tell me whether any
    of this is not true.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Have they already demolished the house Pratibha Patil built on 2,61,000 sqft land that she ‘grabbed’ in Pune?

    Please check the link you have provided.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Of all the links I have provided you chose to mention
    this because scam was not allowed to happen due
    to one honest person who through RTI brought this
    issue in limelight.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do not shift the goal post. I barely took 2 sec to look at your own list after you asked me to go through and check the authencity. I did not do any special research on your list or your intent.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Aap ki nazar ki daad deni chahiye.
    From the list of more then 50 links
    you spotted this one.
    Maan gaye aapko.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Eyes are trained to see the deviations instantly. It helped me survive in a very violent world.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    In violent world? Bhai mere are you any way
    connected to Dawood
    Ibrahim ? (: (:

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ha ha…Lagta hai bhai aap pe meherbaan hai!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Dawood Ibrahim and Vinod Sharma are separated, though not at birth, but they are related by violence.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can any sane person…….. ?

    Remember your own words not very few hours ago!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are forgetting that you have to “act” Sanjay’s role here.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, he detected this fraud out of fifty in a jiffy, because this WAS AND IS THE FRAUD THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED TO REACH ITS FINISH. THE FRAUDSTER CALLED PRATIBHA PATIL WAS RUN OUT BY ANOTHER PATIL.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You took just two seconds to fish out the incomplete fraud. Bedcause you know the rest of them are absolutely true.

    That is the advantage one gets by being an insider.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That was like M M Joshi filing his reports of interviews of the Govt. officials even before they were called for interview. It’s in the blood.Or, shall I say in DNA?

    Anonymous Reply:

    DNA and NDA – any difference?

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘N’egativity shifts to the fore.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Or Amar Singh “creating” a fake CD and passing it on to our dear friend Vinod Sharma as genuine one?.

    And Vinodji going public with a fake CD?

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    One needs to check out how many crores were wasted before the RTI guy caught Pratibha in the act.

    Anonymous Reply:

    At half way stage, it is good to stop awhile and ponder:

    Alcohol is a perfect solvent:
    It dissolves marriages, families and careers.

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  • Anonymous

    I know it is very depressing reading about scams.
    Meanwhile just watch this. I am sure you all will enjoy this card trick.
    At least I have never seen this earlier.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/Uh0CMcLiRkw%26feature%3dshare

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Parrikar seems t%o be an interesting guy. I hope he does;nt fall into the trap of populism.

    His lowering of Petro prices sent a message to the centre that we are overtaxed anyway. But to lower it to 0.1 % level could also mean losing a source of big revenue.

    So he has to keep a balance. On one side of the populist trap is Mamta– a hige faiure of after a few months of rule. Little brain, no acumen, only hysteria

    There is another engineer who has shown that his brains and prefessional qualification can help change things rapidly. And that guy is Nitish Kumar.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Mohan

    A huge list of scams.

    I have a feeling tht the BJP let go of the COngress too easily in the Manu ZIngvi yaun Shoshan case. If the COngress gets such a handle, all its MPs. paid media and trolls would do a one month Public bhangra

    The FUNNIEST part is the intervention of Sonia Gandhi on the Bofors scam in Lok Sabha. She had nothing to say abotu Quotrochchi. Rajiv Ganhdi and the kickbacks. Instead she got up and blamed BJP for getting Amitabh Bchchan into the picture.

    Imagine Amitabh had to bear the taint for 2 decades… the so called close friend of Rajiv.

    Could she not have announced in 1990 itself that Amitabh is innocent and only Ottavio Quotrochchi and Rajiv have a link to the kickbacks??

    Kya aaj dosti ka matlab, dost ko phasaana hai?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Italian blood is thicker than Indian water.

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  • Anonymous

    Okay, let’s say it was not his best. Hope you would be around to enjoy his next. Keep visiting.

    [Reply]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Pathakg

    Could not Sonia G have announced in 1990 that Amitabh is innocent in Bofors kickbacks as the money has gone to Ottavio Ji and rajiv ji only?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you are missing your running trees and mountains badly. Look out of the window.

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I will be singing a song when I walk thru the trees

    Jungle mein bofors ka chor naacha
    Kisne dekha, Maine dekha

    hai..

    This is part of the old hindi film song. I hope you love it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And catch up with the running trees.

    Anonymous Reply:

    why this kolai veri di, whenever we refer to Bofors kick back and Q?

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak-

    The political parties do not nominate/select any candidate in any US election, be it local city, state, senate/house, or presidency. The function of political party organization is mainly for fund collection, state party infrastructre, voter registration, etc.

    The candidates generally are selected by the individual party members through a gruelling process called “primary’.

    For example, the primary process for presidential candidate, MPs (senators), MLAs, governors etc for the november election is happening across all the sates now.

    In the republican primary for president, several people contested – Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachman, Paul, Santorum , Cain etc. Romney is leading in the delegate count; all others xcept Paul have backed out; so Romey will most probably be the republican candidate- The actual nominatuion happens in the party convention , this year in August in Tampa.
    There is no primary contest for presidential candidate for the democratixc party this election, because nobody has come against Obama. If you remember, Obama won a gruelling primary against the formidable Mrs Clinton four years ago.

    “conservatives” are preferred i n republican primaries – partly because only “hard core” party members bother to vote in the primaries – this year the conservative vote was split between Santorum and gingrich and Paul; thus helping Romney.

    I can elaborate further if you have any questions.
    One thing – the primary election process is not consistent across states – in some it is winner takes all; in others it is proportional; in some it is allocated by who won the majority in each prliamentary constituency. Also in some states they allow crossover – ie a demcrat can vote in a republican primary, or a independent can vote for a dem or repub candidate.

    i can elaborate on any aspect if you have more questions.
    BH

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Cheers Benoy !!

    Your post will clear the air once for all for the khandani naukars who wish to foist one single family for their own personal gain.

    I think we need to remind them that India’s place has to be with the US, UK, France and Australia. And not with north korea, Cuba, somalia, saudia, Pakistan.

    Not surprisingly new democracies like Sri lanka, South Africa, Isreal have marched ahead of us.

    While nakercy like Egypt, Syria, Libya have given a boot to the looting royal famimlies !!

    This wont elicit the answer from people you ask for…as they have none !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Khanna , before any grandiose project to reform political system , INDIA SHOULD LEGISLATE COMPULSORY LEGALLY BINDING SCHOOL ATTENDANCE TILL AGE 16 , failing to do so should land PARENTS IN JAIL LIKE IN UK

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    Anonymous Reply:

    India is making effort with RTE. This is a fairly good effort.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I think that is very very very important. We have thousands of school buildings in all states which are underutilised becasue BOTh teachers and students are empty…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan-

    I believe there are rules on the books, money is “budgeted” – but as usual the bureaucrats and Mayawatis and Karunanidhis steal…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure about south, but 90% teachers in Delhi indulge in full time petty politics.For our kind information more than 90% of that category are active BJP supporters.

    Anonymous Reply:

    99% of journalists in the north also work for the congress party. Whether that is acceptable?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Anna and Team get Max response in Delhi/North. Does it say anything?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Indira Gandhi, when she was shamed and humiliated on the world scene due to the imposition of emergency, she called for elections to give some sort of legitimacy, hoping that she would win the post emergency elections.

    Sonia Gandhi too must have been sounded by thinkers like Vinod Sharma about the criticism of her dynasty-driven party and it looks like she wants to give some kind of legitimacy to her family rule, by studying how candidates are ’selected’ in the US.

    PathakG ji, I hope now after this ‘explanation’ from Binoy, you can “intimate” 10 Janpath the collective opinion of this house.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Indira Gandhi, when she was shamed and humiliated on the world scene due to the imposition of emergency, she called for elections to give some sort of legitimacy, hoping that she would win the post emergency elections.

    Sonia Gandhi too must have been sounded by thinkers like Vinod Sharma about the criticism of her dynasty-driven party and it looks like she wants to give some kind of legitimacy to her family rule, by studying how candidates are ’selected’ in the US.

    PathakG ji, I hope now after this ‘explanation’ from Binoy, you can “intimate” 10 Janpath the collective opinion of this house.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    When people fight for primary, what is the primary basis they win their votes?
    That the person has fairer chance of winning the final race.

    A democrat voting for a republican candidate is like a deviant from a vote bank…almost like a muslim voting for Gadkari.

    Please do not presume I am just casually brushing away your argument. But ‘winnability’ still remains as the central premise. If a charismatic leader closes a perceptible gap, then he most probably wins the residual floating votes or even cross votes.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Individuals vote based on various premises; for some it will be the eventual winnability against the other party’s candidate.

    Obama won the primary against Mrs Clinton, not because any winnability consideration – the general concensus was any decent democratic candidate will win against a republican, because of the woes created by the republican George Bush.

    Obama won mainly because he understood all the arcane rules of primary (winner take all, county by county, caucaus vs primary, specific registration requirements etc; and won against Mrs Clinton who had significant money and “establishment support”.

    Romney did not win any of the southern states that are considered very conservative, very much dominated by evangelical christians. Now, although he did not win primary in those states, most of the people there will vote for him in general elections because they hate Obama more.

    “Winnability” is a factor mostly on the vested interest side – lobbyists, specific businesses etc; but not on the people who vote. So, they spend money allowable within the guidelines on advertising etc “promoting” their candidate.

    This election will see untold money spent by “Super Pacs” (super political action committees) promoting specific candidates, mostly republicans. A landmark decision by the Supreme Court last year declared “businesses are people from an election perspective – they have the right to advocate for their issues”.. So unlimited money can be spent as long as they do not have direct connection with the candidate. American democracy will be in peril unless this new law is over turned by a new Congress. But it will be a cat and mouse game because business will not let this newfound power go, they will advertise against any move to take this away.

    An Obama or a Marco Rubio (the rising star on the republican side, often mentioned as a potential VP candidate for Romeny) etc cannot happen in India where a party insider nomination system is the norm.

    FYI Rubio came from nowhere and defeated a popular republican governor (Charlie Crist) in the republican primary for Senate in florida. Rubio, a 32 year son of a Cuban immigrant

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Americans love underdogs and dark horses. There was huge contrast between Obama and Clinton. They were from opposite ends.And Obama had that spark. He held on to his ground and fired the imagination. When the competition is fierce, win ability becomes the driving force, else people don’t mind taking chances.

    We can take any circuitous route, but ‘winnability’ eventually comes to fore.

    Trust me, actually you don’t have to even make that effort, ‘winnability’ is the role criteria in any ‘perfect competitive situation/market’, unless you are in monopoly situation.

    Now, let’s ask ourselves – are we in a perfect competitive political situation hire in India ?
    Have we create enough political equity with a strong opposition?
    Have we created a good product and service as an alternative to the dominant brand?
    What ‘winnability’ factor have added to our alternative product?
    Do we expect the dominant brand just vanish away by crying harsh that the product us bad?
    People do not want to live in vacuum. They want real alternative – not some pseudo alternative.

    Do you want to replace the main brand in the market, then go invest in your product, branding first.

    Say “Buy me”.
    Don’t say – “Why are you buying brand X”.

    Anyway, when the top mentor of the opposition is busy creating only slogans as if he has still been writing film reviews, you do not expect a real opposition from his party.

    The opposition needs a real leadership than worrying why the dominant party has a particular leader.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Indian party system – whether Congress, BJP, or regional parties – functions like family enterprises; some, such as Congress, more than others. Indian system is destined in perpetuity for “family” type arrangements, as long as the party decides who the candidate should be, rather than the grass root party members/voters deciding who should represent them that constituency. It is a big change, but unless something like that happens, you will see the family control, the breakway regional parties, parties within parties etc, that is not good for stability and strategic planning.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Indians love their families. They work like families in office. They live together like families in a colony. Indian businessmen proudly deal with their business partners like families.

    How do you expect that sense of bond to vanish just like that?

    You have to create a system around the existing problem. In IT, you design a system around the known problem.

    I do not have problem with a family less political system. I have problem with cribbers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Indians love their families. They work like families in office. They live together like families in a colony. Indian businessmen proudly deal with their business partners like families.”

    How then, PathakG ji, you threw out a “family member”, Vir Sanghvi, at the mere whiff of a scandal, when others like NDTV carried on merrily?

    Anonymous Reply:

    What has happened to him? Anything new recently?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    Ultimately people will throw out family control
    if they don’t perform as per the people’s
    expectations. It will take a long time maybe a
    decade or two but will happen eventually.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. Very well said.

    If china could change, anything can happen.Nobody can resist the inevitable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Though you have to be atleast a card carrying member of that party to stand as a candidate for that party,Having said that India should copy LOCK STOCK AND BARREL the american system of selecting candidates. Though it is not true that the “high command” of democrat or republican party will not intervene ansd cancel the local nomination if the candidate has links with Klu Klux Clan or Mafia

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan-

    I agree – the Indian way of party committee deciding who will contest where etc perpetuates family/other connection and lineage; one reason why there are so many parties in India is precisely due to this – the one who is denied a seat forms a new party. The impetus to start new party is reduced to negligible percentage in a “let all contest and the winner be the nominee” system.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Agreed

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    This is the main problem that anyone who is denied a ticket
    forms his own party. The situation has reached at such level
    that 5-6 seats won by these small parties dictate their ‘terms’
    for supporting/joining the main party to form a government.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s been long time. Now people should go for a single party majority for better governance. The policy freeze up because of uncertainty needs to stop. We need a ten year window of single party majority rule. This will help accelerate the development process. It can be either Congress or Bjp or any other party, but one must go for simple majority.

  • Ravi

    Four Hindu youths held for desecration of temple

    The incident triggered riots in Hyderabad earlier this month

    It was not ‘jihadis,’ but four Hindu youths, instigated by two local leaders, who planted the legs of a cow and sprinkled green paint in a temple at Madanappet, sparking communal clashes in the old city three weeks ago, the police have said.

    The youths have been arrested, and the police have launched a hunt for Niranjan, a wine merchant, and Srinivas, a moneylender, accused of masterminding the desecration.

    The arrested were Nagaraj, who works as a contract sanitation supervisor in the Greater Hyderabad Municipal Corporation; Kiran Kumar, a florist; Ramesh, a hotel worker; and Dayanand Singh, a car driver. All of them hail from Kurmaguda of Madannapet.

    The arrested persons did not have any criminal record, but were organising religious programmes in the area. Their aim was to create communal disturbances and turn the situation to their advantage by provoking and uniting the Hindus, the police said on Friday.

    Read on… http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3364832.ece

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is classic repeat of formenting communal divide by the RSS.

    As the RSS does not have any membership register, it is going to be so easy to disown these four youths.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    These Hindu Taliban will go to any length to foment a riot, a noted and oft tried RSS tactic.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    even rape 5000 dalit women daily.

    Ravi Reply:

    Could not have agreed more.

    Most High Caste Hindu rapes do not get reported. Police are still reluctant to record reports of rapes of dalit girls committed by High Caste Hindus

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Pathak G

    Looks llike your stories of obfusctaing Sonia G and Ottavio g and Rajiv g ’s role gets a pavlovian reaction fo running around trees.

    Arre baba gareeb desh mein chori hui hai. Chor paso na. Yeh Khandaan ki vafadaari se kya mohabbat hai? Koi profit ho rahah hai kya?

    Waiting for an answer which has no trees, no obfuscation, no excuses, no filmi stories.. :)

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Going for tennis and beer now… but boy !! Am I going to enjoy myself and wait for an answer which has BJP, Vajpayee, everything including the kitchen sink… !!

    Bu5 nothing on catching the lootera of Bofors… Ottavio G and _ _ _ _ _ G

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Edwina M and Nehru J.

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Edwina was a flagpole as per Shashi tharoor on which the Indian flag was planted…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    Have a good game!
    Do you have any attractive “opposite sex” doubles partner?

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thx benoy

    Always enjoy your postings. Just saw this after coming back home…

    Well as for my partner… my lips are sealed…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Break your own shackles of Pavlovian bondage before you even try to change others. You have a compulsive disorder of repeating and getting stuck. Please expand the bandwidth. You might be getting immense pleasure in repeating and moving in a circular motion, for many it’s a simple waste of time and energy.

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    My bandwidth is freedom, democracy, free markets, choice, scientific rationality, secularism, justice for all, punishing criminals and the corrupt… :)

    I invite you to join my bandwidth, rather than try to find fault with it..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    How often do you dance to your own shot on the court?

    ‘Ohh…Maine ball ko touch kar liya!!!!!!…………………….’……………’………..’………’………’……..’…………’………..’……….”
    ……………….’………………….’

    ( you may an extra reverb for the effect)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now you are trying your hand at half-boiled neem hakeem kind of psychiatry on Vijay Kumar.

    Sanjay, during the time he was a guest here, never tried to impress people with his psychiatry mumbo jumbo.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Somebody got to tell him the bitter truth. If you want to help him as a real friend, then help him move out his syndrome of repeating and creating a make-belief world where he thinks that he can change the world by changing some unknown guy on the blog. He has fallen in love with his own cyber role. Help him. Do it in your own sweet way. He is an immensely likable guy, but in complete delusion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I want to help you as a real friend and well wisher. You shouldn’t suffer the fate earlier suffered by Prabhat, Prahlad and Sanjay. Therefore, please take my advice, come to the blog with your real ID, however ugly it is.

    Don’t be like the fake Ravis, Ram Autars and Manglams of this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Deal and be happy with my nice part. Don’t try my ugly part.
    For reacpturing how you suffer, just browse back.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you may think that by censoring my repostes to you, you are making me suffer.

    The fact that you are taking multiple IDs on your own blog, shows that you are scared of people seeing your ugly side.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Before I leave for the tennis game.. and Impartant announcement.

    DEMOCRATS WILL WIN THIS 6-0 6-0 6-0 OVER THE NAUKERCY PROMOTERS ~~!!

    Cheeeeeeeeerssssssssss CIAO !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    aap ke munh mein ghee shakkar aur CD less khajoor.

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    Ravi Reply:

    और आप के मुहं में इंट पत्थर for being the most divisive and communalist bloger here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You didn’t have to say that. Everyone knows.

    Anonymous Reply:

    aur aap ke sir par cement aur concrete, Osama style, which jihadis like you richly deserve.

    Ravi Reply:

    H I N D U Fundos like you deserve it reinforced with सरिया

  • Pankaj#1

    Thanks Manohar for the link on Manto.
    I have very high esteem for this writer.

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    Ravi Reply:

    The BBC once honoured this writer by dramatising “Toba Tek Singh”. Zohra Sehgal was absolutely brilliant in it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj and Ravi

    I had started wondering whether any of the bloggers were interested in Manto. Glad you liked it.

    Perhaps, other bloggers have ‘more’ important things to do in life – kite flying, writing nursery rhymes, etc. ;-)

    I will keep posting links on similar topics and personalities just for the two of you.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Please do continue to post such links. I know many here aprreciate your efforts and I count myself among them.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sadat Hasan Manto was one of the earliest writers who worried about the “ugly American” in our continent.

    With India moving into the Soviet orbit in the 1950s, USIS approached Manto with a lucrative offer – They offered him money to write against Stalin in Urdu journals – he did accept some money, but wrote instead a “Letter to uncle Sam” , mocking America’s claims to moral superiority over the Soviet Union.

    His editors banned Manto from their pages. But Manto kept writing more letters to Uncle Sam, publishing nine “letters to uncle Sam” in local periodicals from 1951 to 54.

    He predicted that US will end up arming the generals and the Islamist mullahs In 1954, he had satirically exhorted Uncle Sam “once military aid starts flowing the first people you should arm are these Mullahs”..

    Manto saw through the cynical game of arming anybody and everybody, “as for your military pact with us, he “advised” uncle Sam- it is remarkable and should be maintained. You should sign something similar with India…and your armament factories will no longer remain idle”.. Lo and behold, US signed the nuclear plant treaty with India few years ago!

    Manto, prescient about the Ugly American, did not fully warn us about the Ugly Pakistanis, and as a consequence a few ugly Indians too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopji,

    There was no need for Manto to warn us about ugly
    Pakistanis which was very obvious to us but sadly some people do not want to see the reality.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Thanks for some invaluable facts about Manto.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    with this post, you have given these Mullah-loving liberals a kick in the ***.

    Ravi Reply:

    The way I read it, it seems to have been aimed at your PUNDO loving crotch.

  • Anonymous

    Senses is like a strapless bra. Some wonder what’s holding it, while others wait
    for it to fall down and grab the opportunity with both hands.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In such situations, senses be damned.
    one should go by consensus.

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  • Anonymous

    A 65 year old man went for sperm count. Doctor gave him a bottle to collect sperm.
    Next day this man came back with the empty bottle and said ” Doctor, I tried
    with my right hand and then with my left, nothing happened. Then my wife also tried
    with her left and right hand but she also could not manage. My sister in law was
    around and I asked her to help, she not only tried using her both soft hands, she also
    tried with her mouth but still did not succeed. My wife then called our neighbour’s young daughter to help but she also failed even after using her hands and mouth.
    Believe me doctor, nobody could open this damn bottle.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Someday somebody might just shoot you for causing him heart attack out of sheer uncontrollable laughter. Don’t tell us we didn’t warn you.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    toooooooo gud ! Mohan…

    I am designing and constructing a IVFT centre for a doctor client… I will certainly forard this chutkala to the doc… and remind him that bottles have to be nice…

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    I am collecting these jokes. Do not blame me, if I publish them in my name. ( I will not do this felony, for sure.)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Few pegs of a good whiskey as a royalty would do.

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  • Anonymous

    India’s Broken Promises … an article in the current issue of Foreign Affairs magazine

    http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137530/basharat-peer/indias-broken-promise?page=show

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  • Anonymous

    Madras miscellany: A relationship in letters
    S. MUTHIAH

    http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article3367259.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    Chitti, like all Tamil men of letters of his time, never thought much of Tamil women writers. That was until he read Krithika’s first novel, Puhai Naduvil, set in Delhi’s world of governance where her husband, S. Bhoothalingam, was a senior Civil Servant, much of the time on T.T. Krishnamachari’s team. This novel published in 1955 led to Chitti and Krithika beginning a dialogue that lasted till the middle of 1988. In it they exchanged views on everything under the sun, from art and culture to Tamil writing via psychology and philosophy. It was an intellectual companionship that lasted from their forties till their seventies making the reader wonder what happened to the relationship during the last 15 years of their lives. Or are there more letters still to be found?

    But even while the reader wonders about the 1990s and the 2000s, he/she also wonders what the relationship between the two was that kept their correspondence so vibrantly alive for three decades and more. And it was that relationship that Gopalkrishna Gandhi dwelled long and delightedly on when releasing the book. Dismissing raised eyebrows and Eros, Gandhi said they were just letters that provided the opportunity for the writers to express themselves. “Chitti and Krithika,” Gandhi felt, “reposed trust in one another’s sensibility, discretion and restraint in a relationship that did not suffer owing to lack of conventional typifications.” It was a relationship of two minds that shared thoughts, which did not necessarily find acceptance in the other.

    ———-

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  • Anonymous

    Call for new U.K. visa rule to keep out Modi

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article3367500.ece?homepage=true

    Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi could be among those likely to be affected by new immigration rules under which non-European Union citizens accused of serious human rights abuses may be banned from entering Britain.

    Rights campaigners on Sunday said that they would demand that the proposed rules should be used to keep out Mr. Modi because of his role in the anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat.

    There were widespread protests when he was allowed to visit Britain in 2003, and a planned visit in 2005 was called off at the last minute after a determined bid by rights groups to get an arrest warrant against him.

    ————-

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When it comes to REAL POILITIC , those namby pamby considerations can wait.
    Already USA is preparing grounds to lift sanctions against Modi, Britain being an obidient poodle of USA will not stay far AND RIGHTLY SO.
    If MODI becomes PM of INDIA , REST OF WORLD will have no choice but to accept the ground reality, like Britain attending Emperor Hirohito ’s funeral despite not of noises from WW2 veterans of BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Who cares for Britain and US as far as Visa to Modi is concerned. For Modi, he does not cravre to go to these destinations, it is Britishers and Americans, who will crave to visit him.The very tone you have used, says that you have already pronounced him guilty. You you are assuming rather more than what the reality is. Hum ko aise yuvak chahiye….famous lines from Sohan lal
    Dwivedi, read this poem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj-

    You are right. Who cares for UK? And at the rate US is going, who will care for it after a few years?

    They will give him 10 visas if he buys defense equipment from them.

    They will not have a choice other than crawling to him, if he becomes the PM,as Dr Shan mentioned .

    Trade rules.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Correct Observation Binoy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “The very tone you have used”.

    Surprise, surprise. I just reproduced an excerpt from the news item, how does it become my tone? Id id not bother to comment on it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    I did not mean your tone. After that article was posted in
    Time magazine I read many articles and heard people
    talking about it on the TV. The regular Modi bashers. I was
    talking about those people as a general observation.