Sonically Youthful, Still!

Well said

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Very well said. I have always loved your columns, being a big time music buff myself. What’s your take on metal or heavy metal ? Looking forward to your columns.

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I really love to read some articles that have great positive impacts on its reader and benefit by reading such article. I admire these writers in sharing their views and or opinions that can enlighten the mind of the readers. Great Job and continue inspiring readers.

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Hi
Love reading your column…have discovered lots of new music through it. I first heard Sonic Youth on the soundtrack of Juno (released in 2007 i believe), took an instant liking to the band.
Had a small query. Sometime back you mentioned that you buy your music from emusic.com. I tried logging in but it is not available to servers in India. How do you manage to download music from that site…do you go throught proxies?

thanks
Keep up the good work.

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hi

I dont listen to heavy metal much but your column has given me new insight. your music blend is all age. hope to get some more.
my request is that could you offer alternative download sites on your blog, it really be helpfull.

thank you.

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Nice article definitely feel the same way. If you like the music then be a fan even if someone else tells you they are to old of a band. I like both Sonic Youth and Smiths. Even though they were far before my time.

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May I ask are you Indian first or Palestinian first?

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Why can’t Syria, Saudi Arabia etc. give a part of their land and create Palestine?

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What’s Palestine got to do with Zia huq? Looks like the Arabs set the political agenda and expect Muslims around the world to follow that agenda. On top of that agenda is being anti Israeli/ anti Jewish. Zia is just following that agenda. You won’t read articles from him about Chinese oppression in Tibet even though tibetians are culturally closer to Indian culture than Palestinian Arabs.

When you strip away all the facades, what’s left is that all this palestian talk from people Like Zia boils down to religious affinity misused by the Arab agenda network to almost act like a cult. This is just plain disgusting and actually dangerous to rest of the society to be honest.

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By the way, why would israleis or any other country for that matter recognize a group of people who don’t recognize their right to exist? I was listening to a BBC program on this topic and not one palestian and other Muslims who are talking for palestians gave a straight answer to the question from the host if Israel has a right to exist as a state. On the other hand, all Israelis and Jews on that program unreservedly accepted the right for palestians to exist as a state. The Palestinians are former Egyptians and jordanians. Maybe Israel should give west bank to Jordan and gaza to Egypt and let’s see how these two countries treat these “Palestinians”.

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So what you are implicitly saying is that the plight of tibetians or hindu kashmiris does not enter the perspective of this Indian who happens to be a Muslim even though these two situations affect india more directly? Why not? Are Muslims programmed to rally only to causes promoted by fellow Arab Muslims? Is Zia an high commissioner of Islam and he is temporarily residing in India? Your statement raises a lot of questions about your mindset.

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palestanians wants peace but isreal has to withdraw 1945 terrotery.uno gave them 45%of palestine they are occupying 90%.they are land grabbers and terrorist.ashknazi have no historical calim on this land they should go back to their country of origin.

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ignorant jahil khosla,,
u are liar and propagandist.jews are not arabs they are originally egyptian few of them came to arabia during moses period.at present most of the jewsin isreal are ashknazis who have no history or dna link with palestine.this is absolute rubbish and wrong to say that jews were mascared wqhen islam came.
they were doing usuar(interest)bussines in that area,enslaving the people and sucking the blood from the veins of local inhibants.
when prophet mohammed stopped usuary bussines they migrated to venice.

all other point which u mentioned are nothing but bullshit as crores of jews were living in muslim countries becfore isreal came into existence.

arab jews are tretaed like shudras in isreal.now they remember their good old days with muslim and christian palestanian.

dont forget that hazrat omar brought back the jew to jerusalam.christian expelled them.

like bhaand u only do propaganda bussines without any truth.

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because they were awarded 45%of palestine by uno.now they they have 90%of palestine through land grabbing.they should vacate that land.livein peace.

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guest bibi is biggest crook.they are nogotiating from last 40 years without any result.negotiaton means to take time to grab more and land from west bank.bibi is a cheater.

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rights of kashmiri pundits is recognized by kashmiris.now in india being brhmns they are treated well and are settled nicely.they will not go back to kashmir.they have joined the gang of brhmns who are fkng india.

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ur comment shows ur lack of knowledge.muslims consider jesus and moses as their prophet and respect them.even now there are 2crores christians living in arab world.
in palestine muslims and christians are jointly fighting isreali occupation.christian crusaders killed millions of jews not muslims.

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abc force is way to solve any problem.isreal is under of europen ashknaazi jews.jews of other origing are not ready to accept their hegemony hence lot of demostrations and protests are going on there.ashknaazi treat local semitic jews as brhmns treated local indians,shudras.
now they have seprated even their schools.

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palestanian say that stop land grabbing then talk peace.in oslo they talked 11 years and break everything which was agreed.

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snil ghaza and west were occupied in 1967 by israelis.but they did had enough jews to rehablitate there.so soviet union was destroyed.jews were taken to isreal.most of them returned are on the way of returning.cannot bear the atmosphere of religious aparthied state.syria has 4500 jews .some of them migrated to isreal,but returned almost immediately.pledging never to go there.

last jew from iraaq told in lecture to jewish boys that FOR JEWS IRAQ WAS THE GARDEN OF EDEN.U CAN LISTEN HIS LECTURE ON u-tube.

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bibi is cheater his only aim to hold terroteries.HIS ORIGINAL NAME IS ATTALAH ABDULRAHEEM NOUL.he is from sudan master in nuban language.he was hiding himself among muslims with muslim name.like indian jews(brhmns)are hiding among indians.fooling us

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Your heart beats for the Arabs but I am sure that Kashmiri Hindus are oppressors. Can’t blame you. You have been arabized.

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I think ur leaders understand that. Good for you. We, alas, have weak kneed girly men for leaders. They have still not got the guys who planned the Mumbai attacks even though they know who they are and where they are living. Pathetic.

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sometime they throw projectile to bring their case to world attention.in response they naplam sulphur and depleter uranium bombs.

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yes i deny.jews of european origin has no right over palestine.
semitic jews opposed them as vehemently as muslims or christians.
when jews were descending in palestine,almost every semitic jew gave memorendum to general balfour opposing their arrival.
this memorundum is available in archive.

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u are right but ashknazi jews are not from palestine.they have european dna origin is khazr.they have nothing to do with semitic jews of palestine.they are mostly atheist.i doubt if they are jews.once their king ordered them to choose from one of the revealed religion,they have choosen judaism to avoid conflict from western christians and eastern muslim.but i think they are still pagan.call themselves jew to have control of palestine.

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Mohammadanism has produced 1.2 billion morons like Zia…One day whole of muslim world will be called MORONISTAN.

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unless islam becomes more liberal . tolerant and has ability to carry out reforms as required , there can never be a democracy , secularism as we understand it in any muslim country . Pakistan started with a mind set akin to ours , which is so different today —some may term it as a aberration but most would see it as a natural progression of a fundamentalist , islamic mind set , inherent in their religion. As long as madrassas keep out churning sermons of separatism , of religiosity it is facile to beleive that muslim world will change . Even in egypt the rumblings have started —the 20 percent coptics are feeling insecure and last two months saw many clashes between muslims and coptics over minor issues –minor for a rationalist but of gargantum proportions to the religious fundamentalists .tHE separation and delinking of church and state in the european countries in the 17 century saw the emergence of a secular state as we know today—this delinking has never happenned in the muslim world and which is the cause of the troubles in many countries –bothof muslim majority as well as with muslim minority . Witness sudan which has been partitioned into christian south and muslim north as north tried to impose on the south their ideology , witness nigeria where christians are at loggerheads with muslims —–the muslim philosphy of when in majority / power impose by any means your system and when in minority stress the social and political system by stressing your separatness is at the root cause of the muslim intrangience—–for a benign arab / muslim spring fundamental reforms are required in the thought processes

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The arab Spring leaders would have to use religion for some time while steering their society towards political moderation. As it is, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya are countries of moderate people. Democracy would surely be a success in every country that dares to come out of itser old regime.

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Shan-
U r right..
The initial euphoria is waning. Looks like Islamic brotherhood is gaining in Egypt. Libya seems to be similar mix.
Schada has detailed well.

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shan a piece of information for u,
“The biggest revelation is an authenticated secret German document which lists Hitler as one of the passengers evacuated by plane from Austria to Barcelona on April 26, 1945.”

Although official history contends Hitler committed suicide with his newlywed wife, Eva Braun, on April, 30 1945 and their corpses were burned by others in the Berlin bunker, Abel Basti claims proof the story is a fabrication.

According to Basti’s meticulous research, the leader of the Third Reich spent his last years as an art dealer and had facial plastic surgery to change his appearance.

Those are just two of the astounding revelations that respected Argentine journalist and historian Abel Basti documents in his book, Hitler’s Exile.

TIME magazine announces Hitler’s death in 1945

While the book was a runaway bestseller across South America, it’s been suppressed in the United States and the Russian Federation. Those two countries still maintain that Germany’s Führer committed suicide during the last days of World War Two.

World newspapers report Hitler dead…were they wrong?

The claim that Hitler and some high-ranking Schutzstaffel (SS) officers escaped Germany and fled to South America is not new.

Nil Nikandrov observes (Strategic Culture Foundation, “All the Leaders of the Third Reich Fled to Latin America”): “In his well-documented, The Hitler Survival Myth (1981), Donald McKale identifies the earliest source of the myth of Hitler’s escape to the southern hemisphere as the unexpected surrender of a German submarine in early July 1945 at Mar del Plata, Argentina.

“Several Buenos Aires newspapers, in defiance of Argentine Navy statements, said that rubber boats had been seen landing from it, and other submarines spotted in the area.

“On July 16, 1945, the Chicago Times carried a sensational article on the Hitlers having slipped off to Argentina.”

July 16, 1945: Chicago Times reports Hitler fled to South America

The Hitler-in-Argentina tale first surfaced in a book back in 1947

“Ladislao Zsabó, a Hungarian advertiser, witnessed the arrival of the U-530 and saw its crew disembarking. He had heard that the destination was the German Antarctica and, mistakenly, made a supposition that Hitler had escaped to Antarctica, and published the book Hitler está Vivo (Hitler is Alive), where he speaks about the possible location of Hitler, in Queen’s Maud properties, opposite the Weddel Sea, that was then renamed Neuschwabenland, when the area was explored in 1938/39 by the German expedition [led] by Captain Ritschter.

Brick from wall of Nazi complex in Patagonia

“Zsabó made the wrong assumption.

“Had he read the book by Professor Hugo Fernandez Artucio published in 1940, Nazis en el Uruguay, (Nazis in Uruguay) he would had discovered that there actually was a plan referring to German Antarctica, but this was nothing but the term they used for the Patagonia and that this information had been made public in New York in 1939.” [Nil Nikandrov]

‘Eagle’s Nest” stonework on wall of German complex, Argentina.

Basti doggedly digs deeper

When there’s so much smoke there’s usually a fire. Basti tracked down that fire during seven years of sometimes grueling investigations.

Author-journalist Abel Basti holds copy of his bestselling book

He personally visited German compounds surrounded by security and stern-faced guards, interviewed surviving witnesses in villages near the strongholds, and even obtained authenticated photographs of Hitler and Braun during their exile years.

Alleged photo of Adolf and Eva with daughter Urich in Argentina

“Basti wrote that A. Hitler, E. Braun, and Führer’s closest aides flew from the burning Berlin to Spain…and then crossed the Atlantic Ocean by three submarines and reached Argentina.

“In July-August, 1945 Hitler and his clique landed in the Rio Negro province near the Caleta de los Loros village and moved on further into Argentine.

“Allegedly, the same secret route prepared by SS chief Himmler’s staff was later used by Bormann, Mengele, and Eichmann.

“Basti detailed the journey of A. Hitler and E. Braun across Argentina assisted by local Nazi sympathizers and described the couple’s family life during which—despite the hardships of hiding—they even had children.”

Alleged photo of Hitler in disguise, Buenos Aires meeting, 1952

Stonewalling Soviets

The Soviets weren’t helpful on the matter of the German leader’s death.

“The Soviets continued to be difficult. They refused to allow Westerners into Berlin even after the surrender of Dönitz’s government and the last armies in the field on May 7-9. On May 10, they announced the existence of the burned bodies in the Chancellory courtyard, but only allowed that one might be Hitler. The same report went on to say that his body might never be found.

“On June 6, a spokesman for the Soviet army in Berlin announced unequivocally that Hitler had committed suicide and that his body had been identified. Three days later, Marshall Zhukov, the head of the Soviet army gave a press conference with Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Vishinski looking over his shoulder. ‘We did not identify the body of Hitler,’ he said. ‘I can say nothing definite about his fate. He could have flown away from Berlin at the very last moment.’” [Nil Nikandrov ]

Interview with Basti

In an interview on Deadline – Live, an Argentine news program, journalist Santiago Romero interviewed Abel Basti about Hitler’s escape, life in Patagonia, and the events that followed World War Two. ["Hitler huyó a la Patagonia en un submarino que zarpó desde Vigo" Edited.]

Romero: What is your opinion on Hitler’s escape?

Basti: “Hitler escaped via air from Austria to Barcelona. The last stage of his escape was in a submarine, from Vigo, heading straight to the coast of Patagonia. Finally, Hitler and Eva Braun, in a car with a chauffeur and bodyguard—a motorcade of at least three cars—drove to Bariloche (Argentina).

“He took refuge in a place called San Ramon, about 15 miles east of that town. It is a property of about 250,000 acres with a lake-front view of Lake Nahuel Huapi, which had been German property since the early twentieth century, when it belonged to a German firm by the name of Schamburg-Lippe.”

An alleged Hitler family home: Hacienda San Ramon

Romero: “On what basis do you claim that Hitler was in Spain after leaving his Berlin bunker?”

Basti: “I was able to confirm the presence of Hitler in Spain thanks to a—now elderly—Jesuit priest, whose family members were friends of the Nazi leader. And I have witnesses that allude to meetings he had with his entourage at the place where they stayed in Cantabria.

Mr. and Mrs Hitler in Spain before voyage to Patagonia

“In addition, a document of the British secret services reveals that in those days, a Nazi submarine convoy left Spain, and after stopping in the Canary Islands, it continued its journey to the south of Argentina.

“Hitler and Eva Braun traveled onboard one of these submarines, which later arrived in Patagonia between July and August of 1945, under the de facto President Edelmiro Farrell and later Juan Domingo Peron, then his Minister of War. There is also another important document mentioning that the FBI was looking for Hitler in Spain after World War II.”

Romero: “From where did he leave to Patagonia?”

Basti: “All the evidence points to the Galician coast, which was a significant base of supplies for Nazi submarines during the Battle of the Atlantic, to the extent that Churchill considered the possibility of invading it—an action that was scrapped when they built the code-breaking “Enigma” machine and managed to decipher Nazi submarine fleet messages and the course of submarine warfare was reversed.

“There is the possibility that he left from Vigo or Ferrol, but it is almost certain that he did from Vigo, according to Britain’s MI6.”

Romero: “What was Hitler’s life in Argentina like?”

Basti: “Hitler lived as a fugitive with his wife and his bodyguard. His first years were in Patagonia, and then he lived in the more northern provinces [of Argentina].

“In the early years, he held meetings in different parts of Argentina, and with other Nazis in Paraguay, as well as with sympathizers from foreign countries.

“He shaved his head and mustache, so he was not easily recognizable. He lived away from large urban areas, although he had a few meetings in Buenos Aires. He died in the sixties in Argentina.

“I’m currently investigating where he was buried and how he lived his last days.”

Romero: “Did you have access to documents from the former Soviet Union?”

Basti: “Until his death in 1953, Stalin always believed that Hitler had escaped. In 1945, Stalin told the Allies this same information. There are three different shorthand writings in which Stalin mentioned that the German leader had fled.

“In Argentina, I have interviewed people who had seen and met with Hitler. In the Russian archives, there is abundant documentation that shows that Hitler had escaped.”

Romero: “How did your book impact the official story of Hitler’s death?”

Basti: “Despite the recent investigations that proved that Hitler’s remains at the Kremlin in Russia did not belong to him, most Russians have always rejected the theory that he escaped. The same applies to the nations involved in the war.

“The U.S. has just reclassified [under national security auspices] for 20 [more] years all official material related to this story, and when that deadline is met, it will probably be reclassified.

“The British reclassified all related documentation for 60 more years. The researchers cannot access that information.”

Link to original article in Spanish.

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We need to start asking the *right* question – What is a sustainable population level that the current production+import capacity can support? And how do we get there?

Until that happens I see the Re trending to 100 / USD. You can guess what that does to price levels in India.
(Outsourcing as the means to support the rupee is a flawed bet.)

Anyone who eludes this debate (ideal population level), is really leading a myopic assessment of the problem of inflation.

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Exactly! HT should change this title at once. It is a grave insult to the Japanese PM as well as to all rational individuals anywhere in the world. Is HT going to call an African dignitary a “Ni**er” next?? How about “Ch*nk” for a Chinese? Obviously not! The use of the word “Nip” should be held at the same standard.

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