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Hi Sunjoy
Yes “The Departed” OST has nice collection of tracks and “I Am Shipping Up To Boston” by Dropkick Murphys is still on my playlist. After listening to this track I downloaded their whole Discography,but I was rather disappointed to find ,most of the tracks were of similar nature.Although Celtic Punk is still a interesting genre for me.
Talking of OST’s,didn’t you check out “Forrest Gump” OST.I consider it one of the biggest and aptly used soundtracks of all time.It carries all big names such as Bob Dylan,Jimi Hendrix,Lynyrd Skynyrd,Elvis Presley,Aretha Franklin,The Doobie Brothers,Jefferson Airplane,Simon & Garfunkel,The Beach Boys and mostly The Doors (which you don’t like),I am not sure about the sequence.
And lately I loved the specially composed soundtrack of “The Dark Knight”.The OST is an outcome of genius collaboration of Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard,and the composition is just astounding.The tempo just kicks of with a 10 minute “Why So Serious”and the successive tracks just take you deep into dark,sinister world of Joker,Two Face and Batman.Its an amazing work of synthesizers,cello,violins which is usually associated with Hans Zimmer.
And both movies were huge and top-class as well.
Enjoy your Music…!!!

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Hi Sanjoy,

You should also look up the soundtrack of ‘Last Action Hero’. The movie didn’t do too well despite being heavily promoted. (even in space if I remember correctly) The soundtrack was at a different level though. As an aside it included the live version of ‘Dream On’ that Aerosmith has performed at MTV with a symphony. That performance was awe-worthy too.

Cheers
Niraj

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Good article. I just got my hands on The Departed OST (after reading your piece) and rather enjoyed it. In my view, OSTs are a good way to discover new music. Did you try the OSTs from Juno and Gone in Sixty Seconds? Both feature good songs. I particularly liked the Low Rider and If Everybody Looked the Same from Gone in 60 Seconds and Tree Hugger by Antsy Pants from Juno
And if you are listening to your songs either online or the downloaded copies you can create your own playlist – right?

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Speaking of soundtracks, the OST from Across The universe is amazing!!! I have never heard that good a reproduction of The Beatles…..

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Dude, nice article,covered some good stuff there and yeah the departed OST is just a bunch of oddly collected nice sounding songs(some of them even classics like you mentioned) but they don’t really fit. I mean playing comfortably numb during a love making scene would have made Mr. Gilmour to scratch out all the hair he is left with, i guess that’s why they didn’t use the original. Frankly i guess only shipping up to boston made some sense. Good keep writing such stuff and while you are at it, just go check out Juno’s OST. It’s truly, amazingly and somewhat profoundly beautiful. The best part, it fits ‘oh so perfectly’! It has sonic youth covering a carpenter’s song(pretty brilliant actually), and although i almost never like them, they do make this song sound amazing. You then have velvet underground too with one of those ultra-rare tracks where their drummer, Mo Tucker sings and then there’s Kimya Dawson, she sure has a voice which could get your attention even if you are drooling away to glory at 3 in the morning. The whole album is just so beautiful and all the songs connect. The songs are just so soulful and simple that it makes you just sit back and marvel at the same. Although i don’t generally agree with what you write but here i guess you quite hit the point. Well so just try to get a hold of this amazing OST.

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Well, I read this article in the Brunch and remember thinking to myself at the time that two OSTs that probably needed mentioning were “Juno” and “Into the Wild”. For me, Kimya Dawson and Belle & Sebastian were the big finds on “Juno”.
You should check out “Into the Wild”. Pearl Jam were the soundtrack to my generation, and as always happens, I outgrew them, only returning every once in a while for the occassional listen. Pubs still play a lot of Ten though !!!! “Into the Wild” made me listen to the entire PJ discography all over again !! Not to mention that the OST itself features on the most played list on my IPOD. If you do check it out, do let us know what you think…

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soundgarden music lyrics…

Can point me to other similar posts on soundgarden music lyrics? Really appreciate it. Thanks….

Hi soundgarden music lyrics,
Tried http://www.lyricsty.com/lyrics/s/soundgarden/ ?

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the soundtracks in “Stranger than fiction”, “Chungking Express”, and “The Big Lebowski” will definitely be missed…

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Hello Sanjoy,

Nice article meeting my need of discovering new bands with pretty good songs. I think “Top Gun ” is also equipped with a good soundtrack like it’s theme, danger zone and take my breath away. I hope you will like them if you have not already come across them and even if you have then you must be enjoying them like i do. Keep up the good work!

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Nowadays, it has become a kind of standard that the OSTs should boast a number of indie tracks. Perhaps it started with the OSTs of some TV series, probably the HBO ones. On any OST these days, the usual suspects are Death Can for Cutie, Belle and Sebastian, Grizzly Bear and the like. To say nothing of a Hallelujah cover. While we are on Hallelujah, it’s often played in the TV series or movies when the protagonist is undergoing a spiritual awakening, or during a highly emotional climax, while the actual essence of the song is the theme of wives cheating on husbands. And this song, by far I’ve seen, has been used appropriately only on the Lord of War soundtrack (when Nic Cage’s wife in the move starts to spy on him).
Though it may sound clichéd, I guess no one can beat Quentin Tarantino and T Bone Burnett when it comes to picking songs for an OST.

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Intriguing question, no easy answer. Something like eating dal chawal at home, with one’s hands, despite reading all the columnist’s write ups about exotic cuisines.

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I have met some really neat people through the comments, I certainly want to encourage more me to comment. Thanks for the tips!

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The greener pastures that the shores of West has been displaying even when dollar was Rs.8 has possibly accentuated our awe for English from the days of English Rule.
That led to vulgar popularity of English as THE preferred medium of education even for the [so-called] middle class.The sudden spurt of the spread unfortunately could not sustain quality.
As a result now we have poorer proficiency in English as well indigenous languages.
With other Asian countries fast catching up India’s Software Saga, the competition that this may bring in may be harbinger of next wave of language skill improvement.
Would this haven in 2020 or 2030?

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Country hasn’t forgotten the calls you made and role you played in the 2G scam. If an affective Lokpal established, you will be the first crony journalist to go to Tihar. Good luck!

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Sanghvi must have received a hefty pay for writting this article ! Sanghvi knows that Anna has a far larger following & let me tell him that due to the above article his following is bound to grow more.

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Govt can’t afford 2 let go CBI control because the skeltons of Sonia & other Minister who are drafting the Bill would come out and most of them would land up in jails. They would rather play politics and try get out of the jam. Let us not get them out of the hook this time.

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It is Congress India lost land to Paksiatan (PoK) and China from Kashmir. Since Congress has ruled the nation for many decades. Not resolving issues with Pak leading to terrorism in various parts of India. Today by doing caste and religion based politics they just creating a Pro congress environment, but the truth is nation has lost more under Congress rule than any other. They will not going to bring strong anti Corruption laws simply because they are scared to looses more important leaders and loose the election. Time has come when people should take best of both sides (Congress and BJP). Since Congress has already cleared quota for minorities, now people in UP should vote only for those who are willing to support Jan lokpal bill and are non corrupt. Idea is take what ever Congress is giving to minorities but choose people of your choice.

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Are you talking about the toothless Lokpal bill of the Congress variety? Sudhakar is right. It was a well orchestrated Congress drama and Hamid Ansari also failed. You may be fooled but I am not. They have been scuttling, obfuscating, foot dragging, bluffing for the last one year, let alone the last 43 years. They are masters at it. Remember USA nuclear deal? What was the midnight raid on Ramdev’s tent about? Why did the lady Rajbala die?

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Oh!!! This is divine intervention – a physiotherapist named Dr. Bookwala I mean. I’m sure you’re attending every session religiously, just to have a chance at calling out aloud to her

Hope your wrist has healed and you’re better.

Cheers!

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Hmm. Medical condition aside, I still hope that you do make it to Twitter. As it is the best site where one can mix social activity along with professional. You are a sure to be a big hit there. Many of your colleagues are already there.

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NOW THE POLITICIANS WILL USE THE MODELS TO SELL THEMSELVES IN ENSUING ELECTIONS ! OF COURSE IN EXCHANGE OF VOTES.

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The only difference is Taslima Nasreen and Salman Rushdie have come to India. While MF Hussain was hounded out of India. Ramanujam essay was banned and Cow slaughter ban has been applied with a clause of guilty until proven innocent and 7 year prison sentence. Even if you kill a person you get 7 year sentence.

So the govt. has been more practive in projecting the Hindu community to be more illeberal and regressive as the Muslim extreme demands never get met in any case.

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Actually praying to the Sun makes people look like idiots and those who can’t see that are insecure or narrow minded.

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Ok ****, we heard you. Say hello to your ISI handlers.

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A word about Azadi from History, I would share here. After the invasion of J&K by Pakistani Regulars & tribal’s in 1947, after the massacre of Hindus in Muzzafarabad on 22/10/1947 & killing its DC named Doni Chand Mehta in front of his wife, one KP Pandit Tarachand Wagam was taken as prisoner & later was so-called appointed as new ‘wazir wazarat’ of muzzafarabad (deputy commissioner). Radio Pakistan was broadcasting (propaganda only) repeatedly ‘kashmiri pandit ko wazir wazarat banaya gaya hai, ek aur kashmiri ko judge’. This judge was a Shia Muslim Ashiq Hussain neighbor of Abbas Ansari (former Hurriyat Chairman) & Moulvi Iftaikhar Hussain Ansari at present with PDP. With active connivance of Pakistanis & goons of Muslim conference (who was from baramullah) Tara Chand was converted to Muslim with new name given to him was Mohammad Tariq. After some days he developed fever. Medicines were not available, all the while Tara Chand was muttering the words of his family members, and 15 days later he passed away. He was buried near a mosque in muzzafarabad. His daughter and son Srikrishan came back to valley with Red Cross, this was their azadi. KP,s have tasted their so-called azadi in 1947 itself. Today no Hindu lives in POK that they had cleansed it in 1947 itself.

1990 being water-shed in politics of Kashmir as it was continuation where Pakis tan left it in 1947, there were first targeted killing of Kashmiri Pandits, KP,s were not & are not aligned to separatism based on religion as none of their political aspirations were not going to be fulfilled by this violence & from day one. They are vindicated on this, the valley based KP Sangharsh Samiti i.e those who did not leave Kashmir (leave alone Migrants for a second) have came out with a report stating that from May-1990 to July 1990, a killing of a Kashmiri Hindu each day took place in valley & Jag-Mohan was not then the Governor, so it speaks volumes about the whole situation.

The violence in Kashmir was not in any way in their physical & political interests so were forced to migrate. And now this 7.5 lakh KP’ they have a political demand as original residents of Valley like, after all separatists cannot spread the canard that they are politically correct with violence with gun & KP,s are politically incorrect with non-violence, that is political bankruptcy in reality.

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About 1990 the late Mr P.N. Haksar (1913-1998) came to speak at the University of Delhi and was introduced, if introduction was needed, by the late Professor V.P. Dutt (1925-2011). In his remarks Professor Dutt noted the anguish of the Kashmiri Pandits who had started pouring out of Kashmir in the preceding year in the wake of terrorist violence that made short work of the famed Kashmiriat, which to us in India was the same as the secular attitude. The problem of the displacement of Kashmiri Pandits had started becoming noticeable.
As the write up says, the attitude of Kashmiri Pandits was much the same as that of the displaced persons from Pakistan in the wake of the Partition. I remember my late father (1883-1978) telling me in late 1947 that we, displaced from Rawalpindi, would be back in Rawalpindi in a few months. After Gandhi’s assassination, my father stopped talking of going back. We stayed on in India, with hardly a helping hand from Nehru’s government. The refugee camps in which we lived were closed within a year. I am not surprised that the present government is not doing much for the Kashmiri Pandits.
The world was concerned about the Jewish diaspora and decided to give them a homeland of their own: for the first time in history, a new State had been created by gift. Whenever ethnic cleansing happens anywhere in the world now, the world press waxes eloquent, especially if the victims are whites, as in the case of the Jews and the Europeans. But the equally white Kashmiri Pandits do not seem to make the grade and receive very little attention from the world press and from world bodies like the UN. Not much attention is paid to several African countries where events resemble ethnic cleansing.
It is a moot question whether the Kashmiri terrorists, whom you still prefer to describe as militants, were concerned about Kashmiriat, a characteristic of the state of J&K, which must have had something to do with the psyche and attitude of Nehru, himself a Pandit of Kashmiri extraction. The terrorists have gone on to distinguish themselves by killing even Kashmiri Muslims who were not in agreement with the ideas and objectives that the terrorists were attempting to ram down the throats of Kashmiris. In the upshot, Kashmiriat has been the first casualty of terrorism in Kashmir.
Perhaps we do not need to argue at great length to make the point that terrorism in Kashmir is for the most part Pakistan’s export and that Pakistan, itself far from being a secular place, could hardly be expected to care about Kashmiriat. To be sure, Kashmiriat ran counter to the ideas and inspiration that went into the making of Pakistan in the first place. If Pakistan’s leaders and terrorist masterminds had no use for Kashmiriat, it was hardly surprising. It is even possible to contend that abolishing Kashmiriat was one of the primary objectives of those who sent terrorists across the IB and LOC from Pakistan and POK. Pakistan’s leaders of all hues have been known to have been fanatics, with the possible and sole exception of M.A. Jinnah (1876-1948) who did not have much time to leave a lasting impact, though.
Whatever the political colour of governments at the centre or in J&K, their first concern is to appeal to the Muslims of Kashmir, who, as you say, may not care overmuch for the kind of dispensation that they may have to live under if they were part of Pakistan. If these governments have to appeal to the Muslims of Kashmir, then Kashmiri Pandits naturally cannot be objects of the attention of these governments. Then, who should be concerned about ‘ethnic cleansing’ in Kashmir that you speak of? In any case, such ethnic cleansing is the handiwork of terrorists, who are still being distinguished from the State and the Government of Pakistan, in my view erroneously.
In this scenario, there is little hope or possibility that Kashmiri Pandits shall receive much attention from the Indian central government or the state government of J&K, or from the world press.
V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, 21 Jan 2012, 1200 IST

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The disadvantages of bengs educated, developed, powerful and economically well-off refugees, whose only crime is that they were caught in the cross-fire between the state and its militants.

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Yes, you have a right to protest but that is where the line ends. Crossing over into threats of violence is totally unacceptable. For example, muslims around the world protesting at a book is alright, but wanting to kill a man is a sign of breakdown of civilization.
Do you understand the difference between the two?

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In short, muslim voters are communal to the core.

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Jihad in Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya is Mandatory, because people live under oppression and tyranny. Similarly Jihad against Syrian Tyranny is mandatory

other people call this struggle for national liberation.

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rdicalism is due to unemployment not because of religion.economies are destroyed by americans and russian invasion.they became suicide bmber to feed family.

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keeping dead money anywhere is crime against humanity.

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all ur books are war stories all ur bhagwans came to suppres the suppressed it is only ur god who are loaded with deadly weapon.ur race is stagnant non progressive race.u are beheading muslims in communal riots and bomb planting bussines.

ur awnser is a cry of somebody who has no awnser.

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CORATION

please read coronation

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read arthshastra and dharamshasta and read how aadi shankaracharya kicked out budhdhist from main land.

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Good. You can go on haj with him and the other role model and icon Zakir Naik.

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Perhaps that is why Zia mian calls him a role model and icon.

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i think if true democracy comes, secularism and freedom of expression would follow automatically

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“The Politics of Rage: Why Do They Hate Us, in the Newsweek in the aftermath of 9/11. It was delusional, he argued, to think that terrorists target America because they are simply insane. ”

Hate (or rather imagined hate) is a part of the Islamic Theology.

What is the explanation otherwise for destroying the various deities of Kaaba by Prophet Muahmmed if not his hatred towards the people who wouldn’t want to agree with him and his theories on how the Kaaba was built by Abraham. According to archaeological evidence, even the city of Mecca didn’t exist before 3-4th century AD forget about Mecca existing prior to that. So, Muhammed just imagined it in his mind and wanted others to believe it as well and flew into a stubborn confrontation when others refused to accept up is down and down is up.

This is the core of Islam. Every religion is a way to channelize/package some human aspect. “Original and orthodox” Islam packages/redirects the human emotion of “anger and hate” into violence directed disbelievers.

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Not true. He played a part in the hbo documentary which exposed the chilling fanaticism involved in the way the mumbai attackers and their handlers operated. No Islamist will do that.

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Finally an article from zia with which I don’t have a problem with…almost. Zia calls zakaria right but the American right calls him left. He gets all the best knowledgable guests and his shows are generally informative because of that. Ah…one more thing. Maybe he succeeded because he didn’t wear his religion on his lapel and he has talent and did not restrict himself to looking at the world through a religious and ummah prism like our Zia…

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Interesting. Why do you think that his dad is a closet jihadi?

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Fareed Zakaria is one the rarest of the rare persons who wears very lightly “the accident of his birth” in a family that is moslem. He does not make a living , wearing his “muslimness” on his sleeves. He never has an Islamic takkiya (lying) way of approaching facts, he is very sound on logic and given the constraints of dealing with islamic terrorism, does appear to go quite a distance. He has been quite categorical about Pakistan’s dubious role as the epicentre of Islamic Terrorism, he is, as yet, not an apologist.

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I have no problems whatsoever with APJ Abdul Kalam, Mohammed Rafi, Maulana Azad, etc. They are Arabic origin names. But I suspect you may have problems with Indian sounding names.

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@Azhar, I assumed people who have had the benefit of secular english education would have been able to unshakle themselves from the tyranny of “mob psychology” and reflect on issues around them as rational beings.
Your putting this growth statistics is a clear pointer that you feel strong in a crowd and vapourize as an individual..There are millions of ants and insects in any wooded area, but few lions and tigers. The measure of any civilization or group today, is the number of Nobel prizes in science or number of patents that group is able to register annually. Right from Morrocco till Malayasia, one would require a very powerful microscope to find patents, if any, recorded annually.This comfort in a crowd is a pathetic mind-set that reflects Yasser Arafat’s famous quote to crush Israel: The Bomb and the Womb. For your kind information the largest number of muslim converts in the UK and USA are the prison inmates. not a bit surpriing, given the rewards promised in the “Holy BooK” for committing atrocites.

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@Azhar, noted that you have no answer to my points of “mob mentality”, nor about techical or cultural accomplishments right from Morocco till Malaysia. The “non-msulims” working there are there because the locals lack those experstises.
it is incredulus that there can be any Indian feeling “aggreived” at moslem deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.In our homeland so much blood has been shed before, during and after the partition. Moslems prior to the partition, thanks to the call of “Direct Action” by the Muslim League, went on a slaughtering spree, Want to know the enormity of the tragedy, over 350,000 slaughtered in Noakhali, Calcutta riots, nearly 50,000 killed, then there is the Lahore massacre, Rawalpindi , Quetta killings the list is endless, but it is futile ennumberating any of it to a psuedo-arab as you . Your mind is blinkered only to shed “tears” for Palestine, for Chechnya, Bosnia etc etc, you heart does not bleed for Indians suffering, or for any human suffering inflicted by the Copts in Egypt, Christians in Iraq, Lebanon, or Hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. I wonder why you are residing in this Dar-ul-harb, you would be so much delirious in your dar-ul-islam..I sincerely feel that your education has been a squandered resource.

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Another moronic clown. Whats your point? That islamic countries have more freedom than america or india? If you think that way, you live in a islamist bubble. Fareed Zakaria very frequently criticizes israel and even invites some islamist nutters to the program just expose your nutter brothers. So maybe you have not watched his program and speaking out your arse. Another ummah clown.

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Tejinder, Your “hopes” are not “facts”

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The exhindu Anjem represents islamist clowns, not the oppresed.

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Take his advice. Listen to Fareed zakaria and civilize yourself. Maybe you will even be civilized enough to leave the arab cult. Who knows….

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Thats true. The congress likes to deal with Bhukari and his ilk. They respect Bhukari more than they respect someone like zakaria because it suits their political ends to keep people dumb…like for example out Tejinder alias enrich.

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J and Z are not the same in english. Different alphabets. But your post is good. I agree with you other than the Jakaria part.

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Thankfully they are not in the pocket of the uncivilized islamist lobby like you. So they won’t be rooting for barbaric sharia like you anytime soon.:-)

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What sort of an idiot are you? You don’t sound like an average Fareed Zakaria fan who generally have better IQ’s than average. You sound moronic. And please don’t tell anyone you are a fared zakaria fan. Thats an insult to fareed zakaria.

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to what?

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India rates low because it’s eye sight is focused on lowly things – democracy of the corrupts for the corrupts by the corrupts!

Most of the civilised world being focused on high sight (rule of law, ethics, accountability, responsibility etc), naturally they are cruising at high altitude.

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Zia Haq is now a “champion”! Join Bollywood and you will make better living!

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SM Hali is the buffoon who writes stories of fantasy pinning imaginary fault on India in their rightwing news paper ‘The Nation’ (www.nation.com.pk) ..Google him to get an idea of this fool – if this was the type of audiences u met with, you were better off eating biryani at Food street in Lahore

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If he had any sentiments for this country he would have changed his name first. If the Pakistani public has to confide with him he must have blamed India and supported Pakistani views. There must be a law to severely punish such anti-national black sheep who eat Indian bread and work against its interests.

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Change name? For what ? Unless you people change your communal mindset India will remain divided

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Glad to learn that Pakistani people including army and politicians are veering around to the point that Indians are not their enemy # 1. Had they realized this fact in 1947, there would have been no wars between the two countrty would have prevailed in the sub-continent during all these years. Alas.
On the Indian side, glad to see the Hindu leadership of many a political party recognizing Indian Muslims’ problems and power (latest U.P. elections) and are talking (just talking as of now) of providing 18% reservations from the OBC quota in education, jobs and welfare schemes.
Guys, had Nehru, Patel & Jinnah come to some agreement on Muslim reservations before 1947, there would have been no Partition at all.
It needed the USA’s bombs to teach Pakistan a lesson.
It needed Indian Muslims’ votes to teach Indian Hindus a lesson.
Glad both of them are learning well, after all said and done. Let us see some positive action on the ground for a change.

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Waal-arda madadnahawaalqayna feeha rawasiya waanbatnafeeha min kulli shay-in mawzoonin
And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.
Qur’an 15:19

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Folks this is to counter the CANARD spread by a low caste hindu convert full of Malcontent, the facts about KASHMIR and why this has no resembaLNCE TO iSRAELI pALESTANIAN CONFLICT
Pakistani backed[11]:18 Pashtun tribal intervention from the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa that aimed at supporting the revolution,[15][16] the Maharaja asked for Indian military assistance. India set a condition that Kashmir must accede to India for it to receive
assistance. The Maharaja complied, and the Government of India recognized the accession of the erstwhile princely state to India. Indian troops were sent to the state to defend it. The Jammu & Kashmir National Conference volunteers aided the Indian Army in its campaign to drive out the Pathan invaders.[17]

Pakistan was of the view that the Maharaja of Kashmir had no right to call in the Indian Army, because it held that the Maharaja of Kashmir was not a heredity ruler, that he was merely a British appointee after the British defeated Ranjit Singh who ruled the province before the British.[13] There had been no such position as the “Maharaja of Kashmir” prior to British rule. Hence Pakistan decided to take action, but the Army Chief of Pakistan General Douglas Gracey did not send troops to the Kashmir front and refused to obey the order to do so given by Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Governor-General of Pakistan. Gracey justified his insubordination by arguing that Indian forces occupying Kashmir represented the British Crown and hence he could not engage in a military encounter with Indian forces. Pakistan finally did manage to send troops to Kashmir but by then the Indian forces had taken control of approximately two thirds of the former principality(Source WIKIPEDIA)

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Acting friendly when you can’t afford to be enemies is no virtue but just a strategy. With the Pakistanis, we should always be on our guard. That country was formed on a philosophy of hatred of the everything native to the subcontinent. That will never change. The only thing we can do is to manage Pakistan and be on our guard. Destabilizing them will also affect us badly because we will be facing refugees from there and that will be a total disaster. The afghans or the Iranians will never take in Pakistani refugees if something goes terribly wrong in Pakistan.

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If Mr. Manmohan sing in his eight years govt couldn’t do any thing he will or can’t do any thing for next two years as well , He had a golden chance when Musharf Regime in Pakistan offer him Kashmir solution which was totally against the will of Pakistani and Kashmir people and UNO resolution on Kashmir,
Strong Anti Pakistan establishment in India will never allow him to fix the issue with Pakistan what India has created since the birth of these countries,
India is main root cause of all trouble in this region with it’s neighbours , it has issues with China,Srilanka ,B’Desh and of course, pakistan, doesn’t how many Blog you write to hide the truth and your black face truth will come out cevilizrd world is not fool.

1947-India violated British India Independence Act and invaded Muslim Majority sates of Kashmir which suppose to join Pakistan as per this pact
India this illegal Act leads to 1948, 65 & 99 war

1971—India once again violated UN Charter and interfered in Pakistan and invaded in East Pakistan which leads to 71 War and creation of B’desh.

1984—India once again violated UNO Charter and invaded line of Control and occupied Pakistan land in Sia Chin Glacier and destroy this beautiful roof top of the world, Indian army not only dumping it’s chemical or nuclear waste but also using chemical to melt down the Glacier which is costing big time Indus River system in subcontinent, which has affected weather pattern but also agriculture land both side of boarder, Indians must accept and apologies for this environmental disaster and withdraw it’s forces before 1984 position, other wise it’ll tiger one more nuclear standoff

India- And violating Indus water treaty and steeling water and building dams on Pakistani rivers
How Pakistani can trust India and write one more truce, where you’re violating all previous treaties…………….. Shame on you

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You cannot trust the Pakistanis. Right now they have no money and have run out of ideas. The moment they have some money, they will be back to creating trouble. No one should underestimate the ability of the military and ISI. Only Fools will overlook the past.

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Looks like the one guy you met in Pakistan, who, conveniently happened to be a higher up in ISI, told you exactly what you wanted to hear, and not surprisingly, you believed every word of it. Then you came here, brushed aside 26/11 because “he said so” and with a bleeding heart, started apologizing on behalf of Pakistan. Thanks, but no thanks. Your credibility has taken a hit because of all this.

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The likes of you and Jawed Naqvi just make me sick to my stomach.

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I read this write up with complete disbelief. I have been a student of India’s relations with Pakistan for some time, and especially from 1998 onwards. I have seen nothing in the practice of the Pakistan policy makers to encourage a hope, much less an expectation, that Pakistan could indeed turn a new page. Even the comments do not justify an optimistic assessment.
What we see instead in all kinds of writings that emante from Pakistan is that there is colossal and consistent misinterpretation of history and everything that led to the partition of 1947. Since then Pakistan’s youngsters have been brainwashed into believing that India and its Hindus constitute a standing threat to Pakistan and Islam: therefore, they argue that everything must be done to ensure that good relations with India must never arise.
In fact it has been my reading that in Pakistan there is no constituency for good relations with India. This is contrary to what this write up says, namely, “There is no constituency in Pakistan today that wants confrontation with India, the armed forces included,” as the Pakistani Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed put it. I am afraid I remain unconvinced.
Pakistan blames India for everything that goes wrong in Pakistan, whether it was/is Kashmir, East Pakistan, Baluchistan, Afghanistan, or anything else. Gen Musharraf was so enamoured of seeing the Indian hand in everything big or small happening in Pakistan that a young nephew of mine once commented: “Next time his bathroom leaks, Gen Musharraf will say that India has done it.” There is a boyish exaggeration in it but it has a point. I do not entirely disagree with the underlying thought.
Pakistan needs to run its affairs with a better regard for its own people and their development and welfare. No one wants to eat up Pakistan. For all of its 65 years Pakistan has lived beyond its means to such an extent that today it stands on the brink of national bankruptcy. We need to remember the old adage that we cut our coat according to the cloth that we have.
Both India and Pakistan began their journeys about the same time and from the same starting line but the two have reached very different destinations. The reason is not India’s hostility towards Pakistan but because Pakistan constituted itself into India’s adversary to such an extent that one is forced to think of the two more or less as permanent adversaries. The choice was made by Pakistan and imposed by it on India all along the line. But four wars down the line, Pakistan, like the Bourbons, has learnt nothing and it has forgotten nothing. We thought 1971 would have taught Pakistan something but it did not persuade even ZA Bhutto, how could it persuade anyone else in Pakistan? Pakistan continued to maintain its armed forces at the earlier levels although it had half the territory to consider after 1971, even if more cohesive. ZAB went on to inaugurate the pursuit of nuclear weapons, a quest that his successors never gave up.
Unfortunately, as the ISI officer said, Pakistan made a wrong choice in the context of fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan and, under Ziaul Haq, inaugurated not only pursuit of jihad but a massive dose of Islamization for the people of Pakistan. To my way of thinking, Islamization has been Pakistan’s undoing, much aggravated by Pakistan’s devotion to jihad and terror.
It is for Pakistan, its leaders, and its people to make a re-assessment of Pakistan’s capabilities and resources. When they reach a realistic assessment in this respect, it will be time for better relations with India.
My parting submission is if you love a dame, do your own courting.
V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, 7 May 2012, 1044 IST

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Mr. Haq goes to Pakistan, meet some Pakistanis there, tells them that he as an
Indian and ask for their opinion. He listens to their views, believes them and come back here and tells us how these Pakistanis are honest, virtuous and trustworthy.
Absolutely rubbish article.

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People who repose their faith in the CIA/Mossad/RAW axis would never accept that ISI’s rogues were paid enough millions to do the needful on 26/11. The USA wants to stay put in Afghanistan and that is why they are droining out all those Pashtuns who are resisting occupation from the Pak/Af billy areas. And of course the USA wants no Pakistani interference in Afghan affairs as only the USA carry hegemonistic rights in that country. Well, for us its good that Pakistan influence is lessened in Afghanistan as that would support our interest. I am afraid Pakistan have missed the Indo-friendly bus – it will indeed take a very long time to undo the damage done to mutual trust. And as far as being on guard vis-a-vis nothern, north-western & north-eastern neighbours are concerned, that would always be the need of our security.

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If you want to reinvestigate Modi, ask for it, but don’t use excuse of “justice”. This is because any investigation, no matter how just it is, if finds Modi non guilty, you are going to call it “injustice”.

Besides, in your entire article, which is mostly emotional outburst (nothing wrong with it) is devoid of any logic explaining why SIT investigation is flawed. Moreover, for fairness sake, you should have asked to investigate your beloved prophet Sanjeev Bhatt as well, but you didn’t while SIT has produced enough convincing reasons which go against reliability of Sanjeev Bhatt.

So how about this, next time you ask for justice, you look inside and ask yourself if you are truly neutral?

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Incredible it may appear MY COMMENTS LAST NIGHT HAS BEEN REMOVED, WELL LETS TRY AGAIN
Zia’s lines
“The SIT has not only conducted the investigation in a partial, biased and callous manner, but it can also be reasonably be assumed that the SIT has only served to cover up the role played by the Chief Minister Narendra Modi”
In any other country THIS IS CONTEMPT OF COURT, iN FACT IF ANYONE INFORMS OR BRINGS TO THE ATTENTION OF SUPREME COURT ZIA WILL BE IN A BIG TROUBLE.
If Narendra Modi said EVEN WITHIN FOUR WALLS “Hindus should be allowed to vent their anger” HE SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR INCITING RACIAL HATRED, the problem is it is only hearsay.
Also how would Zia feel if Prravin Togadia arranges a tour of BURNT CARRIAGES in GODHRA.
The fact is hindu gujratis hate muslim gujratis , and gujrat is in pole position in riots , and it has been for last 500 years .There used to be riots during Mughal Times.
Just because the above truths are uncomfortable , so lets target modi , the soft and visible target.
If Ehssan Jafri started firing THEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE WHETHER IT WAS SELF DEFENCE OR WHETHER HE BROUGHT ON HIMSELF.
Also Zia would like to reflect 300HINDUS DIED IN THE RIOT MANY FROM POLICE FIRING

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For Justice sake, so many paralell inquiries have been hounding Modi that Hitlers of the world would have died, still unscathed. So comparison is useless.

Let one single inquiry happen to all riots that have happened in India to its perpetrators, we will see who vanishes. Hitler can suicide with fear, but Modi is fearless since he has done no wrong. Justice has been delayed, thus denied to Modi, by the crooks to somehow, somehow, nail him, sinc ehe is the most eligible, uncorrupt of last 6 decades!

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The problem here is about the totally amoral, unethical and inhuman attitude of the Hindus, especially of Gujarat. All over the world no sane society or person can condone people like Karadzic, Milosevic, Osama, Ariel Sharon etc. Then how come Narender Modi is receiving such blind support of the Hindus, many of whom are quite sane, normal and peace loing people? We all recognize that Godhra as an inhuman act right from its time of occurrence. How can Hindus be so unethical and amoral that they do not recognize Modi’s role later on as equally inhuman? A Raja or a Badsha in the feudal days can get away with it of course – but not in a democracy where a Constitution is regulating our lives.

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modi nu raj have nahi chale

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मोदी राज में गुजरात पर देवा हुआ हे

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modi ne gujarat me 10 sal che gujarat ko ulu banateaya he

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modi gujarat me bate kar ke gujarat ko nahi adani jeso ko malamal karata he

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Investigation is not done to please certain section of the people. The purpose of the investigation is to find truth. Now its up to you to suck it. Just have the guds to say, I want investigation to continue till Modi is found guilty.

The author seems to be idiot because SIT has said that there is no evidence of Modi instructing the police to let Hindus vent anger. The IPC amicus suggested to prosecute Modi are only appliable for making statement in public. This is exactly what SIT pointed out.

Similarly in the case of Ehsaan Zafri, SIT never said that he should be blamed. You must understand that even an act of self defence can also provoke people.

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indians have always stabbed pakistan in back

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certainly I agree with the blog published under freedom from corruption.A mere article can achieve very little, it requires a people`s participation and movement to eradicate the corruption completely and permanently to give fresh air to new generation to come and live happily

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