Gig Season



A friend called up the other day to say he remembered me because he was in London and had just gone for a concert where Seun Kuti and his Egypt 80 band had played. “You wrote about Seun, remember? I just caught his concert and it was fabulous.”

I’m sure it was, I thought to myself, sitting here in the sweltering heat of Delhi where the mercury routinely hovers above the 40-degree mark during summer.

If you haven’t yet heard The National’s album, Boxer, then you’re certainly missing something!

If you haven’t yet heard The National’s album, Boxer, then you’re certainly missing something!

The thing is summer’s the season for rock and pop music concerts across the US and Europe. That’s when most bands become itinerant troupes, moving from venue to venue or even playing at the mushrooming numbers of music festivals that feature exciting line-ups.

Every year, this is the time I feel more than just a twinge of despair. All my favourite bands are out on tours performing live at venues that I can’t hope to travel to. Blame it, among a whole host of things, on a day job that’s thousands of miles away from those venues.

I think attending live performances is the best way to enjoy bands and musicians that you love and not being able to do that is a deprivation that’s hard to come to terms with.

But there’s a way out. And it has to do with the Internet. Increasingly, bands are adopting the Internet to reach out to listeners, spreading their music to potential audiences—and, with some luck, future buyers of their albums—by putting their music up on the net, either for streaming or even for downloads, usually free.

Some organisations, including radio stations like America’s National Public Radio (NPR) help in this endeavour. On NPR’s website, you can access a huge archive of concerts—some that can be downloaded, others that can be streamed.

Last week, I downloaded a full two-hour concert by Okkervil River. An indie rock band from Austin, Texas (a hot town that has thrown up many great bands), Okkervil River are what I’d call a very literate band. Frontman Will Sheff sings songs with meaningful, sometimes profound, lyrics and the sound is a blend of rock and folk. Okkervil River are over ten years and five or six full-length albums old and I’d liked one of their newer releases, Stage Names, when I heard it in early 2008. But when I heard them live (via the download), I was enthralled. And hooked.

I’ve never seen one of my favourite bands, Radiohead, live and I’m not sure that I will. But I simply went to NPR’s website and downloaded a full concert that they did last year while promoting their latest album, In Rainbows.

The NPR website has live treasures that can keep your ears occupied endlessly. On May 3 this year, an AIDS benefit concert was organised in New York City, featuring artists like The National, a melodious Ohio band (if you haven’t heard their album, Boxer, you’re missing something), David Byrne, formerly of Talking Heads, Feist, Bon Iver and many others. By the end of May, the concert was up on the website—free. The list of concerts on NPR’s directory is too huge to reproduce here. But if you are a fan of new music, whatever genre it is that gives you your kicks, that’s a destination you cannot afford to miss.

If your tastes veer towards older bands, including ones that aren’t around any more, you could also try another great website for live music. At Tauthal, the homepage says the site wants to “provide you with a large variety of live music for both streaming and download”.

Download the broadcast of Counting Crows.

Download the broadcast of Counting Crows.

The site offers gigs from a huge range of bands. It’s all free but none of it is an official release—no official live or studio albums are on offer but what is there can be overwhelming. I downloaded an excellent recording of a 1994 concert by early American indie band, Pavement, one of the first underground bands that became popular without the help of a big-label music company. Pavement began in 1989 or 1990 but broke up just ten years later (although one of its main stars, Stephen Malkmus, is still active with other projects). On Tauthal, you can find bands as diverse as The Allman Brothers, Eels, Nirvana and Red Hot Chili Peppers. Looking for Paul Simon? There are two concerts in the Tauthal archive. Or maybe you want to check out a 1967 concert that jazz legend Miles Davis played at the Philharmonie in Berlin? Or, like me, if you sometimes yearn for retro rock of the trippy kind, check out Little Feat’s 1975 concert at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta, Georgia. That’s right, Lowell George was still alive and the band rocked that night. (P.S. It’s also one of the concerts on Tauthal that you can not only stream but also download… for free!)

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  • suzy

    Hey, what Okkervil River concert did you download and from where did you get it? Down the Obliuette (sp?)?

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  • Anonymous

    I think Anil Kapoor is simpleton about nature of man. His observation of rich of western countries and poor of India is superficial.Can anybody study deep deep unconscious mind of man.What man speak or tell in interview is mostly lie.Man id s hypocritical animal he never disclosed his true nature mostly he also don’t know what he want. He changes his mind moment to moment.In this circumstances how can anybody read the mind of others?

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Wow – uptill now it was understood as politicians coming in the way of the military’s plan to attack Pakistan after Parliament came under attack and the May 2001 incident. Per the author, it turned out that at one time the Army was not quite promptly mobilised and the second time the airforce was uder-prepared. I don’t think now the Pakistani terrorists are going to provide the Indian Army with an opportunity to attack Pakistan, though their mischief knows no bounds, as 26/11 was a great provocation indeed. At that time, US interests took precedence over Indian hurt. Next time, if at all God Forbid any such provocation occurrs, I hope our Army & Air Force would not be caught napping – and the US would not be there as a spoil sport. No wise person wants a war, but **** terrorists must be taught a very good lesson for sure.

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  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3J34VOUONTK3EKEGVNIAYIEFTE shq13

    How sad and Pathetic that India and Pakistan can kill millions of people just because of few nut cases.
    I guess the real Mastahs had this very well planned when they divided us along religious and ethnic lines.
    Wake up people before it is too late. If you need an enemy to fight,there are many like Poverty, Ignorance, Environment, etc etc.

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    engrich Reply:

    wars did not happen because 85%bahujans who are creator of wealth wqant peace.brhmncl hate spewing and war cry has no taker in rular india.

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  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2EEEO3IWUNFJIR5HTH7MDTZ5EE ParminderS

    Not really! Did they know before hand about Pokharan2 ?
    They did not.
    India has been able to keep a lot of secret where it has to.
    Let the book come out and see whether there are going to be any denials, may be they will keep mum.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/nischal.sepahiya Nischal Sepahiya

    War is must now for India. No matter nuclear war. Lets our generation suffer for next 50 years. But there will be peromane solution for world. Lets remove pak out of world map and make one one bangladesh or give it to afhganistan. ISI and Pak army need a lession. No economy, no food, no education and daring to fight agaisnt India. Cut therie private parts and make them actiual HIZDA

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000559516830 Maina Cpk Sadiya

    Yes he was born in Sadiya sub division of Tinsukia district in eastern most part of Assam

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002582675712 Rocco Hunter

    WTF !! :-/

    according to wt basis is d fiesta worst performer ???
    it has got luks, performance, handling, built quality, gud avg .
    jus bcoz its priced at a bit high price doesnt means dat its an worst performer
    dear writer,
    i think according to u, best cars are bad design, bad handling, poor safety, poor built qualtiy n GOOD MILEAGE + LOW PRICING = BEST CAR !

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Good – as long as the USA is in our neighborhood, we must keep up this dignified, state-to-state talks. No need to be cowed down by China, as maintaining of peace is in everybody’s interest, not just of India & Indians.

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  • Anonymous

    When I say the new Chief of Air Staff, N. A. K. Browne, is a CIA-RAW man, I mean he literally sits at CIA-supplied terminals to participate in crimes against India. More than a thousand Indian Air Force aircraft have crashed since 1970, the vast majority of the crashes caused by microwaves from U. S. satellites which can hack into and operate any digital equipment. In his first week in office as Chief of Air Staff, Browne caused two Indian Air Force fighter planes to crash with microwaves from satellites, to give a boost to his bid to buy worse than worthless foreign aircraft for several tens of billions of dollars of which he will get a hefty cut along with the Defence Minister and the Italian woman who gets the largest cut. The Sukhoi crash on Dec. 13 ‘11 and the grounding of the Sukhoi fleet has been caused 2 days ahead of the purchase decision as the purchase was made impossible by my opposition to it. See IndianAirForcePilotsMurderDOTblogspotDOTcom . //I said on October 11 ‘11 ( GaddafiCrimeDOTblogspotDOTcom ) that the ’suicide’ of the chief test pilot Baldev Singh was murder, to facilitate the claim of the fraudulent ‘delay’ in inducting the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft, being used to justify the worse than worthless purchase abroad. India builds Sukhoi-30 MKI aircraft from raw materials; why do you need to buy fighter aircraft from abroad? [At this, A. K. Antony said on November 23 '11 that the Sukhoi-30 MKI assembly line can only make 16 aircraft per year. Why couldn't you set up another assembly line? As soon as I asked this question, the report in Deccan Herald was changed by RAW to eliminate the reference to assembly line limitation and a reference to a Sukhoi-30MKI crash in April '09 -- its first ever -- was inserted instead, having him say that the Indian Air Force will continue to use the Sukhoi-30MKI despite the crash along with the new aircraft to be bought from abroad and the Light Combat aircraft. The Sukhoi crash on Dec. 13 '11 has been caused 2 days ahead of the purchase decision as the purchase was made impossible by my opposition to it.] N. A. K. Browne, A. K. Antony and the Italian woman should be booked for the murder of Baldev Singh along with the head of RAW. All former heads of RAW should be booked for the murders of hundreds of Indian Air Force pilots. //Integrated Circuit chips made in the United States are required to provide for access to the United States National Security Agency so it can monitor and take control of their operations at will. Components and electronic equipment from the United States should be absolutely “haram”; far from lamenting ‘technology denial’, equipment from the United States should be rejected even if it is offered on a platter and free of charge as I have said. India’s bought-up Defence, Atomic Energy, Space and other officials deliberately close their eyes to this threat. This also applies to U. S.- made civilian aircraft, for example. There are two hundred thousand Indian engineers and scientists working in Research & Development for foreign companies in India but instead of putting its money in Research & Development ( in my letter dated January 5, 2004 to the press — see my blog — I had suggested one million Research & Development workers in India in government-sponsored projects), India’s CIA-RAW government buys foreign equipment in all fields to keep India poor, weak and enslaved. India’s government lends hundreds of billions of dollars to the U. S. government in exchange for worthless U. S. paper but seeks foreign investment and World Bank loans for projects in India, giving ownership and control of India to India’s enemies, despite the unlimited capital available to India by simply printing the money; see ‘How India’s Economy Can Grow 30% Per Year Or More’ in my blog; as is described there, the United States has been applying my proposal about money by stealth and now also openly but Manmohan Singh refuses to do so because this bugger — a CIA appointee — does what serves the United States’, not India’s, interests. //When Atal Behari Vajpayee was prime minister, he had once gone to Bombay and spoken to the stock exchange about applying my proposal about money to India’s economy, after which he had to abort his flight back to Delhi for fear his plane will crash. The murders of several politicians by air crash have been accomplished by microwaves from satellites. A recent example was the murder of the Andhra Pradesh chief minister by air crash. In my blog I have described how Indira Gandhi when prime minister in 1980 went to her kitchen with the then U. S. Vice President and former CIA Director, George Herbert Walker Bush, to arrange for the murder by air crash of her son Sanjay Gandhi who had taken to slapping her in the presence of others under my influence and the then CIA Director, Frank Carlucci, publicly claimed credit for that air crash via a letter that appeared in National Review. //In a press release dated January 10, 2011 I said: Stealth or no-stealth, 5th generation or 4th generation, fighter aircraft are as obsolete for India’s defence as bows and arrows. They can be used against neighbors such as Pakistan and China but the United States is EVERYBODY’S neighbor. It has already invaded and occupied Afghanistan, a part of traditional India and will expand its occupation to the rest of the subcontinent. I am India’s expert in strategic defence, the father of India’s strategic program including the Integrated Guided Missile Development Program and the world’s greatest scientist (my biography is in Marquis’ Who’s Who in the World, 2011 and earlier editions). The U.S. invasion of Afghanistan means the coast-to-coast destruction of the U.S. by India; see my blog titled ‘Nuclear Supremacy for India Over U.S.’, which can be found by a Yahoo search with the title, for what India needs to do. Russia and other white countries are U.S. allies. These are the enemies to destroy. All other enemies will be taken care of automatically. Conventional arms are worthless for destroying the United States. Nuclear arms to destroy the United States with a FIRST STRIKE — this is the key — are cheap and easy to produce with technology India already has. All the money earmarked for fighter aircraft etc., and more, must be pumped into research, development and production of missiles able to deliver India’s nuclear warheads — in the thousands — to the continental United States. India’s missile scientists & engineers should have tested such missiles to their full range decades ago — everything else, including short and intermediate range missiles and missile defence, is secondary and tertiary — but have not done that because of prohibitions by India’s C.I.A.-controlled governments. This must be done on a war footing; the first step is to destroy RAW through which the C.I.A. rules India; see my blog. Producing such weapons in the thousands and very quickly is important. This means that the vast majority of them must be land-based, including road and rail-mobile, missiles rather than submarine-based which take a long time to produce.

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    RajX Reply:

    It looks like the CIA has fried your brain with a Satellite based microwave terminal. Hahahaha..funny guy.

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  • Anonymous

    Who paid Hindustan Times to retain the likes of Menon to write for it on very imortant issues such as what ought to be our foreign policy vis a vis China? And how much?

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  • Anonymous

    Oops ,I meant ‘important’. in my earlier comment..

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  • Probhat Sukla

    One of Bengal’s premier satirist once wrote about the difference between Indian Brains and Western Brains. In that essay, he wrote that Indian brains are very “fine” compared to the Western Brains which are “thick”. From this article I find that Shiv Shanker’s brain is so “fine” that none, including the crafty Chinese fails to divine that.

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  • Anonymous

    Mallu and Punjabi hybrid…Extreme cunningness fused..nice breed.

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  • Sharma_r81

    Totally disagree. India has always axed its captains whenever it lost overseas… and it was always counter-productive. Lets instead face the truth. We suck in away matches. A green pitch makes us see red. We are tigers at home and mice away. So lets not blame only the captain. Lets look within and at the BCCI, which despite years of bitter experience has refused to make fast pitches on which our local teams can practice.

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  • Anonymous

    Our players can only be made to perform only if-
    1. BCCI fine them 100% of match fee for every loss (the players who underperformed)
    2. Ban underperforming players from playing in IPL.
    3. Ban underperforming players from signing any commercial deal.

    These guys don’t perform because they know money is raining for them in India in the form of IPL and ads.

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  • http://twitter.com/pinky12j Suressh

    While every one lauds the valor, honor and integrity of the general, they have also forgot to reckon with the same integrity and honor with which Antony the minister too associated with, and he would not grudge to give whatever is due to a person, let alone the general. So now the matter is subjudice would wish the media and journos keep away in opining on the subject, till the court decides.

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  • Javed

    hey dumba88 seeing a lot of muck from you for the army chief lately. Pls kindly care to explain – if both of them are of high integrity and are men in charge of their respective areas – then who else has the power to do mischief?? dont you think this is serious & bad reflection on the govt?

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  • Javed

    very informative article in comparision with shallow unresearched edits on this subject from HT itself

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  • (Dr.) B.N. Anand

    Yes, it was indeed a pleasure to go through this article as a matter of fact. But it’s accuracy has been challenged by one of the fellow blogger who disputes about what the author says about Gen. Bikram Singh being related to the PM. The author needs to clarify it.
    BNA

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  • Anonymous

    Do we see ominous sign of Civillian-Military fight? Will we see a coup one day when like of Laloo and Sonia will be hauled up in military court? Just thinking loud…

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  • Kumars1

    The politicians and bereaucrats have a chip on their shoulder and an inferiority complex where army men are concerned. Therefore these scumbags never miss an oppurtunity to humiliate army people. They humiliated upright heroes like General Thimayya and Field Marshal Manekshaw among others. They praise Bin Laden as ‘Osamaji’. The megalomaniac Krishna Menon, defence minister under Nehru, used to call the Army Chief for 4am meetings for silly reasons. He and Nehru caused the army’s defeat in 1962 by their shoddy mishandling.

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  • Anonymous

    UPA II has faux passed all its governance in the last 3 years.It has abdicated its responsibility in 2G scam CWG scam Adarsh Scam and now the army chief age problem.PM is statue in PMs house.He is not taking any action himself but doing all his talks by promptings by sonia.DM is under sonia.The issue of age of COAS is a issue which should have solved by PM himself but as he didnot took any decision huimself it is made muddy.Now SC would have to say whatever it likes but damage has been done 2 army and govt.

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  • Balaji Kartha

    Maybe I am not too smart, but I still don’t get it! This “honor” part of the General. Throughout his career he went along on one age, got his promotions & medals on this age and now he suddenly wants the government to say he is actually a year younger – and that his ‘honor’ depends on that?!
    What is the man upto?!

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  • Kulwinder Singh

    If the correct date of birth of Gen V K Singh is May 10,1951 as contended by the Law Ministry as well as the general himself, Gen VK Singh was most probably not eligible, being under age for appearing in the NDA Exam in 1965. UPSC Need to examine the issue and clarify. It appears that wrong date was entered in the application form for NDA with the aim to make him eligible for the exam.”

    It should be clarified as to the age limits criteria for entry into the NDA in 1965, i.e., if the DOB (Year) is claimed to be 1951, did this date come within limits? If not then the General is probably guilty of entering the army by fraudulent means. Was the DOB not compared with the Matriculation Certificate by the UPSC ? If not the UPSC officials should also be punished U/S 120-B IPC. We have to to first check this out.

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  • Bullysangha

    Having been placed in the situation where his integrity was in question Gen VKS did the right thing. However, I do believe that he should never have allowed the previous COAS to browbeat him in accepting a wrong DOB. His written acceptance will be the negative factor.
    Sangha

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  • Anonymous

    Two things that clearly emerge are that there is a lobby that would like to see vk singh retire earliest and second that MOD is also part of this lobby. As the article brings out this lobby is of corrupt like kapoor and others who are working with arms dealers and land mafias. Some of people in MOD are also on their payroll and hence the problem. The rot needs to be stemmed and efforts made by General Singh have been laudatory on this front. We must get after all the corrupt to cleanse the army and expose bad hats in MOD. All details available on age issue are clearly indicating deep malaise in MOD and machinations by two chiefs as also PMO. We should all pray that the supreme court gives a kick to all corrupt in army, MOD and PMO.

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  • arun

    The dilution is because of ‘Bureaucratic Control’ a la “Yes Minister”. Bold decisions, require political will which is conspicuous by its absence due to “coalition dharma”.

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  • Probhat Sukla

    I fully agree with the author. Present day parents are responsible for the production of pansies from the school system. They fill their childrens’ pockets with cash, and teach them to behave impudently with good and strict teachers. Very soon India will be producing totally ignorant high-school graduates like the North American school system. Incidentally, in my opinion co-ed schools are also responsible for the low standards. Boys and girls should only have co-ed classes at the University level, when they are much more mature.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6T7JL6TUN22UAD7NSR774A44PQ Anonymous

    I do not agree to this. I’ve seen how we Indians behave meekly because of our upbringing. Our education system does not allow pupils to think of their own mind but to prepare them for rat race. How much innovation do we have in India? How many people think out of box to bring something on world stage? How many patents do we file? I do not think canning pupils brings discipline but fear. I was never canned but I still love my teachers. We need to let the children develop their own mind so that they can be different than us. We need to guide them with our experience but let them play with fire till then do not endanger themselves or others around it. The current anti corruption wave has lot of youngsters in it. This is only because this young generation has not followed us keeping heads down. @Abu lets stick to point.

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  • Vishal Kale

    Great point, Arnab. However, there is one additional consideration. There is a very material difference between now and 20 years ago: the social norms were different, the pressures on students and teachers’ alike were different, parents approach was different. This problem is more of a social problem than one relating to schools. Take me, for example: I would be very, very, very angry if corporal punishment was used on my child – I would definitely consider punitive action like complaining to the principle etc. But I am perfectly ok with other disciplinary measures being adopted. You have to understand that not every child reacts the same way, you have to understand the child and consider how will this punishment effect the behaviour we want to change? This requires parents and teachers as equal participants! Unfortunately, there is little parent – teacher interaction. And whatever little there interaction happens focuses on academics!

    Parents and Teachers alike do not understand that marks – especially in Nursery – 7/8th classes – are not the determinants of success. You should be focusing on the child’s behaviour, social interaction, participation, habits, fundamental understanding of the topic. But in place of this we place inordinate emphasis on marks, and neglect the first warning signals of problematic behaviour! This way, you can catch bad behaviour before they become a habit. What is required is proper training for teachers and re-invigoration of the system to reflect modern realities

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  • http://www.currency.com.pk/ Exchange rate

    haha, that is interestingly interesting, so true yet !!

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  • Abu Ahmed

    The Madrasa teaches theology, Quran, Science, Maths & English whereas the Shakhas teach how to kill Muslims thats the big difference, amongst several others, between a Madrasa and a RSS Shakha.
    You are hurt, for which I am sorry. Fact is the RSS is spreading militancy all over the country through their Shakhas and it is reflected in minor and major incidents of intolerance occurring everywhere.

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  • Rakesh katyal

    NIA is only trying to please its political masters by setting up confessions from people like kamal Chouhan. You doubt it but we are certail these are frameups to help Congress in UP.

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  • Anonymous

    May be but not of Rahul Gaandhy anyway! [Incidentally, this spelling of surname with 7 (seven) alphabets will bring a lot of good fortunes in his political career, but the question is will he listen and change his?]

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  • http://twitter.com/tlverma T L Verma

    ” Ibtdai Ishq hai rota hai kiya , aage aage dekhiye hota hai kiya “. This is just the beginning. Many such exposures should be there if we see the past trend of the year.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WH4VQ5LEB4I7TE2YNDXG5AWAH4 Khagaraj

    If the homosexuals give up their ‘ in your face’ attitude and missionary kind proselytizing,they would be pretty nice guys.

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    Karan Thakur Reply:

    I agree. I’m still being pretty nice and obeying almost every rule, law religion where as see for yourself my homophobic friends… :-P

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  • http://twitter.com/BootLadyTeri23 Teri Horne

    Re: The rising number of rapes.

    Are the numbers rising, or is it that women feel more confident in REPORTING sexual assaults? If it’s the latter, while still horrible they were attacked, it’s a sign of a progressing society.

    What happens in the bedrooms of consenting adults should not be legislated by governments or religions. If you want to live in a free and equal society, you have to learn tolerance.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Educational advancement and economic progress would make our society tolerant and humane in time. Its good that the courts have pushed the envelope so some extent.

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  • Karan Thakur

    Its like you’re not aware of truth of your very own culture Go to Wikipedia and visit the places and temples and sites which shows Homosexual Practices in older Hindu religion. Search more, to know more, because less knowledge is always a dangerous knowledge

    And anyhow, Someone being homosexual cant express his sexuality even in locked doors with their lovers means Violation of Right to Expression/Speech/PRIVACY.

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  • Karan Thakur

    Exactly, I agree they should’ve written more supportive examples. Anyhow, I still appreciate HT(Hindustan Times) for spreading awareness. And we always have sites like Wikipedia to guide us with even better examples.. and real sights, place, temples, etc.

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  • Karan Thakur

    Its a way of Nature and Nature made Homosexuals & Heterosexuals.
    Go read about Homosexuality in Nature. You’ll get to see that Nature not only made Human Beings as Homo/Heterosexuals, there are over 1000s of species of animals too, and still counting.

    Link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

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  • Karan Thakur

    Yes, it does… and over 10+ friend’s family too support it :-D

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  • Karan Thakur

    Somebody, wants to see personal issues by ignoring the mass affect happening to Homosexual ppl out there. Baby they were born that way. And There is nothing wrong with it. Go up and read my other posts+links.

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  • Karan Thakur

    Because they’re our god and they thought us the way of life and we must follow that… And There is nothing wrong with being Gay :-)

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  • Karan Thakur

    Totally, senseless and baseless comment… :-)
    My dear its nothing like this…

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  • Karan Thakur

    Gods/Gurus came to show us the right path and to enlighten us,
    Not become rigid and narrow minded and life always teaches something new.

    “Human Being is all about Evolution, not stagnation.
    Religion was also meant for making human civilized not rigid”.

    And No Religion/Culture reads being homosexual is wrong, be it any religion.

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  • Fatima Hossain

    all you can do is criticize! india is no saint either.!

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  • Gyan

    PM should not have met Zardari, as this wasn’t his political visit. It was just a pilgrim tour. India is a emotional fool, expecting lot of things from a loser.

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  • Gt12563

    We know Mr.Zaradari has no real power and he is living on the mercy of so called strong army man Kayani.He lives always in fear that coup can happen any time and just collecting corrupt money more and more.After becoming President Mr.10% rate has gone up.He did nothing good for his people and they are fed from his adminstration and want change.But for India there is no hope to resolve any of issue with this PPP president.My guess is his days seems to be over.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Some in Pakistan like the LeT and many others are beasts; like our very own Sangh Parivar goupies viz the Bajrang Dal, Ram Sene etc etc.. We cannot kill those beasts, for that would mean killing millions. So the next best thing to do is try to tame them. Now this taming of the beast business is a very long drawn, time consuming and patience-testing one. One has to weild the stick as well as dangle the carrot before them. This is how the US is dealing with Pakistan – culling as well as carassing the target population. One cannot boycott or remain ignorant of a next door neighbour – whatever happens over there impacts us too like earthquakes, floods or cyclones as well as bouts of violence and incidence of extreme poverty and ill-health. Therefore PM Singh is handling the neighbours with the right amount of carassing – we always do the culling when required while calling ourselves peaceful (thats our Chankayaneeti – when our atomic-bomb tests are successful we encode it by declaring the incidence as Buddha smiled – how deadly can be this Buddha’s smile is not hidden from any body). So trade, culture and sports are the tools of taming that we have to use – and when push comes to shove then the Pakistanis have learnt it the hard way many a times that we can beat the shit out of them. Deal with Pakistan from a position of power and strength and yet in a tolerant manner – for that is the way to tame the beast.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/bhargesh.ved Bhargesh Ved

    Dear HT,

    You should not post mortem the brilliance of the show, be humble and learn something.
    The whole nation is learning its not such a bad ’show’ as you refer to it.
    SMJ’s and Aamirs heart and mind are in the right place. Their efforts are commendable.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/bhargesh.ved Bhargesh Ved

    Totally Agree :)
    Aamir isnt a show prop, hes a change agent

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sumanth-Chandra/1291973406 Sumanth Chandra

    70% of dowry death cases are false. The law itself is wrongly defined. The law says, if any woman dies within 7 years of marriage, then it is dowry death. It is suicide of married men (not women) that is continuously rising (look at NCRB data). When men commit suicide due to false cases or torture by wife and in-laws, no arrests are made and no FIRs are registered.

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  • Lines Flight

    Ridiculous arguments.

    1) Jyoti Basu brushed off the rape of Anita Dewan in a crass and insensitive manner. So, that allows Ms. Banerjee to do the same thing? What then differentiates her from Mr. Basu? They seem to be cut from the same piece of cloth!

    2) If the TMC government blames the previous administration for everything, then to whom should currently affected citizens go to for redress. Assuming executive political power comes with a baggage of responsibilities. Ms. Banerjee and her party need to realize that agitational politics ends when powers of government are assumed by a political party. Nothing that Ms. Banerjee or her party has done inspires any confidence in these matters.

    3) The assertion that just because no one raised a hue and cry about attacks on TMC political workers by the then Left Government, the same should be the case when TMC workers attack CPIM workers is just crass. This is the politics of revenge. Is this the ethic of the TMC?

    Let’s get real!

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  • Anonymous

    Didi’s swing to the extreme right is not remedy to Basu’s swing to extreme Left. Neither optimism, nor pessimism but realism must be helped to prevail. For that Mamatha needs good friends in the media and NGO groups to put her in touch with harsh realities. Who will bell the cat? The Onchiyam murder exploding in Kerala unravels the real face of our Marxists and their tacticks to usher in the peace of the cemetry through the barrel of the gun.

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  • AshishC

    Arnab Mitra laments the allegedly “strong influence of Marxists among the journalists”- would he count Bartaman, Anandabazar etc among the Marxist influenced papers?
    This is the most third rate analysis I have seen coming from a national newspaper’s editorial staff. Of course, Mr Mitra might justify his brain freeze on an education system right royally screwed up by the CPM. Or, is the Hindustan Times threatened by not being on the “approved list” of newspapers in public libraries?
    I have no sympathy left for the people of West Bengal- they really deserve their rulers. As if suffering 34 years of left front rule was not enough, they bring in Mamata- with protectionist, left of left instincts (let’s not glorify them by calling it an ideology) and essentially demonstrated clueless-ness in running an administration- remember her stint as Railway minister?
    The criticism against Mamata’s insensitive comments are as much a comment on her lack of sensitivity as lacking any idea about how to go about doing her work.
    The tragedy is not Mamata or CPM; the real tragedy is the people of “Waste Bengal”- and their (as Nirode Chaudhuri would say) “atma-ghati”- suicidal instincts.

    As an aside, the real comic element was in the this line: “We watched patiently as the CPI(M)-led Left Front completely destroyed a vibrant state over 34 years.”
    Really? West Bengal was a vibrant state in 1977? It’s not tobacco that I smell here.

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  • Abhijit Phadke

    Chetan, your article contains quite a few important points, but its written from the perspective of a person who has studied and delved deeper into the issue. Why not think about it from the layman’s perspective?
    Aamir’s show has a very diverse audience. There are many in our country who don’t even read the daily newspapers, and are not aware of what happens around them. This show creates awareness about issues and that’s very important.

    So even though the show may have been uninspiring for you because of being an insider who has knowledge about the issue, why not applaud it for being inspiring for those who knew nothing about the issue before the show was aired?

    I wrote a very detailed article on my blog which contains review, suggestions and the way ahead. Here’s the link to it.
    http://positiveindians.in/satyamev-jayate-review-suggestions-and-the-way-ahead/

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  • Abhijit Phadke

    Chetan, your article contains quite a few important points, but its written from the perspective of a person who has studied and delved deeper into the issue. Why not think about it from the layman’s perspective?
    Aamir’s show has a very diverse audience. There are many in our country who don’t even read the daily newspapers, and are not aware of what happens around them. This show creates awareness about issues and that’s very important.

    So even though the show may have been uninspiring for you because of being an insider who has knowledge about the issue, why not applaud it for being inspiring for those who knew nothing about the issue before the show was aired?

    I wrote a very detailed article on my blog which contains review, suggestions and the way ahead. Here’s the link to it.
    http://positiveindians.in/satyamev-jayate-review-suggestions-and-the-way-ahead/

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  • Bala Goli

    Completely agree, this dumb writer needs help.
    1. Very jealous 2. He had no clue what he was scribbling 3. Completely biased
    This is the first time i visited HT site and swear never to return back. May some commonsense be bestowed upon Chethan Chauhan. Chethan You are a classic example of a bad indian.

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  • Suresh BV Bharadwaj

    Vladimir Putin, Lal Bahadur
    Shastri, Sir Sheshadri Iyer & Sir M Vishweshwarayya’s grand-sons Ravindra
    & DK Ravi, VS Acharya & BS Yeddyurappa (Churches were attacked; BSY was
    CM; VSA was HM), Rajat Gupta (made Indian companies globally competitive),
    Sanjay Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi (converted to Christianity but was the son of a
    Parsee Iranian Shia Muslim), Homi Jehangir Bhabha (a relative of Pakistan
    Founder Mohammad Ali Jinnah), Shah Rukh Khan (father is a Pakistani Muslim),
    Indira Gandhi (husband was the Parsee-Speaking Iranian Shia Muslim Firoz
    Jehangir Nawab Khan Ghandy; USA President Richard Nixon sent USA’s 7th Naval
    Fleet , carrying atom bombs, against India during 1971 Bangladesh war but
    India’s trusted friend Russia sent its own naval fleet to defend India &
    told USA that any USA war against India is a USA war against USSR; the furious
    & sadistic Richard Nixon ordered for the assassination of Indira Gandhi
    & her sons with the help of Non-Aryan European Christian male & female
    human bodies, GPS & REMOTE SENSING SATELLITE – NANO & BIO TECH SENSORS–NEURO
    IMAGER –OR – BODY SCANNER – NEURO SCIENCE – NEURO PHYSIOLOGICAL – NEUTO PSYCHIATRIC – NEURO & BODY CLINICAL
    TRIAL – NEURO PSYCHOLOGAL – BASED REMOTE BODY AREA NETWORKS (BAN), REMOTE MIND
    READING NETWORKS & REMOTE MIND CONTROL NETWORKS, REMOTE EVERY BODY PART TOUCHING,
    MASSAGING, ROMANCING, LENGTHENING, SHORTENING, MOLESTING & RAPING NETWORKS
    & REMOTE 24-HOURS-A-DAY TALKING, SINGING, SOUND BLASTING & SLEEP
    DEPRIVING NETWORKS) Rajesh Pilot (a PM prospect & a future rival),
    Jithendra Prasad (contested against the Non-Aryan European Italian Roman
    Catholic Christian Sonia Antonia Maino for President of Italian National
    Congress), Madhav Rao Scindia (a PM prospect), LTTE Prabhakaran, his sons,
    daughter & wife (make Sri Lankan Buddhists & Sri Lankan Hindu Tamils
    fight & weaken each other), Raja Ram Mohan Roy (failed to convert him to
    Christianity), Narendra Vivekananda Paramahamsa (attracted European Christian
    females, including the sexually promiscuous Margaret Isabella, who gave him STD
    disease), Ramakrishna Paramahamsa (tricked him into worshipping his traumatized
    wife as Goddess Kali) & Mahatma Gandhi (made to eat meat & hear sheep’s
    voices inside his brain; killed by the European Greek Christian Nathuram Godse,
    whose European Greek ancestors came to India during Alexander’s invasion &
    European Christian Crusade Wars against Jewish Rabbi Freedom Fighter Joshua
    Jesus Christ’s Jewish Israel & Muhammad’s Arabia), Netaji Subhash Chandra
    Bose (made to have sex with Non-Aryan European Christian God Adolph Hitler
    worshipping European German Christian woman), Aurobindo Ghose (did not allow his
    wife to join him in Pondicherry but he was coerced into having a live in relationship
    with a twice-divorced, sexually promiscuous French woman) & Jawaharhal
    Nehru (did not allow him to sleep until 3 am every day until he wrote to Mahatma
    killer & Non-Aryan European Greek Christian Nathuram Godse’s Greek
    Christian relative Edwina Mountbatten) were victims of the Non-Aryan European
    Christian & USA Conspiracy to monitor, manipulate & control Asian
    Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Burmese, Koreans & Nepalese. OM!

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  • Anonymous

    Only Jesus is the one and only true God. Read the bible to discover more. All others gods do not give you hope.

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    asif Reply:

    jesus was just a local village magician.

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    virginmary Reply:

    jesus was only a local village magician.

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  • Azim

    Why bringing God in discovery of this sub particle. It is created by Him for humans and if you have discovered it:good but why changing your attitude towards believe in God. Have more sense..

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  • javed

    boring and pretty shallow commentary. everyone is giving their 2p on this subject – there is a rat race on to show how intellectual one is, how different one can think, such is the peer pressure
    in that rat race, this is a pretty lack lustre performance

    discovery of higgs boson is a milestone scientifically – although given the challenges known to science it is not even a baby step. we are nowhere near answering ultimate questions of physical world let alone meta physical world. dont know what is the connection of god etc with it. and why all & sundry feel pressurized to take a stab at it

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  • whata crock

    God doesnt exist, so cant be “discovered”. The “god particle” is postulated to be the building block of the universe – not some imaginary being.

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  • Shaka Zulu

    There is nothing about this discovery that supports the extraordinary claim that a god or gods exist. It’s unfortunate that the nickname “god particle” misleads many believers. The fact is, to date, no field of science has uncovered any compelling evidence for a god. Gods may exist, of course, but at this time there are no sensible reason to think they do.

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  • Anonymous

    It appears — couple of stupids are advertising their stupidity. These stupids has no understanding about the word GOD. I bet they can not even spell GOD correctly.
    Remember, This is also happening by the will of God.

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  • Rishabh

    we may do our best to extend our reaach to god but god is beyond our limits.

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  • Prudent Injeeli

    Thank God, they did not call it Allah particle. Wonder how the Pakistanis and Islamists would have reacted. We certainly have been spared a lot of trouble.

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  • Tanmay

    Science is reasoning. God isn’t discovered by this discovery. He was only reasoned through the experiment. Every science experiment is for a better reason. The discovery of particle does explain points which are critical to mass and birth of heavenly bodies and thus universe.
    One still has to discover God by his own. Whichever religion you choose, whichever faith you follow, God will still be something to be discovered. As God is not only about how one become a mass of living thing, but also a big why?

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  • Praveen Misra

    Just one century back atom was the fundamental unit of element, later on electron, proton, quark came to light. So how scientists can say with finality that Higgs Boson is fundamental particle responsible for Universe.

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  • Yetindra

    My dear friend, it is only a name, a nickname rather. However scientists,being people who live in the society,also use terms which are fancy and catchy. Don’t put too much into it. The importance of Higgs Boson, the “God Particle” discovery is more scientific than anything to do with discovery of God. But then every scientific discovery may change or qualify the existing religious beliefs and that is nothng special to Higgs Boson. It has been so with the theory of relativity or discovery of atom etc.

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  • Rakesh Bhatnagar

    Read vedas’ and geeta to know what is God one leaf is not tree.
    what do you mean by left undiscovered it can be discovered only by the Muktas’ i.e. only by those who deserved Moksha. Raise your Karmas’ to that height. good luck.

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  • BRai

    There is only one GOD. Different names have been given by man n communities over a time. This GOD has created all the universes , galaxies.This experiment has discovered only one of the hidden secrets. Like this there are million and billion secrets still to be discovered. Every child is very happy to see something new in his life time. The same way , let this scientific community remain happy and busy in discovering more. let things happen and we watch as spectators as if seeing a movie.

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  • Robert George

    From time immemorial man has been putting his best efforts to
    prove the non-existence of God. The more he tries to prove with his obvious
    limitations, he sadly finds more evidence to support His existence. Humans’
    latest efforts to confine a mighty God to a sub-atomic particle seem be incomplete
    and inconclusive once again. Mahatma Gandhi once wrote: “God is smaller than an
    atom, but bigger than the Himalayas…” This sums up God’s greatness as well as
    nearness to everything He has created. A few decades ago, scientists had
    claimed that given sufficient knowledge they could solve all human problems.
    But over the decades, with the enormous growth of scientific knowledge, the
    problems have also more than doubled. What a paradox! Centuries ago, inspired
    by God, the Apostle Paul wrote: “…they did not like to retain God in their knowledge…”
    (Romans 1:28), and he explains further by saying: “…the existence of God is
    understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.” It
    would be wiser for scientists to direct their efforts towards constructive human
    development.

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  • Marx Dudek

    No. If God and religion cannot stand up to honest scientific scrutiny, then they should be relegated to the ash-heap of history – along with the atrocities committed through the centuries in their names.

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  • Dr.C.P.Trivedi

    Eureka
    moment in our life’s journey with God.

    The discovery of God particle; Higgs Boson is not
    new for India. The Indian Vedic Scientists and the seers have traced the same
    long back. It has been described as Creator; Vishvakarma in the Vedas.

    The discovery of God
    particle will open the key for interpretation of Vedas. The Vedic knowledge
    start with the discovery of God particle

    The building block of the creation is atom and the
    building block of the living-beings is DNA, which is universally present in the
    biological world.

    The highest truth of the creation is in three
    components of nature. They feed and operate the system without end.

    The modern Science has yet to touch this height.

    No one can deny the fact that the sun is the infinite source of
    elementary particles.

    The electromagnetic bond energy
    is responsible for synthesis and degradation with time. It maintains the
    equilibrium in the nature and natural components.

    The DNA with four bases is universally present in the living-beings.
    The immortal DNA is blue chip of life.

    The living-beings with cycle of rebirth and death have generated the
    infinite nature at their own with bio-geo-chemical cycle in the nature. It has
    been described in

    Rig.10-81-3,4
    and Rig.4-58-1,2,3,4

    The Scientists, who have the knowledge of the creation system, atom and
    DNA can understand it.

    It will give further direction to work on role of DNA in
    life that why two individuals have different DNA and fate in life? It can also
    explore further the mystery of Indus Valley.

    It has been expressed
    by Gods’tongue, nucleus of the atom is truly Amrita’s centre.

    FORTH from
    the ocean sprang the wave of sweetness: together with, the stalk it turned to
    Amrita.

    That which is
    holy oil’s mysterious title: but the Gods’ tongue is truly Amrita’s centre Rig.
    4-58-1

    An invisible field lying across the universe
    gives particles their mass, allowing them to clump together to form stars and
    planets.

    It has been described in the Vedas as Vishvakarma; the Creator that
    creation came into the existence from a fundamental energy, it has maintained
    its continuity in atom, molecules and matter, it has been expressed by He the Sole God, producing earth and
    heaven, weldeth them, with his arms as wings, together.Rig.10-81-3

    The bond energy of the atoms has been expressed, that
    it is just like his arm as wings, which bind the atoms. The space which has imparted gravity is omnipresent. It is present
    within us also.

    Ye thoughtful
    men enquire within your spirit whereon he stood when he established all things Rg.10-81-4

    It has been expressed that
    the sole God- fundamental energy has produced the creation, he is present
    everywhere, and within you also.

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  • rohit jain

    Nice post… Shows how well our govt is dealing with an alarming situation…

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  • KALYAN DHALL

    I beg to differ with Mr. Arnab Mitra on some basic fundamentals viz.
    1) For organised retail which stands to benefit the producer and the consumer, FDI is not mandatory. AMUL – GCMMF model is proof of that.
    2) Elimination of middle-men in today’s Indian society cannot be envisaged till the entire political culture of India undergoes a sea change. Let’s not forget, if the rule of the law is allowed to prevail, then 80% of our so called leaders, irrespective of their political affiliation, will be rotting in jails for the rest of their lives.
    3) China cannot be an example to emulate in any sphere due to Indian socio-economic environment as there are no common traits whatsoever.
    4) Most importantly, whether Congress has the people’s mandate to implement such an important policy decision is hugely questionable.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    We have built-in some safeguards while allowing FDI in retail in, let us build some more in order to make sure that there will be more of beneficial and less or adversarial effects on our economy and people.

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  • ssraja

    Sir let the FDI come .Because these middle men r looting the farmers for centuries in this country .what farmer earns in farming for the work for a year
    a broker makes in a minute.the sad part is that a farmer dosn’t have proper dhoti ,where as a middle man moves in a mercedes .the country’s middle men have made lot of money and they r dictating terms.let the farmer see good days.

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  • DEEPAK VOHRA

    all officals responsible for protecting and looking ater these animals shoiuld be criminally prosecuted & fired. All responsible for killing, poarching, maiming, poisioning, trapping, torturing these animals should be hanged.

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    joe Reply:

    Is that you Dicky V of Lal Sitara?

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  • raji

    devastation of nature due to modernism/commercialism/deforestation/.. Nature does well with minimal human intervention. Our help is only needed when we have almost devastated them to extinction. And does india have the expertise and sincerity!!!

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  • gee

    It is alarming to read about this kind of poaching activity. Sooner the GOI wakes up the better it is for the jungles of India. Our famous jungles will fall silent soon with this rate of poaching. The nation requires an answer from authorities being paid by the nation. You are paid to protect and your failure needs an explanation and quick remedy.

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  • Anonymous

    I wish this is just someone’s blog instead a reporter’s article, because it doesn’t sound very wise. There are bigger countries who try to contain China, so I guess India does not have to sweat about this idea. Why don’t Indian people focus on their own development instead of focusing on being the big leader, a mentality got them into the 1962 war? I guess that’s the biggest lesson India should learn from the war.

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    anil Reply:

    India cannot even contain its corrupt politicians (rather it is contained by the corrupts) and it now wants to c o n t a i n China! This guy must be drunk when wrote this or watching too much Bollywood movies for inspiration in life!

    I am 1000% sure China would not even bother to respond to this considering children are supposed to behave in childish manner!

    This is more of a story to go into Children book rather than appear as an article in any respectable journal!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And China has no corrupt leaders right ?

    How much does trolling for the Chinese communist party pay ?? It must pay so well if you can orally defecate so frequently without even countering a single argument with logic or facts.

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    dasg Reply:

    Mao’s son, daughter and grandson are not running communist party. Despite one party state, there is more democracy and severe punishment for corruption than India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    LOL nice try but unfortunately for you, we in India operate on facts.

    The difference is NOBODY voted for Mao in the first place, while Nehru was voted in 5 times!! And how can there be “democracy” in a one-party state when the “demo” can’t vote ? Even Hong Kong is a sham of a democracy compared to any city in India.

    Unlike China, Indians don’t need “patriotic education”
    camps to teach us how the “ruling party” is so great. If “severe” punishments for corruption is so effective how come Chinese government officers are hiding in US embassy afraid for their lives ??

    Sorry, but your arguments are nonsense.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The reason Mao’s son/daughter/grandson are not running the communist party is because unlike Nehru, Mao spent most of this time with prostitutes than with his wife.

    Anil Reply:

    Yes, they have corruption problem too but they do address that quickly and swiftly. There is no society or country in the world which does not have corruption but all that matters is how one addresses it. In India’s case corruption controls the leaders where it should have been the case other way around!

    (And yes they have other problems too but being wise and sensible they are slowly moving toward freeworld – just in case you want to ask that questions again).

    Anonymous Reply:

    If “justice” is simply catching one corrupt official and executing him publicly like some dictatorship , then sure they are “dealing” with corruption but it isn’t “justice”.

    But if like a free and civilized society that through the popular will of its people chooses to address corruption like the Anna Hazare movement is something China has “replicated” or implemented then they have been keeping it a very good secret!
    LOL, yes China is so “wise” and “Sensible” that even Chinese government officials are escaping China! How many Indians are hiding in the US embassy escaping India? ZERO!!

    kavi Reply:

    No need to hide for Indians anywhere as there is no one who would question them? India is a banana republic you can get away with just anything! Do not try to be righteous, India is a hell hole, do not live in a denial, nothing can be done about it, no matter how the Indian literate dummies think.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes for the mentally challenged Communist fruitcake – India is the banana republic while the worlds largest open air prison where people are burning themselves alive because they can’t live in that hell hole is “paradise”. Tell me, do you get paid to knuckle pound such rubbish or are you just so far removed from reality that you would do this for free ?
    The only denial here is by trolls like you who are trying desperately to prove that China is “democratic” and “free” ! IF it wasn’t so ridiculous I would pity you!

    anil Reply:

    In a ideal world what you say is right, provided, yes provided there is a link between what is written in the book or even in constitution and what is followed. But given the status India is in where aspirations and legitimate rights of people are thwarted (not much better than in communists countries) by the mafia disguising as upholders of democracy, anything must be better than this and people deserve some change. Imagine a burden one is creating on humanity with 1 billion people who are automatically going to be a drag unless the course of direction is changed and they start breathing fresh air letting others do the same. I mean if it continues like this no one but anti-socials and terrorists will reap the most of the benefits of chaos simply because terrorists will be more determined then those who are opposing them and they will bought out in the race (it is probably already happening in India directly or indirectly).

    Anonymous Reply:

    Clearly, your knowledge of China is severely limited if you are going to make such ignorant statements.

    India may not be perfect but compared to a nation like China, even an Indian Dalit beggar enjoys 1000 times more rights and dignity in the eyes of the Indian government than even the richest Chinese businessman does in the eyes of China’s government.

    Not even the poorest Indian would ever agree to live in a repressive society like China no matter how much money you pay them – this is why even today Tibetans are escaping to India. And not just Tibetans, followers of Falun Dafa, artists like Ai Weiwei, even a blind man like Chen Guangcheng have tried to escape China and openly criticize their government’s repressive polices that see their people as slaves to exploit for the pride of the Communist party. At least in India, people have legitimate rights that are guaranteed by the constitution, upheld by the courts and bound to the government – in china no such things exist. The government in China can pass any law, seize anybody’s home, force people to live anywhere it wishes and arrest/detain anybody for any length of time without charge!

    To compare the two systems is simply ignorant of all the facts. India may not be perfect and may not be orderly but it is free and it is far more respectful of its citizens than the PRC ever has been!

    The best thing about India is that if you feel that something is wrong, you have the power to change it instead of simply complaining on a forum. You can campaign for change, you can stand for elections and you can enact policies that you believe are right within the bounds of the law. In China, anybody who questions the legitimacy of the Communist party is thrown in jail never to be heard from again.

    serenity Reply:

    omg..dont compare india to china at least…i cant believe it india being a democratic have left with nothing like democracy..n bro if u believe in facts and figures u can check it out the dam-breaking figures of molestation, rapes,abductions,riots n CORRUPTION…our country is on the peak of declining…china is one of the advanced n developed nations full of justice,law n strength..they dont decieve their citizens by doing scams,disorder in law,,,n a long list….how many scams u heard of them…they dot afraid of the corrupt arsed nations like india…globally indians are disliked nowadays just cus of the illiterates,greedy n brainless politicians mass…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Have you checked out the figures for crimes in China bro?? Just because you see big buildings and highways doesn’t make a nation a “developed” nation when people still can’t own land or move freely insider their own country!
    LoL full of justice and law ? You mean like how Bo Xilai was so “law abiding” ? Or how Ai Weiwei is treated so “justly” ??
    Just because you are ignorant of the “scams” of China doesn’t mean everybody else is – please do some research on Chine before blindly accepting Chinese communist propaganda.

    First make Facebook and Twitter available legally in China, then tell me how “developed”, “just” and “law abiding” China is!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Save the wisdom from China is for the Chinese!

    Dealing with China is an important part of development in India because Chinese are part of the problem as far as Indians are concerned. China’s aid and meddling in Pakistan and Kashmir, its loitering in the Indian ocean and its attempts to set up ports around India are antagonistic. For India to progress, it needs to deal effectively with China’s antagonism. And this reporter correctly states how the Indian government is being meek to China’s tantrums instead of forging ahead irrespective of China’s concerns and building alliances with SE Asian nations, missile technology or indeed dealing with Pakistan, separatists in the North Eastern hill tribes, the Tibetan issue, etc.

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  • anil

    [It’s time India took steps to contain China]

    Isn’t this toooooooo big a talk to fit into a toooooooooooooo small mouth?

    Try to be realistic just f a r t i n g will not give one enough power to rise into the air, man! Sorry I could not find anything else to compare with.

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    sanjeeb Reply:

    what do u mean….ur comment is vague ……pl be clear to start a discussion……

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  • H.Mani

    India is ditering soft power.It is waiting in the hope nothing bad is going to happen soon,so there is no urgency.It also does not want to provoke China by overt way of kozing upto USA,& thinks if China attacks,USA in its own interest will come to India’s rescue,there is validity to that thinking,but that is not policy,it is hope,& country should not base their national security in wishful hope.There is another factor,India’s internal problems are becoming more & more accute,like population,decaying infra-structure,detoriation in law& order,instability of center,Congress has lost the its hold in up,bihar,mp,and now in Andhra.Corruption,power shortage,water scarcity,& now economy.All in all,pretty dark scenario of bad option.Inflation,poverty,crumbling state of affairs in north,Delhi area law & order is alarming,in fact it is unsafe for females after 8pm.It is scary.The leadership vacuum is frightening.The opposition is still worse,so the the cynical politicians are no hope for a respite. ,India’s cup of misery now over flowing.

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  • Krishna

    This writer is correct. One fine morning, we will end up having chunks of Arunachal under chinese. The present govt is stupid and is simply not up to the task. Indian should make a strong link with the US, in the similar fashion as UK. There is real appreciation for India in the US, both the political class and the people. India has been squandering this intent and goodwill.

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  • sanjeeb

    It is only my view….one day we will be over run be china…..our leaders will flee and poor country men/women will be left….may sound ridiculous but it is true….we are surrounded by pakis and Chinese…..our strategists r not up to the mark thinker and our ladders are busy making money…..GOD SAVE US….

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  • PatriotIndian

    The only solution in India is education. If everyone is educated properly and armed with technical usable skills that would solve half the misery in the globe.

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  • junior consultant Daxue

    Thanks for this both informative and insightful article. This is a report I posted recently about the influences, characteristics, and negative effects of FDI in China from foreign countries. you can find it http://daxueconsulting.com/fdi-in-china/, Hope to exchange ideas.

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  • ved

    It was Nehru’s timidity and stupidity that we lost 1962 border skirmish.China was allowed to dictate the battle as well as the ceasefire. It was allowed to withdraw with a medal just as indian army was preparing to meet and challenge the invader.Why did we accept the ceasefire.? We should have continued the conflict. China had no stomach to continue for long. Nehru also had another hunchback-Krishna Menon who coild not distinguish between a revolver and a pistol. With these two jokers at the helm great Indian army had to bite dust. Shame.

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  • AjaySingh

    India need to show the world, how to become part of the emerging world. China is not a treat that we need to contain. China is fighting for her own survival. With every day passing by, China feels trapped and isolated. There is no need to isolate any nation. Competition is always good. Sit like civilized people and divide what products they can have the market for. And what they can provide market as far as Indian products are concerned. In the end, if the business relations are strong enough, there will be no need for containment policy.
    India can never contain any nation other than Andaman Nicobar !
    Don’t even try to think you are pleasing any other nation by writing such articles. No body is stupid these days. Spread fragrance by rich Indian values, that will work in the end as containment.

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    serenity Reply:

    u r right bro!!! ol nations r familiar to the internal structure of india…weak structure of india n i dont know about the containment by china but our nation is definitely going to collapse due to the internal demonic faces of politicians…i hate this phase that indiia is going thru…none is loyal,joblessness,extreme loads of rapes, abducions,extortions n dumb dead eyed police with having control of their balls to their ministers…really F*** them off……

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  • Col. P.S. Sandhu

    All experts who are credible are of the opinion that 2012 is not 1962. India clearly has an edge over China militarily.

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  • Anonymous

    Superb and
    timely article.
    China’s support
    to Pakistan and Sri Lanka does not serve any of China’s interests — except that of encircling India and ‘putting India in her place’. It is reported that the ‘Maoists’ of Nepal are ’surprised’ at China’s cynical ‘power play’ in their country’s internal affairs! China’s chauvinism has brought together Japan,
    Vietnam, Philippines and South Korea. An alarmed Australia has strengthened her military ties with the US — publicly, to warn China. Even Vietnam is warming up to the United States. It is time India
    joins the Asian neighbors and the US in a ‘formal’ alliance. It is
    better to be proactive than regret after the event.

    China’s Indian lobbyists of today do not even have the ‘cover’ of ‘ideology’, their compatriots had in 1962! It is business now!

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  • Stacey

    It all comes down to funding and education. Our governments do not give protection of our living world sufficient priority, because the masses of most countries are more concerned with being able to afford the latest gadget from Walmart than saving a species. We need to start educating at a very earlier age that the world with all it’s ecosystems it’s more important to our well being than the acquisition of any “thing”.

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  • sam

    hum logo ko milkar inke khilaf awaaz hi nhi uthani chahoye balki
    koi strict action lena chahiye
    humhe eksaath milkar in kotho main jaana chahiye aur un ladkiyon ko azaad karwana chahiye
    aur is kaam main jitna ho sake utne logo ko apna saath aur sehyog dena chahiye

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  • Hitesh

    “Taqiya” called and recommended by the Prophet(May Peace Be Upon Him as he needs) himself to deal with non-believer. Taqiya means deception, treachery.

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  • http://twitter.com/Adrian_Wainer Adrian Wainer

    ” It is always fashionable to blame Nehru for the defeat in 1962.Our Army was not well trained at all and even today it is becoming something like the US army who inspite of complete air superiority cannot tame Taliabn in Afghanistan. The Chinese soldiers do not use Bhukharies like us in cold regions.They donot expect air support because they plan for war in peace time and build continuously and train continuously .Their communication trenches can accomodate a jeep and their OPs can take a direct hit of a maortar shell while ours is built on sand bags.Our NAVY’S MARCOS COMMANDOES COULD NOT SUBDUE just 4 terrorists in 60 hours at Taj and have to call in NSG commandoes. Today what we should we discuss is how to improve the stamina and training of our troops so that they feel self confident about themselves.There were nearly 70 constables with 303 rifles in CST but could not fire single bullet at Kasab and his buddy. Why? We must think. “,.
    captainjohann samuhanand

    The US Government allowed the Taliban to escape to the care and protection of the Taliban’s mentors Pakistani’s ISI. That is a basic failure of military strategy at the political decision making level. The US military has air supremacy over Pakistan but their ability to use air-power is limited as the US Air Force is simply not interested in counter insurgency warfare and the Army is restricted to rotary aviation.

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  • mmmm

    **** off,please

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  • manu

    so is not it true that Islam does not allow renounce of Islam faith? There is a death penalty for this

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  • manu

    All religions have higher degree of tolerance than Islam. intolerance towards other religion provokes other religions to take counter measures

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