The Best of 2009… thus far



I know we’re barely into the tenth month this year and November and December are still left, but 2009 has thus far been such a hyperactive period for music that I couldn’t help writing about the best that I’ve heard till now. It’s not easy to do a list of the best new albums but let me try.

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Wilco is an American alternative rock band based in Chicago, Illinois.

First, let me get the legends out of the way. Like Morrissey, whose Years of Refusal came out this year and wowed me no end. It’s quite simply a brilliant album that I thoroughly enjoyed and, not surprisingly, it did overtime on my playlists for months. Every song on the new Morrissey album was great, replete with Morrissey’s wry wit and knife-edged irony, and I’d be hard-pressed if I were to try and find any of the 12 tracks that I liked less than the others. That’s the hallmark of a truly great album.

Then, there was Bob Dylan’s Together Through Life. Pitchforkmedia snootily rated it at a low 5 point something, which I thought was unfair. Not just because the songs were co-written by Dylan with Robert Hunter (former lyricist of The Grateful Dead). Dylan’s 68 and Together is his 33rd studio album. That in itself is quite an achievement. Also, his nasal snarl-cum-growl sounds nearly melodious on this album. It did the rounds on my playlist but not as long as the Morrissey album.

A couple more legends and then I’ll dive straight into newer/younger musicians. This year also marked the release of Bruce Springsteen’s Working On A Dream, which I liked better than 2007’s Magic, but not enough to obsessively keep listening to. In any case, I haven’t quite enjoyed Springsteen after the mid-1990s. The other big release this year was U2’s No Line On The Horizon. When I first heard the album, I thought ah, this is one album that will grow on me. It didn’t. Every time I’ve heard it since, I’ve thought the same thing and, sadly, that hasn’t happened. But it’s there on my iPod and I promise to keep listening to it. Perhaps it is a slow grower.

The small matter of the big guys behind us, let’s get to the exciting new sounds that rocked my ears all of this year. There have been so many excellent releases in the past 10 months that it was tough choosing what to mention and what not to. But first, the easy ones: the ones whose songs keep wafting through my ears long after I’ve heard them. Animal Collective’s Merriweather Post Pavilion is one of those. When I first heard the iconoclastic Brooklyn band’s Strawberry Jam in 2007, I thought these guys (each of whom has an alias, viz. Panda Bear, Geologist, etc.) were noisy anarchists. It’s only after Merriweather that I’ve realised they’re probably pioneers well ahead of their times who’re demonstrating a very original take on what rock music is going to become—an excellent album.

Sonic Youth’s latest album The Eternal would definitely make the grade in this top cut of this year’s best albums. For a band that has been around for 28 years and influenced legions of other musicians, their 16th album is a gem—it’s their return to a small indie label as well as to down-to-earth indie rock. It’s doing heavy rotation on my playlists. St. Vincent is the pseudonym of an American singer-songwriter Annie Clark and her second album Actor, a mellow, soothing sound married to thought-provoking lyrics, should be compulsory listening for anyone interested in contemporary popular music. If Clark, who is 26, delivers mature music of this kind now, I’d like to see what we will get to hear from her in the years to come. Like Actor, singer-songwriter M. Ward’s new album, Hold Time, was yet another stellar work of 2009. His touching voice along with delicately constructed music—guitars, double-bass, spare percussions—are a delight.

This year’s brought so much more. There was Grizzly Bear’s exquisite, harmony-filled Veckatimest (mentioned before in Download Central), Wilco’s Wilco (The Album), The Decemberists’ Hazards Of Love, Camera Obscura’s My Maudlin Career and so many more. I still haven’t been able to listen to many of these. Yo La Tengo’s Popular Songs is on my playlist now; Pearl Jam’s Backspacer is queued up behind; and I’ve just sampled a bit of Bon Iver’s newest project, Volcano Choir and their debut album, Unmap.

But this year also brought a surprise from very close by. Frankly, I’d never heard of The Supersonics. So when a friend handed over an album with the corny title, Maby Baking, I was skeptical. But I heard it and was overwhelmed. It’s been sitting in my car stereo for a week now on my rather long commutes to work. For the uninitiated, The Supersonics are a Kolkata band and this, their debut album, is wonderful. You like British post-punk bands? You like shoe-gaze? A Smiths fan, are you? The Supersonics are for you. Refreshingly steering clear of what hate-mailers of Download Central refer to as ‘hard rock’ or trying to emulate has-been classic rockers of the seventies, The Supersonics deliver music that draws on many influences but is yet is remarkably original. Check them out.

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  • vishrant

    the difference between music and any other noise, is harmony. if you can help me in spotting the harmony in the you tube links given here!

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    A h, well. One man’s discord is another man’s music, I guess. :)

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    Mitul Reply:

    I dnt think so….U guyz cant call noise as music….Music is one described as which soothes all d public,& not any individual.I hope my fellow bloger Sanjoy can understand it now.

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    Vikram Reply:

    Hi Mitul

    Your views on ‘noise and music’ is absolutely understandable. To some of us what may smell like yummy/wholesome food to others it may be the smell of gluttony. Stephan R Covey, writer of ‘Seven Habits of Highly effecgtive people’ refer to standpoint or view as ‘paradigm shift’.

    Sound of distortion is expression in a form of music. Like Slvador Dali used surrelism to express that way he looked at the world.. do we really understand it ? Like Bhimsen Joshi or Ustad Bismillah Khan’s of the world- do we own their Tapes or CD.

    What we really like is the popular music (easy to understand and strickes the known musical chord we have been raised in ‘our paradigms’ nurtured over the years).

    Solution:- Well, I was guided by my elder cousin who took me through the details of music while it was playing, “What you are listning Vicky in this song is Double base drum roll and hits by the drummer on Zildzian symbols, which are the best symbols in the world”. ” That’s seven string Ibaniz licks on power chord”. ” Listen base and lead are playing off”.

    Melody then started making sense to me out of noise.

    See ya on the other side of Matrix very Soon buddy.

    Vikram Singh

  • shyam

    tnx sanjoy, got some albums to download.

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  • Shiva_17

    Hi Sunjoy
    I think the latest album by Muse (the English alternative rock band),”The Resistance” is also one the finest works of 2009,though it released recently on Sep 14.
    Also the latest release of The Cribs which recently included guitarist Johnny Marr to their lineup,called “Ignore The Ignorant”,is also a fine piece of indie rock composition.
    You said you heard “These are my twisted words” by Radiohead , recently Thom Yorke also released singles “Feeling pulled apart by horses” and “The hollow earth” as solo artist, although these songs are more inclined to Electro-oriented music,but they are as good as the work we usually associate with Thom Yorke.
    I also liked U2’s “No Line On The Horizon”,it remained on my play list for unusually longer amount of time.
    As far as Animal Collective are concerned,you have mentioned them several times and usually like what you recommend in your column,I heard Merriweather Post Pavilion,but I was unable to categorize them in any genre I have listened till now.
    I am really looking forward to Supersonics and I think you should grab some piece of Muse’s work,from somewhere(if you haven’t heard them earlier),they are amazing.
    Enjoy your music…!!!

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  • http://playbutton.blogspot.com Vishal Gandhi

    My favorites of 2009 so far :
    Noble Beast ~ ANDREW BIRD.
    The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion ~ DREDG.
    Wavering Radiant ~ ISIS.
    Crack the Skye ~ MASTODON.
    Part the Second ~ MAUDLIN OF THE WELL.
    No More Stories Are Told Today, I’m Sorry They Washed Away… ~ MEW.
    Backspacer ~ PEARL JAM.
    xx ~ THE XX.

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Shall certainly try some of these. Liked The xx and Andrew Bird. Have you heard the Monsters of Folk, by the way?

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    Vishal Gandhi Reply:

    Hey, have heard of Monsters of Folk but haven’t listened to the album. Am not too keen on “supergroups” and Conor Oberst kinda annoys me. But then Jim James & Matt Ward ain’t too bad. Have you heard M. Ward’s cover of Let’s Dance ?

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    I really like Jim James. Solo as well as party of MMJ. Do check http://www.yimyames.com if you haven’t already. Yes, I find M. Ward nice, in small instalments, though :)

  • Nitin

    Nitin form the Supersonics here…glad you liked the album, Thanks.

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Your music is great. When are you playing a Delhi gig next?

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    Nitin Reply:

    No gig yet…..played at HRC Delhi early last month ….with definitely let you know when we drop in next
    Cheers !!

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  • http://bibekbhattacharya.blogspot.com Beq

    May I also suggest:
    Antony and The Johnsons- The Crying Light (will make you cry, positive!)
    Dirty Projectors- Bitte Orca (stranger than Merriweather, totally album of the year)
    Fastball- Little White Lies (great pop songs)
    Jonsi and Alex- Riceboy Sleeps (Texture laden beauty)
    Various- Dark Was The Night (charity album by American Indie who’s who…lovely songs)
    Phish- Joy (a welcome return)
    Manic Street Preachers- Journal for Plague Lovers
    Arctic Monkeys- Humbug
    Doves- Kingdom of Rust

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  • Vikram

    Dear Sujoy

    I am really a ‘lost case’ in download music. Can you help with procedure of the same:

    Website
    Links
    How
    Any software involved

    .. the works

    Even from your blog I could not do so.

    Thanks
    Vikram Singh
    9818680895
    scb_vikram@yahoo.co.in

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    When Raj asks people on voting day to give him power so that he can show them what he can do, they too will say Tomorrow.

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  • Anonymous

    Kashmiris have a right to settle anywhere in India but not vice versa. Selective integration. All discriminatory legislation need to be reworked. It is a recipe for separatism not integration. By your yardstick, Kashmir is basically an Indian protectorate and entitled to benefits but not vice versa. By the way I am not a Bihari but am proud of the great Indian state of Bihar which produced Nalanda university, the Buddha, Babu Rajendra Prasad and Babu Jaya Prakash Narain and has made immense contribution to our country and civilisation. I am certainly no fan of the likes of Lalu Yadav & co, Afzal Guru and his band, etc.

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  • Anonymous

    Shan,

    Why have you stopped visiting Mr. Sharma’s blog? We all are missing you
    there.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sudhir-Chaitanya/1165089688 Sudhir Chaitanya

    Very impressed. Heartwarming development. One hopes the institution stays as noble and transparent as the darling APJ name in future. Also I am hoping the IIM grads learn to develop a concept called ‘Integrated Development’. Without integrating all systems operating in the society, win-win situation is seldom possible. Just the same feels so nice in these murky political times in the nation! God Bless the brave young nation builders!

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  • masha

    I Love Love Love Vish Puri!!! Been trying to get my hands on the latest one but alas the neighbouring Time-Out has only The Man Who Died Laughing.. The descriptions of the idiosyncrasies of Delhiites are spot on.. I read and say “Totally seen something similar”.

    As a Bangal, I totally get what you mean about the Partition.. My paternal grandmother’s family had to leave their ancestral home in Bangladesh and come over to India in the middle of the night for fear of their lives. Nobody talks about how it was, mostly because not many are left who remember it. I also understand the absence of tangible roots as a probashi. Conversations are so awkward:
    Them: So where are you from?
    Me: I’m a Bengali..
    Them: Oh so you’re from Calcutta!!
    Me: Not exactly, I mean, I did most of my schooling there, but my parents are currently based in Ahmedabad..
    Them: So you stay in Ahmedabad?
    Me: No, I stay in Bangalore/ Chennai/ Delhi/ Mumbai (insert current city of residence)
    Them: *Cross eyed from all the info*

    But then I remember orchids have no grounded roots either and they’re so pretty, so rootlessness isn’t such a bad thing either.. :)

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    Kushal Reply:

    Yes, that’s another thing, Masha. Bengal was partitioned too, but growing up, I hardly ever heard about it.

    And rootlessness can be lovely. So much freedom.

    Why don’t you order books from Flipkart or other online bookstores? There are great discounts and cash on delivery makes it so easy. Now that I hardly travel to Delhi any more, I’m dependent on Flipkart. The Bombay bookstores pretty much suck.

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  • Kushal

    Er… thanks, Kanika. The books are cool.

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  • Abhiroop Banerjee

    One of the best compliments anyone has given me is ‘aah, you create stuff..’ All I did was make an elaborate joke that made that someone laugh a bit! But it sort of put into perspective what, just oh-my-god what an achievement it must be to create an original novel. or a haiku.

    The increasingly shrill demands for content to be made available gratis makes me both happy and nervous at the same time. Happy because it means I’ll save money, obviously. Nervous because free stuff is, frequently and sadly, either not good enough or, stuffed with advertisements or the artist producing it is under the control of the sponsor/patron. Artists on a King’s dole would only produce stuff that will please said King. I want my artists to be independent and rich.

    On the other hand, I am pretty sure that if advertisements were to be taken out, I would almost certainly be unable to afford art/content. It is as alarming to hear about newspapers around the world shutting down as it is to think how much my newspaper will cost me without those ridiculous full cover-page adverts or that page full of laughably competitive obits. Still, if staring at imprisonment for downloading bootlegged art, I’d rather pay for my entertainment and get whatever I can afford than be lumped with ‘free’.

    Cover charge, ticket prices in the olden days? Like old olden?

    *Imagines* …giant, steaming foundry with Egyptian slaves frantically pounding Nero’s bust onto fat bronze discs to be sold as admission tickets for the imminent 67 AD Olympics, with special gold medallions for the chariot race which the Emperor is rumoured to enter with his almighty, unheard of, ten-horse chariot!

    …King Uthiyan Cheralatan stomping off in a huff in the middle of a recital because his soldiers couldn’t control the mass of ticketless fans which barged right into his court to witness the poetry duels during that year’s Tamil Poetry Sangam

    …the Bard goes ballistic when a smarmy lout in tight purple breeches offers him a counterfeit ticket to that evening’s sold out show of Hamlet at the Globe

    …ok now i am overdoing it. but this blog? I dig.

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  • Kushal

    Before Big Bazar launched, they did an extensive study on how we shop. The study showed that Indians don’t like shopping in large areas with lots of space, they like crowded aisles (just like the narrow streets of bazaars) and like the jostle and bump of human contact, rather than open spaces. There was lots more that was different from the west. I read this study in a McKinsey report and I was fascinated.

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  • Pranav Dixit

    Here in the US, there’s a lot of subscribers paying a flat, monthly fee to websites like Netflix and Hulu. Essentially, you pay about $8 a month and watch a ton on TV shows (including past seasons) and movies on-demand via the internet. People have actually cancelled cable connections at home (quite a few, but not the most effective strategy as you tend to miss out on live events like the Oscars, for instance).

    I don’t see this happening in India any time soon (awful internet speeds to begin with) but if/when it does, it will be a game changer in my opnion. essentially, you wil stop caring about what ‘channel’ you get and simply pay for only the shows you want or a flat fee each monthto access them all.

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  • Abhiroop

    I like early mornings because I can catch those idiot pigeons snoozing atop their eggs (there’s a pigeon couple on a ledge I can see from my window which sits on their eggs together in a nest that’s too cozy for the the both of them, while a third one, god alone knows who he is, sleeps facing them, perched on a grille 2 feet away from the nest). They’re supreme fools, the whole lot. The two Householders, as mum and I call them, been sitting on those eggs since July. We think somebody might have secretly taken the eggs down when they were away, hard boiled them and put them back. I know they did this in an English town where the administration finally got fed up of the burgeoning cleaning expenses because there was pigeon poo everywhere.

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    Kushal Reply:

    Good lord, Abhiroop! Surely even hardboiled eggs would be supremely smelly by now?

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  • Pranav Dixit

    I’m generally up and about at 6 or 6:30 unless I’ve had a late night :)

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  • Abhiroop

    We have the History of English in the B.A. syllabus? I totally want to do it then.

    I saw Skyfall last week and it was the first time I’d been inside a theatre since early 2009 when I watched Dilli 6. I remember fondly the first Bond film I saw, the Pierce Brosnan starrer Tomorrow Never Dies, when I was 10, a few days before my 6th standard final exams were to start and oh what a high it was to have watched what I later found out was an A rated film!

    And eh. Men read porn?

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    Kushal Reply:

    We HAD it in Calcutta University in the late 80s, Abhiroop. I can recommend some books if you’re interested.

    And sorry, I made a mistake. Men don’t READ porn, they watch it.

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  • Kushal

    Yay! So I’m not the only disappointed one, Tanu. Thanks for the validation.

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  • Deb

    Me too (to your last sentence). And this movie contributes to what you say in the title of your post i.e. ‘Breaking the Bond’ (with the quintessential Bond fan, that is).

    It’s so refreshing to get an honest opinion from you, when all the reviews (and comments/articles) are going all ga-ga about the so called ‘humanization’ and ‘layering’ and other sorts of blah-blah of Bond. Well, who wants a more ‘humane’ Bond!! (perhaps the kind of people who don’t watch Bond movies in the first place?). I think it all started with the first film with Craig as Bond, ‘Casino Royale, with Bond beaten to a pulp. Something unthinkable in Bond movies of yore, even as he took his fair share on the chin, but always had the last laugh in any encounter.

    Bond movies are perhaps the last bastion of escapism, away from all the realism, like a good ol’ ‘dishum-dishum’ Amitabh movie of the 70s/early 80s, with rather more technical wizardry. And great one liners, the swagger, martinis,… (even if you discount the hot bods). So to deprive Bond fans of all this (in a spurious quest to cater to the tastes of so called ‘politically correct’ viewers) is sacrilege, no less. It somehow… enervates Bond, robs him of the very charm which drew most viewers.

    Me, I’d rather watch an ‘Agent Vinod’ (or, on a bad day, ‘Ek Tha Tiger’), who seems to be an able successor to the original Bond.

    PS: The “unnamed operative” with Bond in Istanbul later metamorphoses into Ms. Moneypenny, M’s assistant, at the end of this movie.

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    Kushal Reply:

    Hooray! Another dissident! Thanks Deb. BIG grin.

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  • Abhishek

    A wonderful obit, packed in rare and delightful anecdotes. Objective. Thanks sir!

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  • Jeered

    What sort of ******* this Vir Sanghvi is? For keeping happy its illegitimate masters happy tranny Sanghvi can go to any extent.

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    bad Reply:

    Nobody takes vir sanghvi seriously anymore after his expose. vir, how are you feeling buddy? your videos are all over youtube.

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  • Sumit Bose

    Mr Vir Dalal, this supposedly “balanced” obituary is liberally saturated with your double-speak. “long before he transformed himself into the Muslim-hating, Pakistan-bashing figure” . Correction sir, he was not a Muslim hating person, his personal physician was Dr. Jalil Parkar, and if he really was a Muslim-hater as you have predigested him to , then common sense dictates, he would not repose his health and well-being to the care of a Muslim physician.
    He was a politician and as is with all politicians, he held a certain hue of the flavour of the views around the spectrum.
    Since the rise of radical Islam, the Pakistan-loving type of Indian Muslims have become an abhorrent entity that seems to be multiplying and morphing into an “ummah-focussed” group. Now this group has always been treated as “son-in-laws” by almost the entire lot of political parties and are always willing to look the other way in any of their transgressions. He was able to position himself in the space that opposes such thoughts/acts, when he had exhausted his “sons of the soil” agenda in Mumbai and Pune.. He summed it succinctly as “landey-prem”

    This struck a immediate resonance with the larger sections of Indians, and he was very successful in high-lighting the attitude of the “candle-light holders and the pseudo-secularists. Muslim mobs could not get into riot mode in Mumbai/Pune with impunity, there was a social-response unit in place while the police awaited “orders” to get into action.
    You have let out a slip that is certain “freudian” and to us who have to tolerate your “op-eds”, long recognize it as “fraudulent”.

    ” I never held any brief for the politics of the Shiv Sena.”… Of course we all know whose whose feet you lick and grovel each waking moment of your day.

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    Rohit Reply:

    Sumit Bose, Hats off to you! what a reply.

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    Kuldeep Saxena Reply:

    Really a fine reply to Vir Sanghvi. Present day Journalists needs to be reminded about their updates on the subject in addition to make them know and be aware of the quality of writings on specific subjects instead just following the culture of their group and the political tilt.

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    RR Singh Reply:

    I salute to Sumit Bose. Muhtod Jawab.

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    Amit Reply:

    Good slap to this Dalal…. Well done Bose ji……..

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  • Umesh

    The author is so biased and has a jaundiced vision. He is happy in making his masters happy and get his piece of bone.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_REXIP2I2IBCPZ5WB2H6WZXBK3I R.S Harits

    very well written. I enjoyed reading it. like some blind folks description of an elephant goes, Bal Thackeray was real,the way their perceptions went.

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  • devil_wheels

    Somehow it is no consolation that he could be funny, charming or pleasant company. The fundamental persona was the public one and that was unlovable. Unless, of course, one happens to love the destructive, even of innocuous things like Valentine’s day cards.

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  • Guest

    Balasaheb is right. Our columnist needs to spend a little time on the treadmill.

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  • Guest

    Could the law minister have been Ramrao Adik ? Drank like a fish, lost his job as Dy CM because he got drunk on an Air India flight and misbehaved with an air hostess.

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  • death of a goonda

    AT LEAST WE CAN NOW CELEBRATE VALENTINE’S DAY IN PEACE

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  • Salil

    I hope as you have consistently referred Mumbai as Bombay you would also call Chennai madras ani Kolkatta as culkatta whenever you refer them. I see is this is deliberate attempt not to respect maharashtrian’s views. You expect others to respect you but you wouldn’t respect them. Right? Or is it something different when others incite emotions and regional pride and when Maharashtrians do?

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    Umesh Dinkar Raut Reply:

    Already have typed my views to Sandeeps post above, but wanted to acknowledge Salil too, :0..

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  • Plumbline

    John 3:15-18…….

    15 so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal
    life.

    16 “For God loved the
    world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes
    in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the
    world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

    18 “There is no
    judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in
    him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son…….

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  • Desi UK

    “it is impossible for any rational person to support, let alone defend, many of Thackeray’s statements or actions” Mr Singhvi, this statement can go with any and every political party in India including your patrons Congress. I don’t know of a political party which is perfect. Didn’t Congress workers killed Sikhs, doesn’t RJD or SP or BSP’s local goonda throw their weight around? Shiv Sena’s brave or foolish to openly admit it’s sins which gives your lot an opportunity to ostracize them.

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  • Desi UK

    “it is impossible for any rational person to support, let alone defend, many of Thackeray’s statements or actions” Mr Singhvi, this statement can go with any and every political party in India including your patrons Congress. I don’t know of a political party which is perfect. Didn’t Congress workers killed Sikhs, doesn’t RJD or SP or BSP’s local goonda throw their weight around? Shiv Sena’s brave or foolish to openly admit it’s sins which gives your lot an opportunity to ostracize them. There are things which Shiv Sena do that I can defend particularly not having Pakistanis & illegal Bengladeshis on our soil. They divided our country in name of their religion now they have their own country and they don’t need to steal poor Indian’s job. At the same time I can not for a moment defend their actions against law abiding fellow Indians who want to live & work in Mumbai peacefully. There are things that Congress does like Nuclear Deal that I support. Bottom Line is and an experienced journalist you should know better – All actions of any political party can not be defended at all times. At times they are irrational and indefensible.

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  • sandeep deshmukh

    “Not bad going for a middle-class Maharashtrian, who would never have been allowed into their offices when he started out.”- well what more does one say about the utter hate, guys like you have for middle class maharashtrians?. But, Mr. Sanghvi, if i may say so, is it not a fitting reply to all those who thought/think like you?..i bet, if have the guts, go, say this at any remote Sena Shakhas, not in, Dadar, Andheri or in Mumbai(it’s no more BOMBAY as you often call it, case of bad education maybe or mental diarrhea ) but some remote village shakha, you’ll get very good reply.

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    Umesh Dinkar Raut Reply:

    After reading through the (somewhat arrogant, but haven’t all the people who ‘call themselves journalists’ been so?) article, I was angry to read this ‘Bombay’ ever so so often by such idiotic pen-holders ( and many a newsreader/s on TV) that I was thinking of a fitting reply to them. But thought of checking these replies just to see how many of us have felt it and I find this. Thanks Sandeep for pointing it out to all those Mumbai haters who flock (like vultures) to this great city just because their hometowns are not able to feed their stomachs and egos enough.

    Every time someone tries to live in British era like this, we know how to deal with it. But by virtue of our great tradition, as Hindus we are taught to be tolerant and forgiving; in the beginning we tend to be polite.

    The just departed great soul, only second to Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, has shown us our strength and weakness (mentioned above) and has united us under ONE GOAL.

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  • kk raja

    PRIDE IN PREJUDICE
    Balasaheb Keshav Thackeray, rest in peace..For Mumbaikars , the demise of the old and ailing Sena chief could well mean the beginning of an end of a legacy he left behind. And for those who were at the receiving end of this legacy, it could even meana sigh of relief. Such was the persona of the man called Balasaheb Thackeray that it attracted both, instant reverence and revulsion in equalmagnitude. Lakhs of people who thronged the streets of Mumbai to pay obeisanceon his final journey represented those who were held captive in imagination ofhis cult status for more than four decades.
    Lakhs others,staying indoors are those who detested his very cult that
    threatened their existence and identity.Love him or hate him, one just cannot ignore Balasaheb.
    Obituaries are pouring out by minutes in channels after channels from distinguished figures of media and politics. Some plain speaking, but mostly exaggerated glorification. Critical reviews are conspicuous by their absence. If one rewinds and plays important milestones inthe life and times of Balasaheb, on what he stood for, the ideas he espousedand most importantly the legacy he started and presided over most part of his political life, the truth could be bitter and hard. For, it was anything but a saga consistent with a rational, non-coercive and secular values. Balasaheb was undoubtedly gifted with anintuitive skill to sense the fissures within our social fabric, divided on caste ,religion, language and ethnic origins. It is no co-incidence that he realised the potential of a huge political capital in this divided sense of identity, particularly in a metropolis city like Mumbai. Considered historically as a city of opportunities, it was only natural that people from across the country of all hues would pour into Mumbai, to eke out a living or to realise their dreams. Mumbai was destined to have a multi-layered composition of its populace . Plurality in terms of language, religions and ethnicity has always been the essence of its identity. A talented Political cartoonist then, for Thackeray, this was a perfect setting to arouse and incite a dormant regional identity of the Maharashtrians, giving birth to a myth called “Marathi Manus”. Deftly using a combination of satire, sarcasm and vitriolics, his oratory and prose succeeded in solidifying this myth in the minds of aimless, rudderless Marathi youths of an entire generation.

    Marginalisation and cultural isolation in own homeland is indeed a strong passion of victimhood that has huge political value. Thackeray the politician used it unabashedly as an effective currency and a potent tool to carve out a distinct political space in Maharashtra. Shivsena ,thus became the Nazi party of this Fuhrer, Sainiks his storm troopers let loose on the streets. The agenda was plain and simple. Threaten, persecute and terrorise all “outsiders”- read non Maharashtrians. This adorer of Adolf Hitler could shockingly play out with impunity the dangerous game of identity politics, as long as there were targets. From south Indians to Gujaraties to North-Indians(UP/Bihar) to Muslims,heand his party invented the causes that were inimical to the interests of his Marathi manus, and so accordingly targeted.What he preached through the party mouth piece “Saamna” , his storm troopers would practice on the streets of Mumbai and Pune. The “Pride” instilled in the Marathi Manus was borne out of prejudice against targetgroups, rather than positive virtues. Thankfully the goons in the guise of Sainiks could not carry out ethnic cleansing and restricted their terror tactics toextortions, destructions, arson and injuring their victims. Slowly yet firmlythis paper tiger sent a strong signal to all non-natives that they were not
    welcome in Mumbai. As he grew in strength, he colonised other parts of
    Maharashtra notably Pune. For those who chose to stay on and continue to workin Maharashtra, he sought a tacit compromise. That is, to give in to his
    dictates’ as and when he issues them.

    Later, as he and his senseless game of identity politics became increasingly irrelevant and a stale theme to arouse or disrupt, he expanded his themes .Although Balasaheb exhibited extreme right wing Hindu nationalistic ideology, the new targets like works of art and literature had wider implications than the narrow Marathi manoos cause. Ironically some of them, like his steadfast stand against any concession to Pakistan or whole hearted support to the Indian Army during the Kargil war were indeed welcome deviations. But essentially, he remained every inch a fuhrer till end. He revered in imposing his will on others, could not brook any dissidence or
    disagreement. Loyalty to him was the ultimate virtue. Authoritarianism, just as
    his idol Hitler, came naturally to him. Even Bollywood and business community could not afford to earn his ire and overtly offered obeisance to him to remain in his good books. The legacy of Balasaheb Thackeray, if at all there is one is unmistakably that of regional extremism, intolerance, rigidity of
    misplaced ideas, coercion ,vandalism,arson, rioting, and plain goondaism. All
    of them, when put in one basket is what Shivsena stand for today ,in stark
    contrast and incongruent to the of 21st century progressive mindset.

    Ironically Balasaheb’s legacy of intimidation played out most eloquently even in his death. While the Mumbai police issued advisories to mumbaikars as if some calamity has struck, Streets and by lanes of this maximum city wore deserted looks with shops and services closing down, peopled remained indoors in hushed silence stocking up essentials for the impending crisis, the designs of the lurking legacy was unmistakably sinister..

    With the end of the phenomenon called Balasaheb Thackeray, his hard core followers may feel deeply marooned. His progenies, Son Udhav and nephew Raj have inherited his legacy to a great extent, both genetically and by virtue of closeproximity. MNS,the mutated version of Shivsena is promising to outdo the latter in the dangerous game of identity politics. But eventually, like all such parochial mindsets, they are all destined to be lost in the sands of time as they will become irrelevant in the growing globalised identity and priorities of Mumbaikars.

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  • d

    I think people needs some kind of mannerism and intellectual thinking to understand Vir’s article. Some people are always ready to influenced by unethical leaders without using their brain in a aggressive manner which leads to create problems to many.. I think people should be more sensible before following up any personality or figure or before burning anybody’s shop or house for stupid reasons they should use their own mind…

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  • Mitra

    Disgusting silly, sycophantic article. Thackerey was a public person, we are not interested in his private life. How many kids lost their parents because of this goonda? We don’t care whether a fascist like him liked movies or was privately funny. It is very disappointing that Vir is trying to make light of his crimes by showing his private side. It doesn’t matter to a mother who lost her kid because of these goons that Thackerey could be funny. I wonder why our journalists are so deferential to powerful people – is it because they expect to receive or receive lot of favours?

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  • Jaichands of India

    The bitter fact is that both Centre and the Maharashtra governments failed dismally; yet India rewarded them with a resounding win in 2009. Therefore, the people of India actually do deserve what they get. Tough, but unavoidable. The reality is also that at that time the Vir Sanghvi’s (later day Jaichands) were singing paens of the rotten governments and now come up with the facts that they always knew to be the truth. These traitors are equally culpable.

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  • Mythbreaker

    we are a soft state question is can we survive as a soft state in 21 century you loose security you loose it all there should be no compromise on internal security that means no appeasement of any community
    India does need a right wing nationalist moment

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001904292850 Raj Singh

    Dude well written and good research work.

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  • Cheryllne

    Thank you for this timely piece. Exquisitely and thoughtfully written.

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  • Akash Satyawali

    I really don`t understand what was meant to be conveyed by the article. Let me start with the last line where you say, it took the nation to handle those terrorists, and the price was paid by Bombay. You seem to toe the line of Shiv Sena here. And the part on the authorities should have informed the media o not cover it, didn`t the media have that sense? At places you narrate it like you were there present when everything took place. I mean what do you exactly think this is? A movie? Whatever happened should surely not be repeated, another thing that does not need to be repeated is an article as such. Just dont understand why people have voted it 5 on5, when other posts happen to be better.

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  • SK

    Hindsight is 20-20, which is what Vir is harping on. It possibly could have been prevented, as was 9/11, but that is an irrelevant question today. Today the question that needs to be asked is what has changed to prevent something like this from happening again? Is there better coordination in place between the intelligence agencies, and how fast is the reaction time once there is an intelligence input. What organisational changes are in place to intercept the next terror attack, whether home grown or from across the border.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/jyothi.shankaran.1 Jyothi Shankaran

    How true. So much information and nobody acted. What a shame! And we were acting as if we were taken by surprise! So, how did the govt come back to power in 2009?

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  • Anonymous

    It’s always easy to do post analysis and blame. Given the Indian geography, population composition, maturing democracy and very many other factors, it’s very difficult to draw certain strategies. We also suffer from enemy within, which make life even more difficult. It’s probably only the time which will make us more responsible in tackling such terror related problems.
    By the way lets also respect the fact that Bombay was renamed to it’s original name Mumbai. If journalist like Vir doesn’t follow the protocol, how do you expect ordinary people of India would?

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  • patriot

    You can not really say all failed Bombay on 26/11 but blame it on poor adminstration and police who is nothing but”Nikami”Please watch Farid Zakaria HBO made documentry on 26/11.Many of our problems are because of Congress party who has appeased all along muslims and that is why we have some enemies within.Corruption is another evil ailment which is part and parcel of Congress party and if you look honestly we have chaos every where.Surprisingly this party is winning again and again because of solid muslims and majority Christian votes.We need immediate change and new honest educated party otherwised we are doomed and there will be no end like Bombay carnage.After 26/11 our Government is doing business with Pakistan as usual like nothing has happened.

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  • raj

    ok, we had intel about this, but when polic start investigation, so called secular brigade will shout innocent slims harassed. when police hv proof of bombs, again secular brigade will shout, police don’t know about bombs, and even its a bomb it was not exploded. after explosion, what use in catching terrorist, when they work from pakistan, so we should improve relationship with pakistan to get culprits. you are alos member of this brigade , mr vir… stop this crocodile tears.
    its reading articles like this which makes me angry.

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    First of all ,instead of attack on Mumbai ,we must say it was attack on India.THe biggest tragedy of the nation is ,we talk as if it was a local incident.IT WAS NOT ATTACK OM MUMBAI BUT ON INDIA.
    Remember initial reactions of pm and other congress leaders.what happened after few months ,we were sending dossiers to pakistan.IS THIS THE WAY TO DEAL ATTACK ON SOVERGNITY OF A NATION.
    Media was playing its role.You could hear sentences like ,how fast life in mumbai became normal.What do we expect from those who are not dead,not to work ,not to eat or live.
    People after cremating even their dear ones has to become normal.
    I feel sad on whole approach.

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  • KSAM

    I am sad to read the story and he is right that our force could save the people but i think this was a planned attack on Mumbai and some big shots were involved. in one sentence i will say This was happened to eliminate The Great Karkare the ATS chief.For this shameful attack we will blame our Leaders(Both from congress and BJP RSS ShivSena) those are selling the country for their selfishness.At that time where were our bravo Shiv Sainiks those say they are nationalist.

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  • Asifiya

    We can expect this from our politicians but Muslims who call Islam a religion of peace can carry this massacre of civilians in name of Islam is more shocking. Besides 26/11, Mumbai has been hit many times by terrorists- all Indian Muslims- acting in name of Islam. This is something we need to debate as well.

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  • http://twitter.com/aumshanti1 aum shanti

    veer sanchvi is kayar sanghvi who is anti national congress’s paid anti national who is hired by hindustan times to get more advertisements

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  • Raj Nath

    For this Dalal, every one can fail, but the only infallible is the Corrupt Party and its Italian ex-maid, University-drop out “hope of the nation” etc etc.
    Sure we know how inept our Police are: didn’t Haji Mastaan, Karim Lala and then Dawood ibrahim build huge fortunes and operate “large-scale operations” with impunity for decades?
    Who are to blame, the police officials whose hands get tied by our beloved Gandhian Congress-men, and inured into protecting the turfs of their political masters or the political leaders who have not only emasculated our police and Army. Our judiciary that permits anti-nationals to conspire against our nation and go hammer and tongs against political rivals, who are out of power?
    There is a large-scale systematic conspiracy of weakening the nation and looting of the treasury, just pointing at the police who are at the receiving end and have to fend for themselves and expecting them to give up their lives when they have paid huge amounts to secure a job, obtained sans merit, is expecting a potato to do the work of a sword in that crucial moment of test of character.

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  • sandeep deshmukh

    Mr. veera Sangvi article is nothing bt the same pompous trumpeting about all that is under the sun and hw he has the best knowledge about it. the fact of the matter is Veera Sanghvi is urban coctail drinking and 5star seelping urchin who never sees how the rest have FAILES MUMBAI, but yeah, VEERA SANGVHI is up in arms when something remotest happens to the neo-rich.

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  • patriot

    Why telling all failed Bombay on 26/11 when it was adminstration and “Nikammi”police responsible for it.But our Government is doing business with terrorist country Pakistan as usual like nothing happened on 26/11 and LeT is now threatning to attack on Vishno Devi temple in Jammu.Untill and unless appeasement by our Government will not stop to muslims we will be always in trouble.It was big mistake to keep muslims after partition.Please see documentry on Mumbai terror narrated by Farid Zakaria and produced by HBO.

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  • Star Canopus

    Mr Gujral was a principled and urbane intellectual as well as a generous, large-hearted Punjabi.

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    GUJRAL HAS NOT LEFT ANY POSITIVE IMPACT ON INDIAN POLITICS.BUT SURELY HIS ERA WAS AN ERA OF KITCHEN CABINETS ,WHEN PEOPLE CHOSE TO BE QUIET OR COMPROMISING FOR GAIN.
    IAM SURE CONGRESS WILL MAKE A SAMADHI FOR HIM. .ARE WE DIFFERENT TODAY? MAY GOD HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE.

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  • Sumit Bose

    Ponder over this; this (journo) Dalal waxes eloquent over another Dalal of Mrs Gandhi, but he drew the line for his dalali and he would not do dalali for her son! And wonder of wonders, this dalal terms this departed soul as a “good man”. This person was one more misguided pseudo-secularist and was an unrepentant “candle-light holder”. I wonder if he chose to be a candle-light holder just for protection against Islamic terrorism unleashed upon India and wonder if he would yet be holding impotent candle-light vigils, if his near and dear ones were victims of Islamic terrorism?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/rahul.diddi Rahul Diddi

    IK Gujral was a friendly, urbane ambassador to the Soviet Union when I was a student there. He loved life and adapted to Moscow’s conditions by being the only Indian ambassador who enjoyed skiing in Moscow’s cold winters. He was very friendly to us students. I have very fond memories of the few meetings I enjoyed with him in Moscow.

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  • Sad sad sad

    It is truly sad, and an evil portent for my beloved country, that a self acknowledged goonda like Bal Thakeray is mourned publicly and in the press, but the passing of a true gentleman like Mr Gujral is hardly even in the news.

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  • Suparna Salahuddin

    suave, intellectual, well-spoken and a think -tank, no doubt. Had more potential in foreign policy diplomatic areas. His potential could have been well-utilized if he stayed back in adviser’s team of Prime-minister. His decision for taking up prime-minister ship was a wrong step.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/selman.khan.3 Selman Khan

    He Was indeed a Good Guy.When the anouncement of his becoming the PM was made I happened to be in Okhla just near his house in Maharani Bagh in G block.I went to congratulate him and found I could cooly go to his house with no Bheed around his sardarji secretary made me comfortable in a room where where Gujaral saheb came offered Barfi. Perhaps the crowd was waiting at his official residence.

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  • Anonymous

    ” was Mrs Gandhi’s thug-like younger son, Sanjay”
    Should not section 66 A of the IT act 2000 be invoked.

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  • Guest

    Anyone who stood up to Sanjay Gandhi at the height of his extra constitutional authority must have been a brave and honorable man.

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  • vijay !

    Ik Gujral was a big disappointment as a PM. Just when narasimha Rao had managed to match ISI with RAW, Dawood with Chotta Rajan, Syed Gilani with Altaf hussain…. IK gujral surrendered everything for eating Kababs with Nawz Sharif.

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  • Kalpana

    This is the lamest pro-government rant that one could have written. Why should the economy need “revival” if people are rich enough to buy gold? Why should there be any thought of enhancing the urban population? Why is there this pro-urban bias? Of course thinking about all that is beyond the pale of Pratim Pal, who needs education. REAL ONE.

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  • Sumeet

    what a nonsense article by Pramit Pal

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  • Mishra

    It is good news that people are investing in Gold rather than in Life Insurance(Benefits only insurance companies) and Stock, which is virtual wealth, compared to Gold which is real wealth. If every house hold is rich , then they can not be exploited by Multinational, Govt. or Big Companies.

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  • Not so professionals

    Dear Pramit Pal Chaudhuri or the publisher of Hindustantimes, please kindly let me know what you mean for “India is the world’s largest goal importers” (you mean for goals which scored in football and hockey). Please check out second para, first line of your above published article.

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    momn doter Reply:

    get a life man

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  • balaji

    1) less production of gold in domestic goldmining results in increase of gold imports,

    2)low export or less production of exportable goods results in huge trade deficit……..

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  • Ganesh Balimidi

    MBA degree is necessary in today’s business world. So the candidates who are working after doing their bachelor degree they can do MBA.

    School of Business Management Bangalore

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  • Nirav

    Zia haq… Now u should know why people call u muslim and not n Indian…long way for namakharams like you to go …to become fit to deserve this nation

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  • hramkhor_zia

    why should Modi have to wear a skullcap? He is not a muslim! Why don’t you question any Muslim leader for not putting a tilak on their foreheads? You are willing to pardon thousands of Congress’ yuvraaj’s mistakes and yet you dare to find faults with Modi? You should be ashamed of yourself. The whole media has been extremely critical of Modi while being sycophantic to Gandhi parivar. This media does an extreme disservice to India and we should root out such morons and publicly embarrass them. STOP YOUR BIASED ARTICLES!

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  • Shiva Prasad

    I agree with you that since you are a muslim, you are going to use the power of pen to manipulate and go after modi in the name of journalism and pretend to be non-biased blogger while writing about Raul. Its ok. We got it. You think people are stupid and they can’t see the underline tone of your blogs. Lets look at the facts. Is it very important in a mult-faith society for Modi to wear a skullcap? Will you be ok in a multi-failth society to eat Pork or pray in front of a temple? Modi is a politician and he does not need to wear a middle eastern culture of Islam of skull caps borrowed by Indian muslims. If this was a cultural thing like wearin a Gandhi cap and Modi refuses but how can you blame him for cap? Come on Zia you know and we know that this is bull. Lets look at other questions you asked to Roul. You ask a question and then conveniently say that Roul is not responsibile for answering that question. Wow. Now, lets look at Gujrat. When you talk about Gujrati riot victims how come in a multifaith society you dont ask about those Hindu victims which were burnt in a Hindu Country openly when they were returning from Ayodhya? How come you as a non-biased journalist not ask the question to Modi about compensating all victims irrespective of muslim riot victims?

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    ShivaPrasad, the continous din over a decade has effectively blocked out that nearly 250 Hindus were killed by the so called “victims of genocide” during the same riots. Even the common Indians were unaware of it and even you seem oblivious to those numbers of Indians killed, besides the people who were burnt at the the compartment by the “victims of genocide”.

    Leave alone this ZiaMian, even the courts seem to treat those deaths as non-existant, because there exits no Corrupt Party, no Zakia, no Teesta Setalvad, no Mallika , no R@NDITV to shed any tears for them.

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    piyush Reply:

    shiva nice ques bro….we are seculars….we believe in multi faith,…and so does modi

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  • Shiva Prasad

    We have few problems with Indian press/media and so called these bloggers like Zia and newspapers like HT and journalists like Seema Mustafa, Barkha, Sardesai, Josey Josephs of the world. First, the owners of NDTV, HT, are all sold to Congress anyway. For them it is a matter of money and so Congress with its full kitty after looting for 65 years can give all the money to media/press to buy them out. Next, comes the hindu journalists. They are all for SALE and some of them are leftist intellectuals who are ok to follow communism, islam, christianity but they are anti-Hindus. The one’s who are on sale like Barkha gets paid from ISI routed through Dawood to control Indian media. And the rest of the journalists are fundamentalist journalists like Seema Mustafa, Josey Joseph or Zia for who their religion comes first, then journalism second and being Indian is the last or never a priority. Show me any Islamic country where minorities gets equal rights except Turkey which is also going now Islamic. In Saudi, Porkistan, Iran, Iraq, or even Malaysia there are no rights for minorities. Islam preaches no multifaith so when you are in a minority then people like ZIa talk about multifaith society blah blah but when they become majority all rights are curbed of minorities. Everywhere they fight with Christians but when it comes to India Muslims are supporting Christian Sonia. WHY?

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  • Truth

    Dear Editor @ Hindustan Times, If you can’t find meaningful journalists/writers, I’ll write articles for you’ll but please do not employ such freelancers who bring disrepute to journalism. Gandhi is NO WHERE COMPARABLE TO MODI. Becuase everyone wears different types of topis doesn’t mean that MODI also wear skull-cap. Secularism does not get exhibited by merely wearing a skull cap but by exhuding in ones actions. You’ll want to stay Muslims and hence you’ll are not becoming Indians. Rahul Gandhi is a mere meowing cat, but MODI has got a LIONS ROAR. SIT has given him clean chit, don’t you Muslims understand that India is losing a leader by unnecessarily embroiling him in 2002 riots where he had absolutely no role to play.

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  • Roger

    Typical write up from someone who can’t see real difference between Modi and Rahul. Modi isa doer. He may be exaggerating his capabilities and so may be media. But Rahul is really a moron who started with a golden spoon encrusted with diamond which today looks like an aluminum one, like his father who proved to be hugely incompetent. Nehru dynasty post Mrs. Indira gandhi is nothing but a joke – full of nincompoops, charlatans and cheats.

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  • Javed

    gujrat is not first in this .. state X is first, guj is 3d

    gujrat is not first in that … state Y is first, guj is 2nd

    gujrat is not first in abracadabra .. state Z is first guj is 4th

    it takes scores of other states to together keep guj out of first position. but hv u ever wondered d1ckheads – if guj is near top in many many indices what positive effect it has on people’s lives? what is means cumulatively? look at overall picture not some pedantic stats to suit your biased agenda

    Admit it Modi has done an excellent job, and we DONT just deserve him as PM, we desperately NEED him.

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  • Javed

    and all those writing slanting drivel on positive of Rahul Gandhi – can you enlighten us on 1 thing in clear decisive way

    What are Rahul’s achievements that make our lives better? making it easy – Explain only one

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    kanishka Reply:

    Direct result of a lucky sperm who won the race of its survival almost 44 years ago and grew 70 inches from mere 0,001 inch in just first 18 years.

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  • anil

    Stop taking Modi’s and Rahul’s name in same breath.

    It’s simply an insult to people’s consciousness. to see some one like Modi is being compared to Rahul.

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  • kanishka

    @Author “Progress must be shared and inclusive, he said, which is to say that everybody must benefit from economic progress. Can there be a bigger answer for India, still home to one of the world’s poorest population?”

    How is Modi stopping Muslims from eating the fruits of double-digit development which has reached every where in Gujarat, is beyond the educated readers? Is he stopping Muslims from walking on the roards, not getting electric connections that has reached every village, not letting the water drink from the piped connection? Has Modi changed any law or introduced any law that descriminates on the basis of religion being Muslim?

    Miaji, you are NOT worried about dozens of states where there is either very little or no progress. Nitish has raised the level of child malnutrition to an alarming level of 82% which, in your narrow opinion, is INCLUSIVE becasue it takes care of all children of non-elite Biharis. Funny and strange how your argument can pass even the smell test to appear in HT.
    Any growth rate which is 6% or below is just status quo if you take into account the 30-35 million new mouths added every year. The growth in UPA2 is under 6%. So there is in fact no growth under Khangrace so what is threre to share?

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Kanishka, wonderful posts and very germane to the blow the blinkers worn not only by this ZiaMian, but by the entire english media. Keep it up, you are very effectively neutralizing the pseudo-sickulars and pseudo-arabs.

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  • kanishka

    @Author “Why did he refuse a skullcap presented to him as an honour by a Muslim? Doesn’t he believe in multi-faith?”

    The day Mauni baba MMS accepts and WEARS a skull cap or Khangrace Soniamma wears a BURKA presented to her, we will ask Modi to accept the skull cap.

    BTW, Modi did accept a shawl with Koranic verses in the same function. Google it agnorant.

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  • kanishka

    April 20, 2013 – Modi took on those criticizing Gujarat, saying,
    “The prime minister MMS Mauni Baba today presented an award for
    excellence in public administration in the organization category,
    for Gujarat’s skill development program.

    This award has shut the mouths of
    those like ZIA Mian who are trying to defame Gujarat and spread lies about the state

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  • kanishka

    -“INCLUSIVE GROWTH” HAS BECOME A NEW CODE WORD used against Modi by Khangrace menions REPLACING SECULAR. INCLUSIVE GROWTH COMES FROM EMPLOYMENT AND EMPLOYMENT COMES FROM NEW INDUSTRIES AND SERVICES WHO HIRE PEOPLE WITH SIKLLS.

    Modi govenment has provided 800 crores for 60 million Gujaratis in 2013 budget ONLY FOR SKILL DEVELOPMENT while UPA/Khangrace has provided only 1000 crores for the entire country of 1250 million and employement comes from GOOD GROWTH OF INDUSTRY, SERVICE AND GOVERNANCE which Modi has been providing in Gujarat since 2002.

    Are you trying to pull wool, not just over the eyes of the readers but all over their BODIES? You looser.

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  • Javed Khan

    Mohsin Mian here are the actual questions we should ask Muslims like you happen to remain in India even though a country was carved out of HIndustan for you all and it was called Pakistan so that you all can go there. Then what happened. How come you and your forefathers stayed in India? Now back to basics. A tea seller knows more about India than this so called highly educated cultured psuedo secular people like MMS and Roul and Salman Khurshid who probably are not in touch with any ordinary Indians. Second he doesn’t have to know physics or chemistry…he is not our Chief Scientist for God’s shake…he is a duly elected administrator of one of our states where Indians elected him. Off course, you will disagree with these Indians who elected him again and again but you are you ready to be unpatriotic to go with a foreign born fascist christian lady since it plays well with your religion…as they say for you India can go to hell as long as you are are a muslim first. Now, more importantly we Indians believe in our SC more than these politicians. Even our CJI is a muslim. In spite of SC having a muslim CJI, our democracry has shown that even after so much effort by people like you and Theesta and other fundamentalist SC has not found anything against Modi. Now, if you dont stop blaming him for 3000 innocent muslims then man…you need to go back to Porkistan. 30 Crore Muslims should be worried about showing courage to go against their fundamentalsist mullah, and people like you and Zia.

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    Ramdev Reply:

    I agree with Javed. Lets give respect to Modi and look at the facts. I agree we believe in SC and SC in spite of the best efforts of all have not found anything against Modi. In fact, SC has to reprimand (dont know why she was not sent to jail) Teestha for falsyfying testimonials. Now, if Modi said go and kill muslims that is not right..but he didnot. Was he not effective in controlling the riots immediately…well he was not. So was MMS not when it came to Assam or J&K or other places. Does that make MMS, Sonia, Chiddu and others guilty. They didnt control the Sikh riots. So does that make Sonia and Rajiv (post dead) guilty? Now the facts are that I am proud that Modi didnt wear Skull cap. He is hindu and he never said he needs to pretend to be something else. He also didnt say that muslims cannot wear skull caps in Gujrat and that would be not right. Instead what I hate is Mullah Mulayams and Sonia who pretend to be muslim friendly and wear all these skull caps but in reality are looters of our society as a whole. Lets give kudos to Modi for standing up in what he believes in and still able to convey that message not falsyfhing.

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  • bob the mango man

    Rahul is like a demure bride who desparately wants to be screwed, but keeps on denying the desire to show the world her demeanour!

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  • kanishka

    Like a box of parrots, Aakar Patel, Ram Guha, others and also ZIA,
    everyone in the media used to talk about “Malnutrition” in Gujarat until March 2013 report of the CAG.. Even students who were called for debates were tutored to talk of “Malnutrition” in Gujarat. Funny huh? Malnutrition is a national problem and so too in Gujarat, maybe across the
    world in many countries. But where the other tags failed they are now into the “Malnutrition” song and dance routine. Here’s how their mundane rant has become and how foolish it really sounds:

    Great roads in Gujarat: Okay, but what about malnutrition?

    Great infrastructure in Gujarat: Okay, but what about malnutrition?

    24X7 Power supply: Okay, but what about malnutrition?

    24,400 MW installed capacity in 2012: So what? What about malnutrition?

    Drinking water from Sabarmati: Okay, but what about malnutrition?

    Special incentives girls: Okay, okay, but what about malnutrition?

    Crores investmented in Industry: Yeah alright, but what malnutrition?

    Women can move safely: Who cares? What about malnutrition?

    Modi is not corrupt & incorruptible: Corruption is normal, Modi is ABNORMAL, what about malnutrition?

    Sex-determination tests banned: Minor issue, what about malnutrition?

    GDP growth well above national average: Fine, fine, what about malnutrition?

    Double-digit Agriculture growth for years: See the “larger” picture, what
    about malnutrition?

    800 crores in 2013 budget of Gujarat for skill development: borrowing
    too much; you are trying to divert the issue. what about malnutrition?

    Fifth largest GDP in 2012 ($105B) increased to $138B in 2013 –
    STOOOOOP IT! TALK ONLY ABOUT MALNUTRITION

    Today just replace the word “MALNUTRITION” from above with “INCLUSIVE GROWTH” and notice the same rigmarole of pseudo-secularists.

    All the achievement in such a short span does not mean Gujarat has become a “developed” state like USA, JAPAN or Germany. Modi admits that development is a work-in-progress and there is still long way to go. Development is like a tree sapling and must be irrigated with hard work and good governance for another decade to let the tree mature to bear enough fruits for everyone to enjoy the fruits from the matured tree of development. Bribing poor with DIRECT CASH require NO development or growth and can bring laziness among all poor with inclusiveness and anarchy.

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  • suryodaya

    Unfair comments on Mr. Modi. The author of the article is from a minority community. It did not indicate the interest of Mr. Haq; is he a political writer? or he is writing for somebody? by bringing in skull cap issue, he is trying to colour Mr. Modi. The first question on this issue is: (i) why a Hindu should wear a skull cap? (2) Skull cap belongs to jewish people first, and then the muslims second. No other person will wear it. I quote from Wiki: “those of high society routinely shaved their heads, to prevent lice.
    Conversely, their skullcaps then served as protection against irritation
    from their wigs.” I found this quote from yahoo: Muslims wear the cap to emulate Muhammad. The companions of Muhammad
    were never seen without their heads being covered. In order to emulate
    their actions, Muslims throughout the world wear a variety of tagiyah
    caps, fez hats, and other headgear. Another goal of wearing a tagiyah is
    to be more like Muhammad and therefore obey and follow his tradition.
    The tagiyah cap is not a modern invention within the US-based Muslim
    community, but a tradition from antiquity. In fact, ancient Arabs had
    the habit of always wearing something on their heads. They considered it
    inappropriate not to wear headgear like the keffiyeh.” Thus, it is clear that offering Skull cap to Mr. Modi was a mischievous action by muslims; Wearing skull cap does not make a secular. Let the muslims offer the skull cap to the PM or the President. Skull cap indicates a person’s faith and surrenderbefore Mohammed, which no Hindu will accept. Hindustan times should have removed this item from the article before publishing it. It is offensive.

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    the head during prayer. Some Muslims use a prayer mat during
    salat. It is common for men to wear a tagiyah during weddings. Peace.

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  • suryodaya

    After reading all the comments, mostly contributed by hindus including mine, I have come to the conclusion that comments indicate very few muslims are nationalists, and Zia Haq is not one among them. A hindu friend commeted that Congress President being a christian should wear burka to show solidarity (not secularism) to Mohammed’s followers. Muslims are not adopting the Indian society’s habits and cultures, and they continue to copy and follow middle east (there is nothing called middle east p- a creation of US christians). All the muslims kingdoms and democracies are floating islands. No muslim country will accept the Indian muslims as their brothern and allow them to get employment, seek permanent residence, or citizenship. The Indian muslims are just a crowd for those island nations and assimilate their customs and traditions and not the one indians follow.

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  • piyush

    he asks if modi doent believe in multi faith…i want to ask you mr zia haq…do u believe in multi faith? if yes,then how many times in your life you have bowed in temple and wore the tika? or read the bible in church? or went to gurudwara and ate langar?

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  • kanishka

    K2E, what was the qualification of Mohmad, the pedo whom you follow as a model?

    A tea seller knows more than a person livng in palace, about the real problems of real people. He has not sold the tea in his 45 years of adult life. He has run one of the most progressive state successfully since 2002. Unlike Papistan, India PM or CM has an army of able and competent advisors in each area and they take decision based on advice. True leader needs vision for future and convince the followers. Modi has both. You are a looser Jehadi and has no idea of Indian politics.

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    Mohmad Chutiya Reply:

    Moh-mad had lots of qualifications as a human monster. He was a nymph who had many wives. He married even a 9 year old daughter of his friend and claimed Allah told him so. He created this world’s fanatic cult called Islam where he borrowed eastern philosophy and then twisted it for his own benefit. He wanted multiple gals so there you go..Islam allows multiple wives. He used women as object of his desire so there you go…put them in Burkha and make them serve the husbands. Mohammed saw that his country Saudi was a poor country (at that time oil was not discovered) so he said come to mecca at least once in lifetime…so that his country’s economy can benefit. If Allah is everywhere why go to Mecca? Yeah Yeah…justify it till the cows go home. Ok…so more on Moh-mad. He justified the most brutal religion in the name of God (Allah) by stating that one can butcher an animal and let them die painfully. How inhuman Mohmad was? Then kill all the Khafirs…even though they can be good huamns?

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  • raul baba ka ghanta

    hahhahhahhahahahhaaaaa…….how bout this, Rahul was caught redhanded in US for possession of drugs and is an imbecile, illiterate, was thrown out of harvard Univ where his admission was guaranteed by a large donation by his family….oh these are not achievements, then you must be asking a wrong question. rafool forever………er Raul forever……whatever……………..

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  • Mohsin Chutiya

    Mohsin Bhai, you are telling me that a foreigner who happens to be a Christian, who was a maid and waitress, who is from Italy where Fascism came from, Sonia who is a mafia white supremist is OK but an Indian born patriotic person of a Hindu India who is not guilty of any crime is not worthy of becoming PM? Unfortunately, Mohsin Bhai we are the sufferers. We gave your forefathers land called Porkistan to go and live there didnt realize that you all will end up taking our land and still stay here and try to screw us. Also, instead of making Patel as our PM we ended up making nincompoop Nehru as our PM who in return brought us to this stage where when we got independence we were told that muslims will move to Porkistan and we had about 3 crores of you left over in India and today you have grown to 30 Crores where 10 crores are illegal in India from Bangladesh. And by claiming that Modi killed 3000 innocent muslims is like saying you all muslims killed Hindu Pundits in J&K, you all muslims killed all the terrorist attacks in India which is not the case right? So stop blaming Modi and start to blame Jinnah, Bukhari, Owaisi, SIMI and others for your this fate.

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  • Magdalenesmith

    Rahul Gandhi is a very Great Leader in the Indian Politics whenever Narendra are the Killer of Thousands of Minority Muslim in the Gujrat Violence .Rahul is not Hungry to achieve a PM post whenever Narendra Modi is so crazy to achieve a PM post .

    http://www.prlog.org/12112705-6pm-coupon-code-extra-savings-up-to-75-enjoy-2013s-big-deal.html

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    Magdalenesmit Chutiya Reply:

    Oh…and your friend Sonia is a killer of Thousands of Sikhs, Hindu Pundits in J&K, Hindus in Assam. Your friend Rahul is a playboy who failed 10th class but uses his surname to rob India. Are you one of his Chamchas?

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  • bharat

    Rahul Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi should explain how their “private company” Young Indian managed to take over 2000 crores+ worth of real estate belonging to Associated Journal/National Herald using Congress party funds and why they made Congress Treasurer Motilal Vora and Karnataka Congresswallah Oscar Fernandez 10% owner of teh CompanyPriyanka Gandhi’s husband Robert Vadra and his mother Maureen should explain the business model behind the land deals in Congress ruled states which makes the two richer by hundreds of crores.

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  • Maurya

    first of all India does NOT have 30 crore muslims- That is a popular Islamist lie, to increase Islamic influence in india. 30 crore will be the total number of muslims in India and Pakistan combined! India has less than 15% muslims….125 crore- 15% = less than 18 crore muslims!!! You just doubled it eh??Nice taquiya!!! I am surprised nationalist commentators usually believe this 30 crore islmist **** and dnt try to dispute it!

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    Michael Fernandes Reply:

    What he meant was that they are 15 crores now and they are ready to take another illegal Bangladeshi’s and Myanmar Muslims to the tune of 15 crores. Look at this from India’s perspective. These Desh Drohi’s (unpatriotic) bas…tards will even claim Bangladeshi and Myanmar muslims into India does not matter if it hurts India as a country. These nalayaks will sell the country in the name of religion. Why Gandhiji Why? Why didnt you let these desh Drohi’s leave the country? From 1947 to 1948 you could have created a safe corridor where all muslims can leave India once for all. Why Gandhiji Why? Why are we stuck with these anti-nationalist zeolats. They are ready to partner with faschist white christian sonia and anti-Indian muslims from Bangladesh who bring in ISI routed money and fundamentalism. How do we get rid of these people? Boycott Shahrukh Khan and all the so called Khans and muslims in real life? If they are going to make it Modi versus muslims even though modi is not guilty should we make it hindu versus muslims? This is the Congress we voted which divided us into muslims and hindus? No muslim talked like this as anti-nationalist before? WHY?

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  • Anonymous

    Has Rahul done anything for the “aam aadmi” with his powers so far ? Has Modi done anything for the “aam aadmi” with his powers so far ? If you can find the real answers to the above two questions, you’ll know who deserves what type of treatment.

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  • Anonymous

    What drives Zia to write such blogs?
    - Absolute hatred for anything Hindu
    - Muslim communalism and separatism

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    Michael Fernandes Reply:

    Agreed. Amen.

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  • Abhi

    “Why did he refuse a skullcap presented to him as an honour by a Muslim?”
    Modi will gladly wear a scull cap if the Muslim who offered it to Modi will wear a tilak.

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  • Anonymous

    That is superb. I just can’t stop laughing.

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  • Shridhar

    I am not a Modi baiter nor fawn over Rahul, but it is sickening to see the direction of discourse that we go into when we talk about this subject.

    Granted that a lot of people think that Rahul does not have qualify to be India’s PM or that he is the leader of Congress only because of his birth, why is it so wrong to ask some tough questions (which are valid enough) to someone we think “deserves” to be our PM?

    The only answers that we have received from Narendra Modi are those that he has chosen to answer. Is it healthy for a person we think deserves to be our PM to walk out if the question is too tough to his liking

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ANd what are the answers you have received from Rahul?

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    Shridhar Reply:

    none so far and I am not one of the “Rahul-for-PM” callers. but it disturbs me that a person who we say “is-needed” as the PM of the country chooses not to answer inconvenient questions. Whenever the questions are asked, his “supporters” choose to abuse, shout down and obfuscate rather than answer the questions.

    Narendra Modi may have done some good work in Gujarat (and I am no expert on that), but leadership cults have never done any country any good

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  • http://www.facebook.com/deepakj Deepak Jain

    Are you saying that either Prithviraj Chauhan or Manohar Parrikar should be projected as the next PM? Be objective yaar.

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  • Faulitics

    Zia Mian, don’t you have any shame at all to put out a third rate hit piece like this? That skullcap BS is laughable. If you really want to do a hit piece, atleast put some real work into it.

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  • rajesh

    its nothing but a piece of shit

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  • amitabh.jha19

    I think the basic problem of u porkistanis are that you are brainless. No matter what the whole world will do to u you will always hit them hard. What Modi has done is 1. Corruption free stat. When u see in center where people are just looting and raping india Modi clean governance is like a white spot on the black face.
    2. He taught mulism a lesson in 2002. Otherwise can u imagine what u people could do if we wouldn’t reacted that way.
    .3. He thinks.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    TYPICAL RESPONSE AS EXPECTED FROM SOMEONE WHOSE SURNAME IS JHA.
    Particularly no 2.
    Then what can you expect from a bihari bhucchar , how dalit women this ******* have defiled , no wonder ALL THE RECENT RAPISTS OF MINORS IN DELHI HAIL FROM VILLAGES OF BIHAR
    By the way I AM A MODI FAN

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  • balajimaharashtra-karnataka

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    *****(congress and bjp both are not in interests of regional people they represent the syndicate of some communities which work for wellbeing of their own communities and these communities have strong hold on telecom sector and media,

    so it is advised to all regional state people to become alert for interest of their own regional or local communities or beware to choose local parties only for better future of their childrens also……)*****

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    karnataka people should vote only for regional local karnataka parties only because :—-

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    (1)***** advani was bjp pm candidate for 2004 and failed or defeated….*****

    (2)***** advani was bjp pm candidate for 2009 and failed or defeated….*****

    (3) *****advani may want to be pm candidate for 2014 and will fail or defeated again……..*****

    (4)*****india is country of regional parties/multi state parties,*****

    (5)*****and bjp is also a regional party though it claims as national party but its hold is limited to central india or gujrat permanently ………….*****

    (6)*****and congress is only multi state-single family party though it claims as national party …………..*****

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  • balajimaharashtra-karnataka

    correct analysis :——-
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    *****(congress and bjp both are not in interests of regional people they represent the syndicate of some communities which work for wellbeing of their own communities and these communities have strong hold on telecom sector and media,

    so it is advised to all regional state people to become alert for interest of their own regional or local communities or beware to choose local parties only for better future of their childrens also……)*****

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    karnataka people should vote only for regional local karnataka parties only because :—-

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    (1)***** advani was bjp pm candidate for 2004 and failed or defeated….*****

    (2)***** advani was bjp pm candidate for 2009 and failed or defeated….*****

    (3) *****advani may want to be pm candidate for 2014 and will fail or defeated again……..*****

    (4)*****india is country of regional parties/multi state parties,*****

    (5)*****and bjp is also a regional party though it claims as national party but its hold is limited to central india or gujrat permanently ………….*****

    (6)*****and congress is only multi state-single family party though it claims as national party …………..*****

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004774505920 Harpreet Singh

    I agree with Narendra modi

    For quite some time, there have discussions at the national stage as
    why should Modi be the next PM of India. Well, the reasons are
    definitely very simple, people are supporting and in a democracy, the
    opinions of people are everything.

    Time and again, Modi has proved himself as a skilful administrator
    who has the skills to tackle difficult situation. Before Modi, Gujarat
    was in a great amount of chaos and most of his predecessors could not
    tackle the pressure. But, what Modi did was really appreciable.

    He improvised himself as per the demands of the job and converted Gujarat into a vibrant

    and peaceful state.

    At this moment, the whole of India needs a peaceful nation which can
    develop in the economic sphere too. For a long time, prolonged
    inflations and degrading administrative

    setup has caused a lot of problems in India. It’s high time now that Modi takes over the

    controls and brings India to the top of the world.

    So let us have a close look at the things Modi can do to revolutionise India’s administrative

    infrastructure:

    ✓ Modi definitely has the potential to take effective and strong
    counter-terrorist actions. He has already done a lot to reduce the
    anti-India elements that were brewing up in Gujarat. It is expected that
    he will do the same as soon as he takes over as PM.

    ✓ A serious problem that Modi has promised to solve is the problem of
    illegal immigration from neighbouring nation, especially Bangladesh.
    So, if he can deal with this problem as the PM, we can definitely look
    forward to political stability in the border districts of states like WB
    and Assam.

    ✓ Revolutionizing the economy is on the top of ‘to-do list’ as far as
    Narendra Modi is concerned. He has already done it in Gujarat by
    turning the state into one of India’s richest. So, all eyes are on
    Narendra Modi as he can really revolutionise the entire nation’s
    economy.

    ✓ Moreover, Modi is one of those few leaders who have the quality of
    keeping promises. Unlike most others, Modi’s ability of delivering on
    promises has made him a darling of the people. He has remained incumbent
    for a long time and will continue to do so as he delivers his promises
    with passion and true dedication.

    ✓ As far as security issues are concerned, Modi will take a harsh stand against all anti- national elements.

    So, these are the X-factors that make Modi the strongest contender in
    the race for PM. It is widely expected that he will be the next PM and
    help India to regain supremacy as it had in the days of Atal ji. All of
    us, from all parts of India have a lot of expectations from the
    architect of vibrant Gujarat.

    Whatever be the factors, Narendra Modi will fight with positive
    spirit against all obstructions between him and New Delhi. The entire
    nation has its eyes set on the 2014 general elections that will be the
    real test for Modi. http://modiwins.com/

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    Shah Dipesh Reply:

    I m also wid NA.MO.

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  • Anonymous

    Zia

    You seem seriously worried that MOdi is going to be the PM. Well for too long the paid media tried to blow the trumpet of Rahul… and after 9 years when Rahul spoke for the first time– he failed all. He is a raw gay who I wont even make the president of HIndustan Times, forget the PM of India. Honestly you should keep aside the money the Congress pays to bribe journalists and tell us why

    a) You wrote a sycophantic piece praising Salman Khurshid when that guy even thieves from the handicapped.

    b) Do you think burning 59 priests alive wont cause communal passions to flare up? Gujrat riots was once such madness where 1000 people both HIndus and Muslims died. But so conveniently the act of burning the 50 priests alive has been forgotton

    c) Modi has governed for 9 years. Rahul has only paid people money to blow his trumpet. Why dont you ask him to do some job– even as say a call centre guy and show us his talent?

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    engricn Reply:

    Do you think burning 59 priests alive wont cause communal passions to
    flare up? Gujrat riots was once such madness where 1000 people bot

    zhoote jansanghi kisi ka nam batao.bogey was reserved from kanpur and all passenger are alive.again i ask u to give me the name of one priest.sala zhooton ka bazar garam kar rakhkha hai.

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    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    Thumhara gur Chacha hafees is zhoot anumbe r1. Thum jhoot bol kar katal e aamm karte ho.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you got this news from Madrassa disinformation times

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    engrich Reply:

    kisi ka nam batao jisko insurance ya goverment se paisa mila ho.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Zia Haq,

    you could have cut a long story about Rahul short and crisp by simply stating the stark truth: “Rahul isn’t articulate enough”. You could have also been honest enough to say that Rahul doesn’t have in him that which people look for in a PM even from a member of the dynasty.

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  • Anonymous

    If hindu leaders have to prove their secularism by wearing a topi and attending iftars then muslim leaders should don a Tilak and take part in singing vande matram. How about visiting temples to reciprocate hindu leaders visiting dargahs?

    This secularism can no longer be one way street.

    I can say with 100% confidence that 99.99% muslims are communal and majority of them are very intolerant. They should first learn to respect other faiths and people and then crib.

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    engrich Reply:

    modi should go to jail for killing innocents in gujrat during riot .all jansaghi lies are only lies.muslims are 100%communal not 99% even then if somebody kill anyone should go to gallows.this is our constitution.
    so like parvez mushshsaraf he should be sent to jail.

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  • Bhavik

    Show me an offshore account with Mr. Modi’s name on it and I will believe those who are against him. During search what you will instead find is his track record for lifting the morale and self respect and livelihood of majority of Gujaratis. While most congress leaders, sonia’s and her family members were busy depositing yours and mine money to their off shore accounts. Get real and stop pointing at one thing Mr. Modi may or may not be responsible for and focus on hundreds of scams and riots that unveiled under corrupt congress leaders. Where were they during other riots across nation, during hundreds of scams, and where were you to comment on them. If Indians don’t elect Modi as their PM you all are going to go in even dipper shit than what you already are in. While Rahul is inexperienced and soft, Mr. Modi is the only leader who is strong (speaks less, does more), experienced, and capable to regain the self respect among Indians across globe and strengthen the morale of this country especially if we want to stop our neighbors from laughing and tampering at us. If you want globe to respect India, your IT skills or entrepreneurship skills isn’t going to be enough, you need the pride in action for your country, not words which Mr. Modi has demonstrated under his leadership in-spite what few people may say. I wish I could vote for Mr. Modi as PM in 2014. Neither Pakistan, china nor Congress is going to change, what can change is who we elect next. Choice is yours to trust Mr. Modi.

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  • observer

    bangladesh tragedy………………………………………………………………………………………Some Americans feel, mistakenly, that they live in a different universe from
    Bangladeshis. However, “The American retailers supplied by the Bangladeshi
    workers routinely practice wage theft, reduce hours worked and prevent their
    employees from earning a living wage.” It is, so far, only a matter of degree.

    “Worldwide finance capitalism is the villain in this tale.”

    When we speak of people being crushed it is usually in metaphorical terms. Political defeat, and oppressions of various kinds can be described as such, but the reference is rarely a literal one.

    At a textile factory complex in Savar, Bangladesh at least 300 and perhaps as many as 1,000 garment workers were crushed to death when the building they were working in collapsed. It was the second incident of large scale fatalities involving Bangladeshi textile workers since last November when 112 people were killed in a garment factory fire.

    American, Canadian and European retailers have come to depend on sweat shops located in Haiti, Bangladesh, or China in order to maximize their profits. When Americans shop at Walmart, H&M, the Gap, or Sears for clothing bargains they often emerge with clothing made by people who risk their lives in return for very little income.

    It is too easy to blame the Walmarts of the world when these deaths take place, but Walmart is but a symptom of a larger disease. Worldwide finance capitalism is the villain in this tale and will continue to crush millions around the world as it reaches what appears to be its late stage of existence.

    This financial system has nothing to offer except a succession of bubbles, first Internet, then stock market and finally real estate. The end result of these machinations is always suffering of the masses of working people, who are becoming more and more expendable in the capitalist world.

    “When Americans shop at Walmart, H&M, the Gap, or Sears for clothing bargains they often emerge with clothing made by people who risk their lives in return for very little income.”

    It would be a mistake to see the Bangladeshi experience as being so different from our own. The American retailers supplied by the Bangladeshi workers routinely practice wage theft, reduce hours worked and prevent their employees from earning a living wage or having an opportunity to secure more employment. Part-time work has become the norm, making American workers’ lives more and more difficult and making the employer more and more wealthy.

    Walmart workers may not be crushed by collapsing buildings but they are churned in and out at a rapid rate, unable to earn enough to qualify for the little health benefits that the nation’s largest employer offers. There is a reason they are called associates and not employees.

    The subcontractor system used in Bangladesh to separate image conscious retailers from the dirty work of dangerous factories is used in this country too. A federal judge has ruled that Walmart will be a co-defendant in a class action lawsuit alleging wage theft at distribution centers run by subcontractors. When we Americans see news stories about the Bangladesh tragedy we ought to see ourselves in the story too.

    Even Americans who have retired from the workplace treadmill aren’t safe from exploitation, in this case by our government. Thanks to Barack Obama and congressional democrats the comfort they should have in their later years is waning fast. The Obama-created budgetary sequester has taken a toll on cancer patients turned away from treatment because of cuts to Medicare. Head Start centers have lost slots for children, unemployment benefits have been cut and Section 8 housing assistance has been slashed.

    “When we Americans see news stories about the Bangladesh tragedy we ought to see ourselves in the story too.”

    Americans are at the mercy of greedy corporations and two political parties who plot to steal their money and keep them poor. The illusion of difference has played out like a kabuki play, with Democrats acting as if they are fighting the Republicans. Ultimately workers and retirees lose out as their money is snatched in clear and brazen class warfare.

    Bangladeshis reacted to the deaths with great anger. Walk outs, demonstrations and strikes cut garment production in days after the building collapse. The righteous indignation is the first step towards justice for Bangladeshi workers, but it is also the first step for people all over the world. Americans are convinced to side with a political party that works only to push them into poverty when they too ought to be hitting the streets.

    The system we live in is essentially corrupt and cannot act in our interests. We are being treated like sweat shop workers as the unsustainable economy we live in implodes. Unfortunately, there is little understanding of our true plight. There should be a discussion of the desperation of our conditions, what causes them and what we should plan for next.

    The Bangladeshi workers get the full brunt of the terror inherent in our system. Our demise is slower and a bit less violent, but it is an ending nonetheless.

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  • Mike

    Gandhi also used to have a shishi (bottle) of sarson-ka-tail with high denisty in his dhoti, some say to massage his bony legs, but other says to massage his genitalia with this mustard oil. Often found with only two things in his dhoti, sometime when he went to see the Governor Generals’s meeting, cheese from his goat, and sarson-ka-tail. His penis was not as small as some writers had alluded. It was functional and working. Also, he used to read books on Kama sutra (reference shall be provided if asked). Thanks.

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    mike Reply:

    He had something more common with Jinnah of Pakistan, both of them were born in Gujrat, both were lawyers and barristers and of course both of them had child brides. Oh yeah, one more thing. Gandhi was the first Indian leaders who addressed him as Quaid-a-Azam. (the great leader) Again, reference will be provided if asked, but you need to go to India Library in England

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  • anil

    Zia Haq back again, doing the usual rattling!

    Why can’t Zia Haq do some research on Islamic world and find a Islamic origin Gandhi who would have lived like M. Gandhi to safeguard the interests of the non-Muslims? There are plenty of non-Muslims who lived on this earth who have fought for rights for Muslims and non-Muslims alike and Gandhi does not have to be the only one!

    As a way of life whole democratic world gave (and still giving) Muslims and Non-Muslims (those who are freedom loving) same right until, of course, Osama came into the scene, trying to destroy that trust among various communities.

    Mr. Haq, do you read the same book for inspiration which Osama got his inspiration from?

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  • Raj Reddy

    gandhi neither believed in killing kafirs nor was gandhi a kid lover, so how is he islamic????

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  • Harm

    Ok…if Zia is saying Islam preaches non-voilence which Gandhiji followed…what do you say guys.

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  • Harsh

    Zia…would you ever right against Islamic extremism? Would you talk about Popular Front of India which is new name for SIMI but supported by terrorist parties like Samajwadi Party, Muslim League, etc.. No. Anu guesses why?

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  • Harsh

    Why doesnt Hindustan Times sends him away. Why do they bear this extremist Zia who would never shed a tear for any Hindu or Sikh or Jain or Buddhist but ready to emphatize with a Muslim even though he did a terrorist act

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  • gajanan

    This Prof Hasan is writing all poppy ****. Gandhi never ate meat. The Abrahamic religions eat meat like fish taking to water. What Gandhi practised was Rishi Atharvans and Jainism’s premise. Hasan and Haq are like scoundrels taking refuge in Gandhism. I remember very well when I was overseas an Arab scholar telling me ” We Arabs do not have a man like Gandhi to tackle the West” Yes very true. Hasan and Haq have hijacked Gandhi for this cause. Just writing anything will not do. As Eric Ambler put it ” Never tell a lie when you can bullshit your way” Hasan and Haq are the greatest bullshitters. Well if the Islamic world cannot produce a Gandhi , why hijack his name for a Islamic cause? Hasan and Haq can come out of their power pulpits and become the Islamic version of Gandhi. Wear a Arab dress and plead for peace , fast for peace , do a satyagraha for peace. Do they have the guts? Do they have the bile to do a Gandhi?

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    Viswanathan Krishnamoorthy Reply:

    A good comment. If Hassan and Haq paints Gandhi as an Islamist (thank God, not an Islamist fundamentalist), they have every right to dress him up with a skull cap, and worship him as he was instrumental in creating a islamic fundamentalist state which claims its origin is from the middle east. So, USA and its UN organizations treat Pakistan as part of middle east, and not part of Asia. That gives a clear indication that Gandhi pushed Jinnah towards the middle east as he was a fighter himself for the causes, he felt, was good for him and Islam. Gandhi accepted division of India because, to me, he has adopted Nehru as his adopted son to lead the country and subsequently led his family members and relatives to misuse the term Gandhi; Gandhi adopted Rajaji as his sambandhi (relationship because of the marriage of Rajaji’s daughter to Gandhi’s son). Gandhi although worked for the upliftment of dalits, his failure to get a daughter-in-law from that community would have left Ambedkar, a Congressman, upset. This itself would have led Ambedkar to embrace Buddism, because Gandhi wanted his grandson to be half-brahmin, atleast, and his vision of upliftment of dalits is only hollow. If he had arranged the marriage to a dalit, the entire community would have felt uplifted in one single act of Gandhi, the real upliftment, and the result would have been much much different. 33% reservation in everything would have not have gone to SCs/STs. The marriage of Rajaji’s daughter with Gandhi’s son has eliminated Rajaji from challenging his adopted son Nehru, and Rajaji’s British employment as India’s first Indian governor general would not have happened. Thus Rajaji lost one great thing of becoming first PM of the country, but gained a name as the first GG of India. This proves there is a price for everything. No one is above….

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  • RK Sharma

    MK Gandhi was biggest scamster of modern times, to me he along with Nehru is responsible for all problems India is facing, MK Gandhi colluded with Nehru who in turn ask Stalin of USSR to Kill Netaji Bose (the biggest patriot and most efficient leader India has ever produced) in Siberian Jail, Airport crash theory is false, to me Gandhi is even worse then modern politicians, people may say he did that or this, No he shouldn’t have done anything, he was a manipulator who tried to stole fame for himself by sidelining and killing better people like Bhagat Singh and Subash Bose.

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  • Ganesh Rao

    Gandhi was assaulted mercilessly by a Muslim in s.Africa on Feb-10 1908.Here is the discription of the assault in his own words. WHo will not become a muslim after such a savage assault.

    I took severe blows on my left ribs. Even now I find breathing difficult. My upper lip has a cut on one side. I have a bruise above the left eye and a wound on the forehead. In addition, there are minor injuries on my right hand and left knee. I do not remember the manner of the assault, but people say that I fell down unconscious with the first blow which was delivered with a tick. Then my assailants struck me with an iron pipe and a stick, and they also kicked me. Thinking me dead, they stopped. I only remember having been beaten up. I have an impression that, as the blows started, I uttered the words ‘He Rama!’ [Oh God]. Mr. Thambi Naidoo and Mr. Essop Mia intervened. Mr. Woo was hit as a result and injured on the ear. Mr. Essop Mia received a slight injury on a finger. As I came to, I got up with a smile. In my mind there was not the slightest anger or hatred for the assailants.

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    Viswanathan Krishnamoorthy Reply:

    how old are you, Sir.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gandhi was born in a hindu family,and was brought up as one.Being a Hindu ,he was an Indian,and to him Hindus,muslims christians,Jain and all religions in India was the same to him,”…..we are all brothers….”he never changed his religion nor he died a muslim.people took him wrong.As a Hindu I have many muslim friends,and this does not mean that I am becoming a muslim.I respect all religions.and we are all children of God.

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    Ramesh Reply:

    Yeah the same way Gujarati Hindus love their muslim neighbours…hahahaha!!!Here for Gujarati muslims Hindus are protectors…hahahah!!

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  • milind

    According to author allah another name is ram it is true why he died say hey ram not hey allah

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    engrich Reply:

    ramallah is name of a palestanian city.king ramses was egyptian paroah.story was brought to india by valmiki an emigrant.later promoted by brhmns .at some stage time brhmns declared him 8th incarnation of vishnu.but has no ramtemple as he was kurmi not double distilled brhmn.how this name came on tngue of mahatama is a mystery.

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    Ramesh Reply:

    India has been made 3rd most pwerful country by Brahmins..hhahahahah!!hence poor Muslims venting their anger against Brahmins!!

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  • Anonymous

    Gandhi once said “Moosalman are bully and Hindus are coward”. This speaks a lot about what he thought of muslims.

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  • Anonymous

    Gandhi’s experiment failed with Islam..Why read below..

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/HinduWoman40718.htm

    Gandhi’s experiment with Islam and why it failed

    by Hindu Woman

    When India ’s independence struggle was at its height Gandhi realized that independence cannot come about by the efforts of the Hindus alone. Muslims too must be involved in the struggle. It is important to note that Muslim separation or Hindu involvement in the national movement is not a simple monochromatic affair. There were some Muslims already in the fold and many Hindus who supported the British rule. However Gandhi decided to bring in the Muslim masses and particularly their religious leaders. This led to the Khilafat Movement of 1919-24. Gandhi and led by him the Indian National Congress joined hands with the religious group knows as Jamiat-e-Ulama-e-Hind. This was Gandhi’s experiment with orthodox Islam and it was a spectacular failure.

    The demands of the Jamiat were simple. In Turkey the Caliph (the supreme religious ruler who was also the temporal authority) was being repeatedly threatened by the Young Turks who were Republican Nationalists. The power of the British in Turkey had rendered the Ottoman Caliphs subservient to British interests. However since the Caliph was also a religious figure, the Jamiat wanted the power of the Caliph to be restored to the full and all republican movement to be stopped. It claimed that the Caliph was the true ruler of all Muslims everywhere; therefore the Muslims must restore him; in the process they must oppose the British who had weakened the Caliph’s authority is such a manner and allowed secular forces to take over. The Jamiat therefore proposed an alliance with the Congress to fight the British in India . Without realizing the implications Gandhi agreed to join the ‘restore Caliph’ movement. Thus the Jamiat’s entry into Indian national movement had nothing to do with India , but everything to do with a faraway country. Even more importantly it had nothing to do with Hindus, Christians, Parsis or secular Muslims — in short it had no interest in the welfare of Indians as such; the Jamiat cared only for the religion of Islam. That was the first mistake Gandhi made: he believed that the movement would bring Hindus and Muslims closer; but since the primary focus of the movement was on Islam (the independence struggle being a side-dish), such an alliance cannot last. When finally Ataturk by a coup took over Turkish government and secularized it, the movement came to an end. But it did nothing for Hindu-Muslim friendship.

    For the sake of Hindu-Muslim alliance Gandhi continued to make compromise after compromise, but ultimately the alliance collapsed. It collapsed because of several reasons and because Gandhi did not think things through. He was not interested in Turkey but according to his own words wanted to buy Muslim friendship. He also believed that the British were truly oppressing the Muslims everywhere. The problem was that Gandhi simply did not understand the mindset of Islamic leaders he was dealing with.

    (i) In the first place, the Jamiat presented the image of a Christian war against Muslims in the regions of Ottoman Empire . But this is a misreading based on their religious prejudices. What was happening in the Balkans and Arabia were nationalist movements. The Arab colonies though Muslims were in revolt against the Ottoman rulers because they wanted national states. Secondly the British were in no way opposed to the Ottoman Caliphs. In fact British forces actively tried to prevent Republican Nationalists in Turkey from taking power. The British government had even financed a Khilafat trip to Europe to plead their cause. It was only after World War I when Turkey lost its colonies that the Indian Muslim religious groups turned against British. Up until then they had been very loyal to the British. But Gandhi ignored these facts in his eagerness. The Islamic movements are not anti-British, not anti-Imperialists or pro-nationalists – they are simply supporters of their version of Islam. They are extremists to whom orthodox Islam is everything.

    (ii) The Muslim leaders of the Khilafat movement painted a picture of world-wide conspiracy against Muslims. Gandhi was swayed by the eloquence of Mohamed and Shaukat Ali. It is common for Muslims to claim that everyone is unjustly persecuting them and there is a conspiracy against them everywhere. (These claims of victimization can be as ridiculous as “9/11 was carried out by Jews” or “Americans beheaded Paul Johnson to give Islam a bad name”)

    (iii) Gandhi ignored voices coming from the Indian Muslim community. There were many Indian Muslims who did not support the Khilafat movement. The more religious held that the Ottoman Sultans were not legitimate Caliphs. In India the acceptance of the Turkish Sultan as the universal Caliph was only from the middle of 19th century and that too due to the propaganda by Urdu press. By accepting the legitimacy of Khilafat movement Gandhi was actually strengthening the hold of an orthodox clergy. There was also a more secularized tradition. Sir Sayed Ahmed Khan had distinguished sharply between the political realm and religious realm declaring the two to be separate. He also said that a Caliph is the Caliph only of his own territory and there is no universal Caliphate. By these reasoning Indian Muslims owed no loyalty to the Turkish Caliph. Neither the first nor the second group, were pro-Hindus. What Gandhi did was to legitimize Islamic identity over other ties and give a boost to the pan-Islamic identity.

    (iii) Another mistake Gandhi made is to ignore the sections that would have actually helped him. He ignored the sects of syncretic Islam that had arisen in the Indian subcontinent. Such sects were more willing to live in peace with other religions. A ‘pure’ form of Islam yearning for Dar-ul-Islam puts up with non-Muslims only as long as they [the Muslims] are weak. Gandhi should have encouraged these heretical sects. There were also a growing number of secular Muslims. But Gandhi ignored them in favour of religious mullahs.

    (iv) The Muslim clergy did not believe in living peacefully with other religions. The Koran divides the world into Dar-Al-Harb (House of war) and Dar-Al-Islam (house of Islam). The faithful are commanded to fight until the non-Muslims are converted, subjugated or annihilated. Though the Koran also allows treaties with pagans, according to traditionalist interpretations based on Muhammad’s own actions, such a peace is to be kept only as long as Muslims are weak. A strict interpretation of such commandments means there can be no tolerance in Islam for other religions, particularly of non-Abrahamic variety. After the British conquest of India when it was realised that there was no way for any Muslim ruler to gain power, there had been a debate about whether India was Dar Al-Harb or Dar Al-Islam. One school favoured the former since Muslims were no longer sovereigns. During the Khilafat movement the Ali brothers and Maulana Azad declared thatIndia was enemy territory and so favoured migration to Turkey . A group actually set out to go to Turkey under their inspiration. It is obvious therefore such Muslims had no love for India or for their fellow citizens; they cared only for their pure Islam.

    (v) It cannot be emphasized enough that Khilafat movement had no real connection with India ’s national movement. It was all about Turkey ; but the Turks themselves have kicked out their Caliph. Yet Indian Muslims were asked to fight for this deposed leader. The reverence was based solely on religious feeling. Though ‘moderate’ Islamic intellectuals like Ashgar Ali Engineer lecture that it was through Khilafat movement that Muslims were brought into the secular fold, there is nothing secular about a movement that tried to replace the secular government by a religious government. Gandhi thus ignored the actual nature of Khilafat agitation. It was only later when many Congressmen began to question the extra-territorial loyalty of Muslims that Gandhi woke up.

    (vi) Gandhi viewed Islam through his own spirituality ignoring how the parishioners of Islam actually saw it. For them religion and politics are inseparable. To Gandhi this was not bad since he also believed that religion and politics should not be separable and religion is needed to make politics ethical. He himself was a devout Hindu and declared his allegiance to Hinduism as an essential component of national struggle. But his Hinduism was of a different brand than the Islam practiced by orthodox Muslims. About Hindu sacred texts Gandhi said, “My belief in the Hindu scriptures does not require me to accept every word and every verse as divinely inspired… I decline to be bound by any interpretation, however learned it may be, if it is repugnant to reason or moral sense. … Every word of the printed works passing muster as `Shastras’ is not, in my opinion, a revelation … The interpretation of accepted texts has undergone evolution and is capable of indefinite evolution, even as the human intellect and heart are …. Nothing in the shastras which is manifestly contrary to universal truths and morals can stand… Nothing in the shastras which is capable of being reasoned can stand if it is in conflict with reason.” Such evolutionary Hinduism is a part of Hindu tradition. But no devout Muslim can accept this as true of the Koran or even the Hadith. For them their revealed texts are eternal and immutable; the commandments are not to be rationally scrutinized but simply accepted. Though there is a limited space for interpretation, there is no space for questioning or rejecting the doctrines even if they conflict with reason and morality. That was the essential difference between the way Gandhi practiced his religion and the orthodox Muslims practice theirs.

    (vii) It was not that Gandhi was ignorant of Islamic fanaticism. He complained that Muslims are bullies and Hindus are cowards during riots. The Ali brothers had invited the Amir of Afghanistan to invade India . Swami Shraddhananda who was converting Muslims into Hinduism was shot dead by Abdul Rashid. No Muslim condemned the murder; instead Rashid was declared a martyr and was given anamaaz (prayed upon) in the mosques. However Gandhi’s response was the mistaken one of appeasement: the belief that the bully would be transformed if only one shows friendship. So he pardoned every Muslim fanaticism. He said, “I have called Abdul Rashid a brother and I repeat it. I do not even regard him as guilty of Swami’s murder. Guilty indeed are those who excited feeling of hatred against one another”. He did not support the Hindu and Sikh protests against the cruelties of Nizam of Hyderabad. After 1947, he said “Hindus should never be angry against the Muslims even if the latter might make up their minds to undo even their existence.” Also: “They (Hindus) should not be afraid of death. After all, the killers will be none other than our Muslim brothers”. Unfortunately spirituality and brotherhood do not have any impact on Muslim fanatics who by the very tenets of their religion are called upon to regard the non-Muslims as their enemies. No matter how much you give them they are never satisfied until the world is Islamic according to their views.

    Needless to say Gandhi’s experiment with Islam failed. The results were disastrous for both Hindus and Muslims. In the first place since the movement understood nothing about the dynamics of Turkish politics and nationalism it was bound to fail – the time of Sultans was over. In 1922 there was violence and Gandhi withdrew his support for the movement. Now let us take a look at the consequences of support to this Islamic movement:-

    (a) The Muslim clergy became the centrepiece of Muslim politics in India . Though they had a toehold in politics they were not very powerful. But now they became de facto leaders and the genuinely secular and educated Muslim leaders were sidelined. As usual Congress leaders bent backwards to help fundamentalist Muslim leaders to come to power – a policy they have continued to this day.

    (b) Muslims blamed Gandhi for the failure of the restoration of Khalifa.

    (c) It led to Mopla riots. The Mopla Muslim community heard rumours that the time for jihad had come and an end must be put to all kaffirs. So they violently attacked the Hindus, killing old and young, raping women, tearing off fetuses from wombs. Finally the British restored peace. This must be the only time during the national movement when British troops were welcomed with open arms by the Indians. It is evidence that religion-addicted Muslims cannot live in peace with non-Muslims for long. That was what Hindus got for taking part in a purely Islamic agitation.

    (c) The Khilafat movement made the Muslims more conscious of their Islamic identity. It was this that finally led to the Pakistan movement and partition. Even if the partition was inevitable and the net result had been good for Hindus, a great chance was lost to reform Indian Islam so that it can cope with the modern world. Instead India was divided on the basis of religion and a Muslim minority remained.

    (d) Let us see how the orthodox Muslims repaid Gandhi: In 1924, Mohammed Ali to whom Gandhi showed such affection said, : “However pure Mr. Gandhi’s character may be, he must appear to me, from the point of religion, inferior to any Mussalman even though he be without character.” In 1925 he emphasized: “Yes, according to my religion and creed, I do hold an adulterous and a fallen Mussalman to be better than Mr. Gandhi”. That is the true Islamofascist mentality revealed in all its glory.

    In this way Gandhi’s experiment with Islam failed. This should serve as an object lesson to all who try to appease the fanatic Muslims. It will not succeed but only lead to greater fanaticism and destruction.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    RajeevS many thanks for this copy/paste. Ali Sina and his faith freedom has blown the wind out of every muslim fraudster who claims Islam is a religion of peace. He has along with his collaborators brought out the Islam’s fetid innards skillfully “hidden” over the centuries.
    Our BapuJi was a totally failed barrister both in South Africa and in Bombay, but was very successful in his dabbling to rise within the Congress Party. He is brought into the core of the Congress the entire structure of Muslim appeasement that is unethical and repugnant.
    The most interesting consistent theme of his entire life has been to go to any place where Hindus have been slaughtered, and fast for peace (only) and at every place Hindus retaliated to call for “punishment” for the “evil mongers”. That is why only the “shit-heads” in the Corrupt Party call him the “father of the nation”; totally ignoring that Bharat has been a nation since over 6000 years.
    The other lasting legacy of BapuJi was installing the dynasty of another failed barrister ChachaJi.

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    Ganesh Rao Reply:

    ; totally ignoring that Bharat has been a nation since over 6000 years

    life of hindus is 3000 years.if congressis are chor bjp is daku.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Rao, Maharaja Bharata ruled and united the land into one administrative unit then, but that does not preclude the non-existence of our philosophy, culture and our way of life, that extended from way beyond present day Afghanistan, Tajikistan right down to the land touching the Arabian Sea , Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean. Our civilization precedes Maharaja Bharata by several millenniums.
    Why are you bringing in your bias against BJP? The post is not about current politics, and is strictly germane to Bapuji’s posturing and his Himalayan blunders. With a uneviable track record from the first army jeep scandal to some other that possibly will come out tomorrow, even Marcos or Mobutus of the world put together, would never be able to match the whole-sale uninterrupted plunder inflicted by the Corrupt Party; so it does not stand either in context or content.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sumit,
    This guy is a Islamofascist who takes different identities.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sumit,
    This guy is a Islamofascist who takes different identities.

    Ganesh Rao Reply:

    BOSE……we have glimpse of last 3000.during this period you never made any shool any researche centre or any hospital.education was beened to indian.land was snatched by temples.our women too were to temple to work as devdaasi.

    hamaree jehalat ka fayda utha kar hame bhagwan bechte aut chutia banate the .

    before converting to budhdhism ahoka killed entire population of orrisa and murdered his 99 brothers.during muslim rule u were polishing their shoes.during british time u were helping brits to rob india.aaj coorperate ke hath me dal kar ghoom rahe aur bharat bech ke duniya kee wah wah le rahe ho.

    yahee choota sa itihas hai hamara.humne jabse aye hai indians ka khoon choosa hai.hum sirf 10%hain.

    waiting your reply bose

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Rao, it is abundantly clear you are a “cutlet” who is writing under several pseudonyms. I have this issue with any “educated cutlet”, they are never on the topic, diversionary digression is either deliberate or .mischievous. What ever may be in your case; you are just on a rant that Sanatan Dharma and its adherents for over 6000 were just ignorant savages living in caves wearing animal fur.
    Sadly, the brutal destruction of the marauding Muslim scoundrels had been so complete that all the inventions, libraries, structures were razed and burnt to dust and very rare glimpses have survived the Islamic zeal.
    So , it becomes so easy for converts as you to debunk our past that sadly was so pacifistic at one junction of history, that our land had to bear the ravages of small time bandits and these bandits forcibly converted our own people and propagate more banditry on us all.
    In the recent past, this band of bandits opted for their own land, but did not leave, have stayed back and just because they dont have the numbers to run amok, ensure that another band of bandits (Corrupt Party) remain in power, till you bandits can grow in numbers to revert to the banditry of your past.

    Ganesh Rao Reply:

    bose u say……………………Sadly, the brutal destruction of the marauding Muslim scoundrels had been so complete that all the invention

    where.dont shelter yourslf in zhoot and lies.last 800 muslim invaders were resisted by mulim rulers of india.moghuls were builders of india.how hindu heritages would have destroyed when c-in-c and pms and majority of advisors to state were hindus.36%of ministers in the cabinet of aurangzeb the great were hindus.

    even somnath was destroyed it was looted because of filthy wealth it had.helped by competitive brhmns of that time.
    first 50 years of british rule muslims were boycotting brits and english.that time u and britishers wrote ur own history to defame past rulers of india.

    conversion was because of hindu apartheid social system.actually vivekanad and mn roy gave call to

    victim of hinduism to convert and have self respect.

    we were supporting congres.now our votes go to regional parties.like cpm in bengal.why should we vote for fascists and terrorist parties of india.

    ashoka built 63000 temples in kalinga present day orrisa.after 3 genrations when brhmns came to power all were destroyed.destroying others place of worship is your history.keeping others jahil and rule them through hatred for others and fear is your dna.best hindu temples including 4 dhams of shankaracharyas were built during muslim rule.

    spewing the poison of hate is ur habit.signs of muslim greatness was everywhere from murshidabad to ahmadabad from hyderabad to tipu sultan.u survive on lies which is your staple and hate wich is your duty.

    bose and raj please reply.

    kc Reply:

    Ganesh Rao,
    pls dont use alieas ! if you have to say some thing say it up front not under pseudos!
    and never mind we the Brhmns have made it sure that you get 27 % and other extra 4.7% crutches to help polio affected guys( both physical and mental) like you survive at the cost of funding for education and researches and hospitals you were lamenting on ..

    KC Reply:

    Really ?
    my great historian bro, we had only devdassi s and polished brabarian boots?
    then pls try to search ” time line of Mathematics” on net, and you might get further information regarding history. Of course the barbarians played a great role to bring this nation to what it is now .It was our fault and it still is !!

    Avatar Ganesh Rao Reply:

    Letters between Mahatma Gandhi and the Zionist Hermann Kallenbach are said to shed light on their ‘loving relationship’

    The letters were bought by the Indian government in July 2012.

    Kallenbach, a German-born Jewish architect, met Gandhi in South Africa in 1904.

    Gandhi and Kallenbach became constant companions.

    Gandhi and Kallenbach lived together for two years in a house in South Africa.

    They promised to give one another “more love, and yet more love… such love as they hope the world has not yet seen”.

    According to Lelyveld’s book, Gandhi reportedly told Kallenbach: “How
    completely you have taken possession of my body. This is slavery with a
    vengeance.”

    Gandhi split with his wife so he could be with Kallenbach, according to Lelyveld.

    Gandhi wrote that vaseline was a ‘constant reminder’ of Kallenbach.

    More on the ’sex’ stuff here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172967/Indian-government-spends-700-000-buy-letters-prove-national-hero-Gandhi-gay.html#ixzz20ZEVC5dD

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This relation was same as between Mohammad and Omar.

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    Ganesh Rao Reply:

    also between your mother and me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Didn’t you say that your mother slept with all congressmen?

  • athiest

    “Where else have some of the greatest ideas of mankind, such as justice, compassion and righteousness, come from, but religion?” justice as in case of killing infidels..compassion as for loving the kids literally and righteousness when it comes to subjugation of women. all religions are alike that they all are false but yours is far retarded

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  • worldtraveler

    Hahaha….Gandhi = peaceful, Muslims = terrorists……no comparision ! Muslims always try to defend their evil deeds by citing stupid logics !

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  • Gopi

    Such a load of Bxxx…
    And, reading this “internationally reputed” tag, I was reminded how our media bhompus used to add same tag to an economist (who in reality was an econ babu) but now do not do anymore. So much for “internationally reputed” xyz…:)

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  • deepak

    please do not confuse varna system with caste system.
    varnas were 4. castes are thousands. varnas system has already collapsed.

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  • Shacharsmith

    I think that Gandhiji did not tell about caste system .He saying that All are equal there were not discrimination in caste system.

    http://www.prlog.org/12112705-6pm-coupon-codes-may-2013-75-off-entire-categories.html

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  • Vns

    If left to muslims these vermins would say indias are muslims and hinduism is nothing but islam. Breeding terrorism, killing and raping innocents, fighting in the name of religion, and defending all crimes as if the whole world is against them and projecting themselves as innocents is the summary of islam.

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  • Anonymous

    I think Gandhi tried his best to keep HIndus and Muslims together and whatever his faults, we need to learn from him.

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  • Balakrishna

    “Vasudeva Kutumbakam” is one of the vedanta principle under which people of many religion, caste creed will live under one umbrella called Hinduism. Can we find any other place than India where so many religions came and prospered? It is this Hindu philosophy which influenced Gandhi to fight discrimination in the name of religion.

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  • world traveler

    rajeevs and indurani bose………..How can we end corruption & exploitation when Hindu values worship the filthy rich?
    Every society, every country in the world is governed by its value system. And the values come from our religions. The Western values are governed by its Christian religion, the Muslim values from Islam and in the East particularly China it is the Budhism that set the values.
    That is how the West has made tremendous progress not only in science and technology but also in liberal thoughts, literature, philosophy, social sciences etc.
    The progress achieved by the West is so evident from the big rush of Indian students to Western universities and later settling down there itself for jobs, cursing India. All rich upper castes love to live and even settle down in the West, particularly the US and say they hate everything Indian.
    China replacing Japan: In the East, China is poised to become the world’s No.1 country in a couple of years. It is expected to replace Japan as the No.2 world economy in another year.
    All the Eastern countries like Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and even the little Vietnam, completely wrecked in the American bombing raids, are surpassing India in all spheres.
    Why every other country in the world is soaring to new heights while the ancient India, the second most populous country in the world (1,200 millions), is languishing and limping?
    Values come from religion: There is no mystery in this. The answer lies in our value system. And to repeat, the values come from the religion. Unfortunately our values are set by the religion of Hinduism that governs us. Defenders of Hinduism may quote from a stray sentence here and there to contradict us but there is no Hindu religious institution in India or even outside which does not roll in wealth.
    During the remote past of Indus Valley Civilization of the Harappa and Mohenjadaro glory, it was a flouring system which the invading Aryan-Brahminical marauders destroyed.
    The oppression let loose by the Brahmins produced the country’s greatest spiritual philosopher, the Budha, who fought the Brahmins and launched the golden period of Indian history.
    The Brahmins infiltrated Budhism and fought the Budha’s Dhamma both from within and without and injected their spiritual poison which caused our steep fall and deep decline.
    Manu & Chanakya : History records all the barbarous values that were injected into our veins by the Manu Dharma Shastra and Chanakya’s Arthasastra — the two guiding Brahminical spiritual poison that set our values.
    Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, the Father of India, has exhaustively dealt with all these subjects in his voluminous writings and speeches. And hence no need for repetition.
    M.K. Gandhi, the humbug who roamed in the guise of a sanyasi, injected all the dangerous Brahminical values into our veins. It is these values that make us think that Gandhi is a Mahatma. As long as the country goes on calling him a Mahatma we will continue to be steeped in the Brahminic poisonous values.
    DV family members need no further elaboration.
    This has direct bearing on each and every action of our society. The governance of a society right from its President, Prime Minister, Parliament, every wing of the society — political party system, bureaucracy, judiciary, defence, education, textbooks, media, commerce and industry, art and literature, health system, business, sports etc. — all these are governed by the Hindu spiritual poison injected into our blood.
    Hindu spiritual values: That is how all of us are feeling helpless, unable to fight back the poisonous values injected into the veins of our forefathers and even to us today. And our children tomorrow.
    Why we all feel so helpless because we are governed by a set of values which are governed by the “Hindu spiritualism”.
    The most striking feature of this Hindu value system makes us think that wealth brings prestige, position, happiness and recognition. This is the most dangerous value which is killing this country.
    Because there is a desperate competition among our people even down to our youth to “somehow” become rich — beg, borrow or steal— even kill. Your parents, teachers, friends, neighbours and even the girl whom you want to marry love the rich, admire the rich. There is a country-wide craze to get rich quick.
    India’s rank falling: But how can you become rich in a country which is dirt poor? Enough statistics are before us. If you have the eyes you can see them.
    Out of about 200 countries in the world in the UN, India’s rank is about 120. And it is steadily going down. Every small country surrounding the giant India has jumped ahead of us. But we are slipping down and down — hitting the rock bottom.
    Yet we go on shamelessly claiming the Security Council seat, posing as “India Shining”. But the fact is India is a failed state. All the biggest cities — where our highest educated Hindus live and call themselves the leaders of all thought and action— are turning into slums. Yes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Look who is talking… a terrorist from Pakistan.

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    world traveler Reply:

    bring in free market enterprise” – in other words, sell the nation to
    corporations and win support from the rest o the world

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Look who is talking..worshipper of mid-east who survives on west’s corporation.. They can’t even dig out their petroleum.

  • gopi_thomas

    Alisher Burkhanovich Usmanov (Uzbek: Alisher Usmonov, Алишер Бурханович Усмонов) (born 9 September 1953) is an Uzbek-born Russian business magnate. According to the 2011 edition of Forbes magazine, the oligarch Usmanov is Russia’s richest man, with a fortune estimated at $18.1 billion, and the world’s 28th richest person.[1]
    According to the December 2012 Bloomberg Billionaires Index, he has an
    estimated net worth of $17.3 billion, making him the 39th richest person
    in the world.[4] In April 2013, the Sunday Times listed him as the richest person in the UK, ousting Lakshmi Mittal for the number one spot.

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  • engricn

    gandhi also disturb the marriage of vijay laxmi pundit with muslim who was freedom.she cursed ghandhi for this act.gandhi was a communal bania.he introduce poison of religion in indian politics and helped britishers and rss to divide india and in killing of millions of indian.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/om.bansal3 Om Bansal

    Gandhi’s life was based on teachings of Bhagvat Gita, Even in his darkest moments he would find solace in Gita .To say he lived an Islamic life is untrue.

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    Avatar gopi_thomas Reply:

    Gandhi’s life was based on teachings of Bhagvat Gita

    so he was copying lord shree krishna.

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  • Anonymous

    Load of cr@p.

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  • Sumit Bose

    Thanks for the trouble of putting this post. I can rip into shreds, your conclusions with many more diabolic and barbaric incidents not only in context of the quotes from the “terror manual” from the 7th century, but also regarding the anecdotes from Aurangzeb, but also our great Corrupt Party labeled “freedom fighter” Tipu Sultan.
    But that would be too time consuming, and regretfully unable to give time to. So I let your say stay, without making the effort to consign it to the bin.

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    world traveler Reply:

    u bengalees were cleaning the shoes of brits.what is your contributiobn.aurangzeb made india.TUM SAARE JINDAGEE ZHOOT BOLOGO AUR NAFRAT PHAILOGE.u and brits looted india and reduced our gdp frpm 30%to 1%.ur history is full of thugy.ur god kaali was also thug ho killed 1000 innocents.u starved crores of indians to death to apease your new god ,BRITISHERS.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    “Cutlet” “Brijendra Singh”…ha ha ha hah. before traveling the “world” i suggest you need to travel within your own past. I have maintained some decorum and have never used pejorative personal words. India was subjugated for nearly a millennium, first by the muslims and then by the Brits. We have had to run the gauntlet of centuries of humiliation, the inhuman brutal subjugation of muslim rulers and then the polite subjugation of the Brits, and I am not denying our collective past.
    I am happy that we have risen from abject brutal slaves to obtaining education and dignity once again.

    Can you admit the same for yourself. You will never admit that your ancestor either to save his head to be separated from his torso, or to avoid repaying his debt to the village money-lender, or was to avoid punishment from from criminal act opted for the escapist route to become a pseudo-arab, and you being a blinkered moron, consider yourself more Arab than the Arabs and get a real jolt when you get kicked and humiliated by the Arabs in Saudi Arabia.

    Yet so blinkered are you that you are happy to lick and kiss Arab feet there , return to India and yet consider yourself as India’s master.

    Hate and brutality is intimately ingrained in the cult of the Popat you blindly follow, and hate and brutality is what you have poisoned your existence with. Just look around the circumstances in all the muslim countries of the world:, steeped in strife, ignorance and brutality.

    Islam is what Islamic societies do, need i say anymore?

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    vinayak purohit Reply:

    u are still the same or more divisive racialist racist voilent society.with time u are changing for worst.

    http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/mumbai-crime/in-fresh-trouble-sreesanth-under-mumbai-police-scanner/articleshow/20127193.cms

  • ROOPESH KUMAR

    Oye Engrich. Chiutiye…. terre ko Auranzeb naam ka DAST lag gaya hai kaya?

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    world traveler Reply:

    tumahare aise logon se desh ko bachane ke liye truth ko samne lana padega.truth is always sour especialy people like u whose staple food is lie.hate is duty

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  • world traveler

    agore on vande
    matram…………………………………………………………………………..Vande
    Mataram! These are the magic words which will open the door of his iron
    safe, break through the walls of his strong room, and confound the hearts of
    those who are disloyal to its call to say Vande Mataram.” (Rabindranath Tagore
    in Glorious Thoughts of Tagore, p.165)

    The controversy becomes more complex in the light of Rabindranath Tagore’s
    rejection of the song as one that would unite all communities in India. In his
    letter to Subhash Chandra Bose (1937), Rabindranath wrote:

    “The core of Vande Mataram is a hymn to goddess Durga: this is so plain that
    there can be no debate about it. Of course Bankimchandra does show Durga to be
    inseparably united with Bengal in the end, but no Mussulman [Muslim] can
    be
    expected patriotically to worship the ten-handed deity as ‘Swadesh’ [the
    nation]. This year many of the special [Durga] Puja numbers of our magazines
    have quoted verses from Vande Mataram – proof that the editors take the song to
    be a hymn to Durga. The novel Anandamath is a work of literature, and so the
    song is appropriate in it. But Parliament is a place of union for all religious
    groups, and there the song cannot be appropriate. When Bengali Mussulmans show
    signs of stubborn fanaticism, we regard these as intolerable. When we too copy
    them and make unreasonable demands, it will be self-defeating.”

    In a postscript to this same letter, Rabindranath says:

    “Bengali Hindus have become agitated over this
    matter, but it does not concern
    only Hindus. Since there are strong feelings on both sides, a balanced judgment
    is essential. In pursuit of our political aims we want peace, unity and good
    will – we do not want the endless tug of war that comes from supporting the
    demands of one faction over the other.” [1]

    In the last decade, Vande Mataram has been used as a
    rallying cry by Hindu
    nationalists in India, who have challenged the status of the current national
    anthem by Rabindranath

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  • Muslim Behavior Population

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in: USA — 0.6% Australia — 1.5% Canada — 1.9% China — 1.8% Italy — 1.5% Norway — 1.8% At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among gangs.This is happening in: UK — 2.7% Thailand — 4.6% From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.This is occurring in: France — 8% Philippines — 5% Netherlands — 5.5%. At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car burnings. Any non Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in: Guyana — 10% India — 13.4% Israel — 16% Kenya — 10% Russia — 15% After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in: Ethiopia — 32..8% At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and on going militia warfare, such as in: Chad — 53.1% Lebanon — 59.7% From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non believers of all other religions, sporadic genocide, use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in: Albania — 70% Malaysia — 60.4% Qatar — 77.5% Sudan — 70% After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on going in: Bangladesh — 83% Egypt — 90% Iran — 98% Iraq — 98.7% Pakistan — 97% Turkey — 99.8% UAE — 96% 100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar es Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, and the Koran is the only word, such as in: Afghanistan — 100% Saudi Arabia — 100% Somalia — 100% Yemen — 100%. Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

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    vinayak purohit Reply:

    hum hindu log jahan bhee hote us mulk ko deemak kee tarah khatein hain wo america ho ya africa
    where there is no america there is no voilence.

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  • Just

    Our beliefs, or faith, inflict the strangest kind of logic on our minds. Therefore, much of what you say can be understood as a function of your faith and the passion that comes from loyalty and xenophobia.

    But “Where else have some of the greatest ideas of mankind, such as justice, compassion and righteousness, come from, but religion?” is factually incorrect.

    Religions are fairly recent (in human history) and have incorporated some of the philosophy expounded thousands of years earlier. The nicest thing one can say about religion (or any faith) is that they wrote down the philosophical thoughts that existed at that time and instructed their followers accordingly.

    Please remember that all that is good, comes from life – human and non-human. Similarly, all that is bad. Good and bad never arose from religion. Religion merely adopted the existing thoughts about good and bad.

    But, by writing them down, religion prevented itself from growing with reality.

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  • vijay !

    Taliban in Afghanistan would be the same Taliban of IC 814 period. America in Afghanistan meant thAt evil jehadis from afghanistan were spent and killed in fighting USA.

    SO if you wish well fro India you should pray that US sticks out in Afghanistan as it also periodically bombs Pakistan our enemy with drones. If this is doen for another 10 years, the concept of Jehad and Islamic superiority over minorities and other religions will die out. After all how many je3hadis will keep beleiving that they are going to janat…

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  • Anonymous

    “Obama: What a let-down he’s been?”

    Says ZIa Haq…Why? Because Obama did not spare Zia’s hero Osama.

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  • Faulitics

    Haha..Vali Nasr is a Muslim originally from Iran. Of course he is stabbing his own country in the back and supporting openly radical and Islamist regimes like Iran and the Taliban. Valid Nasir is to the US what Zia is to India. These communal types have only one loyalty and that is to their religion. Obama did one really good thing. He took the war to the home turf of zia’s “brothers”, the Islamists. He is droning them to hell as they richly deserve it.

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    Abhi Reply:

    Let us do an HT poll on “Am I a Muslim or an Indian First’ on Zia!

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  • Anonymous

    That’s really good one. I doubt whether anyone takes this writer seriously.

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  • Anonymous

    White House got lessons from Indian Politicians ruling and opposition. Now both ruling and opposition parties are silent on corrpution issues once China introduced human rights case on corruption cases. To stop the mentality of indian politicians approaching other nations for various instances is that, Politicians like Mr. Palani Chidambaram have the facility of viewing public places and reading public thoughts and so on … and waits for appropriate time to make presentation in the parliament, before that, many common public are killed and even professional like news readers heads are done. Which is day to day professional work from chennai. Which i have written to our hounarable president of india to take appropriate action action against criminal who possess illegal technology development. Without stopping this it is difficult to monitor social networking sites even after bringing data handling data storage rules and regulation. Present scenerio, China introduced human rights against corrpution, tamil nadu politicians who were in corrpution list came out, human rights is open for sri lankan issue and all of them will seek US Government for support. Atlast China will be left over nothing.

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  • Anonymous

    Zia shows why muslims will remain laggard for foreseable future. It is the ostrich burying its head in the sand scenario.Rather than see things for what they are worth , No turn your head or eyes from uncomfortable truths and turn to , yes you guessed it the OBSCURANTIST REGRESSIVE MEDIEVAL DOCTRINE.Rather than advice Iran to junk religion become a secular republic WITH FULL FREEDOM ie, RIGHT TO PASS LAWS THAT IS ACCORDANCE WITH MODERN REALITY AND SHOWS TWO FINGERS TO THE BOOK. Rather than advice TO SQUEEZE PAKISTAN DRY so that it will realise that to survive IT HAS TO JUNK ARMY AND ALLAH and by extension the vicous virus that is Taliban.
    Next Zia will advocate SIMI be exonerated and allowed to spread terror Dawood Ibrahim allowed to return to india and no terrorist charges against him

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  • engricn

    Bankim Chatterjee’s provocative books gave birth to extremist Hindu
    groups who translated his thoughts into reality. Anadamath written by
    Chatterjee in 1882 was the first manifestation of militant spirit of
    Hinduism against Muslims. Abominable Vande Matram, the hymn of Mother
    India was part of this book which became the national anthem of Bengali
    Hindu nationalists. Later it became the national anthem of India.
    Chatterjee’s book preached hatred against Muslims of India and
    instigated the religious sentiments of Hindus to rise against them,
    terrorize them into submission and merge them in Hinduism or annihilate
    them. He portrayed them as interlopers in the land of Hindus

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    Abhi Reply:

    “Chatterjee’s book preached hatred against Muslims of India”
    Which do you think came first? Muslim’s hatred of ALL other religions or Hindu’s hatred against moslims? Even to day, Modi will wear a scull cap gladly if the moslim who asked him to wear it will wear a tilak.

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Zia

    Time you started realising that Obama has been good for INdia. he bombed the Pakistnais, killed a few thousand jehadis, bottled up the jehaids and Taliban in Afghanistan.

    If you are an Indian look at the world thru the prism on what is good for India and NOT what is good for Muslim Brotherhood.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Zia can not think anything beyond Islam. His kind of people are great threat to secular society.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very sad. I wish he develops a pro India vision rathr than seeing what is good for Muslims in Serbia and karachi.

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