Under The Covers



Purists will hate me for it but I like covers. I know there’s nothing like the real McCoy but listening to cover versions of songs whose classic versions you’re familiar with has a different sort of appeal. I enjoy listening to covers, especially when they’re done in an unexpected way. In recent weeks there was quite a bit of that.

Beck Hansen invites colleagues from the music world to interpret one entire classic album at a time.

Beck Hansen invites colleagues from the music world to interpret one entire classic album at a time.

It all began with The Beatles. As we know September 9, 2009 was not just a rare date in terms of numerology and the calendar but also because that day saw the release of a remastered set of all The Beatles albums, a 16-disc box-set that had every album released and recorded by the world’s best known band between 1962 and 1970. I haven’t got my hands on that box set (which also has a lot of bonuses including documentaries, mono recordings and the like) yet but what it has triggered is a good deal of nostalgia that recalls the Beatlemania of yore.

For instance, a surge of webcasts related to The Beatles. One of these was a song-by-song cover version of the entire Abbey Road album. Besides its iconic album cover of the four Beatles crossing the road, Abbey Road (1969) is considered by many as their favourite Beatles album. The song-by-song cover version that I heard was, at least in part, excellent. Every song was covered in the same sequence as on the album but what made it really good was the artists who performed the songs: Come Together was by Paul Weller (formerly of The Jam), Noel Gallagher and Paul McCartney; Something was by English actor Jim Sturgess from the Across The Universe film; and Maxwell’s Silver Hammer was by Ukelilli, a young American artist who uses the ukulele as her accompanying instrument. Plus, there was Glasgow’s Belle & Sebastian doing an excellent live version of Here Comes The Sun; American folk-rocker Trina Hamlin’s acoustic version of Oh! Darling; Europe’s soul band Tok Tok Tok’s version of Her Majesty; and many other bands doing the rest of the songs on Abbey Road.

Then, someone pointed me to another cover album, the recently released Cheap Trick’s live version of Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, done in the American power-pop band’s trademark style with a nice edgy touch to melodic tunes. I could be mistaken but wasn’t it John Lennon who’d once famously said that Sgt. Pepper would be impossible to perform live? Well, Cheap Trick have pulled it off and both, the CD as well as the DVD, are collectibles.

In the mood for covers, I turned to the Nugs network, where I found covers, not of The Beatles songs, but other classics. All performed live by the classic jam band, Phish. On a lengthy mp3 that goes on for more than an hour and forty-five minutes, I got to hear the reunited band playing a staggering version of New Orleans legend, Allen Toussaint’s Sneaking Sally Thru the Alley; a version of Talking Heads Crosseyed and Painless; Velvet Underground Oh! Sweet Nuthin; Stevie Wonders Boogie On Reggae Woman; and AC/DCs Highway to Hell. The highlight was a track where Bill Kreutzmann, former drummer with the Grateful Dead, sat in with Phish to play a version of Richard Strauss’s Thus Spake Zarathustra (which was used by Stanley Kubrick in his film, 2001: A Space Odyssey) If you’ve never heard Phish or tried to and, well, didn’t take to them immediately, I suggest you download Beck Hansen, the artist known as Beck, has just begun a novel project called the Record Club, where he invites colleagues from the music scene to collaborate and interpret one entire classic album at a time, all the tracks of which are then offered for download on his website.

The first album in the project was a cover of Velvet Underground & Nic, which features Nigel Godrich, a noted recording engineer, Joey Waronker, a sessions musician, Iceland’s Thorunn Magnusdottir and Beck himself. The second project, now in the works, is Songs Of Leonard Cohen. The first track, Suzanne, is out on the website and those who’ve played on it include, besides Beck, musicians from bands like Aussie hard-rockers Wolfmother, Brooklyn duo MGMT and Brazilian-American band, Little Joy. It’s worth checking out.

Those weren’t the only covers I got to hear recently. Just the other day, the good doctor sent me an email. I’m referring to Dr Rupak Das, a Mohali-based surgeon who also has his own band and whose music I’ve mentioned in an early instalment of Download Central. Well, Dr. Das sent in links to videos of his new covers there’s his version of Metallica, Jimi Hendrix and The Doors songs.

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  • DL

    just wanted to share with you my favourite beatles covers album – “blue note plays the beatles”….

    also, really enjoy reading the column every sunday morning, thank you, keep it up!

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Thank you. Yes those 11 jazzy tracks are nice. Didn’t Bobby McFerrin do Drive My Car on that album?

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    DL Reply:

    yes, last track of the album.

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  • Maddy

    Hey,

    Was “Warchild presents Heroes” a deliberate omission? I’m guessing it was. After all it’s a 2009 album and has a fairly exciting mix of artists on it. Even more exciting is the fact the original artists have picked the cover artists themselves. There is only a teeny weeny chance that you already dont know about this compilation, however, if that is the case, here is the Wikipedia link on it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Child_Presents_Heroes

    Am guessing, if it excites you enough, you will manage to get hold of it, :-)

    Cheers…

    PS: Elbow doing U2 (Running to stand still) made quite an impression on me…

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  • Manoj

    Johnny cash’s cover of NIN’s ‘Hurt’ is a beauty. i do enjoy covers . it feels good to know about the artists take on the original. and with new vocals ,sound and genre , it comes into its own. i guess they should cover bob dylan a lot.

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  • Bob Mathews

    Sanjoy,

    Motown had produced an album of their top performers (The Supremes, The Temptations and others),singing cover versions of the Beatles hits. I had a copy of this CD but lost this and have been searching for one unsuccesfully.

    Have you listened to this album?

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Thank you. i’m going to look for that motown cover,

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    Bob Mathews Reply:

    The Title of this album is “Motown Milestones: Motown Meets the Beatles “.

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  • Ajit Vadakayil

    Hi,

    Punch into gooogle search ANNA HAZARE’S JAIL BHARO ANDOLAN UNJUSTIFIED- VADAKAYIL
    Show some balls PM Manmohan Singh.
    Prove Advani wrong!

    Capt Ajit Vadakayil
    ..

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  • http://twitter.com/am_i_akshay Akshay Shetty

    a very well written piece. i am amazed at ur bravery to pen such contentious articles. but i along with many other readers have placed my trust on u. please don’t disappoint us

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Anna did a great job – that of crystallizing public anger into a movement against corruption. The later political part played by Team Anna is of course unacceptable in a democratic and parliamentary set-up. Therefore, he was defeated politically and should now retire to his village – however, Indians do owe a great thanx to Anna.

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  • Anonymous

    ” VERY WELL RESEARCHED & DARING PIECE, I SALUTE YOUR VALOR & INTELLIGENCE IN BRINGING OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT ANNA !”

    Now you may not mind sharing the booty you earned for writing this piece.

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  • abhiji

    “From what I understood, the RSS and the BJP were the ones who had decided to put Anna in his place:”
    Great job. Shooting two birds with one stone.
    I am surprised why the congress is so pleased that the movement against corruption seems to be fading, and the lokpal bill is stalled again! In my mind;

    This government cannot, simply cannot, pass a strong lokpal bill and lose control of CBI. If that happens, all the skeletons will fall out of the closet. Starting with the Great Bhopal Gas Tragedy, where 30000(?) Indian lives were traded for a few pennies in Swiss and other foreign banks, to Bofors and Quattrochi, to a scam a day today, when Billions of Dollars of Indian Tax Payer’s money is being deposited in Swiss and other foreign banks by sick(?) worthies going on foreign travel tours covered by official secrets act and coming back healthy when their job is done, all these skeletons will fall out of the closet. Where will the Queen hide then? It is the duty of all her minions to protect the Queen. No, this government cannot, simply cannot, pass a strong lokpal bill and lose complete control of CBI in the process.

    Long live Anna!

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  • Anonymous

    I think we should pitch Rober-t Vadra for CM thru the HT.

    At least the HT staffers luv for the dynasty would be satisfied.

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  • Anonymous

    Why were surveys so wrong in Bihar?

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  • Anonymous

    Sunita,
    The thing is Rahul has never proved himself. Working hard in campaigning is no substitution for real work. What has been his contribution as MP? ZERO…
    I find Sachin Pilot much better but why HT doesn’t project him as potential PM.
    Unfortunately educated journos are becoming mouthpieces of dynasties (Nehru-Gandhi, Pawars, Thackreys included). Let there be fair level playing field rather than allowing parachute entry.

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  • Anonymous

    Biju,
    You may be favoring Rahul for communal reasons..I have never met a christian opposed to Sonia-Rahul.

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  • Kumars1

    All kinds of forecasts are being made. In 2007 Mayawati had been written off but did very well. The NDA was supposed to win in 2004. One fact doesn’t change however. HT and its columnists always pitch for the ‘baba’ and his family. This family has been in power for decades and decades, the country is still dirt poor.

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  • Anonymous

    What work are you talking about? Campaigning and nautanki is not work.

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  • Nair

    Ehat isn that they have done to Amethi and Rae bareily?. Don’t just priase then you immoral christain women

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  • Atul8

    Sujata,

    I am as surprised as you are about this revelation. One would have expected the usual witch hunt post election loss, and that is what the TV media is alluding to in their pronouncements.

    Having said that, the seniors in Congress can no longer work on surrogate relationships with the masses. Amethi & Rae Bariely are examples of how the name no longer has that pull. Almost like a zero balance in a prepaid connection.

    The first family will have to roll up their sleeves and earn that name all over again, and this time, make it their own.

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  • Atul8

    Sujata,

    I am as surprised as you are about this revelation. One would have expected the usual witch hunt post election loss, and that is what the TV media is alluding to in their pronouncements.

    Having said that, the seniors in Congress can no longer work on surrogate relationships with the masses. Amethi & Rae Bariely are examples of how the name no longer has that pull. Almost like a zero balance in a prepaid connection.

    The first family will have to roll up their sleeves and earn that name all over again, and this time, make it their own.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    Prophecy when it is a noun, Sujataji, prophesy when it is a verb.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    There is not enough time left to work out in the gym, to strengthen the calf muscles. Better to stitch up sensible alliances, which is what brought the Congress to power in 2004, after eight years in the wilderness. With the benefit of 225-28 hindsight, would it have been such a bad idea to have forged an honorable pre-election alliance with the SP for UP and then taken them on board at the Centre ? It may be the Ekla Chalo Re crowd that is smoking the lethal stuff.

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  • Kumars1

    Amazing! Sujatha is hinting the results are actually good for Congress from 2014 angle! That is presuming other parties will stand still and wait for the first family’s orders. These Congi sycophants/journalists take amazing twists and turns to try to please their masters.

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  • Mitra

    Mamata Banerjee = thoughtless/ mindless populism + inability to delegate + paranoia + little knowledge of governance and related issues and an inability/unwillingness to learn = chaos in West Bengal = no improvement on CPI-M. At least the Bengali people can now find jobs in Patna – given that Bihar has been doing well.

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  • Anonymous

    Funny now Sujatha is quoting twitterati’s displeasure with Mamata. When the twitterati overwhelmingly appreciate Modi, Sujatha and co. dismiss them with disdain. Selective memory?

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  • http://www.desibits.com/ Avinash

    SP was/is never the choice of UP voters, rather they did not have any other option. What a common voter think about a common politician of today, sorry I will not be able to write because of decency and if at all I dare to write, HT will not publish saying I am writing vulgar language. People had only choice. There two “……..” in the fray contesting elections and we have to choose who is little less “…….” knowing well both are not competent to run the show.

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    Saron Reply:

    People had expectations

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  • Kumars1

    Sunita, I hope young Akhilesh reads your article. It has commen sense and goodwill for him. For the sake of his state and even India as a whole, I hope he succeeds. But I fear he may not succeed against old time wayward ‘uncles’ i.e. comrades of his dad. Sunita, ask your newspaper to stop being a Congi rag and be balanced and you will find fair minded people appreciating it.

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    Saron Reply:

    Thanks — I think new leaders should be given a chance

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  • Saron

    Lets watch six months

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  • Saron

    Agreed

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  • Saron

    Thanks— He has good intentions , sounds positive

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  • Saron

    you are forgetting the carnage

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5TH32LS67LS5PGDOANXJAKKCQE kg

    no more PM from UP. They are casteist and most corrupt. India need PM who bring reforms. who does not consider caste as a political strategy. None from UP will do that.

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  • Anonymous

    Terrible choice for PM. UP has produced only PM’s interested in promoting Casteist policies, cronyism (Gandhi family), and totally corrupt people barring Vajpayee.

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  • http://www.hindismsinhindi.com/ hindi sms in hindi

    bogus pms lagte h bindi…now
    read sms in hindi

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  • Anonymous

    With the total mess in governance, the country desperately needs a strong and capable hand at the helm. A man is there. His name is Narendra Modi. If as you say, Mohan Bhagwat is blocking him, then the RSS chief is not serving the nation’s interests. I was given to understand that the RSS was a selfless nationalist organisation. Rahul Gandhi or even better his sister Priyanka Vadra maybe acceptable, but minus vote bank manipulative politics and touts and scum like Digvijay Singh, Kapil Sibal, Manish Tiwari, et al. Mulayam Singh or socalled Third Front will be pure disaster as previous experience has proved.

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  • Anonymous

    Sujata is always high on drugs..Totally useless blog.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XVK6BRUJHTBJCDMA6YSIFBUBE Suresh BV Bharadwaj

    Let the Sanatani Indian Aryan, Dravidian, Mongolian & Australoid Indian Hindu, Sikh, Shinto, Tao, Confucian, Buddhist & Jain Swami Rama Krishna Ramdev, Swami Anna Krishna Baburao Bapat Hazare, Arvind Kejriwal, Kiran Bedi, Santhosh Hegde & India’s PM Manmohan Singh bring back home Indian black money from USA, UK, Switzerland, Indian Children Abducting Norway, & Mainland Europe. Let them also introduce the All India Anti-Corruption Statutory Institution known as Lok Pal to curb & eliminate corruption & also take stringent punitive actions against Octavio Quattrocchi, George Fernandez, Richard Nixon & the European American Christian David Headley, the executor of the Mumbai terrorist attacks. George Fernandez made lots of Indian Defense Compromising Corruption Money in the procurement of coffins to carry the dead bodies of Indian soldiers. George Fernandez, the bête noir & chief tormenter of India’s PM Indirani Priyadarshini Gandhi was scandalously made the Defense Minister by Atal Behari Vajpayee, who had, at the time of India’s Bangladesh victory in 1971, described Indira Gandhi as Sanatani India’s Hindu Goddess Durga Kali Mata. In 1971, Indira Gandhi was described as a ***** & Indian men were described as sons of ******* by the Non-Aryan, European American Protestant Christian Quaker President Richard Nixon, who instructed USA’s more than 150 intelligence agencies, USA State Department (now under the control of the Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton who was insulted, rejected & downsized by her sex-addict & serial sex-offender husband & USA European Protestant Christian & Half-Irish President William Jefferson Clinton in their own white House residence. Even as Hillary Rodham Clinton was in the USA President’s White House, her husband was coolly having sex with Monica Lewinsky. Even as Bill Clinton was on phone talking to UK queen, Norway king, French President & European Christian missionary Theresa, Bill Clinton was having oral adulterous sex with Monica Lewinsky in USA President’s office in Washington D.C.) & the USA Remote Body Area Networks, Mind Reading Networks & Mind Control Networks operating in USA Embassy in New Delhi, in other Asian countries & the rest of the world, to monitor, manipulate, body read, body control, mind read, mind control, harass, humiliate, insult, harm & kill India’s PM Indira Gandhi. The Half Indian the Half Iranian Rajiv Parsee Iranian Shia Muslim Firoz Jehangir Nawab Ghandi was body & mind monitored, manipulated, read & controlled by the USA & European Remote Body & Remote Mind Control Networks to get near, compelled to have sex with & marry a Non-Aryan, European Italian Roman Catholic Christian low-educated & wine, beer, vodka, rum, gin, whiskey & intoxicating alcoholic liquor serving & non-vegetarian food such as cow beef, sheep mutton, chicken white meat, sea fish & chicken eggs serving London Bar Waitress Sonia Antonia Maino, the family friend of the European Italian Christian Octavia Quattrochhi.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shovon-Chowdhury/507224224 Shovon Chowdhury

    Hey, Rupa! Bad things can happen if you eat or drink too much. Like this…

    http://shovonc.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/mamata-banerjee-collapses-after-drinking-red-label-tea/

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    Kushal Reply:

    I’m not Rupa, Shovon.

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  • AshishC

    Kushal,
    “I’m sure all of you everywhere have your own childhood memories of provision shopping, but I think mine are the most magic.”
    Maybe yes, maybe not. But, you certainly brought yours alive. Great read.

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    Kushal Reply:

    Thanks Ashish!

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  • Kushal

    Looks like we’re back at stage 4, Kanika. Sad face.

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  • hyde

    I am smiling, not because of the monsoon’s whims, but at the way you wrote it. :-)

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    Kushal Reply:

    Grin. Thank you, Hyde.

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  • masha

    First time in Mumbai during the monsoons and my husband has decided I’ve finally completely lost it.. I spend my time poking my head out of the window and whining “Why is not here yet? When will it rain like they show in the movies?” and my poor dear husband says “Wait, it is only June. By the time September comes by you’ll be driving me up the wall asking why isn’t the monsoon over yet.”
    Alas, the first proper day of monsoon, as in the first day it rained so heavily on a weekday is the one day I’m in Calcutta. :( It’s hot and so humid here that a mere 5 min trip outside the airconditioned environs of my hotel has me running to drink water and take baths (2 down, 2 to go). But on the plus side, I get to have rolls, phuchka, churmur and aloor dom so it isn’t that bad really..
    P.S. When will it rain like they show in the movies?

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    Kushal Reply:

    Oh poor you, Masha! Though not really, you got to eat real food. Grr.

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    masha Reply:

    Muahahahahahaha *Read evil laughter*

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  • Aram

    I wish it pours in Bangalore too …. We have been missing it ….

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    Kushal Reply:

    When did you move to Bangalore, Aram? Or were you always there? For some reason I thought you were in Delhi.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Boom in Bombay journalism was also helped by a boom in the journalism of other cities too. Sunday of calcutta editied by MJ Akbar brought a big change in investigative journalism by his incisive reporting on the Bhagalpur riots and other stories. The boom in magazines on a national scale also helped vernalucar dailies who cashed in on it by sprucing up their Sunday editions. Siasat Urdu daily of Hyderabad introduced its Sunday magazine section in the 70s and then coloured it fully later on, which helped it become the largest selling Urdu newspaper in the country. N Ram of the Hindu presented readership in chennai and to India an international scene through Frontline. And then Sportsworld edited by MAK Pataudi and later on Sportstar gave sports (read cricket) enthusiasts that much more Masala on Cricket as well as other sports. Then who can forget Jug Suraya, Bachi Karkaria, Vinod Sharma, Khalid Mohammed, Saeed Naqvi, Swapan Dasgupta, Mujtaba Husain and many more star writers who have contributed greatly in popularising their magazines / newspapers? All of them have done their bit to boost the sales of their publications.

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  • Guest

    Is the market for expensive magazines large enough for them to make serious money ?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/kanikadhupar Kanika Dhupar

    Yes, I have these conversations too. Though I feel miserable when I come up with a wisecrack, which refuses to occur to me at the right time.

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    Kushal Reply:

    I KNOW Kanika. So frustrating.

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  • Kushal

    S’okay Abhiroop, I never remember what I wear anywhere either.

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  • Kushal

    S’okay Abhiroop, I never remember what I wear anywhere either.

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  • Bijal Shah

    Hi Vir, There is undying of the fact that a comment from west is considered much more worthy than one from within. Not only a comment on politics but on many other aspects like economy, social aspect and entertainment amongst others. Most of the Indians and Indian corporations like to flaunt praise from west, collaboration with western companies, invitation to an overseas event. Most of Indians have deep craving to know what foreigners think of India. This also evident from the fact that any interaction with foreigners either on TV or elsewhere include a question that what he thinks of India or a specific aspect of India. Every first time visitor to India is asked did he like India (though there is little be like about). This questions are more rhetoric in nature – asking foreigner to praise at least something about India. Probably we Indians deep down in our hearts still think whites are superior.

    However, reading you blog I felt that as an Indian journalist you feel jealous about foreign press getting more attention than Indian. I agree that with you that PMO has paid needless heed to Washington Post’s article. But journalist like you should first criticize Indian media for making it a headline. All big stories on India in the western media (Modi on Time, Underachiever title by Time, Washington post article, etc. etc.) have become headline in Indian media (print or television). Does it indicated that our journalist fraternity also has high respect for foreign media and their views? I think you should first criticize your profession before talking about political class. Especially, as media is expected to be at the forefront of change and its thinking & writing should not be embroiled by colonial era.

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  • damnright

    Sorry, Stop using “we”. Indians cannot take criticisms, and cannot support freedom of speech and talking the truth if it is not favorable to us. So stop complaining and fix this country full of bugs and thugs!

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  • Guest

    Even journalists defer to a fair skin. Just a few days back, there was a TV show, two very senior Indian journalists, one of whom had earlier held the second most important job in the country, two goras, one the author of the piece discussed in this column, both middle order stringers, and the Indians, were truly deferential and on best behaviour, far less combative than if they had been interacting with two relatively junior Indian colleagues with a nice suntan.

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  • Manish

    Sir,
    The way the title was put, I thought I could find an answer, but you have actually given a history, without answers. If you are really thinking the answers lie within ourselves, then this article was actually meaningless.

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  • dr.joji cherian

    Almost all the main line American media are tools of Neo Cons. They churn out reports and articles in the garb of “news”..At times blatent lies as in the case of their “discovery” of WMDs in Iraq forcing that hapless nation called America into a war.You only need to attach that much credibility to these American “news” outfits.the latest article is another attempt to malign browbeat the prime minister who is trying to take an independent stand such as attending the NAM meeting in Iran.Learn to dismiss the motivated reports and articles with the contempt they deserve

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  • Anonymous

    Vir Sanghvi knows who and what Pankaj Pachauri is and why he was selected to become the Press Adviser to the PM. I shall not go into that. But I do not understand why a person of Pachauri’s capabilities (and there must have been many for his to be selected) and his background in journalism, does not read the writing on the walls and hear the voices in the streets with a common refrain – India is disappointed with Dr. Manmohan Singh’s second tenure as PM.

    It would have behoved Pankaj Pachauri’s intellect, had he advised (now, isn’t that his job) the PM that reacting to the WP article would only highlight the PM’s failures and gradual but precipitate drop from a person of high personal integrity to someone who does not care or cannot take care that India does not hurtle down the path of economic and moral decline.

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  • Dr. Mustafa Kamal Sherwani

    An Advice to Dr. Manmohan Singh
    ***************************
    Your innocent look, your unblemished past,
    Invokes my pity, Dear Dr. Manmohan Singh;!
    When I see the dust gathering around you,
    That blurs your glory as an honest king.
    At the head of this corrupt and dishonest gang,
    Do you think, you are safe from their dirt;?
    When I find you on the defensive plank,
    I always feel anguished, I always feel hurt.
    I have a deep regard and respect for you,
    To save your image, leave these vices’ heaps;
    The history will judge you by a single norm,
    ‘A man is known by the company, he keeps.’
    Dr. Mustafa Kamal Sherwani,LL.D.

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  • Critical Appraisal

    Despite and inspite of western criticism, ‘we’ still go outdoors for our bare necessities and use water for washing up! This only means we don’t give a shit to their thoughts – while the PMO which remains indoors for emptying its bowels and use may be tissue paper for the cleaning act, do give a shit to it. Therein lies a lesson – going outdoors & using water to wash away or remaining indoors and using the toilet paper to dry out!

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  • Critical Appraisal

    Despite and inspite of western criticism, ‘we’ still go outdoors for our bare necessities and use water for washing up! This only means we don’t give a shit to their thoughts – while the PMO which remains indoors for emptying its bowels and use may be tissue paper for the cleaning act, do give a shit to it. Therein lies a lesson – going outdoors & using water to wash away or remaining indoors and using the toilet paper to dry out!

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  • Kushal

    I’ve read The help and everything by Eva Ibbotson, but thanks for the Patrick Rothfuss tip, Masha. I’ve just read SO much crime fiction for SO long that it feels like my brain is stuck. I need something new.

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  • Kushal

    I’ve read The help and everything by Eva Ibbotson, but thanks for the Patrick Rothfuss tip, Masha. I’ve just read SO much crime fiction for SO long that it feels like my brain is stuck. I need something new.

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  • Kushal

    Not any more I’m not, Kanika. :(

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  • NoDoubleStandard

    Well, I would like to see you make a similar persuasive argument in favour of liberal views when it comes to a particular region. As in when people criticize that religion

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  • Kushal

    Kanika – :)

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  • Kushal

    A great chance, Deb, since you recommend it. Thank you!

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  • Kushal

    I know, PG. I often don’t take reviews seriously. (Even though I occasionally write them myself.)

    How nice of you to continue to read my blog :)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/kanikadhupar Kanika Dhupar

    I took great pains to source Midnights Children from a friend’s friend and read upto pg 10 *sheer excitement*, lost interest. Read some more cuz I thought MAYBE i will start liking it. Left the book after the first chapter.

    5 months later, I found it dumped in my cupboard and started it again, never saw the end. With all due respect to Mr. Rushdie, I deciphered two things:
    1) It is a majorly over-hyped book.
    2) It does not hook you, not in the start or in the middle. (I never reached the end)

    Haroun and the Sea of Stories is the only work of Rushdie I have read and maybe it is the last as it is likeable and pretty *I can’t keep it down* interesting.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/kanikadhupar Kanika Dhupar

    PS: I am glad you invoked your rights :)

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  • Anonymous

    The country needs only “vote bank” Muslims and NOT thinking Muslims.

    I doubt if it suits anybody to allow Muslims to think.

    If they start to think then

    a) They will question why a group of Saudi despots manage to rule the Muslim mind

    b) Why the Congress in India wants to use them as a vote bank separated form the rest of Mainstream Indians

    c) Why Muslim women need to be discriminated by gender UN-equal laws.

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  • HemiFaulk

    the film on You Tube was say 15 minutes long, I saw about five minutes total, bad script-acting-quality, regardless of subject matter its not worth seeing. The film is a non factor yet its importance has been exaggerated by media and others who wish to inflame passions or further political aims that are not always readily apparent.

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  • Oshon

    Vir Sanghavi lacks some general knowledge. Modi is more famous in Indian states than any other regional politician. Thanks to the 95% Indian journalists who keep roaring against Narendra Modi, just to keep the corrupt politicians happy. I like Modi also because cheap Indian media hates him.

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    bparthip Reply:

    Media hates Modi for all wrong reasons!!

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  • M

    that was his personal space!! at his home may be((kya sex nahi kara tune abhi tak bacche!!)) …. not in PARLIAMENT!!! GET YOUR ‘RSSPEDIA’ FACTS RIGHT>> !!
    YOUR BJP MLA WAS WATCHIN PORN IN THE STATE ASSEMBLY>>>> THAT SHOWS BJP’S IDEOLOGY!!

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  • a

    ha ha hahaha hahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

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  • B

    its clearly visible who is EDUCATED and whos NOT!!!!>> you looser!!

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  • Math Expert

    Good News….Paid News Expert and Congress Dalal is back in action-Mr Chor Sanghvi

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  • bparthip

    every rat has its opinion…let this one have one too!

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  • bparthip

    He is one paid journalist that you know…. but we do not know how many are there who’s articles we read avidly!

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    sanjeev Reply:

    Read this before opening your mouth:
    http://virsanghvi.com/Article-Details.aspx?key=703

    and this
    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?278785

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  • A

    What can you expect from a person who is always pro-congress.Vir ,barkha,vinod sharma has lost objectivity in their lust for being pro-congress.They should take some lesson from shekher gupta and vinod mehta.

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  • bparthip

    tu kya minority chatu hai kya?

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  • bparthip

    Educated muslims are again a huge minority…though muslims per se are breeding to become a majority!

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  • VIPIN

    Dear mr sanghvi ,what you have twite you don’t know .the real fact.

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  • Prabhat

    BJP should come a pro hindu and project Narendra Modi as its prime ministerial candidate atleast pre-poll. They should unmasked the face of these so called secularist and make india a Congress free state. They sud not worry abt this rotten, shameless, lunatic, idiotic, irresponsible, shameless, characterless media. One thing bjp must know that they cant be as shameless as congress. They sud come with a substance. They need just 51% of 85% vote. They can easily win 200 seats. After that every party will support them. India needs a change. A change for her survival, to protect her values, to protect her economics, to protect her spiritual culture.

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  • p gandhi

    Mr. Vir Sanghvi, as you have yourself written you have not visited Gujarat in the recent past, please leave your food joint habits and first visit Gujarat. When you yourself say that you are not an astrologer, then why (mis) speculate 2014 against Modi only. You must speculate for the recent future i.e. december,2012. Aap kal ki chinta kijiye parson ki nahin.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/roshiley Roshan Shah

    Wait.. there is another angle to this..

    A dictator style ruling has not gone well with many BJP members, party workers,government officials and many Gujaratis. Also ‘Sauno Saath, Sauno Vikas’ claims have proved to be hollow and without merit.
    Many BJP partymen have left organization that they served for many years because of this functioning style of Modi and formed a new party under leadership of Keshubhai Patel.
    Keshubhai Patel who is the person who brought BJP in power in Gujarat is no pawn. He knows equations and elections very well and will certainly be a huge thorn for CM Modi who has become Diwana to see himself as PM of India.
    Here is what will happen:
    - GPP will take away few seats in Patel strongholds
    - Some credible independents will take away many seats due to Anna Hazare effect. There will be Media Support pouring for good independent candidates. This is what India needs and we think Media will rally behind good young leaders. This means tally of independents will increase.
    - Gujarat Congress which is smartly playing their moves on issue based politics over individual politics will see its tally increase. All muslims who felt cheated due to ‘Muslim Topi’ incident at Sadbhana rally will vote for Congress just to keep Modi at bay. They can sense Modi downfall now.
    - Gujarat Congress may again field Dinsha Patel against Modi in Maninagar who lost last election by 86,000 votes but this time GPP, Muslims and others will probably support Dinsha against Modi. Modi’s image has taken huge dent because of his closeness to businesses, failure in education, healthcare and govt transparency. Plus Modi has been supported by Cabinet Ministers who themselves have Criminal cases pending against them. Not asking Parshottam Solanki to resign after HC ruling will be a huge issue for Modi’s governance.
    - GPP will never support Congress as they come from years of service and loyalty to BJP. Supporting Congress will make them lose their goodwill.
    - BJP will get less tally and will not be able to form govt without support. GPP will support BJP but will not want Modi or anyone from his current Cabinet as CM. Suresh Mehta of GPP can become CM.
    - Even if BJP cannot get its same tally in Gujarat or cannot increase its count, it gives Nitish a point to prove that Modi’s administration is rejected by Gujaratis and he has not been able to gain more seats. Central BJP leaders like Sushma and Jaitley who feel threatened by Modi as PM will not allow Modi to get elevated to PM.
    - So Bye Bye Modi…

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  • rik

    I hope the muslims Realize what they are doing to the country by voting
    congress. It is time they voted MODI and help bring positive change in the
    country.

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  • Sha

    All BJP chamchas sitting commenting hoping to change public opinion. Remember Public only chose u once. That too because of Atalji who was mistreated by u guys. Now just dream on.

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  • Sidd

    This immoral journo is passing a comment on a leader of men who has faced so much adversity for sake of his people. Sir Sanhvi, please see the anger in people’s reactions. We cannot allow loot of this country by creating a false fear among minorities. Please support #ModiforPM. In the longer run you and your ilk will benefit

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  • HARJAP SINGH AUJLA

    There is no denying the fact that Narendra Modi reigns supreme in Gujarat. Gujarat is a different state, where the Hindu does not vote on caste lines. Yes he can’t conquer Delhi, because in other states, the Muslim is united, but the Hindu is fragmented in caste system.

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  • Yogesh

    Vir is not so vir.

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  • Hari

    We know who you are….we are not Gajinis….don’t try to fool us again…..

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  • A Sanyal

    Yes Mr Dalal, we know we know…only people from the right lineage of the fake “Gandhi” family can rule in Delhi and there are many “dalals: committed to ensuring that.

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  • Deep Bhaduri

    For this dalal only a university drop-out nitwit is good enough to become the next PM, after all today we have a puppet who is controlled by an Italian ex-maid.

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  • Peekay

    I think Vir Sanghvi foresight about Narinder Modi’s predictions are full of flaws. It may not make great impact for the first one but once they are entrenched, it would be difficult to dislodge him. He is an honest politicians and very very few exists at this moment. Just look around Vir, the politicians personal wealth is increasing laps and bounds sucking up public money. Narinder Modi at the centre with full majority could bring peace to the whole country. I guarantee it.

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  • Virat

    This guy is a low quality journalist who’s opinions are biased towards the congress first family. From his comments regarding Neveen Patnaik, he regards anyone voting for Modi as ‘indecent’. This is an clear insult to the people voting for Modi in the general elections.
    This is why the author is an immoral , biased and unethical journalist.
    His career, is over or in tatters because of this.

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  • More indian :-)

    What about the latest dalal we know. You got it, I am talking about Gadkari. He openly said he will write 10-20 letters to request center to release money for contractors.

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  • ss

    Talking of dalals, we now have the mother ( or should it be mother in law) of all dalals in who presides over a corrupt party and a corrupt family. Time to get rid of the family and send them packing to their friend and fellow crook – Quattrochi.

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  • ris

    First Vir and his buddy’s wrote against modi and discredited him so that he would lose Guj elections now they know that …they cant bring him down in Gujarat so this new bull about him not being able to get to the PM post and him not being popular enough for this position.
    Also vir you can be delete post here but truth will not go away ….you are basically a spineless person who has been exposed….stick to manipulating resturant owners and chef’s for free meal.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    The frustrations of the RSS and the BJP supporters come out so vividly and vociferously – just one glance on the response to the above write-up is enough to know that they realize that the BJP is not going to come to power in the next elections. and Modi will never become the PM – India has never had mass murderers as PMs, at least not as yet. The only way to rule over India is through moderation – Akbar the Great has shown it very clearly 400 years ago; we only have to follow his example.

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  • Mayank

    this pimp should be banned from writing after being exposed in radia scam

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  • Guest

    A fair assessment. However, the BJP should give its CMs greater importance in its national scheme of things. Few of its so called national leaders can get into either house of Parliament without the help of a friendly regional satrap.

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  • Hari

    Development does not mean that everyone becomes a millionaire, totally agree with you, but it also means that everyone has access to the most basic ameneties like food, healthcare etc.Not everyone in developed countries like USA is a millionaire, but people do not face issues like malnutrition.This is how in the world developed countries are actually evaluated.24 hours electricity and good roads is just one aspect.Modi has failed on all issues like HDI etc is what the point is.

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  • Arun Kumar

    Mr Vir Sanghvi is stuck in the past. He is an arm chair strategist. Times have changed and the electorate today wants to see performance. Perhaps he should care to see the results of Bihar in Dec 2010. This whole bogey of pseudo secularism of the ilk of Sanghvi’s does not wash any more, even with the muslims who have seen through the game of the Congress. With time people evolve except prejudiced minds such as those of Vir Sanghvi.

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  • Nelaish

    “He openly talks of Chandrababu Naidu and Jagan Reddy having Muslim bases / votebanks. And yet, it is the BJP alone which is branded as communal party representing Hindus. What this implies is that it is alright to represent a particular religion and still be called secular, as long as it is not Hinduism.” Hahaha Awsum man… Kya diya hai rakh kar in pseudo seculrs ko…nanga kar diya Singvi g ko (oopss sorry is nange ke kapde to pahle h nai the Nadia ne utrwa diye the…:D !! Shame Shame Mr. Singhvi..

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  • santosh

    Mr. Sanghvi, if BJP declares Mr. Modi as it’s Prime Ministerial candidate, they will definetely increase their numbers,i m from U.P. but if above happens, we will vote BJP and if BJP increases its numbers, allies will come automatically same happened in 1998 n 1999. as for as Mr. Modi is concerened ,his popularity is increasing in all the North Indian States dramatically!

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    MR SINGHVI ,YOU ARE BIASED AS USUAL.YOUR PROBLEM IS ,INABILITY TO SEE WRITING ON THE WALL.
    CONGRESS BEING HAIRDEEP IN CORRUPTION ,IS TOTALLY EXPOSED.IF PM IS HAVING FILES CONTAINING CORRUPTION CHARGES AGAINST 15 MINISTERS INCLUDING HIMSELF,AND PM HIMSELF BEING REFFERED AS WEAK ,SONIA’S P… ETC.BY AMERICAN PRESS ARE EXPOSED.
    PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A STRONG LEADER WHO CAN ACT AND DELIVER.
    MODI IS ONLY ONE. EVERYTHING ELSE WILL FALL IN LINE.
    NO CONGRESS MINISTER IS EVEN ABLE TO HAVE COURAGE TO GO TO GUJRAT AFTER A VERY DAMP SHOW BY SONIA.

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  • jvaity

    modi is the only hope in india, or every hindu will die by mongals. all congressmens are ready to to fly with sonia. beware vote to only modi. thanks.

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  • jvaity

    kya bat hai bandhu, all maharashtrians are with you.

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  • Amit Bansal

    This article does not take into account various factors as follows and if these factors are taken into account then the end result could be different from what Vir proposes
    - That in the recent hangout on google + with Narendra Modi there were a large number of people participating and asking questions to Modi from outside Gujarat. Only because of his performance in terms of development in Gujarat, a sizable population of the country seems to be becoming his fan. People wish to have a PM and CM like him in each and every state of India. During elections it is high probability that such a desire of the people of our country will translate into votes.
    - Is congress really in a position to yet once again communalise votes in this country based on religion. Atleast from examples of Gujarat, MP, Goa, minorities and especially muslims will understand that they have been enough utilised by cunning politicians from the congress to caste votes in their favor. You may have a situation when section of the muslims might switch over to the BJP.
    - After all the corruption and scams which have come out against the UPAII, even die hard loyalists of congress, from the times of Nehru and Shastri and Indira have become opponents and vow not to vote for the party in the coming Lok Sabha elections. The true colours of Sonia and Robert Vadra are out in the open, Rahul Gandhi´s inefficiencies to even lead a significant ministry in the Central government is known. Priyanka could not even win seats for her party in the recent UP elections in her constituency.
    - Every family in India of whichever religion today wants a better life for its children. They want their children to be educated. Bread and butter, education and health, the awareness is more about these and the priority attached much higher than before. BJP governments in different states have been focussing on these very issues.
    - BJP will win 200 seats and all of the allies will join. Nitish Kumar and Mamata would be the first ones to join. Nitish Kumar has done well in Bihar but let us not forget the base with which he started. There was nothing happening in that state. And now when things are happening the numbers are showing. It is like , I have a product which i do not sell and the moment I start putting efforts I make a 100% sales growth in the first year. Nitish has a long task ahead of him and even if he is able to bring out Bihar from the mess that it is, he would have done a great service to the Nation, much more than any PM at the centre could. Naveen would come along, so would Amma, Shiv Sena and Akali will be there.
    - The last , in todays time it is very difficult to find national leaders and put them in the front. National leaders have to be built. Good performers in the states have to be given chance at the centre. Nobody is born to lead India. leaders are made. Narendra Modi has proved enough that he is capable of running the country. Even an honest PM, who does not allow his team to indulge in corrupt practices can turn the governance of the country upside down. Just one honest person under whom there is no corruption. The mechanism of governance is run by bureaucrats and officers. You just need to be transparent and not allow them to indulge in any corruption. More than half of the problems of the country will be solved. The rest is to have a vision and take the country in that direction

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  • Amit Bansal

    This article does not take into account various factors as follows and if these factors are taken into account then the end result could be different from what Vir proposes
    - That in the recent hangout on google + with Narendra Modi there were a large number of people participating and asking questions to Modi from outside Gujarat. Only because of his performance in terms of development in Gujarat, a sizable population of the country seems to be becoming his fan. People wish to have a PM and CM like him in each and every state of India. During elections it is high probability that such a desire of the people of our country will translate into votes.
    - Is congress really in a position to yet once again communalise votes in this country based on religion. Atleast from examples of Gujarat, MP, Goa, minorities and especially muslims will understand that they have been enough utilised by cunning politicians from the congress to caste votes in their favor. You may have a situation when section of the muslims might switch over to the BJP.
    - After all the corruption and scams which have come out against the UPAII, even die hard loyalists of congress, from the times of Nehru and Shastri and Indira have become opponents and vow not to vote for the party in the coming Lok Sabha elections. The true colours of Sonia and Robert Vadra are out in the open, Rahul Gandhi´s inefficiencies to even lead a significant ministry in the Central government is known. Priyanka could not even win seats for her party in the recent UP elections in her constituency.
    - Every family in India of whichever religion today wants a better life for its children. They want their children to be educated. Bread and butter, education and health, the awareness is more about these and the priority attached much higher than before. BJP governments in different states have been focussing on these very issues.
    - BJP will win 200 seats and all of the allies will join. Nitish Kumar and Mamata would be the first ones to join. Nitish Kumar has done well in Bihar but let us not forget the base with which he started. There was nothing happening in that state. And now when things are happening the numbers are showing. It is like , I have a product which i do not sell and the moment I start putting efforts I make a 100% sales growth in the first year. Nitish has a long task ahead of him and even if he is able to bring out Bihar from the mess that it is, he would have done a great service to the Nation, much more than any PM at the centre could. Naveen would come along, so would Amma, Shiv Sena and Akali will be there.
    - The last , in todays time it is very difficult to find national leaders and put them in the front. National leaders have to be built. Good performers in the states have to be given chance at the centre. Nobody is born to lead India. leaders are made. Narendra Modi has proved enough that he is capable of running the country. Even an honest PM, who does not allow his team to indulge in corrupt practices can turn the governance of the country upside down. Just one honest person under whom there is no corruption. The mechanism of governance is run by bureaucrats and officers. You just need to be transparent and not allow them to indulge in any corruption. More than half of the problems of the country will be solved. The rest is to have a vision and take the country in that direction

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amit-Sharma/782062691 Amit Sharma

    Dalla phir Bola…lol

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  • h.Mani

    When is the last time any politicians answered any charges.?In USa,if a cabinet Secretary issues a death threat to a citizen,he is toast for life.Any thing goes in India.In a strange way,what Robert Vadera said is true,India is Mongo-Banana republic,even you have to agree.It is very sad,first of all,they are so physically out of shape,not to speak about smarts.

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  • tbr

    Indian democracy is “scumbag” sham democracy.

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  • nkbansal

    I wish that type of debate existed in India. Corruption appoints people on the king’s seat who have no good ideas but know only to rob India.

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  • tbr

    Indians want to wear every brand name and then gang rape a woman. I don’t think even Taliban does that to women. I think we have a very different problem than Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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  • Rahul

    Sorry. Indian politics is not mature enough to have such a debate. Indians in general are more inclined to enjoy life, argue about things and let others do the task of nation building. When India gets serious we can have debates otherwise it will be an entertainer with no tangible value and only an agreement to disagree in the end as usual.

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  • Sumit Bose

    Mr Dalal, you ask if Gadhkari is a crook?…Well may i have the liberty to wonder how our beloved Italian ex-maid has been named the 4th wealthiest politician in the world and that does not register in your radar with a resounding blip?

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  • Anon

    Follow the model from US TV show Newsroom. No-one really does that even remotely in Indian media, but is really what Media is meant to do.

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  • JR

    BJP can produce a number of people up for a debate; but who would turn up for Congress? They don’t even have a person who can speak intelligently without making a face on TV. Unfortunately, a Journalist can’t be put up disguised as Congressman.

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  • nitin agrawal

    to debate is one thing and to argue is other…sadly we prefer the latter one. in order to have a indian western mindset like this obama-romney debate we should have a open mind. my presumption is that sincew we are all dirty, we fear to debate. another thing is that people market those thing whioch people like to buy and vice-versa. indian populace wants steamy issues like rahul as a pm etc. kareena weddings etc .we hate constructive debates. it is us who need to give preference what to buy and what to reject.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    We must have such debates – as only then would the masses be informed and educated about those issues. Whether one likes it or not, mass media is also an educator – look at the response Aamir Khan received for his show – that proves the point that people are ready to listen and respond to intelligent shows. Likewise, if our vernacular media begins addressing national issues on TV, and in a less hyped way than the way Hindi media addresses them, there’s much scope for its success.

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  • vijay !

    cmon Vir ! Give us some solid mainline aritcles on teh anti corruption movement and on how which party will win.

    Or have you staked all that for sukhomvit street.

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    Akruti Mehta Reply:

    Whats the exact reference foe Sukhumvit street for? I mean, i know its one of the longest roads in the world, present in Bangkok. But how does it fit here? In this context?

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    Akruti Mehta Reply:

    reference to*

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  • Jain

    “Nobody is going to tolerate this kind of robbery – where you pick a
    man’s pocket and then spit in his face – in this day and age.” guess what Mr. Vir folks in India are and are not doing anything about it. The corruption is rife be it in private sector or public and the folks who dared the courage to fight it have been sidelined. So this is India…..Mera Bharat Mahan….now if our babus can come up with strict laws to fight some of these then something can happen….but guess what they won’t since they would be the first in line going to jail

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  • Anonymous

    Corruption everywhere including airlines. Vijay Mallya has no sense of shame. He will not pay his employees but continue flying in his jet everywhere.

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  • RKA

    India’s private companies will definitely benefit from a structured bankruptcy model like “Chapter 11″ that is in the US. It allows corporations to continue to function while working with the government regulators to restructure things like debt. It is long overdue for reform of how Indian companies are run. We will then not have a fiasco like Kingfisher. I’m surprised that the Ministry of Civil Aviation has let this drag around for so long – and instead of taking surgical action – have allowed for undue and extended pain to customers and employees. Where is the Indian Government here – sitting on the sidelines?

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  • Anonymous

    Pity if you Indians had studied abroad like us from Pakistan, the first lesson you would have learned would have been about ‘Corporate Social Responsibility’. I bet you guys have never heard of this term, all you guyz can think of is ‘Katrina ki shaadi kab ho rahi hai’ or ‘Priyanka aur Shahid ka break-up kyun hua’ LOL!

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    bobby Reply:

    Obviously you have little knowledge about India. Don’t mistake India to be like Pakistan.

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    vishv Reply:

    My Friend Go to webpages of major indian companies like Tata and reliance and see their CSR ventures , don’t talk like a moron..almost all major companies invest in CSR projects.

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  • http://twitter.com/nps_ca Nick P

    The Zombie that is AI allows others to think they can do better… Let AI restructure properly with a CLEAR mandate that NO further taxpayer funds will be used. This will force AI to a path with creditors and investors that truly bring the Airline forward. In a proper restructuring for AI the Govt must be clear that existing labor contracts will NOT be honored. The amount of employees per aircraft systemwide is appalling. Even the best run Airlines in the world have significantly less total employees. This “dead wood” is the killer, along with the fact that no one ever wishes to confront the employee groups. It should be clear, work with us to restructure or it will all just go away.

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  • rahul001

    Aviation is a difficult business to make money due to fixed and operating costs. Kingfisher was a world class airline where India could take pride in terms of service and quality but it was 10 years too early for its time. Mr Mallya did a great job in building the airline but alas he is no Richard Branson operating in mature markets with better infrastructure and highly productive human resources. On top of that does India allow hedging of oil like other global airlines? Do Indian airports put additional tax burdens on private aviation? Does India provide attractive financing for the aviation industry so that air travel can be cheaper? We have a heavily supported national carrier directly in competition with private carriers…isn’t that unfair competition? Does the government get to choose winners and losers? Is it the governments agenda to facilitate and not participate in private industry?

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  • Guest

    Most Indians would be hard put to name the owners of Indigo but on the couple of occasions that I have flown on it, have found it to be a first rate airline. That is the future of aviation in a price sensitive market like India. as for Vijay Mallya, he is showing his class.

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  • goldie

    sir ji ask your congress friends about this…maybe you can start with sonia ji with some questions?? or is it that you mave have the courage only enough to ask a stray question here and there to singh sahib only…
    will congress never ever answer anything about anything in this country…or will fellows like you never ever have the courage to ask a straight question to the guys responsible…
    rather than write such a long sleepy prose about airlines failure..sir ji..pls..write a direct hard hitting questionnaire to aviation minister, prime minister and chair person of upa…straight, fair and square..else i think yours is a worth;less attempt at nothing significant.

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  • Anonymous

    I am flying by Air India next month, I hope everything will be on schedule.

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  • ajay

    Dear Vir Sanghvi, did you ever tried to find the reason why the Air India is so Bad? it same because of very same people you do not have courage to criticise. Pilot Union is affliated to NCP. so they do whatever they like. Pls wait till elections, once NCP is booted out, then we will see how those pilots bahave.

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  • ajay

    Dear Vir Sanghvi, did you ever tried to find the reason why the Air India is so Bad? it same because of very same people you do not have courage to criticise. Pilot Union is affliated to NCP. so they do whatever they like. Pls wait till elections, once NCP is booted out, then we will see how those pilots bahave.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Well said. Air India survives on the gulf sector – and the indian passengers from gulf are the most shamefully and shabbily treated. SHAME ON AIR INDIA AND THE AVIATION MINISTRY. Con ban raha hai billionaire

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  • http://www.facebook.com/haridhar Haridhar Reddy

    This article brings out the problems faced by passengers , investors and above all janta janardhan (The tax payer)

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  • HemiFaulk

    You don’t say, from the looks of Bollywood all I ever see are Indians smiling and being happy, itsn’t that the case.

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  • m.r.dua

    this is mere gas !
    sorry !

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  • Indian

    Also want to say Godhra Muslims are known rioters even before Babri Happened.This is for people to know the mentality of these people.

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    TAJENDER Reply:

    BRHMNSTS WERE KILLING AND MURDERING MUSLIMS AND OTHER SINCE 1969.GODHRA WAS PERPETUATED BY AGENTS OF KILLER MODI.

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    anangsen Reply:

    Yes, this is a fact. Like Azamgarh, Aligarh area of UP where muslims are organised into gangs which can be mobilised to create riots, loot, arson, rape within a matter of minutes. It is muslim gangland.

    The author paints a picture of carnage against the muslims, writing about their plight in graphic detail…..but why is he TOTALLY SILENT on even WORSE done to Hindus by his beloved muslims in places like Kashmir and Mumbai? At least the riots in Guj were in RETALIATION to the train incident…..against what were the muslim gundas retaliating to in Kashmir and Mumbai????

    The writer thinks that he can create mass hysteria by penning such trash, but he is forgetting that this is the internet age where people will not merely meekly accept this drivel but write AGAINST it!

    Sorry Mr. Zia Haq, but times have changed, and you shall see the new dawn on the 20th.

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  • Someone

    You read that line “Modi koo jaana hoga” in article they have not forgotten what happened though HIndus whose relatives got killed in Train Burning have forgiven and started their life but this people(Muslims) dont forgive and dont have any tolerance they will live in past and thats why Most of Muslim Country are backward only ones somewhat rich are the ones who has lots of oil otherwise they are stone age people.

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  • yuceem

    Death is always a traggic matter, no matter who the person is and the mode of death, riots, accidents, natural disasters or plain criminal acts. The author and the likes of him want to highlight as if the riots were one sided and unprovoked . An incident like train burning in any other country would have resulted in wars- what was the reaction of USA, after the 9/11 incident, it went to war and castigated practically an entire religion all over the world as terrorist suspects. Why does not the author and his fellow secularists write about common people in Afghanistan , Iraq etc too? Why donot they write about Assam ? There have been riots in other places at different times,(all are a blot on humanity) why this special focus on Gujrat ? Because in most other riots, the scores were more or less even or the ’secularists’ had upper hand, but in Gujrat the ’secularists’ were outdone. Hence their grouse .

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    When you live in a civilized world you leave retribution to the State. When you take matters into your own hand and hunt for revenge your actions do not deserve commendation.

    In the case of most post Godhra rioters at an individual level, their violence was indeed unprovoked because neither they themselves, nor their families were the victims of violence.

    Further, if you compare the Gujarat rioting to the post 9/11 Afghanistan war then you imply that the events in Gujarat were a civil war.

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    sheo Reply:

    When Muslims suffer they talk of civilized world. But what they do now and have been doing since ages is forgotten. Wait till the entire world will throw your kind of guys out from their countries. Behind every terrorism there is a muslim hand. You have provoked the entire religions. The Hindu families who suffered in Gujrat were not the direct enemies of the muslim goondas but suffered just because they were Hindu Pilgrims. So they provoked the Hindus Community itself and so the defensive retribution and message. Civilized countries regret having let you in. They simply don’t like you at all.

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    Your kind of guys? What kind of guys are these?

    You must live in world of very small ideas if you instantly presume that anyone opposed to your views fits into a convenient stereotype that you can knock down with a strawman argument.

    By the way, you think like a tribalist. Very similar to the muslim ideology you oppose.

    Faulitics Reply:

    I agree with your well made and articulate point. Collective punishment is a terrible crime and that’s what happened in gujrat but its not the first time this has happened and its victims have not always been Muslims. By the way, comparison with a concentration camp shows that Zia is all about propaganda and I have never ever seen a single article from him about Hindus being targeted in various places and specifically Kashmir by Islamic fanatics and are little more than traitors to this country.

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  • Debasish

    What happened in Gujarat in 2002 post Godhra is deplorable and every right thinking Indian would condemn it. But what is also deplorable and condemnable is what happened in GODHRA as well as in Delhi/UP and other places in 1984 and numerous other riots in different parts of India under different regime.

    Has the writer ever bother to find out about the ghosts roaming in Godhra or in Delhi where he lives. His only focus seems to be Gujarat and Gujarat alone and that too only post Godhra and that too only muslims. (Some Hindus were also killed post Godhra though a smaller number).
    That decisively proves that you are a Musilm first and an Indian later (despite all your claims to the contrary). And hence, you have zero credibility for educated nationalist Indians who want all communities to prosper and empathize with all communities.

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    It is not necessary to deal with all instances of rioting when one is dealing with a particular instance. There are plenty of books which deal with the history of all rioting in India. This article has a more limited scope.

    In the case of the Delhi riots most or all of the politicians who were reputed to be involved are dead or removed from power. In the case of Gujarat, Modi is still CM.

    That is why it is necessary to analyze the Gujarat riots even when one is not dealing with all riots as such. And since Modi is CM it is more necessary to analyze post Godha events than Godhra itself. For if Godhra was bad (it was) then the possible involvement of the state machinery in post Godhra events was worse.

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    Someone Reply:

    Tytler is in CWC till I heard and also was recently involved in Orrisa police harassment case.

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    CWC is not as important as an elected CM but you’re right. Political parties have to learn to keep these people away.

    Debasish Reply:

    I am not talking about the space in this article. Look at all his blogs and tell me did he ever bother to think about “other” Indians?

    You are trying to equate Narendra Modi with Jagdish Tytler etc. Equivalent of Modi in 1984 riots were Rajiv Gandhi (Delhi was not a state then and came under central governance) and Narayan Dutt Tiwary, the chief minister of UP. Rajiv Gandhi became the PM of the country AFTER the riots – nobody made any noise then like they are making now.
    Equivalent of Jagdish Tytler, Azad Kardam etc. in 2002 was Maya Kodnani. While Kodnani has been convicted, people like Tytler, Kardam etc, who were known to be close to Gandhi family BEFORE the riots, have been scot-free.

    Though twice as many people were killed in 1984 riots, there have been very very few convictions in 1984 riots. While I am happy that many people have been convicted for 2002 riots, we, as a nation, have failed the victims of 1984 riots. And there is nobody to shed tears for them.

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    Actually, I’m not equating Tytler to Modi. I’m saying Tytler is a relatively minor figure compared to Modi.

    It is sad that many who have been involved in rioting (_all_ rioting) have got away from justice but that does not mean that people should continue to get away.

    “nobody made any noise then like they are making now.”

    Well, maybe Indians have grown up over the past three decades and are making a noise now. Wouldn’t you agree that that is a good thing?

  • http://www.facebook.com/kashi2222 Kashi Kashi

    absurd article, Muslim mind set never changes, they think they can get away by doing anything under the guise of minority victim hood, every riot should be ascertained by thorough inquiry the initiators should be punished more stringently, this fellow should have done same with respect to kashmiri pandits, and fellow who think that modi has been cause of Hindu Muslim riots should explain what was the cause when hundreds of riots happened without modi, these fellows never learn lessons from history, ambedkar opined that Islamic brother hood is not universal brother hood it confines to Islam only,

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    It is simply sophistry to assert that a person who holds Modi responsible for one riot should have to explain the cause of all riots or that if Modi is not the instigator of all riots then he is the instigator of none.

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    Kashi Kashi Reply:

    you have got infantile immaturity, what i have stated that no single person can instigate entire community against another community, both Muslims and Hindus should sit together and try to understand what are the causes of riots between them, Muslims in particular better discuss with Hindus than depending on opinion of person like you who think modi is root cause of all the riots in our country

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    Maybe that’s what you _meant_ to say but not what you did manage to say.

    How did you manage to conclude that I’m holding Modi responsible for all riots in India?

    Kashi Kashi Reply:

    small kid can do that

    Guest Reply:

    And that’s the only level on which you operate.

    devil_wheels Reply:

    The question is not about who but about how.

  • devil_wheels

    Then it is remarkably easy for other people to lead you around by the nose.

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  • Nitin

    This dude always cries in his articles about Muslims being raped in this country, and talks shit about non-Muslims. I wish he could be charged for spreading communal hatred, but with the blessings of his masters (Sonia, Mulayam, Lalu..) it will never happen.
    @Zia: You seem to be an educated moron, so I also can not expect you to preach your community to stop doing the wrong. All the best with your writings.

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  • Vipul

    I can tell hundreds of disgusting inhuman stories from Mopala’s in 1920s to partition riots..Razakar’s barbarik act in Hyderabad in 1948 to till today in UP and several other parts..where thousands of Hindus are butchered.

    Forget about Muslim killing Hindus…450000 women were raped in Bangladesh in an official estimate by fellow religion soldiers..which is still continue as shia genocide in Pakistan and several other countries..

    But my dear friend Rioter has no religion what ever he claims he is. But there is no point of scratching the same wound even after 11 years in the name of journalism. Move forward. there is whole tons of issue in front of Muslims in this country. Dont vote for BJP but at least get a good bargain from your secular parties beyond just vote bank and protection from BJP.

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  • Vipul

    I can tell hundreds of disgusting inhuman stories from Mopala’s in 1920s to partition riots..Razakar’s barbarik act in Hyderabad in 1948 to till today in UP and several other parts..where thousands of Hindus are butchered.

    Forget about Muslim killing Hindus…450000 women were raped in Bangladesh in an official estimate by fellow religion soldiers..which is still continue as shia genocide in Pakistan and several other countries..

    But my dear friend Rioter has no religion what ever he claims he is. But there is no point of scratching the same wound even after 11 years in the name of journalism. Move forward. there is whole tons of issue in front of Muslims in this country. Dont vote for BJP but at least get a good bargain from your secular parties beyond just vote bank and protection from BJP.

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  • CalifGuy20

    If Modi is opium for Gujarat’s masses — then we need such opium for all of India’s masses. That will shut up authors like this forever. They should be put on the next flight to Pakistan.

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  • CalifGuy20

    Another typical “communal” muslim writer — perfect “secular” man for Congress.

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  • Saukat ali

    We all believe that bunch of people like you are opium of sick-ular! As you people came of with your definition of secularism than We all know congress and their slaves are best communal force in India to ruin our unity and since 65 years they are being anti-national, We are sick off tired of such people. God please act fast…..we all curse you for being fake and biased.

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  • Saukat ali

    Why writer like this never came up to condemn terrorism done by muslims? why such people keep mum when kashmiri pandits being forced to move? why they keep quiet when mumbia attack happen? Such a hypocrite!!!!!! Look arround you moron…see what religion of peace is doing….the name has no meaning to it!

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    There are plenty of writers who do condemn terror done by muslims too. Islam may not be the religion of peace it claims to be but that does not make every individual muslim guilty of terrorism. Nor does every non Muslim gain the right to seek vengeance.

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    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    Agree that all Muslims are not terrorist but definitely almost all terrorist are Muslims….Open your eyes and see the beautiful world of Muslims. A religion founded by a pedophile, mass murderer and rapist can only perpetuate on these foundations.

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    Open your eyes and try to actually read and understand my post before you fire off a reply.

    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    That wasn’t personal at you. I was talking about the people Who always say Muslims are not terrorist. Apologies if I sounded otherwise.

    devil_wheels Reply:

    I apologize for misunderstanding.

  • Saukat ali

    I left Islam long ago because of its not religion of peace…Very intolerant, violent and force on us by invaders. I feel now I am close to the god since i left islam.

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    Try leaving all religion behind. It is empowering when you learn to rely only on your own mind.

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  • sam

    Man this article writer some sort of a MANIAC it seems, may you die in hell, shameless creature, if you are so concerned, please leave HINDUSTAN and go to PAKISTAN and make a living. Senseless article.

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    devil_wheels Reply:

    Senseless post.

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  • LATEEF

    GOING BY THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD IT BECOMES CLEAR AS DAY THAT THE MUSLIMS HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE PUNISHMENT COMMENSURATE WITH THE SINS (ATROCITIES ) THEY COMMITTED ALL OVER THE GLOBE. AS PER THE LAWS OF NATURE THEY WILL SURELY BE CALLED UPON TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR DOINGS, ONE DAY.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohammad: The opium for muslim masses

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    TAJENDER Reply:

    bullshit

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  • THIRD EYE

    A FOO# IS A FOO# FOR EVER, NO AMOUNT OF SYMPATHY FROM ANY QUARTER CAN HELP HIM TIDE OVER HIS PLIGHT .INDOOS HAVE A SPECIAL APTITUDE FOR THAT. NO END WILL EVER COME TO THEIR SUFFERING.

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  • Anil Kumar

    Godhra, India’s Auschwitz ?? Seriously ?? I thought 1984 riots could be compared with it in wildest of imaginations for its targeted killings. This only shows the extent of the hatred towards a person. The article and the writer can never be unbiased after tht. This is my 1000th or more article on Gujarat and Modi. Generally, the articles spew venom on Modi, and the comments(90% of them) curse the writer. There is something inherently wrong then. The more Media targets him, the more followers he gains. Mayb its time for media to learn from Congress in Gujarat and the policy they followed in 2012 election. Targeted maligning of one person is not correct. There are crooks and rogues going scott free in India. Mayb its time for the media to distribute their energies. And this victimhood of mulims is not helping the national integration cause either.

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  • Chetan

    Its only Muslims, who are poor, ignored and had in-justice, Hindus, Parsis and other religion are very rich and dont have any problem at all in India, Have you ever went to the homes who are burnt alive in the train?

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  • Sheo

    When India was divided in two countries Pakistan was made a Muslim Homeland.

    Why didn’t all muslims go there ? Their share wad given. Such a big event happened. The nation was divided into two and they still decided to remain in Hindu Land. It is wrong by all means.

    My question is when Muslim got their land and made it an Islamic Nation then where should the Hindus go and say Hindu Homeland. In our own land our pilgrims were burnt and roasted alive and muslims laughed. They did not even sympathize with the aggrieved families instead they burned crackers to mock the Hindus, What should they expect then ? Are Hindus cowards that every one ridicules us. The Hindu Tolerance is taken as being meek. The Muslim refugees who stayed back and didn’t go to Pakistan and now ridicule us. What What What is expected of the Hindu then ? Why do they have separate laws for them ? Why they didn’t integrate with the nation. They always support Pakistan and Islam. The nation should come before religion.

    This congress is run by a Muslim ( Pseudo Gandhi) who shall only loot the nation and favor Muslims openly not to sympathize with them but only to get votes.

    Throw out the congress and all will be well.

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    RAMAVTAR Reply:

    POPULATION TRANSFER WAS NOT PART OF DIVISION.

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  • engrich

    bullshit most of big temples were built during moghul period.ashoka built 60000 temples in orrisa later demolished by his great grand son on the advise of his brhmn pm.in hinduism temple is bussines.it is they who capture occupy and demolish others places of worship.

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    Azad Murtad Reply:

    This comments from the followers of a religion who worship the pagan god in Mecca – - the black stone

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    Dr.raj Reply:

    yeah this statement from a supporter of a religion whose main place of worship is one which is built by breaking another religions place of worship And so shameless is the prophet who boasts the same on the book that you think is an answer for all questions.

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    Dr.raj Reply:

    yeah this statement from a supporter of a religion whose main place of worship is one which is built by breaking another religions place of worship And so shameless is the prophet who boasts the same on the book that you think is an answer for all questions.

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  • Sheo

    It was a Hindu Army which saved the Muslims Benaglis in Bangaldesh where more than 3,00,000 girls were merciless raped and butchered by MUSLIM PAKIS. Intelligentsia was skinned alive and butchered.
    This is what is taught in Islam ? and these Bangladeshis muslims forgot this.
    The very reason why people love Modi and made him a hero is becuae you guys hate him

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    rao Reply:

    than 3,00,000 girls were merciless raped
    figure is hyped by 1000 times.delhi is rape capital ofworld.

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  • engrich

    godhra train burning was carried out by goons of rss and vhp,to provide reason for ahmedabad riot.which was preplanned.

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  • engrich

    Godhra has a history of violence by Muslims which is known to Gujarat as such so dont just keep train burning as someone else

    GODHRA HAS NO HISTORY OF MUSLIM VOILENECE .FIRE WAS STARTED BY MODI AGENTS.NO ONE ELSE.

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    Indian Reply:

    In 1980, five members of a Sindhi family, which had migrated from Pakistan during the partition, were burnt alive at Muslim-dominated Signalfalia in Godhra.

    Their’s was the lone Hindu family in the area and oldtimers say muslims wanted them to vacate their house and leave.

    In 1990, four Hindu teachers of Saifia Madarsa in Vorwad area of Godhra town were killed by Muslims,

    These are few incidents which HT only published recently in article so dont lie and spread false info on Internet

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    skb Reply:

    for all above there is law.culprit should be punished.incidence are few.happens in every municiality.AS PER FIR PUMPS TO EXTINGUISH FIRE WAS BROUGHT BY MUSLIMS.there is no proof that muslims ignited the bogey.

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    Someone Reply:

    Convict have been given punishment in the train bogey case which consisted names of Muslims for your info so there is no question or argument on that.

  • rao

    well said islam is religion of hate and violence look what they are doing across the world

    BULLSHIT MUSLIMS ARE VICTIM OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM AND BRHMNST OF INDIA.

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  • Har Gobind Bhukkal

    The essence of this blog is – **** in **** out. On the same note you have justified every paisa of congress showered on you till date by writing this. Intellectuals like you in Muslim community are more responsible for its downfall than any other factor. Queen Maino is definitely proud of slaves like you.

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  • Gujarati

    Although I am hindu, am not a fan of Mr. Modi’s politics. I have seen muslim brutality in Ahmedabad during 1992 riots. I was working in Muslim area of Mirzapur, fresh from university. 6th December 1992, I was stuck up in Mirzapur chowk and so does thousands of hindus working in that area. Then suddenly firing started from nearby mosque and person on bike beside me got blood in his hand and even before he realize, he fainted. On that day rushing to get out of Mirzapur, I and my fellow coworker, saw few more burning bodies of Hindus. In the evening in Maninagar area, we saw Muslims firing on the people living in Uganda Park. Police officers there on duty were bagging for unregistered firearms because JD+Congress government did not provide order to fire at Muslim mobs attacking this hindu areas because they could loose muslim votes. They didn’t get one because there were none. I saw 6 young hindus killed just in Uganda Park/Lalita Society area, one of which was elder brother of my former class mate, with last name Verma. You can still see his memorial at Lalita society, Isanpur.

    I have grown up with lots of muslim friends in Shah-e-Alam area and nothing personal against Muslims. Sh*t happens because of these politicians but people like this author are creating more bad blood between Hindus and Muslims.

    Past is past. I have forgotten and so does my fellow Hindu and Muslim gujaratis. We are hardworking community and reaping fruits of it.

    But people like this author and news papers, all of them, not only HT, remind us of our wounds. My humble request is to stop reminding us these bad times.
    If you are true Indian, start working towards connecting Hindus and Muslims instead of pulling them apart.

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    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    Kudos for coming with ground realities of Gujarat. As to the author, writing against Modi and indirectly against the Hindus is his bread and butter, he’s paid to do it, he has no choice. These people don’t want Muslims to prosper and assimilate in the society. If this happens, their paymasters the CONgress will lose their votebank. It’s all about votebank politics – nothing more and self-styled journalist like this one abound and prosper in today’s media as CONgress has got enough coins to throw at them. Sh@me on today’s media.

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    Parashuram Yadav Reply:

    Man.. why are you lying? shame on your RSS khaki chaddi. There were 3000 Muslims who died and you are blaming them?

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    Indian Reply:

    where do you get these figures some say 7000 muslims some say 3000 muslims while Government of India says 1200 something that to not only muslims but 1200 consisted of 25% Hindus.

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    Indian Reply:

    Also he is talking about 1992 not 2002 !diot

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Excellent post. But gutter rats survive on the filth in the gutter. Zia needs these propaganda articles to survive.

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  • naresh

    Reading Zia’s article one feels that partition in1947 was not complete

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  • speakloud

    Hindustan Times , MOUTHPIECE of Congress ,what one can expect ? As said in Marathi Language.. MAKAD MAHNTO MAZI LAL.

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  • vijay

    The writer is biased and prejudicial to Modi and the Hindus he only mentions the train incident once which was the source of the carnage. He mentions words like demagogue, opium, Aushwitz, in reference to Modi. The more you vilify Modi more readership you get in the secular media, but while writing this he has forgotten and fallen short of glorifying Idi Amin, Omar Al Bashir, Osama bin Laden. This is not the Hindustan Times i knew it should be renamed The Congress Times.

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  • AM

    love the introduction where the writer states Modi is supported by filmstars and Business and when madani arrives in Gujarat he is received by mahesh bhatt (another bollywood representative) who the writer feels is the beacon of hope for the muslims. Come on Zia ji , you cpuld have done better

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  • Sandy burger

    This journalist didn’t bother to visit Godhara and see burned trains. Or to meet dead Hindus. one sided idiots.

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  • winston churchil

    This author has the audacity to call Gujrat, the Auschwitz, forgetting how the muslim rulers treated Hindus, destroyed their Temples, desecrate the deities,
    imposed Razia, and forced rulers to marry their daughters and wives and looted the nation. Muslims, who are intolerant to any other religion, killing Shias and Ahmadia’s, while they are praying, and trying to convert the whole world to Islam. This author, who proclaim to be the Muslim face, show read the history, and be grateful that he can write such stupid articles and get is published, walk over to Muslim Pakistan and he will get a lesson of his life. The muslims, are
    the nucleus of terrorism in India, these home grown, traitors are behind every
    act of terrorism in India. Gujrat riots would not have happened, if his Muslim
    brother would have not torched the train carrying Kar-Sevaks. This author must be thinking that it is a birth right for every Muslim to kill Hindu, be a terrorist and
    a traitor- because muslims are chosen people. Those days are gone, when
    Muslims can kill majority with impunity. Muslims listen to only one language, that is called FORCE, one can not reason with them, every body is Kafir, and
    they are the only chosen son of GOD. So please stop this nonsense of
    Auschwitz and get a life or migrate to Pakistan and be happy their. That counry was created for people like you.

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  • http://twitter.com/VandeMaBharati VandeMaBharati

    As usual rant of Hindustan trolls in favour of Khangress and Millais

    Wasted my 10 mins reading this bs.

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    vin0059 Reply:

    VandeMaBharati u are are an absolute and real nonsense.800 years of muslim
    rule was golden period of indian history.roads building cities were
    built by muslim rulers.india had gdp 25%of world gdp and literacy was
    93%.there was complete communal harmony.shudras were given good posts in
    armed forces.everybody was equal before law.education was free and
    state was obliged to pay even for books and copies.

    britishers called muslim india as sone kee chidia.

    in 65 years u destroyed indianness of indian.

    in vedic period doors of education were closed to nonbrhmns for 3000
    years .justice was according to caste not crime.even swarsati is
    jahil.it is because of muslim rule india was better than its
    neighbour.see nepal,lone hindu kingom of world.

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  • Parashuram Yadav

    This is a blot on India. It is a shame that the main perpetrator get’s elected by the Gujaratis. We have lost of shame, lost of sympathy and empathy. Hindus have become devils, who think that they worship Ram, but in reality they started worshiping Raavan. Shame.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Both ram and raavan are mythical. Does it matter if you worship either Donald Duck or snoopy? By the way, is your sympathy for a person depend on what religion he is or is it based on truth and fairness?

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    Mehul Reply:

    Write with your original name @sshole

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  • Faulitics

    Karl Marx said that religion is the opium of the masses. That’s generally true of most religion and especially true of Islam. Zia has consumed that opium so only the suffering of people belonging to Islam will be visible to this opium addict. A sign of a fanatic is when you see a person looking at everything through his religious prism and when he looks at people, he sees greens and saffrons. Since green is his favorite color, his focus is on green and doesn’t care a damn about saffron. Arabization is to blame for this kind of attitude.

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  • Jogi

    The author sounds like a Fanatic and seems blinded by hatred for Gujarat and Gujarati’s. Please make a visit to Gujarat and see the progress of Minorities. Please compare it with the condition of Minorities in states like UP, Bihar, AP and Delhi which are ruled by so called “Secular” governments. Think beyond Minority appeasement and be impartial in your thoughts and do not spread hatred with such graphic details of isolated cases. Smell a rat, when such writings are published on the eve of voting in Gujarat. Need some sensible journalism.

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    munde Reply:

    The author sounds like a Fanatic and seems blinded by hatred for Gujarat and Gujarati’s

    GUJRATIS ARE MOST HARAMI PEOPLE SEE WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MAHARASHTRIANS IN MUMBAI.SHIVSENA SAVED US.THEY ARE FARTY THIEVES.EVERYONE WANT TO BECOME harshad mehta.

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  • dronacharya

    Milestogo : I cannot afford… and will not forego my claim on “Earth”.

    Historybuff : Hindus are a very evolved race. They know how to survive.

    Kaalchakra : Its not as easy as you think. One man leading – and Aal Izz Well.

    India has 200 MM(20 crore) Muslims. Out of which 97.5% are poor.
    There is no power on earth that can give each one of them a bottle of
    water (600 ML). They are passing thru the “Hudaybiyya” Stage of
    evolution. A compromise is necessary. My culture is completely Hindu.
    Language. Food. Dress. I enjoy Dhrupad Music (Temple singing). And i
    have the Islamic Faith (Advaita/One God.. Eko Jagadeeshwar – Eko
    Jagatguru). The two are complementary. There is NO contradiction.

    Hindus are not willing to give the job of a PEON to a Muslim. That
    would be “appeasement”. So what do they offer ? Migration or Death.
    One muslim dead is one muslim less ! (They will steal his kidney first –
    before killing him.. even dead-bodies can fetch money, you know…
    Skeletons sell well). Muslims in India will have to (and luckily are)
    adjust to changing times.

    First : We have to (and we have) give up urdu/arabic/persian
    completely for the next 300 years. THat has to be replaced by
    english/french/chinese mandarin..

    Second : Shaayri (urdu/arabic/persian) must be suspended for the next
    300 years. That has to be replaced by Physics/Math/Sciences.

    Third : Music and Dance must be accepted as + points. The taboo from
    liberal arts must be removed. Man needs aesthetics too. So we delve
    deep into the ocean and dance… flowers… rivers… rain… nature worship ?
    No. In nature we see Allah.. and remember him. We dont worship the
    rain. We see it as His manifestation of Grace !

    Fourth : Education. GOI has no money (and no will) to spend one
    single rupee on muslim welfare. Then what ? Solution is : Home
    Schools. A network is needed… wherein we DUB the whole KG-XIIth CBSE
    Sylabbus in Urdu.. and that resource material (it would take atleast Rs.
    200 crores to do this project) should be available for free.

    Muslims do not have money to feed themselves.. who will pay for the
    internet connectivity.. who will buy them the Tablet ? There is no free
    lunch in this world. I think some creative Financial Solutions are
    needed in this regard.

    Muslims need not burden themselves with a single rupee. They need
    not give a single rupee out of their wallet. A change of mind is
    needed. THey need to improve their AQLAAQ. Respect people. Speak
    mildly. Fight arrogance and pride. And there must be MUTUAL SYNERGY
    amongst muslims.

    If you have lots of clothes and want to get rid., wash your clothes,
    iron them., put them in a plastic bag., and give it to the needy
    muslims. Same for books. Shoes. Bags. Linen. Bedspreads. even
    Furniture and appliances. Speak gently.. LOVE EACH OTHER.

    IF INDIAN MUSLIMS LOVE EACH OTHER – EVEN WITHOUT GOVT. SUPPORT – THEY CAN SURVIVE., AND EVEN THRIVE.

    INDIAN MUSLIMS ARE 20% OF POPULATION. IF they achieve synergy..
    they can survive. We need 100,000 Muslim C.A.s. We need Muslim
    Startups. Musilm start-ups must employ poor muslims. Those poor muslims
    (labour) must work sincerely and not stab their Master.
    Pyaar-Mohobbat-Khuloos- Mutual dukh sukh.. a certain BOND.. needs to be
    strengthened.

    MUSLIMS MUST DO ON A WAR FOOTING : C.A., MBA., START UPS., SCIENCE AND MATH.

    This is the agenda for the next 300 yrs. Any other issue(s) may be
    discussed after such time. Whats the hurry. Lets try this for the
    first 300 yrs… and see the outcome.
    Au revoir

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  • agnivesh

    compartment was burnt by goons of rss and vhp to provide reason for ahmedabad riot.brhmns and banias hate lower caste hindus more than muslims.they killed shoodra hindus to give reason.killing muslims was yearly affair.hindus of surat paid cash to hinu gundaas

    to keep surat calm.

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  • satyender

    1000 plus communal riots and demolition of babri mosque is enough to show the real face of high caste hindus in india.

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  • satyender

    1000 plus communal riots and demolition of babri mosque is enough to show the real face of high caste hindus in india.

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  • satyender

    Jinnah believed in the equality of man regardless of religion or race etc.

    Mahatma Gandhi it must be remembered said that he was a Hindu first and
    therefore a true Indian and also that Black people were lesser human beings than
    other people.
    that is why commun politics never succeeded in pakistan.

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  • satyender

    Jinnah believed in the equality of man regardless of religion or race etc.

    Mahatma Gandhi it must be remembered said that he was a Hindu first and
    therefore a true Indian and also that Black people were lesser human beings than
    other people.
    that is why commun politics never succeeded in pakistan.

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  • rao

    This is absurd when Muslims do something(train burning) it is by unidentified

    any proof .fire started from inside.there was no muslim inside.who loked the door and why.

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    bharat shah Reply:

    though more to Muslims because it started by them burning people.Hindus
    accept they did mistake but no Muslim regrets Train Burning which shows
    how much tolerance guys have towards people of other Religion.

    bullshit.bogey was put on fire by gundaas o rss and vhp to provide reaso for riot which was preplanned.these antinational gundaas were perpetuating riots since 1969.every riot was dividing society and strenghting bjp/rss vote bank.

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    Someone Reply:

    If you have proof go to court and prove it there that it was done by RSS. Shouting here with no proof wont help.

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    THE AUTHOR REMINDED ME OF AUSCHWITZ,THE MOST NOTORIOUS CONCENTRATION CAMP DURING 2ND WOLD WAR.HE TALKS OF GULBARGA SOCIETY ASET OF FEW APARTMENTS AS SYMBOL COMPAREABLE WITH AUSCH WITZ.
    IF WE CAN COMPARE ATROCITIES COMMITTED ON THREE DAYS ,CONTINUOUSLY ,WITH WORST KIND OF LYNCHING WITNESSED AFTER 2ND WORLD WAR AT THE INSTIGATION OF RULERS ,IT WAS IN DELHI DURING 1984.THE NOOF PERSONS SLAUGHTERED WERE 5000.THE BURNING TYRES AROUND NECK WAS COMMON SIGHT.THE BEAUTY OF GREAT CONGRESS PARTY IS IT DIDNOT ALLOW ANYONE TO BE PUNISHED.
    THE ARMY HIGH COMMAND WAS AT A SHOUTING DISTANCE BUT,’JAB BARA PED HILTA HAI TO DHARTI KANPTI HAI…’THE EARTH SHOOK AND TOOK UNLIMITED CORPSES WITHIT.THE PEOPLE WERE NOT MEEK BUT OUR MARTIAL RACE MR HAQ.WE ARE PROUD OF THEM .
    CAN WE CALL DELHI A BIG AUSCHWITZ DEAR JIA HAQ.

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  • Abhi

    Zia thinks that by telling lies again and again, they take a semblance of truth. Auschwitz
    wqs what happened to Hindus in Pakistan in 1947. If Zia wants conciliation, let him write about HIndus in Kashmir, who are living in refugee camps after 23 years in their own country. Or, is that also a “Muslim land”, MR. Zia?

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  • dinesh sharma

    Whether Mr. Modi is the opium for Gujarat’s masses or not, however, I am quite sure, after going through the length and breadth of the history and in the present day context, all the Dharmas prevailing in this world are like nasha of Opium. Amongst all of them, Muslims have always been ahead and in forefront in taking that Opium deeply and in greatest quantity.
    Suffice it to say that the atrocities whether they were committed on others by them in the name of Islam or by the followers of other faiths on Muslims, the root-cause behind all the bloodshed, in all cases and in any view of the matter, is only and only the Muslims, who are solely responsible for their ill-fate. They do not believe in co-existence and their demands are endless, which can never be met and fulfilled.
    It is because of their adamant and aggressive attitude towards other faiths, everywhere in the world, as we saw in Kashmir, Pakistan, East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) and so on, they are indulged in raising high the flag of Islam, without going into the fact at what cost and by what means, they are doing so, to achieve their goal. Their ideas and dreams cannot be met and fulfilled because this world is a place where peace cannot be prevailed for ever, even on their demand, the whole world is converted into an Islamic state and all human race become the follower and adopt Islamic faith, for which they are striving against for centuries.
    As far as Hindus are concerned, by nature and by heart, they are peaceful at heart and have always embraced the others with open heart and mind.
    Muslims should give a serious thought and ponder over the causes that why they have become a non-acceptable entity, having all the attributes which are found in other sects and what distinct and separate them from others.

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  • lk

    quran forbids cysnicism is classical statement of taqqiya strategy used in quran to invite victimization status. the author must remember india-hidustan from indus rive to indonesia was and is part of vedic civilisation – a new civilisation from arabic desert imposed to natives by force and claiming victim status wont work in the age of modernity, feminism and nationalism. The faithful of muslims can live in peace in darul islam of saudiarabia if they think grandiose that they arent part of vedic civilisation and they are sent by god and non muslims are not.

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  • lk

    “Quran forbids cynicism” is classical statement of taqqiya strategy used
    in Quran to invite victimization status. the author must remember India-Hindustan from Indus river to Indonesia was and/ is / and going to be part of Vedic Civilisation – a new Civilisation from Arabic desert imposed to natives
    by force and claiming victim status wont work in the age of modernity,
    feminism and nationalism. The fundamentals of islam are on shaky grounds. The faithful of muslims can live in peace in
    darul islam of saudiarabia if they think grandiose that they arent part
    of vedic civilisation and they are sent by god and non muslims are not.

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  • lk

    everyone reading this article – should also read this and take decision unbiased
    http://www.islam-watch.org/MA_Khan/MeherApostacy.htm

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  • dronacharya

    Gandhi remained the same. From South Africa to Delhi 1948. But he became
    sophisticated. “One great use of words is to hide one’s thoughts” said Voltaire.
    So, Gandhi said something and DID exactly the opposite.

    Vijaye Raje Scindia (Financier of RSS for decades) rightly said : “He was an
    old hypocrite”. An honest confession is : Gandhi was NOT a honest person. He was
    dis-honest to the core ! He said, “India would be partitioned over my
    dead-body”…. and then took a 180 degree turn !

    True leaders do not change their hats, that easily ! India is (was) a land of
    fools, as Jus. Markandey Katju rightly said… and Indians are fooled easily.. As
    late as 1992.. Advani was successful in fooling the HIndus over Ram Temple.. and
    “hatred for the other”. And if Muslims express anger : they are dubbed
    terrorists… Provoke and Attack…. THAT is the RSS strategy.. until they are so
    subdued., that if killed., they dont cry. If raped, they dont complaint. They
    accept it as their FATE.. KARMA.

    RSS wishes to break the WILL of Muslim psyche, thru-out India. They have
    succeeded in that endeavor in Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh. The cowards do not go
    on world-conquests. Like a wife-beater, they want to crush Indian Muslims within
    Indian borders..

    Sadism in the name of symbolism/religion : That is RSS

    By the by, Gandhi loved RSS. Keshav Baliram Hegdewar (Daktar Saheb) was a
    member of the Congress ! So was Madan Mohan Malaviya ! Later on., Hegdewar estd.
    RSS. Malviya’s parent organisation was HMS., but he was ALSO the President of
    the Congress ! (A woman has 2 husbands at any given time, waali baat hai.. This
    is surpassing the Pure Devadasi Tradition where a Devadasi has only ONE patron
    at a time !).

    Hegdewar got out of hand. RSS was Gandhi’s Pvt. Army. to be used inisde
    India., just in case of …………………….

    RSS was given the job of Policing Indian streets, during the 1965 war
    w/Pakishtan, in India

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  • balaji

    in pakistan there are nearly unregistered 10 lakh fully trained militants and 50 lakh untrained militants which are brainwashed to fight and die against india and their master minds continuously working out for various differet perfect plans to assolt india……

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  • balaji

    imp note : indian army, government authorities, people should count this informaion :–
    in pakistan there are nearly unregistered 10 lakh fully trained militants and 50 lakh untrained militants which are brainwashed to fight and die against india and their master minds continuously working out for various differet perfect plans to assolt india……

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  • balaji

    non-functioning of any nation :–
    less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of any nation………..

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  • balaji

    note more important aspects also :—- less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of any nation………..

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  • balaji

    non — functioning of defence system of any nation :—-
    less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of defence system any nation………..

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  • balaji

    non — functioning of defence system and other systems of any nation :—-

    less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of defence system any nation………..

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  • balaji

    non — functioning of defence system and other systems of any nation :———

    less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of defence system any nation………..

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  • balaji

    non — functioning of defence system and other systems of any nation :————–

    less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of defence system any nation………..

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  • balaji

    non — functioning of defence system and other systems of any nation :——————-

    less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of defence system any nation………..

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  • balaji

    non — functioning of defence system and other systems of any nation :—-

    less production of all types of goods leads to less export and lower quality education or no education leads to less IT export and lessen technical development, which all combines finally to affect income of country then leads to bad economical health and so meaning is bad economical health is main reason behind non-functioning of defence system any nation………………………..

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  • Sam

    Your assessment is mostly correct. I just disagree with your your last statement.

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  • Sumit Bose

    Engrich mian, did you even bother to read what i opined on this Muslim’s recurring one sided spin on the Israeli occupation of Palestine? I made no mention of NM or any Hindu Gods.
    It was just a stark contrast with the Bengalis, Punjabis and Sindhis who were dispossessed, just as the Arabs from the current Palestinian lands, at around the same time, and just look at what, with a constructive mind-set, they have achieved as a community! They are all so productive inspite of having to escape in most tragic circumstances.

    i am very aware of you, Indian pseudo-arabs, memorizing your scriptures without even a farthing’s comprehension of Arabic, but to sleep walk as a somnambulist in English takes the cake and the bakery!
    Mian, get a life with some capacity to reflect independently and do not shame the institutions where you obtained your literacy from.

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    engrich Reply:

    i will awnser ur idiocy tommorow.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @ Engrich Mian, why tomorrow, is the brain shop is closed today?

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    engrich Reply:

    i have someother fools like u.wait.keep grease and vaseline ready.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Engrich Mian, Thanks for advertising your preference of the 23 pre-puberty boys over 72 virgins!.What would your preference be for the sexes of the 80,000 servants, please?

    ehgrich Reply:

    KRISHNA HAD 16003 WIFES,as per rajneesh 15003 were kidnapped and
    married.brhmns were helping the kidnapping and used to convince their
    husbands that if u will give their wives to bhagwan krishna ,u will go
    heaven or will suffer in neven 7 janms.
    apart from so many wives and
    concubines he used to fk his neighbours wife called radha.this immoral
    act is celeberated by u people.brhmn makes good money out of this.so i
    pray,

    Urvashi – the daughter of Lord Vishnu – is a pro. Vashitha is the
    son of this pro. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded
    person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)

    ? When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he
    enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a
    need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)

    ? It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu
    and Shiva were themselves the victims of l**t, it is a sin to consider
    them as Gods. (page 39)

    ? When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are
    consumed by l**t and anger, how can they liberate others. Their
    projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).

    ? When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so.
    How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it
    possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be
    gods? (page 39)

    ? God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are
    worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit
    ‘Vyabichari’ relationships. (Page 39).

    so u know how fool u people are.young cpm cdres ********** on durga picture.tell me how she became goddess.from shanghai one kayasth brought her picture in 18th century and u idiots started worshipping her.what she can do to you.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @EngrichMIAN, you have totally lost the plot! This Zia Mian has put out a “poem” on the “sufferings” of the Palestinians. I responded to his being “blind” to Hindus who suffered as much or much more at around the same year and had to escape from Islamic Republic of Pakistan. The Kashmiri Hindus had to suffer the same fate in 1989, this Zia Mian has never bothered to write about their pain and angst, and as a bi-monthly feature brings up Palestine regularly.

    If the stark contrast to the determination and mind-set of the Hindus vis-a-vis that of the muslims, who have chosen to survive on hand-outs and abstain from education, reside on the fringes of their dispossessed land and live only to disrupt peace by becoming martyrs and jihadis, inflicting more misery and suffering on themselves.

    The Hindus ( Bengalis, Punjabis, Sindhis and now Kashmiris) have moved on and restarted life with education, humility and forbearance. This Muslim has never registered on his radar this stark contrast, but just remains in the “mataam” mode, blinded by the torpor of Islamic supremacy.
    As if, not to be outdone by this ZiaMian, you are on a rant on a totally unrelated topic. Mian, by shouting that the other person is ugly, does the hide the fact that you have no nose! (and brains, too)

    BSS Reply:

    LMAO! Grease sounds better for this fool. Vaseline would not be worth it!

    BSS Reply:

    Woops I guess he was at the madarsa with me! Poor fellow!

    BSS Reply:

    “sleep walk as a somnambulist” Only a bong could have done this! LMAO. Get an education dude!

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @BSS Mian, get an english dictionary and try to learn some new words/concepts for self-improvement, that would be much more constructive than being an “internet jihadi”… that is no different from the typical jihadi-nutcase; honours after a complete “madrassa brainscrub”..

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  • Dr.Raj

    Yes, they carry weapons to the brim, but you tend to forget that they also have two hands blessing the devotes. And those two hands are what make Hindus humble and followers of non violence, but it also tells that if we take to violence, we create history.
    And the less we discuss about your god the better, the whole world knows about it, and when some one points it out to you, you guys cannot take it, as they say “truth hurts”.

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    engrich Reply:

    that is why india had 1200 anti-muslim riots after partition.from jabalpur to ahmadabad shows ur humblenes.for 3000 years of vedic rule 98%of indians were allowed to go to school.can u name one university college hospital or library opened by u.budhhdist were not hindus.dont take their achievement in your account.

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  • Faulitics

    This blind and irrational support for “Palestinian” Arabs. Another sign of arabization. Religious network has been used to inform the “believers” about which side to take in political fights over land even though it may have nothing to do with the believers geographical location , local culture or other relevant circumstances. A thoroughly politicized religion. Not sure where religious beliefs end and politics begins. It’s all a mishmash.

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  • BSS

    So you’ve now come here to display your rank ignorance! Nice!!

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @BSS, peddlers of darkness run scared of illumination! I dont know in which millennium you have arisen from, to presume that your “madrassa brainscrub” is the only education worth having!

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    BSS Reply:

    I KNOW that my madarsa brainscrub is the only education worth having. I am especially convinced after picking your lies apart in the other thread. You were fumbling without anything to answer back! Learn something at your RSS shakha. Don’t they teach you anything apart from bomb making? :P

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Bomb making and becoming martyrs as ‘human bombs: are all the hall-marks of the madrassa brainscrub.Your ’secular” education is a squandered resource, it would have enriched the life of one motivated to improve oneself or society, but with that resource wasted by you , it will only be put to the use of pseudo- arabs and anti-nationalists. Besides, I have never advocated anything in favour of the RSS, RSS are not the only people in the country firm about making our Bharat stronger and better.

  • Sumit Bose

    Teesta, Your “selective outrage” is disgusting. For all your activism for justice, One never gets to hear anything done by you for the over 350 Hindus who dies in the same post-Godhra riots. We have no news of how many women were raped how many houses and businesses burnt. Hindus are not taking our pseudo-secularists on “tours” to exhibit their wounds as beggars. Hindus who had to escape from newly created Islamic republic of Pakistan, came quietly and went about with the serious business of rebuilding their lives, not living in the fringes of the newly created Islamic republic of Pakistan to become human bombs to attain martyrdom and get “married” to 72 virgins.

    As there has been no Arab or English-media sponsorship of Hindu “suffering” during the post-Godhra riots, there has been a total ‘black-out” of the rape and deaths of Hindus. Not one main-stream news source published any report or article that brought to the public domain the killings, rapes and vandalism on Hindus. you have proved your blatant partisanship by not bring to justice a single killer of the many Hindus who died or was raped then

    There have been thousands of violent incidents in post-partition India and almost all are “erupt” as people come out of Friday congregations. We “coward” Hindus have learnt to take the brunt of these vandals, till the police “receive” orders to restore law and order and this always suspiciously, coincides when Hindus have banded together to defend and retaliate.

    If NM has backers in USA , why does that get your “goat”? Al-Qaida, Osama Bin Laden, Hafeez Said, Owaisis, all have their backers for their agendas. NM’s agenda is development and ones geared to that will back him for his track record, period.

    While rapes in Manipur seem to be genuine and does need to be addressed, rapes in Kashmir are total fabrications, inquiries after inquires have not been able to match the fantastic claims of the islamic jihadis. I recall with bemused wonder, a telecast of one grieving father of a “stone-thrower” , killed by police bullets, saying that his son was not doing anything, he had only gone to get some milk! This is wonderful as Mohammad Atta’s father ( the main leader of the 9/11 gang) screaming vociferously on CNN a day after, that his son was alive and he had spoken to his son just 4 hours ago, swearing obscenities on USA. This is in no way any effort to “trivialize” the personal grief each of these fathers had to contend with, but to invert the personal grief into a political move is reprehensible and must not be tolerated or encouraged, and that is precisely what you have been at for years!

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    engrich Reply:

    u are bloody liar.all ur argument are bullshit bunch of lies and untruth.dont require any awnser.

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    vanchoo Reply:

    u are bose means kayasth.kayasths are illegimate sons of brhmn.ur mothers were raped brhns.u have slave blood write non sense for money.

    ur forefathers were boot polishers and a$$ lickers of british empire.

    u and ur bitish masters converted sonar bangla to bhootbanla.still u are showing ur ******* to them for few dollars.

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  • Anonymous

    This Zia guy has all the attributes of to-be-terrorist. No wonder he was refused entry in US.

    Shame on HT for employing a Jihadi as journalist.

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  • engrich

    http://www.opinion-maker.org/2013/01/why-the-palestinian-diaspora/

    good article by allen hart.read and take knowledge.u bengalee are myopic self centred highly rascist community.

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  • peace

    Such a nice piece of literature. Beautiful poem. Surprised to see the comments section, no wonder how intolerant indians are!! Hindu or muslim killing innocent civilians is an inhumane act!

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    engrich Reply:

    few of them like idiot bose is paid.otherwise indians are tolerant.but there are hindu zoinist like christian zoinists.they are brhmnst.they are expert in lying moulding the facts.they follow their old scripture which is as follows,

    Brahmin punishment to shudras
    Christening:
    Good and auspicious names should be given to the Brahmins only.
    Kshatriyas should be given names connoting braveness and valour.
    Vaisyas’s name should be based on articles.

    Sudras alone should be given names meaning disgrace and
    degradation. Further the word “Dasan” should be the suffix for all the
    sudra names. (Chap.2, S.31 and 32).

    A Brahmin’s “Poonul” (thread) should be made of cotton. Khatriyas
    Poonul should be made 3 of janappa threads. Vaisyas Poonul should be
    made of goat’s hair. (Chap. 2.S.44).

    Pigs & sudras: Any eatable article becomes polluted and unfit for consumption when:

    (1) A pig dashes against, (2) hens and **** fly over, (3) when a dog looks at, (4) when a sudra touches. (Chap.3.S.241).

    Any one, who offers anything eatable to a sudra after the ceremony
    will go to hell. Such a fool will be punished there. He will have to
    live there upside down. (Chap.3.S.249).

    If the Brahmins happen to eat anything that has been tasted or
    touched by a sudra, that Brahmin should have intercourse with his wife
    that night and the dead will live in the motion of the wife for a month
    (Chap.3.S.250).

    There are seven varieties of sudras:

    (1) He who retreats in a war. (2) A prisoner in a war. (3) One who
    serves a Brahmin out of devotion. (4) Son of a prostitute. (5) One who
    is purchased. (6) One who is adopted. (7) One who is a traditional
    worker. (Chap.8.S.415).

    Duties of the sudra: A sudra worships a Brahmin either for
    salvation or for his livelihood. It will be a good thing for him if he
    calls all others inferior to Brahmins. (Chap.10.S.122).

    As the Kshatriyas have failed to perform rituals and as they
    neglected to worship the Brahmins, they are becoming sudras
    (Chap.10.S.43).

    In any congregation, the Brahmin alone should eat first. If there
    is balance of food, that alone should be given to others. New clothes
    should be worn by Brahmins only and when they become old and torn they
    should be given to others. A sudra is entitled to receive only these.
    (Chap.8.S.125)

    It is the duty of the king to order the sudra to serve the
    Brahmins. If the sudra refuses he should be punished and forced.
    (Chap.10.S.235).

    A Brahmin could extract work from the sudra paying or without
    paying. Brahma has created the sudra only to work for the Brahmins.
    (Chap.8.S.413).

    It is the main duty of the sudra to serve the other communities
    without jealousy. For his service he may get wages. (Chap.1.S.91).

    Exploitation: The wealth of the sudra who does not perform yagna is
    to be deemed as the property of the Asuras. So his wealth could be
    plundered.. (Chap.7.S.248).

    The wealth of the sudra could be forcibly plundered. No consent is needed. There need not be any hesitation. (Chap.11.S.13).

    Even if a sudra is in a position to earn, he should not earn
    anything more than what is needed to his family. If any sudra does so,
    he may go against the Brahmins and be tortured. (Chap.10.S.126).

    Punishment to sudras: If a sudra talks ill of a Brahmin his tongue should be cut off. (Chap.8.S.270).

    If a sudra pronounces the name of a Brahmin or talks of his caste
    or accuses him, an iron rod ten inches long should be heated red-hot and
    thrust into the mouth of the sudra. (Chap.8.S.271).

    If the sudra dictates the Brahmin to do a particular thing, boiled
    oil should be poured into the mouth and ears of the sudra.
    (Chap.8.S.272).

    If the sudra hits at Brahmin’s hair beard, legs, neck, penis, his hands must be cut off. (Chap.8.S.283).

    If the sudra sits in a seat along with a Brahmin, his hips should
    be scorched or he should be driven away from the town. (Chap.8.s.281).

    like european zoinist they most blood thirsty peopl of world..through hate they make money and pauperize indians.we are 137 in living standards.while singapore is 6th.it is because of them 70%on indians eat once in 2 days.

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  • peace

    I love brother Zia’s columns. It seems he has in-depth knowledge of Islam. I feel sorry for all those ignorants who judge this peaceful religion through the eyes of media. These ignorants see talibans as representatives of islam. My request kindly read about the practices and teachings of last prophet(pbuh) or atleast have a look at his last sermon. Its a masterpiece.

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  • peace

    Also, Talibans are just a bunch of people who have no knowledge of islam either!!

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    engrich Reply:

    the hindu fascist are 10 times more voilent than talibans.talibans are fighting against americans.they are robbing and killing their own people and country.

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  • peace

    “….O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and comitted helpers….
    Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your
    deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness
    after I am gone…
    Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that
    you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon
    your deeds…
    O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR’AN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray. All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE.”
    -Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @peace thanks for your copy/paste. Did you know that there are 624 su-ras that specifically command the faithful to inflict violence on kuffurs. There are certainly a few su-ras and H@dhiths that do advocate tolerance, but rounding up on just a ***-bit of a fragment and ignoring a whole mountains of exhortations of doing exactly the opposite, is stupidity of the highest order.

    If i went on to copy/paste those, this page would run into voloumes; but please go to Ali Sina’s website faithfreedom dot org and get a full read of it all. He has authoritatively and without any spin/deception translated from the Arabic and Bukhari’s collection. M.A. Khan has translated from the authentic chronicles of each of those scoundrels who almost vaporized India, right from Mohmad of Ghori , through to the Slave Dynasty butchers , Babur ( he kept his won records:Baburnamah), right down to Tipu Sultan, how these bands of brigands/rulers brutalized and terroized Indians as an article of faith

    Disowning this and that sect is no defense from a terribly brutal terror-manual. Your faith is known by its actions and actions are far more eloquent than words can ever be. besides you are in a state of total amnesia as you do not even know that all these “jihadis” are actively following the example of just one historical man!

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    engrich Reply:

    right from Mohmad of Ghori , through to the Slave Dynasty butchers ,
    Babur ( he kept his won records:Baburnamah), right down to Tipu Sultan,
    how these bands of brigands/rulers brutalized and terroized Indians as
    an article of faith

    HINDU IS ONLY RELIGION WHERE MAN IS BORN UNEQUAL.

    GHORI GHAZNI AND BABUR BROUGHT THE LIGHT OF JUSTICE AND EQUALITY IN INDIA.

    YOU VEDICS NEVER ALLOWED ANY MOOLNIVASI TO GO TO SCHOOL.U NEVER OPENED ANY SCHOOL LIBRARY HOSPITAL

    UNIVERSITY.

    U VEDICS KEPTINDIA jahil FOR 3000 YEARS AND FOOLED AND ROBBED THEM BY SELLING 33 CRORES DEVTAS TO THEM.

    U ARE FASCIST APARTHEID BY NATURE AND ACTION.lie is your staple food while hate is a duty.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @EngrichMian, you keep tom-tomminmg this same drivel as a parrot for long. “lower classes were denied education”. Wrong! Education was common and widespread in ancient India, the Buddhists were Indians and they followed the Hindu traditions and continued Hindu methods of education. They were not pseudo-arabs or pseudo-romans.

    If education was denied to 99% of the population in ancient India, how can you explain a bandit/hunter named Ratnakar from the woods become the sage Valmiki and write out the Ramayan in chaste Sanskrit?

    This is just one example.Kalidas was another, and tehre a re so many many more; but are you ever going to absorb, no, you just need to assuage your inferiority complex of being born in a terribly brutal and debased belief system; as I mentioned earlier truth is something you have no stomach for, that is the defining characteristic of an Islamic-nuthead!

    engrich Reply:

    budhdhism is nemesis of hinduism.

    give me name of one library or school built by vedics which was open to all indians.

    peace Reply:

    Brother Bose, what do u say about mass hysteria during durga puja (idol worshipping… making idols from hands given to u by allah the almighty ) and dancing to the loud tunes of drum beats. And finally trashing the idols in river. What a waste of time, energy, natural and human resources!! I haven’t touched the topic of pollution yet.

    Anyway, I m still passing a smile to you for i’ll get reward for it.
    It is our Historical messenger’s sunnah(practice) to just pass a smile to someone as sadaqah(charity).

    Brother save your skin for the day of judgement. Allah likes those who are of good conduct. And the historical messenger has taught
    ‘the best among you are the ones who are of good morals’ and ‘the best among you are the ones who are good their families’…

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @peace, i just do not revel in the “shifting goalposts” that you Islamic-nutheads always resort to. This blog page is supposedly on the plight of dispossessed people and being a Mian, our ZiaMian is blinkered only to do “maatam” for the Arabs. But you are in Indian convert, it is a pity having resided in the Indian body,all your life, you have been so very successful in insulating your intellect and whatever you see, hear or do is strictly blinkered by the Islamic skull-cap that rests on your brains, not skull. you have not viewed dispassionately why the Hindus get into a celebratory frenzy each year.

    According to tradition, Goddess Durga was married to Lord Shiva, who resided in the celestial abode, she returns to earth ( her parental home during those 10 days each year, also linked with Lord Ram’s prayers to Ma Durga, at the outset of the battle with Ravan’s army)

    It also coincides with the time after the kharif harvest, all rural families have a fresh infusion of funds and this occasion is used to celebrate joy and life. Talents of different sections of society are pooled together to make images of Ma Durga. The prevailing mood is one of celebration, joy and exchange; a brief interlude before all get back to the grind of working for the next growing season.

    Once the celebratory days are past, the idol is symbolically and with honour sent back to the celestial abode of her husband, Lord Shiva, by the act of immersing in water. This seems more aesthetic than burning or smashing the idol created.

    I do understand how difficult is is for you to comprehend that the hands should be used to make and dress up idols, play music and beat drums etc, but you have to understand that the arms and hands are not to be used only for caravan-raiding, piercing hot metal in captive’s eyes, chopping fingers or necks of prisoners, slitting the neck of a mother breast-feeding her infant etc etc.

    Celebrations are in order not only to mark a new marriage or for slave-capturing. To you these latter examples are just what are meant to be done with your arms and hands.

    I am passing no judgement on the elevated state of consciousness you dwell in, You have never even wondered what tragedy made some ancestor of yours to kiss the feet of marauding invaders and become a pseudo-arab. You probably delude yourself in believing you are an appendage of the Quraish tribe or Persian or Turko-Asian ancestry.

    Many thanks for cautioning me of the day of judgement and about Allah. If you are referring to the same Allah that “spoke” to your “most exalted human ever” that the earth is laid out as a carpet and the mountains are placed to hold (the earth ) firm, or that the sun settles each evening under the throne of that Almighty, only to begin its journey on command from Allah…. (i can go on and on and on)…. then, i have to dismiss your “threats” as patently hollow and mischievous.

    Any entity/person that demands respect on basis of ignorance and threats is no different from a street-side gangster or hoodlum.

  • Aaloke

    Dear Sumit Bose,

    Very good and articulate comments and replies. But who are you engaging? These creatures are Islamic zombies. They have no independent brain . You will never be able to make them see light even after so much articulation. However I request you to continue writing as it is read by many other people who have brains to understand.

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  • rich

    Quran is a divine book. The whole world knows that everything in there is 100% scientifically evident.

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    J P Kalra Reply:

    @rich, get lost, you are fit to be only in Zakir Naik’s spin zone.

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  • nohup

    article has no focus and is self-contradictory as previous commenter pointed out

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  • achaean

    The source of the problem is the brittle nature of the French establishment. They basically despise everyone but are incapable of understanding that they lack humility and a relaxed openness to new ideas, new projects. A foreigner will have a hard time in France, not because of the people but because of the establishment, the administration, the bureaucracy and the laws. They say they are the home of the Rights of man but it is a joke. Look at the prisons and the way the bureaucracy treats people. It is clear that the French system is hitting the buffers, but they, Hollande included, seem incapable of seeing it. Over 50% of people who work, work for the state. They have no choice. It is only a matter if time before the Germans and others turn their backs, and then France will be obliged to reappraise its strong points – believe me there are some, but they are cloaked by this hopelessly regulatory political and legal structure in which the state puts its nose into everything. You can’t even really trust French journalists because they are subsidized by the state too. Culturally it’s a desert, centralized and monopolistic. The young are abandoned and are condemned to never creating their own businesses and moral order. Above all, France has lost the idea of the sacred, and is left with egotism, which will not get it through its hard times. Watch French TV: you will hardly see an Arab or a Black, women are stereotypes in the ads, baby voices and worried about perspiration – and men in ads are always the same: white, in their thirties and only want a faster car. Why should anyone want to buy into that? Humour and empathy is deeply lacking.

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  • Dr Mishra

    good question Dr Pankaj

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks.

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    engricn Reply:

    minority like brhmns of india.hiding among hindus but keeping their identity entact.

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  • Anonymous

    AMU was the focal point of Pakistan movement. It should have been closed down in 1947.

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    engrich Reply:

    pakistan was british plan.

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    Akhtar Arif Reply:

    Hey education institution ……….. is not closed. its the symbol of education and root of dessipation of knowledge. Both muslims, hindus and all are imparted education here. The first graduate of AMU was a hindu. Only idiot with biased views will have such opinion.

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  • http://twitter.com/rahulgrover88 CArahulgrover88

    what is the minority status , aint amu has majority muslims students?

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  • kanishka

    Here is the standard response to all your rantings:

    “We would have listened to your sob-stories if Muslims were facing
    problems only in India. But your folks seem to be having problems throughout
    the world including in your own Muslim Ummah where the Shias and Sunnis have
    been at each other’s throats for the last 1400 years now! There is not a single point of
    time in the Islamic History when the religion of PEACE was ever at peace either
    with the non-muslims or even with fellow Muslims (from rival sects)! Your
    death-cult has proven to be a thorn in everyone’s rear. Will Aligarh Univ ever work for peace? No Never.

    Ever heard of this
    saying:

    “When in
    minority, blow up the KAFIRS; when in majority, blow up the FAKIRS”
    or

    “When in minority, blow up the infidels; when in majority, blow up each
    other”?”

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    momn doter Reply:

    good one dude. My thoughts exactly

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    Akhtar Arif Reply:

    Muslims are facing problems in iraq…… after fake charges of WMDs and subsequent war…………killing 8 million iraqis by sanctions on essential items and wars of colonisation for oil. Its shameful demoncratic world barking…….. on mind control media as the war in iraq as war of terror but they are creating terrror. Shame on imperialistic alliance craving for OIL and energy dependency killing innocents. Saddam was a ruthless dictator but he was killed to be replaced by puppet regime and divide sectarian division of muslims. Afghanistan had banned OPIUM smuggling in 1996 so by 2001 after false flag 9/11 the supply of illegal opium drugs were not in market so the US attacked them in the name of extremist ideology. About 100,000 people die avoidably from opiate drug-related causes each year. The US Alliance restored the Taliban-destroyed Afghan opium industry from 6% of world market share in 2001 to over 90% today. It can accordingly be estimated that about 0.1 million people per year x 0.9 x 9 years = 0.8 million people have died globally due to US Alliance restoration of the Taliban-destroyed Afghan opium industry, this including about 100,000 Americans and 3,000 Australians. Shame on people following blindly the western news and media without intellectual analysation.

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    Akhtar Arif Reply:

    `Hinduism’, JAWAHARLAL NEHRU said in

    his “THE DISCOVERY OF INDIA” (Page 37):

    “HINDUISM as a faith is vague, amorphous, many sided, all things

    to all men. It is hardly possible to define it, or indeed to say

    definitely whether it is a religion or not, in the usual sense of the

    word. In its present form, and even in the past, it embraces many

    beliefs and practices, from the highest to the lowest, often

    opposed to or contradicting each other.”

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    Akhtar Arif Reply:

    `Hinduism’ is merely a legalised form of slavery to the Brahmin race. It is not a religion, but a cancer and a disease that must be fought at all costs if this world is to survive. The plagues of Nazism and Totalitarianism, which have claimed more than 200 million lives this century alone, have their roots in Brahmanism, the former having been originated by Pandit Manu, and the latter by Pandit Kautilya. The death and destruction, the sheer human misery caused by Huinduism has already exceeded that which would be caused by a full-scale nuclear holocaust. The Ramayana and the Mahabharat are no doubt GREAT stories, but they are also stories that belong to India’s ancient past. We
    cannot scientifically or factually prove the authenticity of these tales, and as such, we cannot accept Hinduism as a religion. Religion is a “man to God” relationship and not a “man to man” relationship. To reach God, treating fellow human beings with love, justice and equal rights is a duty upon the believer. Most religions preach these ideals. Unfortunately Hinduism, which originated from the Brahmins, preaches that to reach your God you should not treat them with justice or give them equal rights. On the other hand Hinduism teaches a man how to cheat and enslave people in the name of “Religion”. With this technique, 5% (Brahmins) of India’s population have control over 95% of its people.

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  • Nirode Mohanty

    That University should be named as Aligarh University. It was created just to have Muslim Identity and to create Pakistan. It is serving the hard core radicals. Indian tax payers money should not support it.No place for communalism please. Ms. Gandhi be a true national, do not buy their votes

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  • Rana

    How about a blog that critiques radicalism in Islam written from the perspective of a free-thinking, liberal muslim. There aren’t too many of the latter and so your blog could be a good starting point for it. Then you are self-reflexive about the flaws within your own religion as you are about the majority’s so called “oppressive” rule.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Zia is not a liberal or a free thinker. He sounds pretty communal to me.

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  • Rahul chodo

    Please this Zeehadi jurnalist Zia always pick and choose the subject which would lies about the Muslim status in India in the light of paid justice Sacchar report. I think Hindu majority India certain pockets Hindus are the most sufferers economically and financially and it has been kept that way because Congress party headed by Sonia Maino is a avid Hindu hater and she spent all the dole out social scheme targeting only the upliftment of the Muslim with Saccahr report which Con party already made it by paying handsome amount to justice scahhar. Now some shoul ask this Zeehadi journalist Mr.Zia to describe the minority status of the Hindus in Paksitan or may be the whole 53 Islamic nation. What the status of the non_Muslim? Hindus? Please tell the truth. If you can’t then majority Hindus have every right to kick your ugly face back to Pakistan. That is the only reason these corrupt Muslim alwsyas prefer Congress in power even at the cost of the present scams and the loot. Because these selfish Muslim knew about their barbaric genocide of the Hindus and they did not want to take any chance in supporting any other party rather than Congress.

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  • momn doter

    You are a muslim, what’s with Sir Sayyed Ahmed Khan and Gandhi.

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  • Faulitics

    Seconding Rajeev’s point, here is one fact about this wonderful place which Zia left out. Maybe he “forgot”. From Wikipedia

    -Before 1939, faculty and students supported an all-India nationalist movement. After 1939, political sentiment shifted toward support for a Muslim separatist movement. Students and faculty mobilised behind Mohammed Ali Jinnah and the Muslim League hence became an epicentre of Pakistan Movement

    So it was a hub of anti India and communal Islamist forces even back in 1947. Zia didn’t say if things changed in 2013 or its still the same.

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    engricn Reply:

    all because of high caste hindu support to british robbers and occupiers.

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  • indian

    shaala shuorer baccha

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  • Debasish

    Why should we have a Aligarh Muslim University or a Banaras Hindu University is a secular nation? Why should we talk about “minority” status for a university in a secular nation? Why can’t we rise above religion? Zia – you were seeking the answer to the question “Am I a Muslim first or an Indian first?”. From your posts, the readers definitely know the answer.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    AMU divided the nation whereas BHU has not. There is the difference. Don’t try to get certificate of secularism from communal muslims.

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    engrich Reply:

    both have divided india and sodiety.pakistan was result of british plan.generally muslims were against it.

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  • PS!

    India is secular only because India has a Hindu majority. In those pockets where Muslims are in majority, we know exactly the kind of ‘tehzeeb’ that is being heaped on non-muslim populations. The same Indian people, if converted to the Muslim faith, will behave like Pakistanis, Bangladeshis etc. Articles 29 & 30 are NOT required in a Hindu country AND, they will be erased in letter & spirit in a Muslim country/ dominated area within India. Look at Kashmir, parts of Kerala, UP, West Bengal, Bihar, Hyderabad and one can realize the truth for oneself.

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    engricn Reply:

    India is secular only because India has a Hindu majority

    hinduism is not religion

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  • Munir

    The fact is that socialism and Marxism did take India towards apocalypse. There are not signs that a fusion of socialism and capitalism will. It is her opinion based on her political and ideological inclination. She does not provide any factual concrete evidence to support her point.

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  • Narendra modi

    This Zeehadi harmajada in disguise Zia haq’s favorite one line from lunatic Arndhati Roy’s prose is her mention of Hindu fanaticism. This is for which Zia , a taleban supporter who never bothered that 2 % Hindus in Paksitan are the story of worst human sufferings of rape, state sponsored terrorism to convert them to Isalm and thier women raped and converted. These does nor affect this Zehadi Harami who is never thought why since partion of Hindu majority India nd Isalmic Paksitan for which Zia’ ancestor voted 86% Muslim voted for Paksitan. Why the majority hindus should tolerate any Musslaman harami like Zia. He should go back to Paksitan liek all the Hindus were kicked out from paksitan to India. It is high time these traitors who are hell bent to destroy Hindu majority India should be identified and taught a lesson. I hope 2014 will bring Mr.Modi as PM and BJP in power and we then re-strat a dialouge for 1) EXCHANGE OF POPULATION WITH PAKISTANI HINDUS AND SIKHS, 2) DEPORTATION OF ALL ILLEGAL BANGLADESHI AND PAKISTANI MUSLIM AND UNIFORM CIVIL CODE.AND LASTLY IDENTIFY A TERROR MO9DULE OF ISLAMIC TERROR AND IT’S SYMPATHISER LIKE ZIA HAQ AND ARUNDHATI ROY.

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  • SURAJ

    Zia and Roy are concerned about rightists but Muslims continue to massacre civilians in bomb blasts all over India. What about decimation of native Pandits from Kashmir? Are rightists or Muslims responsible for that?

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  • THIRD EYE

    Democracy is the most comfortable and convenient vehicle for MUSLIMS to ride on for their DESTINATION of AN I5LAMIC STATE. with SHARIA. In a democracy they can breed like pigs to gain control by sheer numbers.

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  • butter

    arundhati ka paaltu katua.

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  • raj

    ok, the current system is bad. is there any alternative or corrective measures to fix the system, by these liberal lights ? we know what socialism & license raj has made us. what happend to nehurian utopia promised ?

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  • srinivas

    Agree of this ,for the argument,sake what is the option. Do we go to the 24X7 hartal culture ,militant trade unionism that ruined the lifes of millions of indians. Support Naxals in preventing development. Give solutions dont preach ,if we want we can go to a Muth than reading such books

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  • TheJoker

    ya, and Hindus of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir valley, Afghanistan get subsidies for trip to Kaillash Mansarovar.

    Hindus also rule the Karachi film industry like the Khans do in India. Hindu was also captain of Pakistani cricket team for many years.
    Hindus have their own pakistan govt funded Vidyalayas that are famous for teaching the Facist Vedas to Hindu kids and making Hindu Saffron Terrorists out of them,
    Hindus of POK have wiped out Kashmiri Sufi muslims from Kashmir Valley of Pakistan.

    Pakistan is bleeding because of AK 47 Carrying Hindus spreading terror, in that area.

    Hindus also get scholarship and free higher education in Pakistan like muslims of Andhra pradesh and UP get here in India.

    Hindus are always fighting with each other in India-.Brahmins killing thakurs killing Banias killing OBCs Killing SC-STs and vice versa et al.

    While SHIA-SUNNIS, wahaabbi -Sufis, Barelvis-Salafis, AShrafs-Aljafs-Arzals are showering each other WITH LOVE IN PAKISTAN.

    Hindus do terror attacks across pakistan.

    Recently 9 Hindu Saffron terrorists had carried out a terror attack in Karachi by randomly shooting 190 people and destroying 3 hotels and also killing a PARSEE family in Karachi’s Parsee house and the whole operation was being carried out by remote control from Famous international terrorist Praveen Togadia n party….including RAW.

    Hindu Dons rule Karachi’s underworld and film industry, the king of karachi’s underworld is SHri Dawoodesh Ibrahmin, a pundit who carried out the serial blasts of karachi and killed 700 innocent people to retaliate against muslims who had destroyed a Hindu temple in Islamyodhya(holy city of Pakistan and birthplace of Popat MohMAD ( that temple was built by Hindu Invader king Ram by destroying Islam’s most holy mosque in town of Islamyodhya, birthplace of popet MohMAD).

    1200 years of Hindu rule had destroyed lakhs of mosques inside pakistan, and converted/killed millions of innocent non-violent muslims forcibly to Hinduism.

    In 1947, fascist Hindus wiped out Non-violent muslims from India, while population of Hindus has never stopped increasing inside Pakistan since Independence due to overbreeding by Hindus and constant illegal infiltration of Hindu Indians into pakistan through the porous Punjab, Rajasthan Border.

    Even today Hindus inside India are abducting beautiful, young muslim girls and forcibly converting them into Hinduism and marrying them.

    Young Muslim boys are being converted LIVE in TV studios of India.

    Hindus inside India riot regularly against peaceful non-violent muslims, especially after Tuesday prayers in Temples, where the PUROHIT (priest) provokes Hindus to go and attack Muslim Adharmis…..

    this is because

    MUSLIM’s Holy Book Quran teaches Secularism and Love for all religions, while Hindu Holy books teach hatred and Violence against All Non-hindus and asks Hindus to establish RAAM RAJYA all over the world by hook or by crook.

    And all this while selfish corrupt muslim politicians of pakistan continue to Pamper Hindus for Hindu Vote-bank.

    Hindus have also doing terror attacks in NYC(9/11 was done by Hindus with Mossad and CIA help and total plan was hatched by Praveen Togadia), London bombings(british hindus trained in the terror camps of Badrinath, kedarnath in uttarakhand), Madrid bombings, Hindus also kiled Theodore vanGogh because he made an anti-hindu film, the hindus stabbed him to death in broad daylight in AMsterdam, Hindus also plotted to blow up the Danish Newspaper office in Copenhagen; the plot was hatched by Sahvi pragya, becoz the danish newspaper had published cartoons of Lord SHiva, hindus are terrorizing the world from Morocco to Libya to Egypt to Somalia (Al-saffron gang), to Algeria, Mali, Nigeria(Boko Paap Gang), Ethiopia, Kenya, Tanzania, Israel, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, ALbania, Dagestan, Chechnya, Moscow bombings, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang-China, Pakistan, Afghanistan(whole mountain range is called Muslim-Kush=Muslim $LAUGHTER), Pakistan, Bangladesh, kashmir valley(hindus have made 600,000 innocent muslims refugees in their own land), North Kerala, Arakan-burma(hindu rohingyas fighting with Buddhists there), SOuth Thailand, Indonesia(Bali bombing was done by Hindus), SOuth Phillipines(Abu-Saffron Terror Gang) etc…..all over the world Hindus are a menace.

    So u see, Hindus are very bad!! Muslims are very SEcular, Non-violent and SAD.
    Islam Zindabaad, Sanaatan Dharma Murdabaad.

    Note: popet MohMad learned Secularism, NON-VIolence and strict Vegetarianism from the JAINS of Saudi arabia…an extremely fanatically NON-VIOLENT people, who do not engage in Violence even when self defense is necessary….they prefer to die rathar then retaliate. thats why ISLAM is SO peaceful.

    ++_+_++_+_+_+
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEHE HOHO AAHA!

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  • Phati Chuddy

    The blasts in Hyderabad were engineered by the Congress to threaten states ruled by other political parties; they were a threat to them so that thy must fall in line and support NCTC. Resultantly, Mamata Banerjee has agreed; Narender Modi and Jayalalitha would be obliged to agree next. Moreover, Kiran Kumar Reddy is facing internal trouble; his bete noire Jagan too is notorious for exploding such crackers – like father, lke son. and then every blast is an open invitation to the Sangh Parivarist police to arrest and torture educated and well-placed muslim youth, in order to demoralize and demonize them.

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  • Raghavendra

    Mr Zia haq you dont feel MUSLIM fanaticism hurt INDIA? who created PAKISTAN? that was not created by RSS or BJP. you people do all dirty things and blame RSS for all your sins?

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  • serious

    Mushawarat writes to President about murder and threat to
    Mewatis by Mathura Police

    All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat / The Milli Gazette Online

    Published Online: Feb 27, 2013

    New Delhi, 27 February 2013: President of the All
    India Muslim Majlis-e Mushawarat, the umbrella body of India Muslim
    organisations and eminent personalities, Dr Zafarul-Islam Khan wrote today to
    the President of India, Prime Minister, Union Home Minister, chairmen of the
    National Human Rights and National Minorities commissions, U.P. chief minister
    and others about glaring Police lawlessness in Mathura where Mewati Muslims have
    been killed in fake encounters and threatened that they will be killed if they
    ventured into Mathura. AIMMM president took cognisance of a
    report published in yesterday’s Inquilab Urdu daily which is
    translated below.

    The AIMMM president has asked the President and
    other responsible leaders of the Union and U.P. state governments to take action
    against this lawlessness by people in uniform. Following is the full text of the
    letter and a translation of the Inquilab
    report:

    27 February 2013

    Shri Pranab Mukerjee

    Hon’ble President of India

    New Delhi

    Respected Sir,

    I am writing to you with a heavy heart. This is
    not an overstatement in the backdrop of the free-for-all race to kidnap, arrest,
    kill, incarcerate for years without trial, torture in secret safe houses, police
    stations and even inside jails. This rush to persecute and criminalize the
    Muslim community, especially the Muslim youth, has been going on since at least
    2001 when the BJP was in power and has continued unabated under the Congress
    rule at the Centre. Police, Intelligence, Special Cell, ATS, STF and umpteen
    other open and secret agencies are going about their unending persecution game
    as if there is no constitution or law or judiciary in the country. The latest
    blind arrests in Hyderabad and beyond are staring us in our disbelieving eyes at
    this point of time.

    Direct and unprovoked police attack on the Muslim
    community has been widely reported in recent years. Cases of Hashimpura &
    Maliana (22 May 1987), Beemmapalli (17 May 2009), Forbesganj (3 June 2011),
    Moradabad (6 July 2011), Gopalgarh (14 September 2011), Rudrapur (2 October
    2011) and more recently Dhule (6 January 2013) are only some glaring examples
    known to all but apart from lip service, nothing concrete has been done to stop
    and detoxify this menace of an utterly communalized and biased force.

    The immediate provocation that made me write this
    letter is a news item in a respectable Urdu newspaper which shows how our police
    has become an unbridled beast, killing innocents at will and behaving as if it
    is law unto itself. I am afraid this menace will not stop with the Muslim
    community. Instead, a day will come when no one’s life and honour will be safe
    in our country at the hands of these beasts in uniform. I have got this report
    translated in full for your convenience. The same is attached herewith alongwith
    the original Urdu report.

    The S.P. Mathura referred to in the report is
    Pradeep Yadav and Advocate Sher Muhammad referred to in the report may be
    contacted at 09812006792.

    Kindly take whatever action is possible under law
    at your end.

    Yours sincerely,

    Dr Zafarul-Islam Khan

    President

    ALL INDIA MUSLIM
    MAJLIS-E-MUSHAWARAT

    [Umbrella body of the Indian Muslim
    organisations]

    D-250, Abul Fazal Enclave, Jamia Nagar, New
    Delhi-110025 India

    Tel.: 011-26946780 Fax:
    011-26947346

    Email: mushawarat@mushawarat.com Web: http://www.mushawarat.com

    “If anyone of you comes to Mathura, his
    fate will be similar to that of Shabbir”

    By Farzan Qureshi

    New Delhi: “Government has given us the licence
    to kill people. If any Mewati came to Mathura, he too will be killed”.

    Sarpanch Mumtaz Ali of Rethat village of Mewat
    district said this quoting Mathura Police. The background of this warning by
    Mathura Police is that at about 10 p.m. on 20 February, two real brothers, both
    truck drivers living in Rethat village of Mewat district, were driving their
    truck towards Mathura. On their way, they stopped at Chaudhari dhaba
    for taking their dinner. After dinner, the younger brother Shabbir went to
    the toilet. On his return, a police officer stopped him and questioned him. When
    he told his name and the district he came from, the police officer took him
    along and subsequently shot him dead. Police claimed that he was killed in a
    “encounter” while people of his village say that he was killed in a fake
    encounter. Sarpanch Mumtaz Ali accused that on 23 February the Mathura police
    had threatened us in front of all members of the Panchayet that “government has
    given us the licence to kill people and if anyone of you came to Mathura he too
    will meet the same fate as that of Shabbir”. The police officer also said that
    “so far I have killed 16 persons”.

    Mumtaz Ali further said that police did not
    register any FIR even five days after Shabbir’s murder, neither handed over his
    dead body to us nor allowed us to bury his body nor gave us his medical report”.
    He added that (in the absence of these things) on what ground can we file a
    case. He added that villagers are not much educated people and hence police
    keeps frightening and threatening them every now and then. He said that if we
    get his dead body, we would have got post-mortem done and initiate some action.
    He further said that Mewat’s S.P. has told Mathura police not to give Shabbir’s
    dead body to these people, otherwise they will sit on a dharna and
    indulge in disturbances. Mumtaz Ali alleged that when we went to the Mathura
    Police for taking Shabbir’s dead body, policemen told us that the S.P. very much
    hates the people of Mewat, so it is better if you do not meet him. Policemen
    even told us that you people are very lucky that we showed you Shabbir’s dead
    body, otherwise we do not show the dead bodies of persons whom we kill.

    Mumtaz Ali said that Mathura police has so far
    killed five-six youths of Mewat and after killing them they either burn them or
    bury them instead of giving the bodies to anyone. He also revealed that before
    actually murdering Shabbir, one grave was already dug and kept ready in Mathura
    city two days prior to the murder. This proves that police had deliberately
    killed Shabbir in an encounter. Mumtaz said, while describing the conditions in
    Shabbir’s house and village, that there is mourning in his house and his mother,
    wife and two daughters are totally broken down. A wave of fear prevails in the
    village and no one is taking care of us.

    Meanwhile, reacting to the police claim openly
    that government has given them the licence to kill, advocate Sher Muhammad said
    that we are trying to gather proofs and witnesses for filing a case in the High
    Court. He added that this was a fake encounter and even if police has got the
    post-mortem done, it will be according to its own liking. He said that we were
    not allowed to bury Shabbir’s dead body. Instead, the police buried it on its
    own and did not even allow his mother and wife to look at it.

    Inquilab Urdu daily, Delhi, 26 Feb 2013 [Translated from
    Urdu]

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  • Anonymous

    How cleverly Zia has skipped the attacks on Hindus in Bangladesh and attacks on Christian in Pakistan?

    Zia is a closet Islamofascist.

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  • Sumit Bose

    @Rajesh, this worm is a “ghatiyya Taqqiyya” #1. This space about 18 months ago would be choc-o-block with others of his level spewing venom against Hindus (quoting discarded manu’s smirti) and eulogizing with utter lies the “religion of peace”. Mercifully, the “cowardly” Hindus have stepped in and now we have those Zakir Naik “inspired” spin-masters beat a hasty retreat when slapped with translations from the verses and from Bukhari’s collection. Now even the fig-leaf of “context” has been blown away conclusively.
    As Hindu’s had to pay Jizyia during the brutal misrule of the Slave dynasty scoundrels and later from Aurangzeb’s time, there is a very important narrative that this Taqqiyya has skillfully masked, there were huge mass conversions taking place, not just because of the punitive taxation on Hindus, but because Hindus themselves could legally absolve repayment to any person, just on becoming a Muslim and leveling blasphemy charges and the creditor would be lucky to save his skin by “honouring himself by accepting Islam”.
    The only reprieve that Indians got was during the 52 years of Akbar, 22 years of Jahangir and 32 years of Shah Jahan, once Aurangzeb ascended the throne, it was “open season” on Hindus once again.
    So, now that these Indian converts are able to draw benefits from Modi’s formula of 35% of revenue for govt expenditure and 65% for development, the economical gains accrued renders the Indian converts favourably disposed to Modi. The Kashmir situation is so similiar, the “insurgey” had died a natural death by 2008, it was revived by paying “stone throwers” with counterfiet indian currency routed through Nepal.Once the money trail dies out, most people want to live in peace, inspite of the invocations of violence to kuffurs.

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    Mail Me Reply:

    Excellent observation, Sumit.

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    HINDU SAMURAI Reply:

    well said dadabhai! well said! zia is a very p00r quality taqqiya master!! :)

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  • Vinay Dey

    What about Humayun or Akbar.Dirty mind only sees dirty things.Get off your horse and see light.Take India as a nation and not Hindutva as your bapauti.

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  • Anonymous

    I seldom read this columnist. After a long while, I thought give him another chance. My mistake.

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  • kanishka

    Secularism” , “Minority Grievances”, “Minority
    identity” are all issues artificially manufactured by the Congress Party
    and the columnists of H!ndustan T|mes like another Zia Ul Haq.!

    Zia you have communal mind with no morals. You are trying to equate Modi with Aurangzeb. Your Muslim mind would not read the real history what Aurangezeb did to his Hindu subjects and his brothers. He was not an elected head of the state. Period. You are not worried about corruption and misgovernance and law and order situation in Muslim friendly states like UP, Delhi, Assam, Haryana, Andhra and…many other places. You are more worried about change of heart of Madni.

    The real issues that we face are
    CORRUPTION, NO Governance and NO Development !! We must focus on these
    issues during the 2014 elections

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  • josh

    Agreed – it’s muslim columnists like these that perpetuate the muslim’s backwardness.

    The world has accepted Modi’s 2002 Gujarat episode, like Congress’s 1980s Sikh episode, like Muslim’s Partition episode, like the British and Mughal episodes as manifestations of their time and situation and therefore without specific blame and further retribution.

    However, the world is concerned about current behaviour, in India’s case, of behaviour of Pakistan and Muslims in general and the instability and chaos extremists in these communities create.

    In terms of specifics, Modi offers rule of law, equality under that law, and freedom for all pusuits, whether economic or religious. In contrast Congress and its cronies in UPA offers only rape, pillage and murder, of both individuals and of the future of the Indian population collectively.

    There’s always a rejoinder as to what BJP did under its release. Alas, had there been just one more term and India would have been a thriving, vibrant society. In it’s all too short tenure, it laid the foundation for economic resurgence, global political realignment, and the centre stage it now enjoys. Of course, UPA1 and 2 have been doing their best to undo all that: overseeing a chaotic demographic realignment, creating an amoral political and social structure, generating series of scandals that has created a lawless society sees rapes as a lesire activity, minorities that brazenly destroy property when shown a mirror, graft and murder from unrepentant politicians.

    It’s not too late. Modi and BJP needs to be given a chance for 5 years to show he is Ashoka incarnate. India is a democracy and the Congress/Gandhi 60-year experiment must be accepted for the failure it is. Therein lies salvation for this great civilisation, my dear.

    Jai Hind, Jai Bharat.

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  • Sahid Bhagat Singh fan

    This writer, Bur ka du tt, Sun deep Ti wary are kon grass p aid agent to mis inform the general public of India. Just clic k on the name of the writer to see his continuous biased stand. I tried to report them but there is no office for media journalist regulation or registration in India.

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  • Shah

    How stupid? How come Jaziya was discriminatory? Don’t u pay taxes to Indian government? Don’t Muslims pay Zakat tax every year? Muslims of India pay both Income tax as well as Zakat tax today and no one ever complained about it. So please get ur facts right before writing such non sense distorted history. Stop aiding Modi the killer.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Shah one could easily counter you: how fanatically sanctimonious? Today any Muslim convert may or may not pay zakat, hence we dont hear any complaints; sadly, that option was denied to Hindus, they had to pay up, at the cost of confiscation of property or assets, depending upon each case as was determined by the Sultan’s revenue collector.
    Did you know that each of the Slave dynasty scoundrels, right upto Akbar had to pay 1/5th of all tax collected as the “Apostle’s share” to the Khalifate, first at Baghdad and later to the Ottomans.. Emperor Akbar terminated this huge outflow of revenue and rejected Islam, setting up his own religion named “Din-e-Illahi”.
    It was from these records obtained from the Khalifate that Queen Victoria sent the famous letter to Emperor Akbar, which recorded that India generated 23% of the World’s GDP. Sadly, Shah Jahan restarted paying the “Apostle’s share” to the Ottoman Khalifate, and financial bleeding of India restarted.
    Secondly, did you even know that 760 odd Muslims lost their lives, along with 350 odd Hindus in the post-Godhra riots.It is now accepted “normal” to brand that as “Modi’s genocide”, but your slective outrage is disgusting, In the Bhagalpur riots over 2000 Muslims died, when Lallo Prasad Yadav was the RJD supremo, but no one accused him of “genocide”. That is just how fair-minded you are. I can go on and on, but suffice it to say, you are not concerned about law and order and loss of any life, because you just want a trip NM who has been able to convince the most determined skeptics , but not the Jihadi and Pseudo-secular elements, that good governance enhances the quality of life of all, irrespective of one’s religion.

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    Satyavarta Reply:

    Your so long write up did not answer Shah’s short question. Are not Indian muslims paying tax to Indian government and they not complain while paying this, because they know it is required to run the government which in turn will take care of our security, education and lot of administrative needs. Did not the muslim citizens of Nepal pay tax to the lone Hindu state of nepal till few years back? Why are you reducing the number of muslims killed in Gujarat genocide of 2002? And Bhagalpur anti muslim riots happened in 1989 when Congress was ruling at centre as well as Bihar. Please correct your info.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Satyavarta, your mindset is devoid of “satya”. No Muslim is “forced/coerced” to pay Zakat, at the cost of confiscation of property. As mentioned by me above, it was optional, and there has never been in Independent India any government agency that collects Zakat.
    So much for your spin, attempting to cast away the punitive burden Hindus had to bear for nearly 7 centuries the brutality of Muslim invaders. That is the the second most important reason we have so many converts who are yet brain-numb to consider themselves as Pseudo-Arabs living in our midst.
    Many thanks for correcting my mis-information, that makes our beloved late Rajiv Gandhi overseeing not one but two mass-killings and no one ever thought it fit to term him a “mass-murderer”. Your selective vision of ’satya’ is impressive!

  • Deep

    They call you Muslim? Perhaps a nincompoop may be more appropriate.

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  • Prasanth

    This snake called Zia Haq is a classic example of a deceiving islamist- aka a Taqqiya (In Islam it is LEGAL to to lie to spread the word of Alla- such lies are sanctioned as Taqiya). Few months back this Zia said “Popular Front of India” – is a leftist organisation!!! They are in fact a SIMI offshoot based in Kerala. They are notorious for arm chopping of Prof. Joseph in kerala and forcing girls to wear burqas etc. But they know SIMi was banned and now they are calling themselves a left leaning organisation- based on their anti Americanism !! This Zia is providing them propaganda through his islamist column. Another day he said wearing burqa ‘protects’ women!!! This anti national, islamist, sexist bigot should be exposed thoroughly!

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  • Anonymous

    Zia has cleverly skipped the Hyderabad blast, killing of hindus in BD and attacks on christians in Pak.

    What does this tell about Zia?

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    abu ahmed Reply:

    In the next 5 years, it will be proved in the courts of law that some Hindu outfit is responsible for the Hyderabad blast. Till that time, Muslims would have to suffer physical torture, mental harassment from the Hindus. This is a pattern set in motion for almost all blasts occurring in the country.

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    josh Reply:

    yes – if congress stays in power. you will get equality and truth through a BJP administration.

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    HINDU SAMURAI Reply:

    ya, so sad, India is very bad, so u better p h u c k off to pakistan, bangladesh, Kashmir valley, North Kerala, or the rest of the pislamic world..where minorities like Hindus., sikhs, Xians, jews,Parsees, buddhists etc were showered with so much love by puslims that all of them non_muslims have almost become extinct in the pislamic world, especially pakistan, afghanistan, Iran, bangladesh from Morocco to Egypt, from Bosnia to Turkey, from Uzbekistan to Xinjiang(China), from Mali to Tanzania, from Indonesia to brunei to SOuth Phillipines to North Nigeria to North Kenya, and Somalia to Mauritania, from Libya to Burkina Faso, from Sudan to Algeria, from Chechnya to Kosovo to Azarbaijaan, from Sierra Leone to Chad, from Palestine to Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Arabian Peninsula, Kashmir valley, North Kerala, parts of West Bengal, Parts of Western UP, parts of Assam-dhubri district etc…..u see pislam is a religion of piece oops PEACE!!! k2e!!! bhaag yahaan se m a d a r c h 0 d!!!!k2@!!!!

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    abu ahmed Reply:

    Obviously you belong to a mental asylum; try throwing out 35 crore muslim from India now, starting from your father.

    abu ahmed ke abba Reply:

    on yeah!! just wait till we get rid of the SICKULAR HINDU TRAITOR POLITICAL PARTIES in 2014, and then we will see how ur @$$ burns on the hot plate u m 0 d e r p h u c k e r!!!

    abu ahmed ke abba Reply:

    u think Muslims are 35 crore in India??? hahahahaha, u know what will happen to u guys if we 100 crore hindus decide to do to u 16-17 crore muslims the same thing that u k2@s did to the Hindus,sikhs,buddhists of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, North Kerala, Kashmir valley etc??? u wanna see what it feels like if Gujarat’s medicine is administered to u k2@s on a ALL-INDIA scale u k2@ coward descendant of forcibly converted Coward Hindu ancestors????

    HINDU SAMURAI Reply:

    tu aur tera P H U C K B A R U D D I N Chutaisi! dono jaoge arabian sea me bhutnike agar hum hindu apni aukaat pe aagaye to!!! samjhe bhadwe!!??? bhaag yahaan se jhaantudddin!!! jaaa!!! jaake apni jhaanten nochke hazratbaaaaaaaaaaaaaL shrine me rakhwa de jahaan tere P00Pet MoHMAD ki Jhaanton ko rakh ke k2e uski IBAADAT karte hain, M A D A R C H 0 D!!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why only 35 crores..why not 135 crores? You pakistan has only 18 crores muslims…

    Abhi Reply:

    Zia should tell his friends in Bangladesh that attacks on HIndu temples in that country show the magnanimity of Islam and have repercussions in India.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Maybe he sympathizes with them or atleast feels that it is “justified”.

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  • HINDU SAMURAI

    ============================================================——DEATH TO ALL PISLAM & K2@s AND ALL ANTI-MODI SICKULARS——-
    ——————————CURSE BY HINDU SAMURAI——————————–
    HERE’s WHY!!!
    DEATH TO all u k2@s from this side of the gr8 divide,
    ————————————————————————————————-
    1. For all the 200 million hindus/sikhs/buddhists/jains(including brutal torture and killings of SIKH GURUS/their young SONS(ex: Guru Arjun Dev, Guru Tegh Bahadur, Guru Gobind Singh and his young sons) and R A P E and forcibly married/Killed millions of Hindu women/girls) etc non_muslims killed and many more forcibly converted(including ur coward Hindu ancestors) , for all the Lakhs of Temples, Gurudwaras, Buddhist Monasteries destroyed (including the temples of Kashi, Somnath, Ayodhya, Mathura and buddhist monasteries/universities at TAKSHSHILA AND NALANDA by Pislam before British arrived.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    2. For all the 70,000 hindus killed, 100,000 forcibly converted, 20,000 Malayalee Hindu women R a p e d and 100,000 Malayalee Hindus made homeless by k2@s in North Kerala(during Moplah rebellion in 1921).
    ————————————————————————————————-
    3. For all the 7000 Hindus killed in CALCUTTA within 1st 3 days of the Direct Action day started in Calcutta by K2@s on the call of JINNAH, and for all the 100,000 Hindus killed, 70,000 forcibly converted, and 15,000 Hindu women

    r a p e d in NOAKHALI district of EAST BENGAL within a week of anti-hindu genocide done in 1946 by K2@s of Rural East Bengal.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    4. For the 5-10 million non-muslims killed, 2 million forcibly converted by k2@s in sindh, balochistan, khyber, West Punjab, east bengal during Partition in1947. (Ethnic Cleansing of millions of Hindus and Sikhs, R A P E OF around 100,000 HINDU/SIKH Women, and mass-suicide of 10-20,000 HINDU/SIKH WOMEN to escape k2@ mobs in WEST PUNJAB has been compared to the NAZI HOLOCAUST of JEWS by many Scholars).
    ————————————————————————————————-
    5. For all the 150,000 hindus killed in East Bengal(East Pakistan) by u k2@s in 1950 anti-hindu pogrom all across east pakistan, and for 1.5 million Hindus driven out to INDIA as refugees from East Bengal in the same year.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    6. For all the 200,000 Indian soldiers killed by k2@ jawans of Pakistan army during the 4 wars with Pakistan. (Each war started by Pakistan’s unprovoked aggression).
    ————————————————————————————————-
    7. For all the 2 million hindus killed, 1 million forcibly converted, 200,000 hindu women r a p e d, and 2.4 million Hindu refugees sent to India by k2@s during Bangladesh war in East Bengal, in 1971. (COMPARED TO THE NAZI HOLOCAUST OF JEWS BY MANY SCHOLARS).
    ————————————————————————————————-
    8. For all the 500,000 kashmiri hindus made refugees in their own country, 6000 of them killed after brutal torture in Kashmir valley by u k2@s in 1989. The Indian army Went to Kashmir valley only after the ethnic-cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus had been completed by Your K2@ brothers.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    9. For all the 50,000 Hindus killed, 100,000 driven to India, by k2@s, from Bangladesh in 1993-1994 when Begum Khaleda Zia’s govt came to power in Dhaka.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    10. For the 100,000 Indian soldiers killed in Kashmir valley since 1989(Indian army entered kashmir valley after the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus had been completed successfully by u k2@s) by k2@ terrorists.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    11. For all the 150,000 innocent Indians(98% of them non_muslims) killed by u k2@ terrorists all over India in bomb blasts, fidayeen attacks, mass-shootings, grenade attacks, etc since 1989.
    ============================================================
    12. For all the thousands of hindus killed inside India by u k2@s in Riots since Independence (including the riots which u k2@s did all across India to mourn the demolition of a mosque built by a Uzbek moghul invader Babur after he destroyed the Ram temple in Ayodhya 600 years ago).
    ————————————————————————————————-
    13. For all the mayhem u caused inside India especially downtown mumbai,-desecration of amar jawan jyoti, molestation of police women and women, burning of shops, media vans, etc, and In downtown Lucknow-demolition of Gautam Buddha statues in broad daylight inside Lucknow’s parks(unreported by sickular media), molestation of hindu women on roads in broad daylight, burning of police vehicles and shops etc, just to protest against s0-called injustice to burma’s rohingya muslims (those started when rohingya muslim illegal immigrants(from Chittagong district of Bangladesh) settled in Arakan province of Burma, gang r a p e d and killed 2 innocent buddhist NUNS).
    ============================================================
    14. For all the innocent Hindus killed in western Uttar Pradesh for 6 months in anti-hindu riots in muslim majority areas of Western UP, which u k2@s started
    as soon as sickular SP govt came to power in UP (unreported by sickular media).
    ————————————————————————————————-
    15. For all the innocent 500 hindus killed in Gujarat(ignored by our sickular media) in 2002 by u k2@s(including the 70 innocent Hindus burnt alive inside the coaches of Sabarmati express by u k2@s, which started the riots).
    ————————————————————————————————-
    16. For the 50-60 innocent Hindu villagers killed, 100 missing, 50 hindu women r a p e d, and 1000 Hindu families made homeless after their houses were burnt down by u k2@s, all under the watch of the mute west bengal police of Mamata Begum, in 2 days of anti-hindu violence in NALIAKHALI (not noakhali of bangladesh) area of SOUTH 24 PARGANAS DISTRICT, WEST BENGAL, in February 2013, again unreported by Sickular media.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    17. For all the 250 hindus killed till now all over Bangladesh by YOUR(K2@s) JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI PARTY G00NS since last few weeks, during all the protests by u k2@s against the sentencing of JAMAAT war criminals of 1971 anti-hindu genocide of Bangladesh war of Independence.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    18. For all the Hindus who converted to Pislam in order to escape from the horrific HINDU CASTE SYSTEM injustices, only to find themselves brutally subjected to the similarly horrific Pislamic Caste system of ASHRAF(High caste muslims-Sheikh, Saiyyad, Mughal, Pathan, Maalik, Mirza etc), ALJAF(Lower caste muslims) and ARZAL(so-called Untouchable muslims), SHIA-SUNNI, BARELVI/HANAFI, WAHABBI/DEOBANDI, SUFI, AHMEDIYA, ORIGINAL ARAB MUSLIM and COVERTED MUSLIM divide, and etc etc.
    ============================================================

    ….and the list
    goes on and on and on, and one day “Our Curse, tears, cries, screams for
    justice” (which we haven’t got till now, thanks to Sickular parties of
    India) will wipe u out of India once and for all.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    Yeah, U K2@s and
    SICKULARS can TAKE UR DEMANDs FOR JUSTICE for 600 PUSLIMS KILLED IN GUJARAT TO GOD HIMSELF!! WE DO NOT CARE,
    ————————————————————————————————-
    WE WON’T CARE!! DO U HEAR!!!???

    NOT UNTIL WE NON_MUSLIMS RECEIVE JUSTICE for ALL THE $ H I T

    U K2@s HAVE DONE TO US NON_MUSLIMS listed in this post.

    GET THAT IN YOUR THICKTAQQIYA-ridden/SICKULAR SKULLS( if u got any Brains inside it of course).
    ============================================================
    DEATH TO PISLAM,
    DEATH TO ALL K2@s, DEATH TO PUSLIMS, DEATH TO SICKULARS and LET US ALL IGNORE
    rarer-than-platinum truly secular muslims, because they did not matter in the
    past, they do not matter in the present , and they won’t matter ever in the
    future too.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    DEATH TO PISLAM,
    DEATH TO ALL K2@s, DEATH TO PUSLIMS,..for all the atrocities that they have done to SOuth Asia and its non_muslims(all in the name of ALLAH), and DEATH to
    their Quran/Hadith-the books which contain nothing but utter HATRED and
    VIOLENCE against everything Unislamic(not under the rule of P00Pet Mohmad and his pislam) under he sun.
    ————————————————————————————————-
    and DEATH TO ALL
    THE SICKULARS INCLUDING KHANGRESS WHO ALLOWED U K2@s TO STAY ON IN INDIA EVEN
    AFTER 95 % oF U K2@s(living in Hindu majority areas of undivided India) VOTED IN FAVOUR OF PAKISTAN’s CREATION, and DEATH to ur
    K2@ bros across the border who wiped out Non_muslims from all k2@ majority areas of South Asia, while u k2@s continue to increase your population In India using the method of overbreeding like R A T S and Illegal infiltration form Bangladesh(through west bengal border and NE states borders) and illegal infiltration from Pakistan(through Rajasthan border);;;;
    with the final goal of achieving GAZWA-E-HIND(Conquest of India by Pislam)=making INDIA DAR-UL-ISLAM=abode of Islam (as per the sickular instructions of Your SICKULAR FASCIST BOOKS QURAN/HADITH.).
    ============================================================
    DEATH TO U k2@s!!!
    for being a K2@!! and for being the follower of a PEDOPHILE P00Pet of Arabia,

    ============================================================

    who married and r a p e d a 9 yr old girl-child, when he was 55,
    ————————————————————————————————-
    who married his own daughter-in-law after getting her divorced from his own adopted son,
    ————————————————————————————————-
    who killed the whole families(brothers, uncle, father, husband etc) of 2 young jewish girls(one was 17 yrs old, another below 25) with his own hands,

    r a p e d those girls that very night, and forcibly married them a few days later, when he was more than 55 years old,
    ————————————————————————————————-
    a debauched P00Pet who allowed u k2@s to marry only 4 women at a time, and himself married more than 10 women,
    ============================================================
    a P00Pet who called
    all Non_muslim, Non-Xian, Non-Jew people as IDOLATORS, and yet asked u to Keep
    a P U $ $ Y(VA GI NA) shaped BlackStone(Aswad) inside PI$LAM’s MOST HOLY
    MOSQUE, the MASJID-AL-HARAM in Kaaba, MECCA, and asked you to Ki$$ it, and
    asked u to do NAMAAZ facing that Blackstone containing Mosque, no matter
    wherever on the planet u might be, because he told u that stone was a gift from ALLAH. (as if all other stones on the planet are gifts from SATAN??? hahahaha LOL)
    ————————————————————————————————-
    PS=[Muslims will become majority in India by 2035-2040, and then Non_muslims, where will YOU run?? nepal or bhutan?

    All Sickular Non_muslims keep voting for Sickular parties on issues of Jaat-paat, Biradari, CASTE, economy, Food, Inflation, Infrastructure, Language, Roads, Regionalism, corruption, poverty, ILLITERACY,
    GEnder discrimination,
    and other such very important issues which all sickular parties have been miserably unable to solve for the last 63 years, yeah, keep voting like that and find out, that in 2040, where U WILL RUN TO, as REFUGEES, NEPAL or BHUTAN???

    I HOPE U WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE before the sand of time runs out of your SICKULAR HANDS]
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    NARENDRA MODI ZINDABAAD THE, HAIN AUR RAHENGE!!
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    NARENDRA MODI PM BANKE RAHENGE AUR HUM HINDU UNKO PM BANAKE RAHENGE!!

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    Tum sab k2e ek kaam karo! apni apni jhaanten nochke hazratbaaaaal masjid/dargah (srinagar, Kashmir valley) me jaake rakh aao, jahaan tum P00Pet MohMAD KI JHAANTON ki Ibaadat karte ho. JAI SHRI RAAAAM!!!!

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  • PPrasad

    For a change , why doesn’t Zia focus on Pakistan and request his friends in Pakistan to go a bit easy on their minorities – the Shias, Ahmediyas, Christians and Hindus.
    The recent bomb blasts in Shia places of worship, localities were barbaric and absolutely blood curdling, to say the least.
    There are reports of an entire Christian neighbourhood being burnt down in Lahore, mercifully no one was killed.
    Hindus – especially girls- have to live under the threat of Kidnapping, Forced Conversions etc.

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  • SECULAR VERSES OF QURAN/HADITH

    THIS ZIA IS A TAQQIYA MASTER!!
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    TAQQIYA=acting, lying, deception, denial, false friendship, crying all the time against s0-called injustice to peaceful muslims, human rights, sickularism blah blah etc to F00L the Non_muslim to HIDE the REAL instructions of the fascist Books Quran/Hadith and to HIDE the real intensions of Puslims, this method of deception is only employed in case muslims are living in Non_muslim majority lands. there are many verses in the Quran/Hadith which explain ,how and when to do taqqiya, to muslims…following are some of those verses; -
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    Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya)

    لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْ
    دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ
    إِلَّا أَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ
    وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ

    “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends
    in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah
    unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were)
    security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the
    journeying.”
    ============================================================Bukhari (50:369) – Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad’s insistence. The men who voBukhari (50:369) – Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad’s insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka’b’s trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.lunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka’b’s trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.
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    Qur’an (16:106) – Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.
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    Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”
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    Qur’an (9:3) – “…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
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    Qur’an (40:28) – A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.
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    Qur’an (2:225) – “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts” The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.
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    Qur’an (66:2) – “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths”
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    Know One thing, INDIA will remain a Secular nation only till the time We Hindus/XIans/Sikhs/Jains/Buddhists/Atheists and other non_muslims remain in majority in India, becoz all of us non_muslims do not have the habit of killing people in the name of God. XIanity has gone through a long, painful but much needed reform period which brought Europe out of the dark ages, but ISLAM is still stuck in TIME, in Bedouin Fascist culture of 6th century arabia.

    But we shall remain in majority only till 2040, becoz after that time, Muslims will become majority (becoz of rampant illegal immigration of puslims from Bangladesh, and Pakistan, and Breeding-Like-R A T $ indian muslims who are growing at 2.5 times the rate of non_muslims inside India)

    Read the following and open your eyes., these fascist, barbaric verses are what is taught to young muslim boys/girls across the islamic world from early childhood. These verses are from the Quran/Hadith.
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    “The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6
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    “Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51 (Muslims love XIans/Jewslol!!)
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    “He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.” Quran 3:85 (Secular concept)
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    Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”
    Verse 30: “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
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    Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”
    Verse 29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor
    hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger,
    nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book( Jews/Xians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
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    Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding
    will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
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    “Let not believers make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful – he that does this has nothing to hope for from Good – except in self-defense. God admonishes you to fear Him: for to God shall all return.” Quran 3:28 (Taqqiya)
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    Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
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    Chapter 4(An-Nisa: “the women”)
    Verse 56: Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.
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    Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”
    Verse 5: And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush.
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    Chapter 8: Al-Anfal: “The Spoils of War”
    Verse 12: “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
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    Chapter 61: As-Saf: “The Ranks”
    Verse 4: “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way” (Religion of Peace, indeed! ) This is followed by (61:9): “He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.”
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    Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”
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    Bukhari (11:626) – [Muhammad said:] “I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.”
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    “This Book is not to be doubted…. As for the unbelievers, it is the same whether or not you forewarn them; they will not have faith. God has set a seal upon their hearts and ears; their sight is dimmed and grievous punishment awaits them.” Quran 2:1/2:6-2:10
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    “God’s curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God’s own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God’s most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.” Quran 2:89-2:90
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    “Lord…Give us victory over the unbelievers.” Quran 2:286
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    “Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.” Quran 9:73
    =========================================================”Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123
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    “Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers(Non_muslims). Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron.
    “Whenever, in their anguish, they(Non_muslims) try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: ‘Taste the torment of the Conflagration!’” Quran 22:19-20
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    “Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29 (Secular concept)
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    “Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise.” Quran 4:56 (peaceful verse)
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    “Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy…” Quran 8:59-60
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    “Believers, know that the idolaters [non-Muslims] are unclean. Let them not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year is ended.” Quran 9:28
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    Beautiful/Peaceful Islam Holy Book’s verses on WOMEN=following=
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    “They ask you about menstruation. Say: ‘It is an indisposition. Keep aloof from women during their menstrual periods and do not approach them until they are clean again; when they are clean, have intercourse with them whence God enjoined you….’” Quran 2:222
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    “Women are your fields: go, then, into your fields whence you please.” Quran 2:223
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    “Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.” Quran 4:34
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    “A male shall inherit twice as much as a female.” Quran 4:11
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    “[Forbidden to you are] married women, except those whom you own as slaves.” Quran 4:24 (WOW!!!)
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    “Rewards in Paradise” VERSES are following=
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    “The righteous shall return to a blessed retreat: the gardens of Eden, whose gates shall open wide to receive them. Reclining there with bashful virgins for companions, they will call for abundant fruit and drink.” Quran 38:51-2 (WOW!!!)
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    “God has purchased from the faithful their lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for the cause of God, they will slay, and be slain. Such is the true promise which He has made them in the Torah, the Gospel and the Koran….” Quran 9:111
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    “As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amid gardens and fountains, arrayed in rick silks and fine brocade. Even thus; and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris.” Quran 44:51-54 (WOW!!!!)
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    “On that day [the unbelievers] shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell . . . But in fair gardens the righteous shall dwell in bliss, rejoicing in what their Lord will give them. Their Lord will shield them from the scourge of Hell. He will say: Eat and drink to your hearts content. This is the reward of your labours. (WOW!!!!)
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    “They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris [virgin girls] We shall wed them. . . . Fruit We shall give them, and such meats as they desire. They will pass from hand to hand a cup inspiring no idle talk, no sinful urge; and there shall wait on them(for Muslim Women Martyrs) young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls.” Quran 52:13-24
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    “Reclining there upon soft couches, they shall feel neither the scorching heat nor the biting cold. Trees will spread their shade around them, and fruits will hang in clusters over them.
    (WOW!!!)
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    “They shall be served with silver dishes, and beakers as large as goblets; silver goblets which they themselves shall measure: and cups brim-full with ginger-flavoured water from a fount called Salsabil. They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the beholders eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls. When you gave upon that scene, you will behold a kingdom blissful and glorious.” Quran 76:9-20 (WOW)
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    Quotes from the Hadiths or Records of Mohammed’s Deeds and Words=following=
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    “The Prophet…said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us.” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2635
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    “…the Apostle of Allah [said]: He who goes forth in Allah’s path and dies or is killed is a martyr…and will go to Paradise.” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2493 (WOW!!!, so Afzal Guru is in Paradise right now!!!)
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    “The Prophet…said: Our Lord Most High is pleased with a man who fights in the path of Allah…” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2530
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    “The Prophet used to go round (have $ e x u @ L relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.” Sahih Bukhari 7.62.6 (WOW!!!!, Prophet was a SUPERMAN)
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    “The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).” Sahih Bukhari 7.62.88, 7.62.64 (thats So nice!!)
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    “Once Allah’s Apostle went out to [offer the prayer]… Then he passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).’ They asked, ‘Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?’ He said, ‘Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?’ They replied in the affirmative. He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence.’” Sahih Bukhari 1.6.301 (Now, THATS SOME REAL GENDER EQUALITY CONCEPT RIght there!!)
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    NON_MUSLIMS, all the VERSES above are TRUE and Just a TIP-of-the-ICEBERG of all the SECULAR verses of the Quran/Hadith, but actually U have to Know Arabic and understand the “CONTEXTS/TIMES/PLACES”(hahahaha LOL) of those verses in order to appreciate the PEACE & SECULARISM that ISLAM/PROPHET MOHMAD/QURAN/HADITH Preach! becoz
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    The TRUTH IS THAT ISLAM WAS, IS, AND WILL ALWAYS BE
    A “RELIGION OF PIECE oops PEACE & LOVE & SECULARISM”!!! =-=—=-=9283240 029

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  • Rampris

    Dear ZIA HAQ ,

    in case you happen to read my comments you can introspect on my following questions 1) India for the last 66 Years Post INDEPENDENCE except for 6 Years of NDA & 3 Years of JP has been RULED by so called Secular Party/Parties. Why is that the conditions of common Muslims remain so pathetic? worse than other community. Its neither BJP or MODI who has ruled this larger part? 2) even in the last 8 years of UPA rule by the so called Secular Party how much of the social welfare program has reached the poor muslims? Still you want the average poor Muslims to be driven by the DIKTATS of clergy & the liberal middle class muslims by the so called JOURNALIST like you to BELIEVE that BJP or NDA is evil rest all secular party are angels. I think if average Muslims needs uplift themselves socio economically they need to take their own call on whom they think can really help them in improving their living condition rather than follow the Diktats of clergy nor the half baked liberals who just want to pocket their own share of fortune by siding with establishment & PROPAGATE lopsided stories To Put it in your own words “Relying on the so called Secular Party alone would be to fall one sandwich short of a picnic” which most of the Muslims have done & are sleeping hungry

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Zia celebrates killing of Hindus in India, Pak and BD but keeps howling when some muslims terrorists are tackled.

    He is a closet Jihadi.

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    Bystander Reply:

    Liar. Show where Zia celebrates those killings.

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  • Faulitics

    :-) . Zia uses the word “creative” when describing the deobands stance against Pakistan. He uses that term in a negative connotation. So taking a stance against creation of Pakistan is negative in zia’s POV but he still lives in India. He is very transparent. His taqqiya is not “creative” enough. He needs to work on it.

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  • rd

    Author, are you stupid? Man wants to pour money and create jobs, lets facilitate the process of increasing investment by leading industrialists while taking care of environment, land and forest concerns. This reckless game of one-upmanship wont lead us anywhere. Remember, India is not the only country eyeing his capital. Just because we are 1 billion doesnt mean we have a birthright to do whatever we want. Such arrogance and misplaced confidence has led us to 5% growth from 10% a year. Request you to please please to be more thoughtful for our country’s sake.

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    Manish Sharma Reply:

    He can take his money and shove it where the shun does not shine. He has an overgrown idiot who has no regard for policies and law of the land.

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    freedomofspeech Reply:

    As opposed to you being an undergrown idiot having lots of regard for policies and law of land.

    When was the last time you bribed a traffic policeman or some government official.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You truly represent the filth represented by Zia.

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  • geekay

    What Zamindari got to do with this. I don’t see any connection. Do you? You are saying like that as the minister did who wanted Mittal to ring him and plead. For God sake, in stead of apologising and assuring that India will not repeat this kind of behaviour, you are saying – take it or leave it we will remain the same. The fact is arrogance is in not just ministers of the govt, it is in ordinary folks too in India. No wonder, every body thinks nothing of rules. Those Indians who live abroad lose the habit if they ever had of bribing any one for things that should happen normally .In fact the expect the concerned ministry or dept will keep them informed of the progress after they have applied for permission from govt. I do not think this happens in India. When a foreigner whines, it does not bother any one, but when an Indian say the same. It still does not bother any one. Very strange. Is this how yoy or this govt will make India investor friendly. It simply does not matter if any one considers him an Indian or not. Business need profit otherwise it runs in the ground. Look at Air India. Only if govt still wake up to give it in pvt hands.

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    RK Sharma Reply:

    Correct Indians have false ego in everything, just we all should learn to respect other people as human, talk to anybody and they immediately become revengeful in India and after other person to teach a lesson, well no sane person should invest money in India, what is ground reality, corruption, no agreements are enforced because legal system doesn’t work, there is no fear of law and order, you catch anybody and he/she will cry that why only me, because reason is nobody follows law, for example take case of Sanjay Dutt, to some extent he is also right, in country like India he already went to jail for 18 months and spent 20 yrs in tension, paid money to lawyers now this is enough punishment when he is remorseful, what about Delhi gang rape juvenile who will walk in 3 more months, and Chief Justice says he is juvenile, well can this juvenile reformed, has he stolen some bike or snatched chain, that he can be reformed, Indians have too much ego and self pride, for what ?

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  • freedomofspeech

    We need more Mittals and less Haqs, if that happens the world will be a better place.

    Compare the tax revenue, jobs each create the answer is simple.

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    FreedomOfSpeech Reply:

    We need more Haqs and less of Chaddis. Period

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    Mirchi Reply:

    Mirchi lag gayi.

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    FreedomOfSpeech Reply:

    Mirchi to tujhe lagi mere chaddi ;)

  • Sumit Bose

    The blog should be pertinent to “muslim”, though this article is about an industrialist, who started from India and over time able to make a place for himself in the searing world of international business. Though , ostensibly, there is nothing muslim about this article, but the “muslim” mindset cannot be missed.

    The same attitude of grievance mongering, the same attitude of “injured pride” pervades this write-up.

    Mr Mia, please do not denigrate your secular education, Mr Mittal has many reasons not to keep India as his priority, and for good reasons. The Ruling Parties right from the independence has made it a habit to hold back “objections” that they have sanctimoniously created in the name of clean and ethical governance, only on receiving suitcases of raw cash or for money transferred into overseas accounts.

    Why grudge him his Taj Mittal, he has earned it with clean hands, not like our beloved Italian ex-maid who now ranks as the 4th wealthiest politician in the world, not like our Mulayan or Mayawati or Jayalalitha or late Chandrashekar Raddy and son Jagan Reddy, sitting over hundreds/thousands of crores of unaccounted cash when they were never in any trade/business, other than granting permissions.

    Mr Mittal’s investments are his own concern and as he has his financiers and stockholders he is answerable to, and there are many more countries in the world that do not have beggar/bandit politicians that have their hands outstretched sitting over every business proposal. It appears that there is one state in India that does not have that , and that is so because of one CM who has opted not to be a beggar/bandit type of politician and he has reinvented his state machinery, but that person is a “diabolical entity” for this Zia Mian.
    That quintessentially is the crux of this article, that this Mr Mian prefers the beggar/bandit politician over clean governance, and as Mr Mittal wants to steer clear of such types, Mr Mian is aiming his “AK-47″ at him.

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    RK Sharma Reply:

    Correct why to comment on Mittal even if I open a shop won’t i first try to earn money for myself and family without causing damage to society, Mittal has worked for what he has, why to act victim in everything day and night, why should he become to socialist,go to government office and check the attitude of babus, no file moves, may be he is not in mood to hand over few crores to our politicians, that is his choice, but don’t blame him.

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  • Mittal.L

    First of , Mittal does not belong to India.
    Everytime an NRI shines in overseas, India starts a slogan, Indian shine.

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  • Ghost

    You need to study more and yes please try to open a even single shop or please, please , please try to query any of your business needs with concerned government of INDIA offices or department I think you will write Please forgive me for what I have written in this blog. Gentleman Mital is not an Indian citizen and we Indians proudly relate him to India. Many of Indians left and still leaving India and many of business men are try to do business not in india but out side india. I am among many millions who wish to do something and wish to contribute in my society but with great regret no help or info from government. And in a country in which there is feeling what ever you do nothin will happen then every thing in the hands of GOD.

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  • tbr

    j@@**a** article. Socialist filth hanging around in 21st Century. Give me the full form of the abbreviation: Test for Indians— GAFY!!!**@.com

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  • freedomofspeech

    Zia Haq is a prime example of low quality journalism. This author does not understand economics and history and goes on to comment much like a two year old child.

    For example – he is commenting on Britain’s recession hit economy – as if India is doing very well. As a comparison Britain’s per capita GDP is 35000, India is 1500.

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  • Arvind

    Many international agencies and businesses have called India one of the worst places to do business due to burueaucracy and corruption. Mittal is not the first one to say that.

    Why call him anti- India for it? If he is anti- Indian , then what do you think of Kashmiris who keep killing Indian soldiers and even civilians? Or terrorists who regularly explode bombs in Indian cities which UPA blames on Indian Muslim groups?

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  • niraj

    If the delay is for the right reasons’ I would agree with author. However most delays are due to red tape, babugiri, bribe or just political power play. Do you think western countries care less or more for their citizens. Most people would agree that value of life is more in west. How come they happen to clear projects faster

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  • Navin

    Haha!!! writer has no idea how the world works these days…forget the ideal world of communism where no one owns anything. You need investors to create job, grow economy and create value added industry, otherwise you will export cheap iron ore and someone else will create steel and make most of the money.

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  • Sanjay Kumar

    Mr. Zia Haq is absolutely right. No one can be deprived of his land without getting proper compensation as per market rate. Mr. Mittal want cheap land and cheap mines with the help of Government. All MNCs love only those Governments which provide them cheap land and other cheap inputs at the cost of people and resources of their country, for the very purpose they are ready to pay any bribe to anybody. That’s why they are not putting new factories in USA, Europe, Japan and other developed nations. We want development, but do not want to become slave of developed world by exporting them products at the cost of our citizens. We must grow up…

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    PatriotIndian Reply:

    People who want to hold on to land is fine.

    Stop giving them free power, water, fertilizer, seeds, remove minimum support prices. Stop making agriculture income tax free.
    Let them produce on their own without government support which comes from tax revenue on industry.

    Don’t let them access healthcare services supported by taxes generated from industry.

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    Sanjay Kumar Reply:

    Are you ready to give away your house or land for industrial development without proper compensation.. No one can man, grow up.

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  • Mohd Hussain

    What is the connection with him amassing the wealth with his good decisions and management techniques and zamindari system? In my opinion the name of this blog should be changed to a “A cynical perspective”.

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  • Timra

    Does it make sense for an industrialist to put money in a country where he has to give a cut at all levels to push his projects through? The education in social welfare has to be given to our corrupt leaders. They are the ones who ahve created the new zamindari system

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  • Arup

    I have just wasted 5 precious minutes of my life reading this piece of S**T

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    dd Reply:

    Now jump into the Indian Ocean and save the world!

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  • Joe

    What are you smoking? How does this trash get published in a national newspaper, sheesh.

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  • modassar

    Have you or anyone in your family ever even run a corner “Kirana” store in your life?

    Do you have any understanding at all of how economies work?

    They do not work by rhetoric and thumping your chest. They work by taking pragmatic, effective and efficient decisions. None of which applies to India.

    I guess having being brought up in an environment of politics of appeasement, in which you were provided things just because of your political affiliations, that you can not comprehend that Mittal owes India nothing. India needs Mittal, not the other way around.

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  • Indian

    HT head Shobhana Bhartia is congress MP. HT also received illegal congress party fund money to save itself from bankruptcy which was on TV news as example of direct involvement of Rahul and Sonia in corruption.

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    Shiva Prasad Reply:

    Shobana Bhartia is a chamchii of Sonia. She will stand in line for hours to meet Sonia. Then she will show off in Delhi as if she knows Sonia. Then she will hire minority writers with lowest IQ like Zia to write articles that are anti Hindu to mak Sonia and Roul happy. Where are we with real issues. If Mittal does not want to invest in India…stop blaming Mittal. First create an environment of corruption free growth for industrialists to come to India and by writing this article you have shown that you are stupid Zia. Just because you can write does not mean that you know antying about economics. It is not the Mittals of the world who are India’s enemies…it is you Zia who are muslim fundamentalist, Shobana who is a sychopant of the mafia white fascist Sonia’s chamchi, Sonia, Roul, Robert, are the enemies of India. You got it backwards Zia. Lets kick you to Pakistan, kick Sonia to Italy, and kick Shobana to Jail and we got a perfect India ripe for investments.

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  • Ank

    What lousy journalism. This article reads like written by some kid in college or highschool. Just rants and no reasoning…

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  • Anonymous

    Does this blog meet the “MUSLIM” theme?

    Zia should stick to only muslim issues.

    By the way Zamindari system is still working in Pakistan, a land ruled by pious muslims (favorite of Zia).

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  • Anonymous

    The article may or may not be great but most comments are. Cannot believe ppl are attacking Zia in Islamophobic way.
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    pathetic

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  • http://smartkapital.in/ Smartkap

    Not valid arguments. This attitude towards industrialists is the reason for India being shunned by big ticket investors.

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  • Abhi

    “Mittal doesn’t do us a favour – to re-phrase Mahatma Gandhi’s advice to traders — by selling stuff to us;”
    While most countries today are falling over each other to appear investor friendly, we are still stuck in “you do not do us a favor by putting an industry in our backyard”. Rather, pathetic.

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  • guest

    ganesh…….Why should a god have a wife? A man may enjoy with his wife for an
    hour or two. Even for this many need drugs and medicines to whip up
    their potentialities. But our Puranas say that our god had intercourse continuously for thousands of years. The Devas
    were witnessing this scene. They became afraid. They prayed to the god
    to stop. The god expressed his inability to stop. At last with great
    difficulty he stopped the intercourse. His semen gushed forth like a
    canal. The devas are said to have drunk Siva’s semen. Is it not so
    written in the Puranas? Is this the way to create a god? If the
    Brahmins had any respect for us and considered all of us as human
    beings, would they dare to record such absurd things in the Puranas? Are we devoid of common sense? No. He has the boldness to compel us to believe every thing he has written in the Puranas.

    Gods as murderers: God is described as the
    embodiment of love. But you find dreadful weapons in the hands of gods.
    Are gods murderers? Is there a single god that has not killed anyone?
    The Puranas are replete with umpteen instances to prove that
    gods killed so many. Are our gods butchers? How are we to be convinced
    of the statement that gods are kind?

    With all these baseless, senseless and idiotic puranas, they have succeeded in making our society static, reactionary and dumb. People have lost their sense of thinking.
    Hence no sensible man endowed with reason would consider it necessary to worship such gods or touch the f

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  • bala srinivasan

    While this Blog is partly correct its remedial solution is non existant.Until INDIA FULLY embraces MARKET ECONOMY&STOP the HALF COOKED MEASURES the TROUBLE will not only prevail but exacerbate.We procrastinate first,pontificate next&finally offer HALF BAKED&HALF HEARTED SOLUTIONS leading to worsening CONDITION.UNTIL we become BOLD&CONFIDENT there is NO WAY OUT.

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  • Koki

    This is what happens when people are fed with unreasonable hope of doubling the return on their investment every year. Unrealistic euphoria,it it is called.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/deepakj Deepak Jain

    Hope the author realizes that the solution lies in empowering the downtrodden, instead of doling out money as has been the case. And please name the UPA when they deserve, the way you do with the BJP

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  • young bengal

    Folks INDIA IS GOING DOWN THE PAN.LIVING IN INDIA IS SAME AS LIVING IN A MORAL SEWER.Else how can you explain the scum NDTV brazenly inviting MANU ******** SINGHVI , day in day out in prime time tv.Indians who like to lecture the “west” on its moral decrepitude need to reflect how a man who tramples on marital fidelity and USES high office and the bartering of judge’s post for some nookie in his back office can go about as if nothing happened. Now it is possible the anchors in NDTV empathise for they may be fellow travellers..Next a russian hooker will be able siphon off stragetic secrets for a few shag.

    NO WONDER INDIA IS A BECOMING A LAND OF RAPISTS

    Next the ECONOMY. I have discussed this umpteen times in some other guise in these blogs.Let me reiterate.

    Inflation is universal ,even I feel it in uk. though being a surgeon , doesn’t preclude me from going to watch Flamenco Festival , tickets costing the equivent of one way fare to resorts in spain.Only a year or two ago there were FOOD RIOTS in cairo. Though EU has GRAIN MOUNTAIN and WINE LAKES and butter mountain , but high fuel prices vis a vis transport cost as well PRINTING MONEY IN BILLIONS now euphemistically known as QUANTITATIVE EASING.has caused this inflation in uk.You dont need rocket

    science to explain the plight of greece and spain, though there the ONLY problem is UNEMPLOYMENT running at 25%.

    BUT INDIA’S PROBLEM IS FAR MORE FUNDAMENTAL

    1.India needs “Revolution in Agriculture”. Needs to come out of STONE AGE.

    All land holding coalesced into a CORPORATION with patta holders getting a share of the company as well as job in the corporation.

    TOTALLY MECHANISED FARMING with computer controlled irrigation and fertiliser use, and INTENSELY DENSE sowing of seeds by machines as is done in WEST, with a view to bring the productivity in line with the west.
    Currently the stasiticsis 3 india 8 west(per acre yield)

    COMPULSORY UNIVERSAL ENGLISH MEDIUM EDUCATION with 500 marks for vernacular. Establish a centre for comparative education to learn about the different methods in different country.
    MOST IMPORTANT OR THE IMPORTANT
    DIGITALISE EDUCATION with virtual teachers
    this will ensure UNIFORM HIGH STANDARD , ZERO TEACHER ABSENTISM
    all you need is a television studio and bandwith.
    instead of teachers there should be LIFE COACHES in classes with mandatory qualification in child and adoloscent psychology

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You would quote Nirad choaudhry as if he were God. Now the news has come out that Nirad was a British spy !! And he got UK citizenship for it. What do you have to say to that?

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  • ehgrich

    dimple nothing is possible till stomach is full.muslims are last to be hired and first to be fired.read vrious reports by committees appointed by goi u will find muslims in worst condition as compare to others.this is because of descrimination.

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  • engrich

    not even a single muslim is jehadi in india.abhinav bharat was planting the bombs putting the blame on muslims.thanks god they are caught and having good time in jail.

    muslims are the golden gooze of indian economy most of the cities in india are known because of their handicraft works.

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  • Faulitics

    This author even frames a common problem of poverty in communal terms as if not being Muslim means you are living it up.he looks at everything through a communal colored prism. Sign of an arabized mind which is trained to look at everything as us and the them.

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    GUEST Reply:

    hindu haijehan gareebi hai wahan.they dont share their wealth with poors.they share it with bhagwans.

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  • Anonymous

    The muslims are not poor. Most of the money they have is BLACK thru criminal activities.

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  • adarsh

    India is a land controlled by cocky babus and politicians who are perpetually busy protecting their income sources. Their way of keeping the poor janata happy is by throwing crumbs at janata like Maharajas did. Industrialists and businessmen who create jobs are treated like dirt.
    Every businessman wants to make money; in the process jobs get created and national wealth increases – leading to good for all. Rich NRI businessmen industrialists also want to make money and it takes some patriotism and courage to think of India with its red-tape and business unfriendly attitude. Unlike industrialists who are stuck with India, NRIs don’t owe shit to India and can take their investment elsewhere.
    I think we deserve our rotten PSUs and DRDO type organizations whose incompetent and inefficient managers and employees have screwed this country all these years. DOT kept telephone prices high for half a century (till privatization) and Air India types cost govt. tens of thousand crores every year. Jaihind.

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