Posted by Shreyas Navare on Saturday, August 14, 2010 at 11:10 pm Filed under cartoon · Tagged 15th August, Champakrao, Independence Day, India
This surely read like a treasure trove. I loved roaming around in CP, leafing through books to find out something that catches my eye.
Great compilation of the book stores around CP, especially the history part. The pictures are intriguing, completing the imagery of an evening in the company of books and coffee for company.
Maharashtra civic polls: Cong sweeps Latur; No. 1 in 3 other bodies
Congress and NCP, ruling alliance partners in the state government, contested the polls separately.
Voting was held in Latur, Chandrapur and Parbhani which were upgraded into corporations and also in Malegaon and Bhiwandi-Nizampur corporations.
Polling was held for 371 seats in the 5 corporations. Following is the final tally: Congress-149, NCP-64, Shiv Sena -46, BJP-28, MNS-3, BSP-1, other state parties-21, registered parties-31 and independents-28.
Where is Anna Hazare?
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:00 pm
be happy with peanuts (woh bhi jala hua) …. while we enjoy the cream
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
The worst scenario staring at India now is UPA lowering our guard against terror from Paksitan. Yesterday I tested out three bloggers– Ravi, mahesh and Manohar. All of them could only see my apprehensions as a BJP, RSS opposition to friendship with our neighbour who is being given a bad name, unnecessarily, by the US.
Manoharji even made fun of my fear that terrorists can come thru becasue of easy visa norms. He is not ready to believe that Mohammad Atta and co, Dawood Gilani and co, Masood Azhar and co, Abdul Rahim Tunda and co, came in first thru regular visas.
Such is the capacity of delusion. Anyway I am just getting inputs… for a project…
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Peanuts will last longer, while the cream turns rancid within a short time. Enjoy your “khaTTi malaai”.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
MCD election results of Delhi should be with us by tomorrow afternoon.
BJP may not do as well as last time. You would also get your share of Malaai – have them before they turn sour!!
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
It was your choice of having cream. I will stick to peanuts (they last longer), whatever the results.
I will reiterate, I will never trust Pakistan state.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Pakistan is just cooking up this feeling of friendship to delude the UPA while it launches an all out war in Afghanistan. For some time it will keep the eastern bornder cool. Trolls on this side will jump with joy “ki ab toh dosti ho gayi…”
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
No one is asking us to trust them and we do not have to lower our guard and we are not.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
No trust no relation.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Just recall – for example, USA and Japan as enemies during World War II and then thereafter. The world and relations do not remain static. You wish to remain frozen in time -suit yourself.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
Comparing US and Japan with India and Pakistan is not even comparing
apples with oranges which are both fruits. I don’t even have an example with
whom I could compare.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:11 am
IndiaPakistan can be compared to horse-gramand bull shit.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
No this is not the right approach. You need not to have intimate relation but Dushmani bhi ek relation hai. Ignoring some body is bigger folly. Would like in details about this on weakend probably but create relationship and keep a wary eye.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
They always carry dagger with them and whenever they get a chance they
will stab you in the back. Keeping relations with them will give them more chances of stabbing.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Shaista Khan aur Shivaji ki kahani Yaad karain. Sorry for one liner,.I can not take risk like Shivaji, Job ka mamla hai.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
That is what I have been trying to tell him, but ‘woh meri baat maantaa hi nahin’.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:08 am
I discern a strong desire for harmony in our relations with Pakistan. Nothing wrong with it, particularly as you are far away from the motherland.
You may even wholeheartedly approve the meaning of this song as applied to Indo-Pak relations:
रंजिश ही सही दिल ही दुखाने के लिए आ
आ फिर से मुझे छोड़ के जाने के लिए आ ।
पहले से मरासिम न सही फिर भी कभी तो
रस्म-ओ-रह-ए-दुनिया ही निभाने के लिए आ
But, we must also confront the ground realities.
I would request you to visit the old blog, where I have quoted the New Indian Express editorial on this “great rush” of friendship our UPA government is experiencing presently.
Well, Manohar isn’t democracy wonderful!
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Agree. Do you have any other alternative, which is even more wonderful?
This is how appeasement of “minorities” ends up. The British people are far too politically correct and have brought this upon themselves. Even after making such remarks, this gentleman has only been suspended and not dismissed from the Labour party.
The policy of Labour party on appeasing the Muslims surpasses a number of parties in our country.
Ravi – please let us know more on this – you would have a better idea on why such a statement was made by Nazir Ahmed while away from the country.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:59 am
I think you are right. In the appeasement department, the Labour Party is the same as our congress party. The suspension is only temporary..
What is alarming is the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in the Muslim community of UK and other Europian countries.
I think they can no m ore skirt the issue.
Not all single lady politicos are crazy.
Our Lady (sounds like a Jesuit School!) is all brains; pragmatic, focused, and transforming the place. We really feel it here. vi va vibrant!
Gone are the thugs’ rule of Karunanidhi and family – an ex minister is arrested in connection with the cover up of a murder, and nine ex ministers//MLAs are arrested for the land grabs during DMK admn.
She put out a vision doc; the consensus of the business community is that 65-75% will get executed in the ten year horizon.
The 2014 Lok Sabha elections will be an interim assessment of her performance. Her party won a by-election recently with huge majority trouncing Karunanidhi’s people, who lost the security deposit!
Karunanidhi is trying his old snake habits, throwing the Sri Lanka, Dalit, or Muslim issues at the voters to see which one sticks; so far no takers.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Frankly I am getting more and more impressed by Jaya. I had one impression of her that she was corrupt, becasue of the cases against her. But she seems to have come a long way.
In contrast Karuna famil looks a bad copy of the family saga at the centre.
If Jaya makes it to the centre… I have a feeling she will be a good PM. But SHoeb, you run a business and you know running an enterprise means delegating power to the right people.
Will she be willing to let others share the spotlight?
Maywati was never able to digest that. In fact she would make sure no petite or smart lady sat tnext to her.
I sum total, jaya could well be a good PM.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:58 am
She is an entirely different person this time, giving lots of responsibilities to her ministers and select bureaucrats. I believe she is going for “legacy” this time, at least as the modern equivalent of the old Chola Kings who brought glory to the old Tamil Nadu region, if not at an all -India level.
With stable politics, with Karuna vanquished, she can put the focus on rapid development – and she is well-focused.
She speaks Hindi and English well, so also all the South Indian languages and Marathi; and with her “white” colour she can woo the rural folks in other states if she does national campaigning for the coalition she will affiliate with – at this time it looks like NDA, she and Modi are good buddies.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:49 am
Vijay Kumar, Shoeb, Ishwar, Mohan,
Jayalalithaa has acted in a couple of Hindi movies, besides more than 200 Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada pictures.
SHe was able to set millions of hearts aflutter every three hours (in theatres) and even now, she is all grace and intelligence. She has, besides the other pluses, courage bordering on irrationality, and foresight.
If the NDA plays its cards well, she can rally the non-congress forces around herself and drive away the family-run business to the distant shores of Italy and Beyond.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:02 am
Yes… I think she would be good. I hope she takes some assistance to handle the media in case it gets combative, without goign down the Mamta road.
She knows the ground situation well and would be much much much better then the Congress chotta baba who owuld probably find it difficult to locate TN o a geography map.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:07 am
yesterday night was one of the funniest nights in my life. The son of the smilling cobra was smiling on Times now and claiming
“That Osama probably never existed …. and was never in Pakistan… all these are media stories to spoil the fair name of pure Paksitan !! ”
Funny.. some Indians , even out here, would probably beleive him. !
But even though I have a tough long day ahead… starting from goign down into a basement and checking out the foundation soil capacity etc in the sun,. I am sure everyone will see me smile !!!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:00 am
In comparison to say SOnia, mamta and Mayawati… she wins by a mile.
She will make a good PM. Her handling of Karuna, who has unleashed his entire family onto the state resources is commendable. She also did not sway along communal lines or on regional lines during the LTTE years.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
My respect for this lady is growing everyday. I wish other CM’s also
follow her model of governing.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Why do you think the CM is opposed to the expansion of metro in Chennai? Most state govts. want to replicate the success story of Delhi Metro in their cities.
Ex-DMRC chief says that the monorail option preferred by the CM is more expensive and can be used as a feeder service to the metro network at the best. I don’t have reasons to not beleive what he says.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:48 am
I believe she will come around as she did for the nuclear plant.
I sense the issue of Mono vs Metro has a lot to do with her animosity to Karunanidhi – she believes Karunanidhi is a total crook, not a patriot and not interested in Indias welfare . Metro was Karunanidhi’s initiative.
She may be mistakenly believing that Mono will put her on world map – as you know it is supposed to be the largest monorail.
My guess is that she will go with Mr Sridharan’s recommendation, although a global tender has been placed..
If Rahul Gandhi asks LET to desist from doing this, they may agree and
withdraw their warning.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
So please request him to do so and see if it works.
You know the usual couriers to carry your messages/requests.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
I would happily do that but the problem is he does not listens to Sanghis.
Anonymous Reply:April 16th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Must he know that you are sanghi?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:54 am
LeT cannot ignore the request from a well wisher.
Rahul can send the request through his Sancho Panza, Digvinash Singh, with the suggestion that he is the most hated person by the RSS.
Maximum chances for LeT to cease and desist.
Bal Thackeray ’shocked’ at Maha’s ‘contract to feed a snake’
Terming as “shocking” the Maharashtra Government’s decision to share water with people in the scarcity-hit districts in neighbouring Karnataka, Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray today said the Congress-led government in Maharashtra has “betrayed” the state.
“It seems that Maharashtra government has taken a contract to feed a snake. In Karnataka, immense atrocities are being heaped on Marathi-speaking people but our government has forgotten those atrocities and decided to share water with that state,” Thackeray said, in an editorial in party mouthpiece Saamana.
Now who is calling someone a snake?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:31 am
This whole water/river issue is nonsense.
These are Indias rivers – not Thackrey’s nor Karunanidhi’s.
The Cauvery water issue (sharing between karnataka and Tamil Nadu) , the Mul;laperiyar issue (Kerala and Tamil Nadu), the Narmada issue (Karnataka/Maharashtra) are older than me.
Ambedkar and co were focused on classifying minorities and majorities while drafting the constituition while ignoring little things like water.
Just imagine how simple things would have been had they included rivers were national property (nobody would have objected because we did not have linguistic states then)
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Water from the Colorado river is used by all downstream western states in USA. California’s abundant agricultural crops/lands will be non-existent without this water. I do not think there is any water sharing agreement between those states.(Rajeev,Pankaj,Benoy – any insights?)
How do other large democratic countries handle their water resource among their various regions/states?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am
That is why I am suggesting that lets build on water security – all these river wars will be over.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:37 am
Thackrey calling Shenoy a snake?
We need to live with our new found love for federalism.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Surely Bal Thakre must have visited this blog and checked out. What did he find out – that the resident abuser’s target was Mahesh – a Marathi Manoos and surely that is never tolerated by the Shiv Sena (how dare you abuse a son of the soil) , hence the invective.
Three cheers to Parliament
Chennai comes up with innovative ideas. ‘Prime Point,’ set up by a gentleman known in true Tamil Nadu-style as ‘Prime Point Srinivasan,’ has instituted a set of awards for parliamentarians called Sansad Ratna Awards. ‘PP’ felicitously chose Ambedkar Jayanti for the conferment ceremony this year and conferred the honour on four MPs:
Anand Rao Adsul — Number 1 in Questions (754). The total tally of debates, private bills and questions raised — 784.
Hansraj Gangaram Ahir — Number 1 in private bills — 20 in number. Questions raised — 755.
S.S. Ramasubbu — Number 3 at the all-India level with a total score of 742 questions. Attendance — 97 per cent.
Arjun Ram Meghwal — Number 1 in debates with 251 debates to his credit. Attendance — 100 per cent.
~~~~ KYA HAI ISS CD KA TERRIFIC SACH ???~~~~
Abhishek Manu Singhvi’s drvver has shot this.
headlines today wants to broadcast it as a sting …. !!
India Today wants to do a stroy on this.
Abhishek Singhiv has taken a court order against it calling it something which will damage his repuration irreparably and forever….
Well when other CD’s can come out… why not this one???
Sach pata lage ya nahi
Or are the trolls going to do a dandiya…”Modi modi rape rape…?”
Is India prepared to defend if there is a war?
The shocking truth about India’s armed forces.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:12 am
more shocking is the way UPA is capitulating to absolve Pakistan and be friends… after getting NOTHING in return. This lowering of guard will probably result in a terror didvidend , like the Afghianistan got , 3 days back. UPA Uncle hafeez saeed has already promised this.
Mohan, one gud joke which i saw on TImes form My office last night. General Zia’s son telling Arnab that Osama was never in Paksitan… it is all a media story.!!
They say it with such conviction… I think they have started beleving it themselves…
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:38 am
I am wondering whether our friend Engrich is the source of Zia’s son or it is other way around.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Maybe Engrich is zia’s son !
Simple as that !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:43 am
But, to be fair to engrich, we have not understood him properly or fully.
He gets activated only when there is a Zionst, Brhmnst conspiracy. Zia the cobra’s son said clearly that it was an American conspiracy.s
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:01 am
Over night Vijay’s Uncle became UPA’s uncle !
Some transformation !!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:50 am
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I think you have full reason to smile as ur pal supports the LeT and like a true domesti you will for sure
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:52 am
He was always UPA’s uncle. UPA wanted him tombecome India’s uncle.
Vijay is one guy who has truth as his mentor.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:49 am
You just wanted to be known as his celebrated Bhatija for some time ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:37 am
He was factually right, though.
Osama was found in Pak-shit-stan.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Absolutely… next to a smiling cobra…!!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:21 am
We lost the 1962 Chinese war because our Jawans did not have anything to fight with.
Both Nehru and his defence minister and fellow socialist from Oxford or wherever Krishna Menon were very good in making speeches all over the world while Chinese, even in those days, were equipping their army.
At least in 1962 we had a legitimate money – food or gun – issue. We do not have it now.
I blame the military. The article says the ministry has given a goal of fighting in two fronts simultaneously. It is military’s role to come up with the “list” of stuff to do that; however it looks like they are waiting somebody to tell them how to fight in two fronts. The article also says they come up with all the imaginary capabilities that nobody can fulfill.
I was counting on the army to take over Delhi..now it looks like they may even be not able to accomplish that!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:40 am
Sad thing is that these things are being covered by media. I thought
anything to do with military will be highly classified.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:42 am
This is a problem of “plenty”.
This happens in the corporate world too.
A startup fired with imagination, takes on the big guys with a very limited resources and gets noticed.
Then he gets funded.
Suddenly the fancy CEO wants everything to make things look big and spectacular. He makes fancy demands. The CEO attends fancy seminars and give fancy lectures. Everything becomes fancier by the day, except the core objectives.
That’s what has happened to the Indian Army.
The budget is growing by the day. The list of demand just getting longer. The GAP analysis is getting fancier.
Yes, we have become the victim of the plenty.
[ In a 2 year tenure, think how much time the Army Chief has spent his valuable time in public spats. Instead of giving shape to a new doctrine, he has spent time, resources in silly, petty things. ]
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:08 am
One thing we may need is the Joint Chiefs of Staff like they have in US.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:13 am
That is not likely to happen(*) and in any case that is not the solution to the problems army or other wings may be facing.
* The idea has been mooted several times in the past, but not found favour with the Governments.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am
A army – civil balance has been maintained in a very delicate manner.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:15 am
From the information in the public domain , the contents of the leaked letter of the Chief to the PM , he has been highlighting the shortage of ammunition , small arms , operational equipment for Special Forces , Air defence equipment , etc. They hardly qualify to be called ” Fancy Equipment.” . As for a doctrine or new strategies , I do not trhink they would ever disclose it , even the existence of one. But our security set up does not end with the Army Chief . We have institutions like the Cabinet Committee on Security, the National Security Adviser , NSAB , and others . What have they been doing ?
And we are still waiting to know has the IB discovered about the leaked letter of the Chief ? Or is that Inquiry still going on and shall go on and on ? The government had announced strictest action against the offender with a lot of fanfare.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:26 am
Well, then we must learn to “prioritise” the items.
It’s like the wife first buying most expensive jewels and then cribbing about not having money for a pair of sandals.
Looks like it has never happened to you in all these years !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:36 am
If you don’t mind can you please leave aside your cynic remarks for the time being and tell whether it is all the fault of army that they don’t
even have basic arms and ammunition.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:39 am
Let us see if the MOD / Army has returned any unused budget !
Also check, if Army’s requests have been turned down or not in the past.
Not to make it part of a standard budgetary allocation and make it sound like faux pas is not a good sign of a leader.
[ For many years, when people used to ask me if I had any vices, I always said "I don't even take paan ( beetle ) !" and allowing people to take their judgement.
So when somebody complains that there is a shortage of small arms and ammunitions, it's being projected as if the Army never got money and the Govt. has not provided it with enough fund. ]
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:45 am
If I had all the sources to check all these then I would
not be asking. Anyway thanks.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:51 am
You may not have all the details. But there are indicators in the public domain that can be checked for inference.
It’s not difficult.
Budget allocation, refunds are available on the websites and also become standard news.
I believe the Army has fully/almost utilised its budgetary allocation.
isnt army a part of the government
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:03 am
Army is the “user”.
The user demands and gets the budget accordingly.
So it’s ridiculous for the Army Chief to write such a letter to the PM talking about shortage of basic ammunition towards end of his tenure.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:33 am
But, you have admitted on your blogs that you are fond of “drinks”, (which perhaps you imbibe daily after a hard day at the TV studios).
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:55 am
When I start my blog, I will invite you as the anchor brand. Then Vijay too will come.
How do you know that he did not prioritise. Has any authority said so far that the list given by the Army was not properly drawn. And not just the Army ,there were CAG reports saying the same thing. CAG reports can only be based on Army correspondence.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:56 am
If it was prioritised, then the Army Chief should not be talking of lack of basic ammunitions. He should have known what to get first with the huge budgetary allocation.
And he should not be writing that latter in March 2012 towards end of his tenure.
Instead of specially calling the files of Vectra and cancelling the order after few weeks of taking the rein, he should have taken steps to procure the “basic ammunitions” for his army.
The letter to the PM thru the Defence Minister was as per normal practice , and this has been oft clarified by the Defence Ministry. The budgetary allocation is with the Defence Ministry which does the procurement. The army only places its indent with the Ministry. How has cancellation of Vectra interfered with his indent for basic equipment ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:08 am
“Priority” of Action.
One happened beginning of his tenure, the other one happened towards end of his tenure.
He should have taken of the shortage of ammunition first with the Govt.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Not just the present Chief but even earlier Chiefs have been writing the govt about the Shortage of Equipment. It is nobody’s case that the Govt came to know of shortage of equipment only thru the March 2012 letter .
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:16 am
There is a difference between the “shortage of equipments” and the “shortage of ammunitions”.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:27 am
So in reality, your grouse is against the cancellation of the Vectra deal. Wah, Vinodji,
your mask has just slipped.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Bury a little deeper in the sand. This time not the tail but the neck.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:18 am
I agree with you about these fancy seminars and all such
things. I have attended few when I used to work for the bank.
Power point presentations, selling pitches from 5-6 sales
persons for the same product but in a different styles.
Very rarely anything concrete comes out of these seminars.
Actual deals are done behind the closed doors.
All the people accused of the broad daylight massacre in Bathon Tola are acquitted by the Patna High court!
The lower court had sentenced them – a few for capital punishment and others for the maximum jail.
I bet this judgment will create another thousands of Maoists!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Police should come up with the airtight case with proper evidences before
going to the court. Otherwise we have many smart lawyers who can easily
punch holes in the case filed by police.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:37 am
In all probability it will. The police in all the states do not do their jobs properly – either they are incompetent or ……………
A tragic state of affairs.
The box became very small.
I am surprised that even after budget almost fully utilized, still we hear about
army not having basic items. Is army consulted before making a budget or was
budget so small that money for even these items was not allocated . I am really
confused, something is happening between government and army which we
are not able to discern. Why they are fighting through media, why don’t they
resolve this behind closed doors? We are talking about army – the most important
body of the country – not some small bureaucrats.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 8:12 am
The user always makes the demand first.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Would you mind passing the “katora of malaai” back to me, please?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:47 am
If you want a bowl of peanuts, let me know – yeh malaai valaai ke liye koi halwaai ke dukaan par chale jaao.
See new post re: Delhi elections.
The sort of scam Abhishek Manu ji is involved in… do you think it would be the right message to send to the youth of the country for character building?
What would have been the COngressi reaction in case a BJP chief spokesman or leader was involved in such a thing?
And most of all you enjopyed yourself so much in a non existent sex scam in Gujarat, what is your view and degree of enjoyment on this real thing?
It seems I missed something. What is this thing about Manu Singhvi?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Pooche mat poocho mat Mohan bhaiya!! WOh Congressi hai… spokesman bhi.
Brother Sanjay is also silent.
Kanchan GUpta has leaked out that poor guy was being blackmailed by his driver with a CD for _ _ _ against favours with some lawyer. Inida Today,, AAj Tak and Headlines wanted to do a story. Sorry It would be bad for me to leak out further than what is known on the net.
Strange that all the COngressis did all the 25 folk dances of India on a non existent porn scam in Gujarat have gone on maun vrat.
Chief spokesman ji CHief spokemsn who castigated the BJP for loose character….
Very funny world! Dikhane ka kuch… andar se kuch aur…
Read the mail before it is censored.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Manoharji who wrote such beautiful prose on character is also invited to comment since he his servile to all congressis. Please give us a lengthy treatise on character now…
HA HA AHA!! to all my firends !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:52 am
You have started laughing at your own posting !!!!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
ab kyaa karen.
jab saathidaar nahin haste, to dil ko khush rakhne ke liye, use khudd hasnaa paDtaa hai, nahin to log kyaa kahe.nge.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
The thing which really made me laugh is when you said terrorists dont come by visas. You were basically trying to prove that Pakistanis are not terrorists… but BJP wants bad relations with them, in a farcical logic. So mohammad Atta fell from the sky or David Headaly came from the earht like a worm?
ABhi bhi hansi aa rahi hai…!
Thx for the joke !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Any chance I can get my hands on that CD.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:37 am
No problems. Our blog master is a CD specialist.
But ask for the CD privately and confidentially. Take an oath of secrecy. You will get a CD by courier.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:58 am
“…Very funny world! Dikhane ka kuch… andar se kuch aur……”
We heard very juicy stories about Shri Joshi recently.
What’s the story? I guess I missed it too.
Congress jeete ya BJP jeete kya farak padega dilli mein?
balatkaar, choriyan, ghoos kya band ho jayenge dilli mein?
Kabhi aayenge BJP ke neta to kabhi congress ke neta aayenge
par jo hota aaya hai wahi hota rahega hamesha dilli mein.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:07 am
we have a new poet laureate !
(posted in 37 deg sun from site )
Mohan, Vijay Kumar,
the congress is set for a sound drubbing in the Delhi elections, if the trend continues.
The seemingly unflappable congress has reacted predictably, saying these are noly municipal elections.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Yaar, BJP jeeti hai, ek aur peg pee le naa, kya farak paDegaa app ke ’system’ mein?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I am sure you know from my regular postings that I don’t need any reason for
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Yes. I realised. Just for the heck of it.
Relief for Maharashtra govt, Adarsh panel says land does not belong to Army.
Does this means that there was no fraud?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:36 am
We should wait for a day and let more details be known probably via the print media, then we can discus it in detail.
Trinamool MP Kabir Suman mocks Mamata over ‘toongate’, composes song
Causing more embarrassment to West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee, who is drawing flak over the arrest of a professor for circulating cartoons, singer-turned-Trinamool Congress MP Kabir Suman has composed a song, “Hasi Niye Thako” (Live with a smile), mocking the state government.
Goons thrash retd scientist, strip his daughter near Kolkata
In the latest atrocity to rock the state, a retired scientist was beaten up and his daughter stripped on the outskirts of Kolkata on Sunday. Dr Aparesh Bhattacharya, 60, was thrashed, and his 30-year old daughter, Aditi, stripped and beaten, allegedly by members of a club at Baruipur, before the duo was thrown out of their rented house on Sunday afternoon.
Worse, officers of Baruipur police station, who reached the spot more than two and a half hours after the incident, refused to record the victims’ complaint or take them to hospital.
Sanjayji… yeh chuppi kab tak rahegi???
By the way even Mamta wants to censor facebook now.
As it is opening a facebook account in India is now conditional to giving a residence proof… by giving a phone number.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 9:50 am
No comments on Abhishek Singvhi’s CD doing the rounds. Some jaipur based papers have reported that his driver had shot it… some story of _ _ _ for favours… etc.
Blackmail. India Today AAj tak get hands on it. Broadcast danger. Total maun from all Congressis….
Singhvi gets court to band CD as it will irreperably dmage him and Congress.
Yeh sab kuch kya ho raha hai Sanjayji? That is why I always say that COngress is a national jewel which has to be recopvered form Naukercy and sycophancy.
By the way you must have enjoyed the CD as much as you did the non existent porn phot in Gujarat? .
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:02 am
What’s the story?
How do you manage to write so much without giving any info/substance ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Beating around the bush is so much easier.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
As a nauker of the COngress what do spin do you have to cover the moral turpitude… especailly when you wrote boring chapters on the non existent Gujarat porn scam?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Do tell us something… just some hints would do.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Do you think Vijay would have waited had he known ?
The post would have been atleast 5x of its size.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:27 am
इंतज़ार और अभी,और अभी,और अभी
इंतज़ार और अभी,और अभी,और अभी
Caught in the act? Now, an ‘objectionable’ CD of Abhishek Manu Singhvi
Source: PTI | Last Updated 09:47(17/04/12) Share9|
: Abhishek Manu Singhvi Share New Delhi: The Delhi High Court has restrained a media house from publishing, telecasting and broadcasting the contents of a CD pertaining to Congress leader and a leading advocate Abhishek Manu Singhvi.
“Till the next hearing, the defendants (the media house), their agents and all others acting for and/or on their behalf are restrained from publishing, broadcasting and disseminating or distributing in any form or any manner the content of any alleged CD or any other material as described in the plaint,” Justice Reva Khetrapal said in an order on a civil suit filed by Singhvi.
He had sought a restraint on the media group from making public the contents of the alleged CD. The court has also sought response by May 21 from Aaj Tak, Headlines Today and India Today and Singhvi’s former driver, alleged mastermind behind the scandal.
“Irreparable injury is likely to be caused to the reputation and goodwill of Singhvi in case the defendants are not restrained. Accordingly, issue notice to defendants (one to four) which is returnable by May 21,” it said.
Singhvi alleged that the CD was “forged, concocted, morphed and fabricated”. Any move to telecast the alleged CD would infringe the right to reputation of Singhvi, the plea said.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:28 am
Why the forged, concocted and fabricated CD was morphed?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Spin +Spin = reverse swing !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:59 am
ha ha ha !!!
On second thoughts, this should stop. It is similar to chappal/shoe throwing – gets unnecessary publicity. We should be wary of these media houses on the payroll of Congress. They might come up with something similar (or worse) against the opposition too for the sake of their TRP and their paymasters.
The opposition won’t even be able to obtain a restrain order from the courts.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
have fun for now. The Cognress will anyway use all material with untost goebbelsian ferocity, whenever it gets a chance.as it did i the Amar Singh CD and the fake Gujrat porn case.
A pert of me pities Manu/ But then he came out so strongly against others using a non scam on a moral platform. Blackmail by a driver could be dangerous and in case such a CD fell into the hand of Telecom and defence dahals… they could have twisted things.
Ok some hint is there. There is a story on Dainik Bhaskar website that the Net is buzzing with jokes on the episode. Singhvi is being called a disciple of N D Tewari.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:33 am
Disciple of N D Tiwari? It is a compliment in this field.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am
I got a lot of feed in from twitter.
The COngress has been reduced to a joke.
Morals of the story
a) People who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others
b) Five minutes of fun… can lead you to fifty years of explaining !
c) Be careful of your drivers!! They are wattching and shooting everything….
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:42 am
a) Cover glass houses with blinds.
b) five minutes? Thats too long, was he high on cocaine?
c) bribe your drivers before the act, not after.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:47 am
5 minues — he was on viagra (and sued Viagra because it was only five mnutes!)
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am
Seems that Congress is really a gud joke which makes ll of us laugh !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:58 am
The buzz is that he has l drafted his complaint … and his case is strong as there is a witness …
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:07 am
btw he represented Endosulphin (??) , the dangerous pesticide co, whose product crippled many in north kerala near the govt agricultural farm land.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Lawyers– especially corporate and TV faces– are making money in crores and crores. The driver would definately ask for blackmail in crores….
Five Minutes … unn paanch minutes ke liye puri duinya ki jung hai… Life is funny…
You once made a theorem that becsue fo the non existent sex scam in Gujarat, parents will stop children from joining computer classes.
Now do you think I should sell all my shares of CD comapnies as parents will stip children from buiying CD’s? Did the COngress have the upliftment of USB companies in mind that it allowed this scam so that CDs will stop selling . (this is extende spin.. cong style…)
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Vijay rarely get things straight.
- A theorem.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:17 am
AM in full mood for a duel… but got to rush to Noida… c u later…
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:59 am
For him, the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line.
- A corollary.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I know. David Headly came by parachute. I learnt this from you
And of course… the attack on NATO by Taliban and ISI was a RSS and BJP plot to defame Paksitan which is an innocent sponsor of peace. (as per ur post 3 days back)
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
And a parachute descends in a spiral!
The real problem with the COngress :
Manu Singhvi’s political career has now probably ended. His story is somewhat true for most of COngress
Here area few facts.
a) He represnted the lottery companies which had all the poor in some sort of satta scam even when lottery was banned
b) He advised Union Carbide even when India was pitted against Carbide
c) He represented the endosulphin companies ( As gopi mentioned)
d) He spoke about porn watching by BJP and castigated them.
And now the truth is out. Is this not lying, double standards and smugness….. just becasue you have the media under control and you control the engish speaking Indians?
Regarding the Adarsh “finding” – One does not know whether to laugh or cry…
It is similar to the Patna high court verdict on the 1996 massacre in Bathon Thola.
The powerful creates their own law.
I was counting on the army to take over. But now with the Janes weekly revelations, I dont think I can count on them either!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Yes Gopiji powerful people do make laws in our country. It is they who decide
not the courts that who should be caught and who should be set free.
Delhi Municipal Corporation Election Results.
1) My posting a link to Maharashtra municipal corporation results earlier was to take a dig at Anna Hazare. I had asked where is Anna Hazare?
2) Now the points to note –
a) the top Congress leadership in Delhi did not go to town with the Band Baajaa re: municipal corporation results in Maharashtra.
b) If you visit the newspaper websites, starting from Nitin Gadkari downwards – the BJP leadership is going around with the trumpets re: Delhi elections.
Congratulations once more.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
The top COngress leadership has no spokesman as its cheif spokesman is hding in a CD… that is why…
I am on the move… but am tempted to ask you, since you have an ear into the COngress office.
Why is the UPA surrendering to Paksitan when the world is out to nail it.
Is it not obvious that Pakistan is deliberatley putting on a behsh badl wala act to get seeta out of lakshman Rekha… (India) while it goes all out to attack Afghanistan. So Pakistan needs a quiet Eastern border for two years.
Who is framing this policy? Rahul and company or MMS?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
I might have told you before that your observations are rather flat and unidimensional. If I have not said that before, then take it as my opinion about your views.
India has a small window to be somebody out there. She missed the Industrial revolution. This IT revolution has brought India some glory and economic power. But this is not going to last for eternity. The advantage of arbitrage will shift and India will slowly lose the edge. So we have a very small window to strengthen our economic status, consolidate the political power in the region.
Make hay while the sun shines.
But a disturbed neighbourhood and poor internal security take the resources away. The energy gets depleted. The political will is distracted and disturbed.
Only for India’s sake, Pakistan needs to be “contained” and be kept hanging on a hook.
Thanks to NDA, India has lost the supremacy of the conventional weapons . Today Pakistan has become a declared nuclear state. It moves its nuclear assets openly with a slightest provocation.
Pakistan also uses terrorism as a state policy.
So how do we contain Pakistan ?
Use its own aspiration.
Pakistan now wants to be like India.
So we must use of Pakistan’s aspiration to be economically well off so that Pakistan uses its own resources to contain the Jehadi elements. Pakistan understands that it can implode anytime with these jehadi elements and it is not easy to throttle these jehadi elements at will as musharaff had thought. There is a price to be paid for.
So when we open up a little with our soft power, Pakistan will get suck into that system wherein it has to put in more effort to stabilise its own system and the neighbourhood than India.
In the process, Pakistan will gain, but India’s gain will be multifold. India can easily do the business on the World stage.
So opening up to Pakistan is a very little price to be paid for the gain we can have on the World stage. pakistan is not ready with the infrastructure to maximise the benefit. By the time it’s ready, India would have zooomed off to different orbit !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
What a waste of time and energy!
Do you think that the local hawks here are going to appreciate the points you have articulated so well? No, if you ask me. Nothing less than a complete destruction of the neighbour will satisfy them.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Like Pakistan, some elements here too needed to be kept engaged. We hardly have any choice. One has to deal with their tantrums, shifting goalposts and ideas about the Nationhood. You will find striking similarities between those elements in Pakistan and few elements here ! Similarities in their extreme stances.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
1) Have you noticed the similarities between the Uncle-Nephew duo, which is but natural?
The former wants to destruct India and his nephew here wants to annihilate Pakistan. Chaachaa-Bhatijaa think alike.
2) Shifting goal posts is so much easier for some of the hawk(er)s here.
If you start discussing Thermodynamics or Game Theory or Tiger Population or Modi, the goalpost shifts to the Family with a click of the mouse. All roads lead to 10, Janpath and their ‘naukars’.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Chacha-Bhatija ! Nice !!
Both love and thrive on rhetoric !!!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Cmon Manu Singhvi;s shame has driven you to this?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Very poor exit strategy.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I never exited from a fight without winning it ! And the Congress khema will lose this one badly… !
The point is how can you talk about porn when your party’s spokesman is being blackmailed by his driver. wHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN CASE THE defence dalals fgot hold of the cd ot the 3g scamsters?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Start a new thread, we will talk about whatever you have in mind.
now you have to do naukeri of Sanjay to survive
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
As often you do to Shenoy ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
sanjay do you actually beleive your own spin on behalf of the congress?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
What do I need to believe?
That you do not agree with Shenoy often ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Manohar beleives that David Headley came via parachute. So do you beleive that. he also beleives that MOhammad Atta and gang nevr took visas to go to US, so you also beleives that?
Manohar ji also believes that Pakistan is a harbinger of peace whose fair name is being spoilt by BJP and RSS. Do you also beleive this?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
You were taunting manohar about being a naukar to me because he agreed with me. Do you also do the same when you agree with Shenoy ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
And in turn fake Sanjay has to do congress naukri for survival and not to be separated from the spoils of decorations and RS seat etc.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Congress ruled this country 92% of the days after independence.
All the blame is squarely on them and the populace at large for electing them and not holding their feet on the ground.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Does blaming anyone and wailing solve the problem?
Ask yourself, as to why alternate political forces have not been able to convince the electorate that they would have done a better job.
Nothing lasts for ever. The electorate has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long.
Things are changing. The writing is there on the wall – some people can’t see it.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Watch the YouTube programme (the link above) and then we will talk.
You are right, some people cannot see the writing on the wall. We all know which set does not wish to open their eyes.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Unfortunately, I am at work right now and the computers here won’t allow a link from YouTube. Would try to watch it at home in after 10:30 pm as I wait for the UEFA Champions league semi-finals between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich which kicks off at 15 past midnight.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
You should not only become a politician but should also try your hand on writing
political thrillers. Freindship with Pakistan will raise India to do business at world
statge? Wow, now Inidia is even depended on Pakistan on this matter.
Because of NDA India has lost the supremacy of convention weopons?
Did NDA stopped not to buy any conventional weopons?
Is there anything left on which you can put blame on NDA for the misfortunes of India.?
I am really surprised how India survived during those horrible six years of NDA rule.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
You can run a marathon to glory, if you only take that “tiny thorn” away from your foot !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
This is what even I am saying. Take out that thorn
and just discard it, but what you are advocating is
that we make a garland of that thorn and wear it.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Unfortunately, you can not change your neighbour ( or discard the thorn )…just “keep the thorn in your pocket”, so that it does not prick your feet while you are running.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
If you keep the thorn in your pocket,
then just imagine where it will start
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Borrow the guard from Vijay. he always keeps it on whenever I bowl to him.
His spin to the facts is yet another sign that he is none other than the party’s top spinner himself.
Another long post saying what a Congress spokesperson would i.e. blame the NDA for everything.
As if without them, the country would have been clocking 12% growth rate and Pakistan would have stopped terror as a state policy against us.
Not unexpected though, uncle!!
In all the excitement of CD, Delhi Elections, we seem to have missed an interesting comment by one Bharati Singh . Here it is
So far we were struggling to have minimum qualification and clean criminal record should be the basic criteria for selection of our respectecfullll leaders, behan mamta has added a new one – Psychological test must be conducted to keep insane characters away from politics.
Statutory warning: The following programme contains a F-word (in the lexicon of the some of the Hindutvawadis) – Nehru. You have been warned, watch it at your own peril. If you squirm, do not blame me.
What can Pakistan learn from Indian education system?
(Sochta Pakistan, 20 Jan 2012)
Thanks for telling me I am uni dimesnsional. I take it as a compliment since I am unwavering in my commitment ot fight terror. I am not like a barsati kukkad or a weather vane which changes direction as per profit motive or what the malkin or chotta baba of the house direct you to.
You need balls and unwavering resolve to fight terror and UPA does not have it.
I think the UPA is making a huge huge mistake. Somehitng similar to what Rajiv gandhi did i the eighties when he was carried away by Gen Zia’s promises that there was no terror emnating from Paksitan. In fact some of the old Punjabis refugee journos are still not convinced that Pakistan actually bred terror– ask Kuldip Nayar or Khushwant Singh, right now to check up. They valued their personal frienddhsip with Zia higher.
They beleived that the geb would never lie to them.
IK Gujral fell in the same trap.
I have a feelign that MMS may be falling in the same gutter.
Sanjay, I think in a matter of one year I will change your mindset. Manohar is already being pushed to come out to give more and more logic to justify mental slavery to family rule. he will change for the better I am sure.
Since you mentioned VIMHANS and some psychiatirsts, why dont you ask them who Kumar is… and what project is on to treat scizophrenia with his help and recondition the mind….
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
“..Sanjay, I think in a matter of one year I will change your mindset…”
Nice to be ambitious.
In my whole life I have not managed to convince a single person. Who ever changed because they saw the truth themselves, not because of me.
[ Tell your friends at Vimhans to use special "touch based multi level games" for cognitive training to help "recover the brain injury areas" and not to look desperately elsewhere. ]
I will definately look into this and refer it on.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
The key is that it has to be “touch based” not “click based”, because there is a relationship between the touch and brain remapping though certain sense of intimacy.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Dont I know it ! All the girls tell me… you are all hands..
Anyway more seriously speaking research has been done to link various areas in the feet to match corresponding areas in the brain. Which would also apply to the hand…
And which is why…. we may get a patent on a product…
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
One needs to teach them to use both hands and feet to give them the sense of space and relationship with the World. Hand based touch can bring things closer and feet can push things away..a very primary start up point…then the combo that can help them deal with objects “simultaneously”…. well…it’s kinda vast area to touch upon here.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Why suddenly both of you have started
discussing in an alien language? This
is public forum and others also are part
of this. Bhai mere thoda khayal karo hamaraa
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
It was just a sincere request, no apologizing please.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
if you follow the line of fake Sanjay’s arguments, his effort is to tire Vijay Kumar with all kinds of inanities. When somebody gives fiting replies to him, such posts are censored immediately.
Chith bhi unki, patt bhi unhi ki.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
I don’t think both will
change their stance,
then why not just enjoy
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Mohan, in the Mahabharat, sanjay was supposed to have narrated the entire war’s “ankhon dekha haal” to the blind emperor, Dhritarashtra.
This Sanjay is leading everybody down some blind alley with his non-sense like touch based and click based something, which only the God with three eyes knows.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
I have already said sorry to Mohan. perhaps you want me to repeat..
What a daft point to make
The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put the NDA into the hot seat in 90s and threw it in 2004 and kept it bay in 2009.
The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put elected Modi with a thumping majority twice already and will do so again later this year, perhaps with lesser number of seats..
The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put elected BJP in MP, Chhatisgarh, etc. and recently in Goa.
The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long today reposed their faith in the BJP today in Delhi Municipal elections.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Am I being lured into some kind of trap?
What I meant was this. The traditional vote bank of the Congress is slipping away. Earlier, they could count on the SCs. STs, other backward casts (and some forward cast people for different considerations) and muslims. It is no longer the case. People are getting aspirational and asking for more. Mere words don’t help and the corruption higher up in the govt. has climbed to an unimaginable level. As a nation of generous and practical people, we can live with a bit of corruption here and there. We know that politicians don’t spend their time and money for charity – they would make money. The problem arises when they go past the acceptable limit and it’s not a very thin line.
Only if we had a more honest media, things would have changed much quicker. The role of the media is to act like a watch-dog and question those in power. What we see instead is that it works the other way. For ads or other considerations, it works overtime to defend the govt. decisions, cooks up spin to every story and questions the opposition instead. Another thing it needs to learn from the media of developed countries is to excercise restraint in reporting and avoid sensationalising trivial things like a show throwing, mobile porn watching, kid falling in a bore-well etc.
Looks like one of my longest post ever!!
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
A long post yes, but what you have said is 100% correct.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I agree with you.
Your arguments cut both ways. You are perfectly within your rights to believe there is a big slippage in the Congress’ vote bank, but that is not falling into the ‘jholi’ of the BJP and if it is, then they have been unable to take advantage, as they do not seem to know what to do with those gift boxes.
I have said this before. If you have noticed, that this slippage also applies to the BJP too. Both these two big parties need to get their houses in order, otherwise regional players with divergent narrow agendas will call the shots and we are going to have a big crisis in terms of stability and policies.
For example, for the BJP – IMO, Manohar Parrikar is the man.
Porn watching and all that were just minor side shows (I have been dismissive about them).
150 Afghan schoolgirls poisoned in anti-education attack
Earlier fundamentalist in Afghanistan were stopping girls from going to school
and now they are try to kill them.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Criminal to say the least. I think the Afghan government and international organisations must do something about it and now.
I hope BJP will use the Delhi victory as a platform to build on and expand. They have to get their house in order, ensure the mining and crime mafia in MP is brought under law, empower the young grass-root leaders, provide Modi venues etc etc
To me the victory in municipal elections in Delhi was primarily due to the increasing popularity of BSP and others. This time I could see a number of people who would have otherwise voted for Congress being lured into voting for BSP etc.
BJP has its own vote bank and it almost does a favour to the party by coming out to vote. The traditional Congress voters from the (relatively) poorer section of the society ensure that they show up at the booth on the polling day – only to vote for someone else this time. The division of votes of this section of the society has resulted in BJP’s victory this time. This is not to say that none of them vote/voted for BJP. They were sick of the price rise and corruption and wanted to teach the Congress a lesson. It signals to a larger worry for that party as and when the assembly/general elections are held.
I don’t beleive in the existence of a mining mafia in MP – its a media story. I had never heard of the Reddy brothers under Congress rule in Karnataka. They had been mining long before Yeddyuruppa became the CM.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Why do you say “BJP has its own vote bank and it almost does a favour to the party by coming out to vote”?
Care to elaborate?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Look at any online opinion poll or the comments section of news websites, you would see the majority against the ruling UPA. Walk up to the polling station, the profile of people you see there tells a different story – where are they?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
You seem to suggest that BJP won because of the congress vote got split among BSP and SP. Is it so? If so, then the Congress does not have to fear the BJP and has to fight Mulayam and Mayawati. Am I on the right track? Has the BJP support plateaued?
We still do not have the details of the voting percentage and vote share, etc.
The box got smaller there. I am sure everybody would have noticed that how
Sanjay vehemently defends UPA. I will not go to that length and accuse him
of coming on this blog with some agenda. May be he really believes that UPA and their
policies will ultimately bring positive results for India.
p.s. Sanjay- I will keep on disagreeing with you most of the times.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
since this afternoon, “Sanjay” is in a flap. He has really lost the balance of mind which has reflected in his weird kind of arguments.
But, now I have a key to his discomfiture, squirming, loss of appetite, an acute thirst for the drink that lifts you etc.
he was speaking, repeatedly about a chacha-bathija team.
Thanks to Praveen Saxena, I have been able to unravel the mystery.
N.D.TIWARI IS THE CHACHA AND ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI IS THE BATHIJA.
Both are staunch congressmen, both have common loves.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Because of these people, producers of Viagra have become
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Thanks for trending me since this afternoon.
Going by the past record, you can ever barely add to my discomfiture.
I like the original Chacha-Bhatija team – both living and thriving on rhetoric.
Your Chacha Bhatija team has no dum like the original, whether you take one=on-one or team by team.
What say Vijay, the original Bhatija ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I have challenged that I will change you. And notice I have bought change to this blog.
Now nobody talks of open servility to Sonia G and Rahul G ever since I got the term “nauker” in.
Even you desist and now put your praise of the royal blood in a round about way by attacking BJP.
Manohar ji is in a process of catharisis. I assure him and you that I will change both of you.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Again you started pumping the cycle tyre…. !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Like chaachaa, like bhatijaa.
Ek mushqil hai waise – dono cycle ke tyre mein bahoot baDe ‘puncture’ hai.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Does he need an IED from Chacha to fix the puncture ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Totally offtrack and not funny.Only your naukar will applaud on this.
Come on…you can do better
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
IED that has laughing gas as one of the components
Isn’t it funny?.
Ha, ha, ha (*)
* – Look I have already ‘changed’ (one year ki to aisi ki taisi). I am laughing at my own postings and comments already.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
gud . Now you know that beign a naukar is a bad role model.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha, ha
I am laughing at my own laughter.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Does naukri meaning sitting like a parrot o the shoulder of the master?
But be assured I will change your servile mindset in one year…
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
If nobody talked about Sonia or Rahul, they also did not talk about Advani, Sushma, Vajpayee, Gadkari too…
You have started living in a delulsory world !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
“Going by the past record, you can ever barely add to my discomfiture”.
Also ever barely add anything remotely meaningful or intelligent to the discussion. Full stop.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
You are always welcome – to disagree.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Good, bad and ugly.
Good : You wife is not talking to you.
Bad : She wants divorce
Ugly : She is a lawyer.
Good : Your son is finally maturing
Bad : He is involved the with the woman next door
Ugly : You are also involved with the same woman
Good: You start telling your children about sex as they are maturing
Bad : They keep interrupting
Ugly : With corrections.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Serious suggestion. Compile your jokes in a book form with different sections. Would love to see it published. Get business instinct predominate here on a hobby.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
This is real thought provoking humour !
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Have you ever thought of becoming a stand-up comedian?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I don’t think there is much money to be earned in this line of business.
~~~ the worst job… in India… TO BE DEREK OBRIEN ~~~
Kya lies bolta hai salam just to defend Mamta’s hounding all critics.
I think you need to be a real worm to say all this with a straight face…
I think in Pashcim Banga this blog and its writers would be behind bars being hounded by a mob of TMC/
Very poor show by mamta. I think her government will collapse. SOme rightists or Even Congress should grab her space. Otherwise another 34 years of CPM would push Bengal to 1946 and not 2046
Democracy and disruptives.
Abu Quatada has been arrested by UK Police. Quatada, who is fighting his deportation to Jordan has given speeches earlier that converts from Islam, Americans and others are wazib-ul-quatal and liable for terrorist attacks. Human right commission is resisting his deportation. So many disruptives here practiing same democracy, indulge in terror and then hide behind democracy, human rights and anti fascism. Rule of law should be supreme, nothing more, nothing less.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
On 17 January 2012, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Qatada could not be deported to Jordan as that would be a violation of his right to a fair trial under Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights. This was the first time the court has ruled that such an expulsion would be a violation of Article 6. The Special Immigration Appeals Commission subsequently ruled that Qatada should be bailed on highly prescriptive terms for three months while the British government sought further reassurances from Jordan. Under the UN Convention Against Torture, to which the UK is a signatory, states are obliged to refrain even from complicity in torture, and thus are forbidden from deporting people to places where a real risk of torture exists. “Torture is rife in Jordan”, according to Human Rights Watch, though the prospect of torture did not stop the UK from deporting people to Libya under Colonel Gaddafi.
Abu Qatada was released on bail on 13 February 2012. He is prohibited from using a mobile phone, computer or the internet, and subject to an electronically monitored 22-hour curfew that only allows him to leave home twice a day for a maximum of one hour.
On 17 April 2012, the BBC reported that Qatada was arrested at his home in London and told that the Home Office “intends on deporting him”.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Believe me, I am as much sensitive, may be more than most, about torture of any living being. I am talking about a person, which is inciting people to KIll, KILL and K I L L. I will not suggest pulling off his hair, nails or any such henious thing but if UK can not confine him and make him desist from such activities, then, may be Jordan is the place for him with the hope that they will not give him devil’s treatment, him being a fellow countryman and coreligionist.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
There is a dilemma faced by civilised societies. How to handle potential troublemakers? On one hand is the safety and security of the society and on the other hand is the human rights of the potential trouble maker. A person is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law (not kangaroo courts) – that is accepted principle.
Digressing a bit. Take the case of Ajmal Kasab – he has been subjected to due process of law and proclaimed killer/terrorist, the Supreme Court is yet to give its verdict. This is much to the chagrin of a very large number of our countrymen. If the Bombay police wanted, they would have shot him on the spot when captured. Then our charge against Pakistan would have been just that – a charge without any solid proof.
Has there been any unlawful.uncivilised societies that have managed to save themselves from potential trouble makers?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
As Ishwar had suggested yesterday, the appeasing policies are have their effect.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
this is a serious issue. It affects us most as we are at the edge of the arc of terror which originates in the hate schools of Pakistan..
As an unsure UPA rushes forward to extend the hand of friendship, India is bound ot face the repurcussions of the ripple.
Unfortunately the free world has human rights for the terroirsts. the terrorists have no respect for anyone’s rights.
~~~~ CHANGING MINDSETS—- FOR BETTERMENT and ATTAINING FULL POTENTIAL ~————–
There is a popular saying, “that you cant teach an old dog new tricks…”
What I am going to say out here is the exact opposite. That unlike animals who are instincive, human beings react to situations in terms of instincts +EMOTIONS + VALUE ATTACHMENTS to achieve primal instinctive goals. Must be sounding funny, but this is a project I am working on as a consultant to some psychiatrists. We are probing the mind to achieve simple goals for schizophrenia, ADD, hyper anger, etce etc. Along the lines is also a spinoff on how marketign strategies should be made in advertising. And how…. educational biases can be changed.
A final spin off would possibly REVERSE BRAINWASHING for terrorists, a worldwide need… and a word which I sometimes use here.
Well if you take this blog as an open group of 15 people. I have in a covert way introduced change. By adding and revealing the NEGATIVE VALUE ATTATCHMENTS TO VARIOUS POSTURES.
I should not be revealing all this. But I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker… an acheivment he would give NEGATIVE value to after years if education and work experience.
The only way he could now mentally reconcile to being a Nauker would be in case he knows that he is getting something in way of position or money, which has higher positive value agains the negative value of being a naukar.
“…I should not be revealing all this. But I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker…..”
You are going down to a ridiculous level. You have changed me !! If you could, then so many people here would have danced with joy ! It’s just that they can’t see your miracle !!
When the time comes, I will talk everything and about everybody. I do not talk about anybody without a context.
Sorry for being harsh…. gandusha matra jalen sarfari farfarayate…
I will not disagree. This revolt agains tmy outline of change is part of process of change.
frankly I should not have revealed the process.
You are obvious like a Red Rose.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
No offense. But let this be a brutal answer from you. I can bet my engineerring degree, my work (now somewhat recognised by psychologists), my long sittings in psychoanalysis sessions asa an observer… that there is a higher value value attatchment of profit in your mind linked to a role which reconciles you to the role of being in a position of servility,
I cannot accept a servile ego posture from a person of education and articulation abilites.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
If you want a brutal answer from anybody, make your question crystal clear.
‘ when the time comes, I will talk everything and about everybody ‘
Aap to daraa rahe hain. Did you get a hold to any of my secret ?
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
If people discuss about you, is there any reason why I must not discuss about you?
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Gandusha…, please explain this to me, sounds interesting. main daroonga to nahin, per haan, curious jaroor ho gaya hun ki Aap kya jaan te hain mere baare main? Wou;ld love to discuss that.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
It means that a samll fish makes a lot of flapping in water… while the big ones who have everythign move on…
Okay if sanjay implys I am a small fish…
Of course I am .
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
It was not small fish…it was out of depth.
Your claim that I will fear…..was completely out of depth.
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
forget it…let’s not discuss it further
Got to sign off now..
Like I said… I always salute both my enemies and friends for making life what it is.
DOnt take anything to heart. This was a blog excercise. In normal course I would not have gone into this. Anyway you made so many personal comments and I did not react at that level… So get over it and come back roaring tomorrow.
We are bound to be at opposite ends. I chase the truth not any party’s posture.
@ Pankaj, Mohan others et al.
Havve a cool time… keep blogging
Anonymous Reply:April 17th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
“…I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker…..”…”
I am sure you will reflect on this sentence . This kind of stuff does not work with me.
Sanjay Jha was called CLUNKY by Nirmala Sitharaman in TimesNow debate.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:24 am
It has come out in the open now!
Vijay and other friends;
Always play with superior adversary. That will hone your skills. Win against inferior player is illusion, and will lower your standard. I am a competitive player even now. After all this blog is a game of mind. By this time, you must have understood who is who. You are much more educated than me, IIT and all that. Enjoy it. Vijay, you have progressed very well, but even best can be bettered.
Just completed a book while in plane, Genetics- it is kind of made easy book, New York Times’s publication. You will enjoy it. It will tell you who is related to whom and will clear any fog in the mind of readers. Questions on genetics are welcome. After all, I am related to Sanjay and even Ravi and Engrich in someway. More on next post.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:41 am
Who decides who is superior and who is inferior ? Doesn’t every one thinks
most of the times that he himself is superior ?
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:49 am
No, a true player will understand by the end or even mid way through the game that where he or she stands vis a vis adversary. when, I was playing table tennis for fun, I will always seek a better player to play and on the flip side that better player will avoid me, seeking a better player than himself. If you have to choose, there is no illuson, you know instantly.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:14 am
Table tennis ? Was the topic really a sports game where winner is easily decided.
Problem is that one does not wants to give up because he thinks that by giving
up he will be termed as a loser.
By the way I liked your line – Still collecting stones, in front of the ocean of knowledge.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 7:16 am
Sometimes it is important to win just to show what is right and correct. But I take your advice in real sportsman spirit and invite you to a Table tennis game… with beer as prize…
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:06 am
“Doesn’t every one thinks most of the times that he himself is superior”?
No, not everyone. Of course, there more than enough megalomaniacs, self-appointed ‘reformers’, self-righteous types
etc. We have some examples here too.
There are all types of people and that’s what makes this planet such a fun place.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:36 am
Will surely take your advice. was planning to taper down my presensce on this blog from today onwards… but as I said company of all… friends and opponents is very addictive.
So with a phone in hand.. the ther on the keyboard… possibly punching inwrong spellings… I am here… but probably less and less.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:21 am
You are related to Sanjay and Sanjay is related to Abhishek Manu Singhvi!
what a relation!
After writing this, I was afraid that I may be sounding preachy, far from it. Still collecting stones, in front of the ocean of knowledge.
Not just drum-and-trumpet
B. Surendra Rao
History is the knowledge of a retrievable human past. In one sense it is what the historian does, but in another, it is available to the historian and society as a collective of accumulated, debated, dialogued, refuted, amended, renewed knowledge to choose from and build on. Historiography unfolds this rich terrain that has gone under the historian’s plough and the ideas and strategies that have gone into coaxing what is shown as a harvest of truth. Approaches to History puts together 10 critical essays of stock-taking and introspection on various aspects of Indian historical writings. They illumine several themes of interest and relevance which mainstream historiography had loftily overlooked.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:51 am
Would have loved to read it, but taking time between making International calls to attend to this blog. Can not read lengthy articles, more interested in your or individual’s perspective.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:56 am
This actually is a reviews of book
APPROACHES TO HISTORY — Essays in Indian Historiography. Edited by Sabyasachi Bhattacharya; Indian Council of Historical Research in association with Primus Books, Virat Bhavan, Mukherjee Nagar, Commercial Complex, Delhi-110009.
Price: Rs 1095
An informative and analytical anthology that shows how rich Indian historiography has been
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:23 am
‘ An informative and analytical anthology that shows how rich Indian histroiriography
has been’ I have many times noticed that this also creates problem, because instead of
feeling proud of our past many of us feel superior to others which causes rifts.
One should know where to draw a line between swabhimaan and abhiman.
Well I am sounding preachy now. Is this the effect of last night’s party I attended where
no drinks were served.?
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 5:04 am
No, you are not sounding preachy, just expressing your opinion.
You have already read my response re: feeling superior below.
How tragic – No daaru. My commiserations.
Singhvi taken off Cong duty roster, ex-driver takes CD blame
Even as the Congress decided to take spokesman Abhishek Manu Singhvi off the party office’s duty roster for the time being in view of the CD controversy, his former driver claimed that he was the one who had distributed a “distorted” video to take revenge on Singhvi.
The party’s decision came after Singhvi — who heads the Standing Committee on Law and Justice — secured an injunction against the broadcast of a CD that allegedly contains material which he called defamatory and fabricated.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:41 am
Only if Mr. Singhvi had paid his driver before the act, this news would never have
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:59 am
You are right.
It doesn’t matter what you do in the bedroom as long as you don’t do it in the street and frighten the horses.
– Mrs. Patrick Campbell (Beatrice Stella Tanner).
was a British stage actress (1865-1940).
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:16 am
I think Abhishek Singhvi is stingy. He promises a lot but delivers little.
When Nithyananda’s sex CD was released, it was aired continously and there was a public uproar. The Congress spokesman was Fxxking a lawywer promising to make her judge… however, the media has not made it news…. PAID NEWS OF INDIA SUCKS.
People are complaining that when they showed the BJP MLAs watching porn, the media titillated them by merely hinting what was being viewed.
Here the CD is said to be having the real thing. Now media is acting coy and is all conscience and ethics etc.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Getting the right judgements becomes so easy !
Gehlot for phone-tapping, Modi wants to mine Sir Creek: CM ideas lost in the din
Naveen Patnaik argued for a resource tax on mining companies, Ashok Gehlot wanted the power to tap phones in other states, and Narendra Modi urged the Centre to exploit the hydrocarbon reserves in the Sir Creek area. The suggestions offered by chief ministers at Monday’s meeting on internal security were varied and innovative but most got lost in the noise around the debate on federalism.
Non-Congress CMs had the most suggestions, with the notable exception of Rajasthan CM Ashok Gehlot who came up with some of the most controversial ones.
Naveen Patnaik, Orissa
1. A “mineral resource rent tax” on private mining companies “to be charged at 50 per cent of the surplus rent”.
2. At least one public sector bank branch in each of the blocks in the scheduled tribal-dominated areas.
Mamata Banerjee, West Bengal
1. Increase in the quantity of rice to BPL families in Naxal areas.
2. Machines to detect fake currency near border, Naxal-hit areas.
Nitish Kumar, Bihar
1. Training in “humane behaviour” for the Sashastra Seema Bal at the India-Nepal border.
2. Zero tolerance towards corruption as government policy.
Ashok Gehlot, Rajasthan
1. Powers to intercept telephones in other states be vested in the home secretaries.
2. Mobile phone service providers be mandated to make available call records of the last five years instead of one.
3. Security agencies be allowed to access databases of banks, passport office, railways and aviation companies, and also from NIA and NTRO.
4. A system at the Centre to monitor objectionable content loaded on websites from servers abroad.
Raman Singh, Chhattisgarh
1. A National Security Guards battalion in Chhattisgarh.
2. Housing for security personnel as priority.
Narendra Modi, Gujarat
1. Creation of a dedicated force to exploit the hydrocarbon reserve in Sir Creek area, and tapping of the solar energy potential on the western borders of Rajasthan and Gujarat. This would also help security.
2. Every sub-inspector from a training college be asked to impart 100 hours of training to constables.
It is difficult to love mankind unless one has a reasonable private income. And if one has a reasonable private income one has better things to do than love mankind.
Was a versatile British writer and journalist.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:24 am
Why the Congress is looking like Yahya Khan
As I sign off to enter a dug up basement for a few hours… here is one reason to smile.
In 1971, as AAK Niazi was in a process of signing the surrender, my favourite historical joker, CMLA Yahhya khan,, who had fifty diesgnations to make himself feel powerful, was fully convinced thaat his army was about to occupy the Rashtrapati Bhavan and capture Delhi.
O My God… with every stunning loss… the COngress spin doctors are coming up with newer stories on who they are actually winning !!
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Yahya Khan was frolicking with Noor Jehan when his army was sigining the surrender document.
Was Abhishek Singhvi too in the same ‘mood’?
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Insiders would know…
~~~ WHY TERRORISTS WILL ENTER THRU EASY VISAS TO PAKIS ~~~
This is serious business. I am not here to score brownie points on this one, though I can very easily.
Rehman malik has warned that Taliban is about to enter India in a big way to create huge problems here. Murderers from FATA will be coming to murder here, wearing the aman ki aashsha logo and flag. While a few Indians will keep crying BJP and Modi.
This is through the legitimate route of religious tourism with vaid visas.
I think bloggers should highlight this in their postings. I sinverely beleive blogging does add up to some action some where.
Cut excise or we hike petrol price by Rs 10/L, says IOC
Taking a cue from the RBI governor D Subbarao, market leader Indian Oil Corporation indulged in grand standing on Tuesday by saying state-run retailers would raise petrol price by almost Rs 10 per litre, if the government did not reduce excise duty or did not compensate their Rs 49-crore daily loss on the fuel.
“We have been very patient, not raising prices since December despite our cost of production spiraling. But there is a limit to which we can borrow money and produce fuel for the country,” said chairman R S Butola.
Pak min warns of Taliban push into India, offers help
Pakistan interior minister Rehman Malik on Tuesday cautioned India that it should watch out for a surge in extremist activities amid fresh intelligence that the Taliban could be planning to enter the country.
“I can see more extremism (taking place) in India. I have asked our high
commissioner in Delhi to call on the Indian defence minister soon and share our inputs,” Malik said.
Is this for real? How should India treat this development – sharing intelligence info re: Taliban and terrorists.
Does the media carry out its due dilligence with due dilligence before it does stories on CDs / exposes etc. There have been cases , or rather a case , where it was loudly claimed that due diligence had been done on whether the CD was genuine or not , but that due dilligence was found to be not diligent enough. So have the India Today / Headlines Today carried out their due diligence on the Abhishek Singhvi CD ? Would they contest the case before the Delhi High Court and assert their Right to publish the contents as the people have a Right to know about the personal conduct of people who are in public life. ? Does Markandey Katju have a view on this Restraint Order ? Or does he find this issue inconvenient and shall prefer to look the other way ? Would the Congress Party use its might to sweep this issue under the carpet ? …. Time will give the answers to these questions.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Everything has been fixed now. the driver has been probably purchased. Typical Congress spin has been created that the driver realised his mistake and had created this warped CD with the help of a studio and then asked for “vast” sums of money as he was a bitter man for getting low salary!!
a) Why has Abhishek Manu Singhvi been jettisoned by the COngress then. (As per Indian express). if he was so wronged, he could have got the driver into jail, being a huge lawyer, is’nt it?
b) Why did Healdines Today, India Today and Aaj Tak get into it, if the CD was so obviously fake? They would have surely verified everything before taking this risk. Remember they were careful enough not to touch the Amar SIngh CD as they were tech smart enough to see it was fake.
Read that article on Amazon. Surprised to read that 40% of the books sold
online are through Amazon and this may reach 60% in next 5 years.
First time heard of this word monopsony. Even vendors are left with no choice
but to sell their products to Amazon.
Does this not mean that big retailers with their money power will corner
the whole market? Ultimately consumers and vendors both will be at the mercy of these big retailers.
He lives in the thick of a forest, created by him. Man Made forest.
One more feather in the cap of Kerala.
This case shall become interesting if India Today decides to contest. Also I believe Singhvi has filed a police complaint , if is so this will be another investigation to watch. Because even I belive that if India Today were to do a story they would have done a proper due diligence.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Normal course India today wont contest. Ads, ad campaigns for elections, goodies from the govt… a lot of lalach is being thrown by UPA and trolls.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 8:58 am
Agree with you. Most of the media is not reporting this news. I have
not heard any opposition leader also speaking about this.
This case in all probability will die very soon.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:02 am
My scare is in case such CD’s land in the hands of 2G scamsters and Defence Congractors who are known to create honey traps.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:06 am
I don’t think any such thing will happen. You can only
blackmail a person of his misdeeds if those are not
known to the public.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:10 am
If you dont write the joke book… I will pick up all the lines from this blog and and write it on your behalf !
Really gr8 one !
I had a pretty bad experience in the morning with SP workers… jostling/manhandling me for forced donation at a client’s factory in the morning. Your remark has boght the zing back into me !
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Don’t forget to pay me royalty.
Few pegs of Chivas will do .
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Definately ! Pegs to all on the blog… friends… opponents… everyone! Cheerssssssss !
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:08 am
There is a Restraint Order passed by the Delhi High Court prohibiting the lecast of or publishing the contents of the CD against India Today Group. The petition for such a Relief was filed by Singhvi. In these circumstances , no media shall report. The Opposition also shall not take up his issue as it rel;ates to an individual and till something comes out in public and which is prima facie tenable.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Thanks. Understood why no one is talking about this.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:37 am
We know there is “paid news”.
Now we will have “paid media silence”
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:50 am
You are at your brilliant best – yet again.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Whether media talks or they keep quiet, thy get paid. They are in very good business.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 8:52 am
However the positive part is that a new job has been created. As COngressmen are getting unemployed , losing elections after elections, I am sure jobs is a priority
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Delhi’s hangers-on market is set for a nose dive.
Since you got my zing back, here is one for you from my joke factory
Maybe the concerned gentleman was looking for an alternative film career… inspired by sunny !
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:23 am
He should approach Mahesh Bhatt who now produces these kind of movies.
He will have no problem getting a role.
Shiela Dikshit wants that the blame for the defeat of the Congress in Delhi should be shared by all in the Party. Does that include the self-styled “Brahmin” General Secy. ? But has he indicated which Brahmin does he want to be ? A Kanyakubj, or Saryupari or Gaur -Saraswat , or Iyengar , or Chitpavan or Palghat Brahmin ?
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:26 am
A Chirstain-Muslim Brahmin.
A new category of Brahmin will be created for our Yuvraj.
There has to be a third mysterious abgle to the CD thing whihc is not being talked about.
Is it some sort of fravour, some appointment, some x factor that Aaj Tak and India Today sensed a big story…?
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:58 am
last night, Sanjay was very acerbic in his replies and very caustic in his choice of words. While his efforts at comedy fell flat on their faces (as always) there was the faithful side-kick who is also the official congressi troll on deputation to Sanjay’s blog, clapping furiously, as if he would lose the honorary title of the troll if didn, ‘t clap.
But we must be kind to him, particularly when he is hit by twin tragedies, the BJP winning Delhi handsomely and the world famous lawyer and chief of congress media bureau, being caught in a sex CD, promising a woman lawyer the heavens, if she shows him the ultimate heaven.
Added to that, Rajeev reports that Sanjay was called the clunky chacha by the BJP spokesperson!
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:04 am
I am trying to trace out what these heavens are. Google has started blacking out nes on the subject. Yahoo is still uncensored till now
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Google is the latest to ralise that a worthy adversary can be fought in a court of law, an evl adversary has to be feared.
A good development…
“People here are angry with Congress. They refused to vote for the party as they are upset with the soaring prices and corruption,” said RLD’s Aaley Mohammed. Mohammad (21) is the youngest candidate to have been elected as a councillor.
“Muslims have learnt to vote for the candidate who works for us and not for the party that takes our votes for granted,” said Mohd Suhail, a resident of Qasabpura.
During its campaign in Muslim-dominated areas, Congress had tried its best to woo voters by playing the community card. While chief minister Sheila Dikshit at her public meetings slammed Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, Delhi Pradesh Congress Committee chief JP Aggarwal had made a public appeal to Muslims to vote in a consolidated manner.
Not only Muslims, a few more sections of the society are showing its back to the grand old party. Even the Congressis are admitting that the BJP didn’t do well during its last term in the MCD but still managed to sail through because people voted on the issue of price rise and corruption and not on local issues. Does it augur well for the party in the upcoming assembly/general elections?
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 9:56 am
BJP should not count on a “vote against” strategy..They have to be a “vote for” party. Country is ready for a clear alternative, not a dressed up (or down) version of GOP
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:08 am
You are right Gopi.
Th next logical step is to highlight the good work done by different state govts. ruled by the NDA vis a vis the UPA. There has been a considerable improvement in the law and order, state of roads and girl education in Bihar under Nitish in Bihar, Chhatisgarh govt. is running the PDS most successfully in the country, Gujrat villages are getting 24X7 electricity etc.
Let the chief ministers of these states campaign more aggressively at least in their respective neighbouring states so that people learn about all this more and make an informed choice for themselves.
2014 is a big opportunity for the NDA.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Yes, the CMs should be used either across the country or in neighbouring states, extending the brand. Rajasthan has to be brought back in the column, especially with Gujrat as its neighbour. Have to have young inspiring people leading local/regional activities.
I believe Akhilesh/SP win in UP has a lot to do with people’s perception of Akhilesh more than any other political alliance/Mayawti’s misrule etc. Every parent in mid 40s on will want a son like that – humble, cheerful, accommodative, helping..-
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:11 am
DID BJP SLEEP WALK TO VICTORY?
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:45 am
Well, this time it almost did. The party campaigned primarily on the issue of corruption and price rise – which hasn’t got much to do with the municipal body.
Let’s hope that the trend continues. Organisationally, they are strong in the city and hence people voted for them against the Congress/UPA as a better alternative to them.
If the primary job of the MCD is to ensure that the city is clean, street lights work, colony roads are sans pot-holes, the gardens are well-maintained, no illegal building/extension comes up, the hospitals are hygeinic etc. then I can’t see how it performed so well on these issues to be returned back to power!!
I live in Delhi.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Pretty nice analysis Ishwar. I live in Delhi… fell the same…
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Delhi municipal election and CM of Delhi to garner votes criticizes CM of Gujarat.
Amazing. When will these people learn?
Google has removed most of the news on the CD. Yahoo still has about 3000 pages. DOnt be too surprised that they are snipped by 2 moro
Interesting info on Kareem’s man-made forest.
Have you heard about Silent Valley? It is the result of a determined poetess, Shrimathi Sugatha Kumari, and a committed group of people fighting the politicians, bureaucrats to save/build a forest preserve. Leftists wanted to level off and were against creating/preserving the forest, Shrimathi Indira Gandhi, once she met the poet and understood the issues, was for the forest, and she was quite helpful.
Sugatha Kumari also led the Krishnavanam forestation …
Thanks for this info.
There are many people in our country who work selflessly in the interest of our
nation. I have very high regards for these people.
Mamta’s supporters and well-wishers dissolutioned
Brilliant remark by Shenoy
Remark of the month for me!
Dont be too kind to Akhilesh as he has to be put to test. His goons are running amuck. Today morning I was at a factory construction in Noida as a a consultant. The owner was not around.
Around ten workers were there at site.
Suddenly three car loads of people arrived. They were toughies how could and probably also worked as bouncers in pubs and hotels.
“Some people in the village are sick… we want a donation, ” They surrounded me and put forward a card which showed that others in the area too had paid, 60 to 70000.
“I am just a consultant from Delhi, ” I said trying to be cool, “designing this factory so that people get employment.”
They pushed me to a waiting Versa.
“Pradhanji ki insult kar rahe ho, ” One of them sneered, “He will help you out in case of strike… he will help you in case there is a gunfight… we are party workers who are also social workers”
These were indirect threats.
Inside the car a smiling so called pradhan was sitting with a rifle.
I called the owner of the construction site, who told me to pay up on his behalf. Problem was I just had 9,000 in the pocket.
“You have an ATM card,” one of them pulled me by the collar, ” Another one of them pushed me hard.
I still kept smiling. “ATM is two miles away…”
“We will come again….” They sneered and took the 9000.
“Once you give us the money… you will be protected and we will give you our card that nobody else will come for one year…” The Pradhan said loudly, trying to comfort me.
They left after that.
Gopi this is the state of things on the ground which Akhilesh needs to see in the party.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
That is unbelievable.
Apart from the goondagiri, the fact that it happened so close to Delhi, the ancient imperial capital and the new democratic capital, speaks volumes about how “far” we have come!
On the goondagiri, let us hope Akhilesh govt will fix it in time.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
This happens at other places too. I have a showroom at Bhiwandi just at the
outskirts of Bombay. I have to pay something regulary to local goondas.
Thankfully their demands are small.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Though I did feel strange in the morning on seeing the rifle… I tried to handle this with a smile, knowing that things can go wrong. After coming back to office I was feeling sad that in India for every step forward we take one back.
HOWEVER UR JOKE GOT THE ZING BACK TO MY MOOD !
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
I feel bad that UP should take this road. NOIDA is thriving becasue of proximity to Delhi, great planning and good gentry.
However the politcal parties have created their own goons for collection.
In sharp contrast, despite her statue megalomania and corruption, Mayawati did not have these ruffians set lose.
I hope Akhilesh is really tuned onto the UP street where things need a strong hand.
Pak SC allows 3 Hindu women to decide their own future
Three Hindu women, who were allegedly forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslims, were today allowed by Pakistan’s Supreme Court to decide their own future and where they want to live. A three-judge bench headed by Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry asked Rinkle Kumari alias Faryal Bibi, Lata Kumari alias Hafsa Bibi and Asha Kumari alias Haleema Bibi to inform the court registrar’s office whether they want to live with their husbands or their families.
The bench ordered police to provide complete security to the women and warned that police officials would be held responsible for negligence if they were harmed.
India to test fire Agni-5, missile that can target China
India will join the elite club of nations having Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) with the test launch of its 5,000 km-range Agni-5 missile planned on Wednesday. Successful test-firing of the Agni-5 will catapult India to a hyper-exclusive club that now counts only the United States, Russia and China as members. It will be a huge strategic leap and give India capability to target all of Asia, including the northernmost parts of China and large parts of Europe as well.
The three stage solid-fuelled 50-tonne missile will be launched off Wheeler Island in Odisha and is expected to reach its target area in southern Indian Ocean.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Let us hope the test will be successful.
In addition to the Indian pride, I have three more reasons to be proud – that the leader of the project is a fellow Malayali Christian woman.. Shrimathi Tessy Thomas, dubbed “Agni puthri” (daughter of fire) in the local news media, has been directing the Indian missile program for many years; she is directing the Agni V project.
Hopefully she will become a role model for many of our girls (and boys) to pursue a career in science
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Agni Putri. Great title. All the woman and man of course of India should be her.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Her fame has sky rocketed.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
As per NDTV:
The high-profile launch of India’s first Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM), Agni-V, has been postponed. Authorities say the launch was postponed due to bad weather.
A Sindhi calls newspaper agency to print death of his grand father.
Clerk ‘ Rs. 50 per word’
Sindhi ‘ dada dead ‘
Clerk sorry, minimum 5 words,
Sindhi ‘ dada dead wheelchair for sale ‘
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
I had asked you the name of your joke factory. I repeat my request.
Thought of the evening:
After a nasty experience I realised that India needs two or three national level parties. But currently both of them are out to annihilate each other, leaving the floor space to regional and caste/ communal parties.
Woman ‘molested’ for refusing to join Trinamool Congress
Another blot on Mamta Di.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
The media has got a new “bakra” in didi now.
Mr. Modi can live in peace for a while and enjoy till it lasts.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Don’t count on that. The moment somebody sneezes in Gujarat,
Modi will be blamed, and if by any chance that person happens to be a Muslim then god forbid all hell will break loose.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
You apprehension has been proved right. Look at the top post.
You got that right. Mamata defied Congress and Sonia. Now paid media is making her pay for it.
We saw same things happening just before UP elections,
almost daily we used to get similar types of new from UP
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
At this rate, she will not last out 5 years of tenure. It would be much sooner. There is a possibility of a revolt among the TMC MPs soon.
Manu Singhi CD case : One of the best comment I read.
BJP can only watch, while Congress can act.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
when BJP watched,
the media witch-hunted.
when congress acted,
media reacts with silence!
Singhvi stripped of all party positions. Only position for him now is missionary .
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Missionary position..looks like he is joining Our lady of 10 Janpath church.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
because he stripped a woman lawyer?
Earlier you had provided a link to the news where Pakistan SC gave three Hindu
women to decide their future. Here is follow up to that story.
Want to Live With Husbands: ‘Converted’ Pak Women
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
The silver lining is that it has been left to the women to decide for themselves to decide what they wished to do with their lives. These cases may be a matter of love-marriages plus a matter of conversion, hence the parents may have taken offence.
We also cannot rule out the possibility that they may have taken the decision under duress, I do not know and perhaps we will never know.
The important thing is that the decision was left to the women concerned.
BTW: Don’t we see similar cases happening here, when the parents with the help of the ’self appointed’ thekedaars of our culture and religion to poke their noses in a matter which is purely personal and concerns adults? Here too, the courts and in many the cases, the police (generally of some other state) leave to the individuals to decide their future telling others parents/thekedaars to lay off.
It is all a matter of intolerance and attempt to restrict individual liberty.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Once the women have sex, it is difficult for them to return as the cultures of the sub continent would label them “dishonoured.”
If you see the link Rajeev posted some time back, the whole thing is a communal charade. A group a procession simply captures a girl from th oppressed religion. It is a battle of the womb.
The oppressed religion has one womb less. The opressor has one womb more to produce babies.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I had read that article and that is what is happening in Pakistan.
Even the intervention by SC did not have any effect. Girls
‘decided’ to stay with their husbands.
If you read the article… Police accompanied the girls who kept their faces hidden in Burka. That is pakistan… one is not even sure they would have got the right girls to court.
furtheron… with so much public and pressure of their “forced” husbands a teenager would just crumble.
The right statistc to probe would be
The ratio of Muslim boys married to HIndu girls in comparison to Hindu boys married to Muslim girls.
if it 100 to 1 , I wont be surprised.
Rest of tales justifying this as love marriages is dil ko behelane ko jhayal achcha hai..
Rajeev’s harmless post got deleted. Was it because he mentioned our
Brahmin Yuvraj Rahul Gandhi?
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
This just shows how clunky is other side…Cheat and claim victory is typical congressi mindset.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
That is Sanjay’s way of creating a level playing field.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
When my comments are deleted, I get the confirmation from other side that I have won the argument.
If government jobs are given by way of sexual favours… is it not Yaun uthpeedan?
If government jobs are given on consideration of sex… is i not exploitation of women?
If goernment jobs are given by patronage… will not the patron demand favours in return from the person given the position in terms of decisions?
very good questions which we need to ask ourselves.
This was probably the thrust of the AAj tak probe…
Ishwar not so fast.
Gujarat HC quashes sedition cases against TOI Ahmedabad
The cases had been filed after a series of investigative reports had exposed Mathur’s dubious background and questioned if Ahmedabad was safe in his hands as police commissioner. The TOI had said that the Narendra Modi government, particularly the then Minister of State (MoS) for home Amit Shah, rewarded Mathur for botching up the Sohrabuddin fake encounter probe.
A little more than a month later, terrorists had killed 57 people in the city by triggering serial bomb blasts on July 26, 2008.
Post-retirement, the state government has again rewarded Mathur by appointing him as director general of Raksha Shakti University. Shah was arrested by the CBI in the Sohrabuddin case and has been restrained from entering Gujarat.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Rs 25L fine on Gujarat govt for intercepting ‘beef’ containers
The Supreme Court has slapped a penalty of Rs 25 lakh on the Gujarat government for intercepting meat containers on NH 8 and registering complaints against the exporters for violating the Gujarat Animal Preservation (Amendment) Act 2011, which prevents transportation of cow.
The exporters have, in a petition, told SC the meat was being transported from north India to a Mumbai port. In one such case, a division bench of Justices Altamas Kabir and Surinder Singh Nijjar pulled up the Gujarat government on Monday and imposed a huge fine for illegally intercepting the export consignments.
Modi, Modi, ………………….
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
It looks like SC is at fault here. Wasnt Gujrat enforcing its law or do we have something in the law books barring interstate transportation from state’s purview
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Is Gujarat not part of India that it is hindering legitimate trade and transhipment of goods?
I am not surprised that you are finding fault with the Supreme Court (’cause it faults Modi’s Gujarat) and also fault anyone else too.
Mind you Supreme Court is not at the service of Gujarat or Modi alone, upholding its laws and acts alone. There are a much larger entities called India and Indians.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:10 am
The supreme court has accepted Gujarat’s (Modi’s, in fact) contention that every state in India carries out encounter killings regularly, while only Gujarat gets vilified and demoniosed. Gujarat has provided statistics to the effect that encounter killings in the state are the minimum for India.
Accepting the arguments, the SC has pordered the centre to come up with the status for the whole of India.
Terrible news from Gujarat. There is no possibility that such thing
can ever happen in any part of India. It is Modi’s fault and he should be severely punished for this.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
I know… its modi evrywhere. You look up at the sky if there is a thunderstorm, it is modi I am sure …
if a mosquito bites Teesta in the bum… Modi must have bred them…
Ho Hum !
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Gujarat HC gave verdict against Modi. Surprising, I was always under the
impression that Gujarat courts are biased towards Modi.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Yeh aapki galat fehmi thi aur hai.
Where were all these girls when I was of the right age?
A young boy to his girl friend : Let us go to some remote peace full place
Girl: Will you do something Naughty?
Boy : No, darling
Girl : Then leave it, I am not interested.
Another boy to his girl friend : Tum to meri chand ho ..
Girl : Aur tum ho mere Neil Armstrong
Boy : Neil Armstrong ?
Girl : is chand pe chadhne wala pehla aadmi.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
“is chand pe chadhne wala pehla aadmi.”
Bahut Khoob…Was Rajiv Gandhi Neil Armstrong for Sonia? Point to ponder…
A special ode for Congress tonight .
Quoting Lord Chesterfield on sex
” The pleasure is momentary… the position ridiculous…. the expense damnable ! “
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Any ridiculous position is acceptable for the momentary pleasure. Who cares
about the expenses, there is lot of money available in India to be looted.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
I know… 1,7600000000000
particularly my friends on this blog. Wanted to read all the post but can not do. So, restricted to my posts and reactions of my friends. It is obvious that they did not like my post regarding playing. I will suggest that you read it again and decipher, what I am trying to say, then feel bad. Obviously, we are not on the same page.
Vijay, You understood me totally wrong. You should read between the words, reading between the lines is passe. I have given enough hints here, who sanjay is. he is a professional writer, you know what? His style, flair, contents clearly direct to his profession apart from a plethora of other indications. When I said to play with better player, I was trying to say, that imbibe his style, the way he obfuscate issues, the way, he can not discuss certain people on this blog etc. For good debate, learn these skills. Few posts back, I had already termed him as a professional and attributes of a professional. His never say die attitude, though badly beaten on Army General Issue, he did continue to defend Government. So, nothing can be more obvious, I was trying to say that to enjoy his dilemma of compulsion of defending undefendable. Was listening this morning, Gulam Ali.. Main teri mast nigahi ka bharam rakh loonga, Hosh aaya bhi to kah doonga mujhe hosh nahin.
Shenoy sahab- You also did not take the hint about relationship, was expecting that may be you will take.
Mohan- Table tennis and topic, very dissimilar and very similar at the same time. I was suggesting Vijay to learn debating skills from him not his ideology.
Friends, it seems, long absence from India has changed my attitude, style and now, I enjoy some different confrontation- jis main, Cheeeen bulwane ki jaroorat nahin padti, and every one understands that. Keep the blogging going. Good luck.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I did understand what you wanted to convey this morning, but I wanted to
take the discussion to a different level. Any way some other time.
On Sanjay, I once complimented him by telling him that he should be a
politician because he knows how to avoid inconvenient questions.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Let me add my two bits
“because he knows how to avoid inconvenient questions”.
There are others hre who take the easy way out – obfuscate or simply scoot.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Yes Yes!! They are unwillign to answer why a national jewel like the Indian national congress has become an army of domestic servants and naukers of the family.
They are unable to answer why they need to shout Modi Modi every tiime they are caguth with their pants down and cheating and looting.
They are unable to answer why Chotta baba , the PM in waiting of the INC thinks LeT is not a threat and why his mentor beleives that it was not LeT , but RSS which did 26/11 ki saazish.
Yes we must ask these trolls all this and tthen expect them to shout rape again..
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Congress is NO MORE a national jewel but National Disease.
In an ideal situation, Congress should be basically desolved and splinter groups emerge out of it joining other parties.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
It is truely a sycophanitc nauker to dynasty organisation right now…
but I would not want it to dissolve. After all this was the organisation of Sadar patel, Gandhi,
even nehru. And of course many ordinary indians who fought for freedom and became members.
We basically need to recue it from trolls, the corrupt, the naukers of dynasty, the sycophants.
I think we need a clean congress bereft of sycophants and family rule. Becasue we need national parties…
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I beleive we need national parties which are democratic. Regional parties are small minded and at times communal.
I had a bit of a rough up with SP goons in Noida next to Ghaziabad today. I feel that national parties would be accountable. These regional parites… they are not the solution.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
But actually I dont defend lies or obfuscate !! That is my problem.
My focus in life is clear. Congress has to be rescued from its present state where naukers and sycophants have taken over obfuscating corroption and dynastic monoplies.
I think that is the only stance I fight for. I deliberately dont put it in complicated language because all my life I have read technical books written in complex language … sometimes as complex as kamasutra positions
I of course admire Sanjay that he does defend the indefensible which I probably would not. Still there have been duels before… and would be duels later. None of us should take anything personally.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
You are on dot about Sanjay. This guy is a professional blogger (HamaraCongress). I initially thought he was Vinod’s proxy but when I read his arguments closely, I was sure of his true identity.
He is basically a propagandist and a very insignificant one.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:10 am
you are very very close to the truth. Only, you have left it unstated.
Let me “clarify” the issue.
The beginning of 2011 was great for the blog, with all kind of men and women participating in the proceedings. VINODJI WAS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT TOO, replying to almost every blogger, sharing jokes and also gaalis.
Then came the turning point: the appearance of Prabhat. With him doing the job, Vinodji took leave of the blog, except once a week, while posting the essay.
When people found acute “shortcomings” in the way Prabhat’s unbridled , no-holds-barred rsponses to some of the bloggers, he was “removed” silently and totally and Pahlad was let loose on the blog.
When Prahlad, with his “Sir”s and “Tehelka is the best in the media” kind of rsponses, too failed to perform the desired duties, he too was abruptly and unceremoniously discarded and now we have the Mach-III model.
What has gone wrong with this Mach-III model?
Well, he wins every argument by censoring replies which are fitting, witty, humorous, or which nail his blatant “family worshipping” posts.
THEREFORE, I THINK THE TIME HAS COME FOR VINODJI TO CALL HIS OWN BLUFF AND LEAVE THE BLOG TO PERFORM NORMALLY, WITHOUT SILLY PROPS LIKE SANJAY.
More news about Modi
Keshubhai plays community card
Barely two days after empty chairs greeted chief minister Narendra Modi at a function organized by a group of Leuva Patels in Surat, Keshubhai gave a clarion call to his community that it is high time to show detractors that “might is right”, that too addressing a nearly 60,000-strong crowd.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Any insight into this? Is the ex-CM a sour grape or are there major issues?
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 4:38 am
The ex-cm belongs to Yeddy’s category, though not caste.
Obsession of certain gentlemen here with Modi.
I request them to link the following with Narendra Modi and win a lollipop for the dunces of the year
a) Agni test firing delayed. Modi must be behind it. he sneezed. Engrich and manohar have concluded that the skies became clouded
b) Abhshek Manu Singhvi drops his guard. All beasue the woman lawyer saw a plate of Momos and said Momo de do . Manu Singhvi busy in his files just heard Mo-di… got excited… and rest his his-story !
c) COngress lost MCD elections. Obviously all the Delhi COngressis were busy shouting Modi Modi rape rape… they forgot to work in their consitituencies and lost !!
~~~ WOW !! PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT WILL PROVIDE HAFEEZ SAEED SECURITY !!! ~~~~
Two days back, on this very blog, manohar, Mahesh and Ravi were giggling like girls and trying to potray me as a hardliner, BJP guy who was giving a bad name to the innocent state of Pakistan.
Well as I watch TV right now, news is coming in that the Lahore high court has directed the Paksitani government to provide “A ” category security to Hafeez Saeed !!
So Hafeez will never never never never be caught. Instead spin will be created as Imran Khan suggested that Saeed and LeT are good hearted people who should be won over with love.
Wah !! Wah !! Applause !
I can see Manohar and mahesh giggling that Hafeez will never be caught… and we need to win him over with love… even as he announces a hard time for India this year.!
There is only one way to deal with goons of all kind…reciprocate in kind..
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Not when you are alone… and there are ten of tme. One of whom is armed. No practical way. either you should know the Police and be willing to take a panga and have a ten yr litigation. Or you use police to give tem a scare back.
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
well its 1.11 .. India time. Crashing of to sleep now …
Anonymous Reply:April 18th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Just identify one..wait for your time and do the job.
Pakistan’s Army chief Kayani urges less spending on defence
Pakistan: Pakistan’s powerful Army chief on Wednesday said he would like to see the country spend less on defence, arguing that national security depended on development as much as on protecting borders.
Chief of the Army staff, General Ashfaq Kayani, said “peaceful coexistence” with arch-rivals India was vital to both countries and the welfare of the people should be a priority.
Earlier they informed India about the possible infiltration by the Taliban. Now this!
What is cooking? Are we seeing more realistic Pakistan establishment or ….. ?
Good morning gentlemen.
Love is blind and marriage is an eye opener.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 4:39 am
Would divorce be an eye surgery?
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:08 am
No experience cannot comment.
India test fires long-range missile Agni-V, joins elite club
India on Thursday test fired Agni-V, the country’s first long range inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM) from Wheeler Island, off the Odisha coast. The maiden flight test of Agni-V, was postponed on Wednesday. Bad weather conditions were cited as the reason.
First thaw? BJP says it will back pension Bill
Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley said here today that the Bharatiya Janata Party would support the government and facilitate the smooth passage of the pension bill (Pension Fund Regulatory and Development Authority Bill) in the budget session of Parliament. The budget session is set to reconvene post recess on April 23.
“We are not opposed to the pension Bill. We had sought a couple of changes that were agreed to by the government. But on other financial sector Bills such as the one on banking amendment that seeks to lift the 10 per cent cap on voting rights and the insurance Bill that seeks to hike the FDI limit to 49 per cent from 26 per cent, there is resistance from within the Congress itself,” he told The Indian Express.
Referring to one particular Cabinet minister, all of whose Bills are stuck in Parliament, Jaitley said, “In each case, the opposition started with ruling party members. The Congress party is opposing its own ministers,” he said. To another question whether the BJP can still support some of these Bills, he said, “Strategically it is not possible…as Napoleon said, when the enemy is committing suicide, you don’t disturb them.”
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 4:41 am
When enemy is committing suicide, you don’t disturb them.
Right you are, that is why I did a copy and paste of the particular para.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:00 am
we can even lend a helping hand.
Rashid Alvi says Abhishek Manu Singhvi has cold,
Singhvi’s doctor says, no cold. Looks like he has developed cold feet.
My friend in Bangalore says, Abhishek was singing this song while “frolicking” with the woman lawyer who wanted to be judge:
” bhiige honTh tere, pyaasaa dil meraa
lage abr saa, haa, mujhe tan teraa
jam ke barasaa de, mujh par ghataaen
tuu hii merii pyaas, tuu hii meraa jaam
kabhii mere saath, koii raat guzaar
tujhe subahaa tak mai.n hai.n, karuu.N pyaar haa”
But the media is collectively singing this vrind gaan:
“kuchh naa kaho, kuchh bhI naa kaho
kyaa kahanaa hai, kya sunanaa hai
humko pataa hai, tumko pataa hai
samay kaa ye pal, tham saa gayaa hai
aur is pal mein koi nahin hai
bas ek hum hain, bas ek Abhi hai……..”
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Singhvi developed cold feet, but he could not control his rest of the body
which became so hot that he ………….
In Uganda, we had Idi Amin
In West Bengal, we have Didi Amin
Idi Amin ate human flesh dish
Didi amin loves only fried fish.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:49 am
Didi amin also loves the flesh of all who oppose her
People would soon depose her
Unless COngress or BJP occupy her space
Bengal would lose the race
The next 34 years again would be of CPM
Bengal would be racing backwards to 1912, under them !
wehre is the joke of teh day?
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
I had posted a permanent joke about the media and Narendra Modi in reply to your post here, but the censor found it so hilarious that it was promptly censored!
Narendra Modi as a blogger on TOI
Skill Development: Strengthening Yuva Shakti
I would like to share with you an anecdote of a man I know, who repairs watches. One day a watch came to him for repair during which he noticed a manufacturing defect. He then wrote a letter to the watch manufacturing company based in Switzerland pointing out a defect in the design of their product. As it turned out, the points raised by this man proved to be correct and the company not only appreciated the point raised by the man but also had to withdraw the watches from the market.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 8:40 am
There may be many faults in Modi, but he is very sincere about development
in Gujarat. He is not corrupt and is a workaholic person, he not only plans
but makes sure that his plans are implemented. If other states follow him
where development is concerned, our country will become envy of the world
in few years.
Indians apni hartkaton se baaz nahin aayenge.
In a night club somewhere in Europe a girl was dancing in skimpy dress.
On one table an Italian put a note of Euro 100 in her bra, on another table
a French put Euro 200 at the same place. Then she came to a table where an Indian
was sitting. He took out an ATM card, swiped it between her b…..s and removed
Euro 300/- and quietly walked out of the club.
Indian banking everywhere.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Mohan let me also compliment you on your jokes. And even Shenoy Saab is catching up. This blog is becoming all the more exciting.
And whether Mr Sanjaydhawan is Vinod Sharma Sahib or not , his interventions are very interesting .( almost like those of Vinod Sharma Sahib)
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 10:23 am
this one is specially for you:
A guy walks into a bar and sees a sign that reads:
Cheese Sandwich: $1.50
Chicken Sandwich: $2.50
Hand Job: $10.00
He checks his wallet and beckons to the sexy bartender.
“Are you the one who gives the hand jobs?” he asks.
“Yes,” she purrs. “I am.”
“Well, wash your frickin’ hands,” says the man. “I want a cheese sandwich!”
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Shenoy Saab . Trust me it was not me .
Communists and ‘communal’ together?
Would love to read views of Manohar, Mahesh, Ravi
and Sanjay on this .
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Well BJP or Congress need to REPLACE the possible re-incarnation of CPM…
The Congress setback, Nirmal Baba and some very exciting IPL matches dominated TV this week
The Congress lost the MCD elections in Delhi in such spectacular fashion that within an hour of the first news reports, a thousand lotuses bloomed. “Kamal, kamal aur kamal” is how News 24 described the unusual phenomenon. In other words, kamaal hai. By lunchtime, the Congress rout resembled a drought and the TV screen was flooded with jubilant BJP supporters. Now, news channels recognise a disaster when they see one and here was a man-made tsunami of alarming proportions for the ruling Congress. TV reporters rushed from East Delhi to West and from North to South Delhi, surveying the damage. And the one person they held responsible for the wreckage of Congress’ hopes was none other than Delhi’s chief minister, Sheila Dikshit. Or to mix the lyrics of two filmi item numbers, “Sheila badnaam hui, Dilli tere liye”.
Agree. A joke for sure. Was there ever a doubt about the ‘master’?
Rohini suicide, husband held
New Delhi: The husband of Garima Vajpayee — who jumped to her death from a Rohini mall on Tuesday — was arrested in the case on Wednesday. He has been identified as Padam Vajpayee (36). Police said that Padam was arrested after Garima’s family alleged dowry harassment. He has been charged under Section 304B of IPC, a source said.
The couple lived in Paschim Vihar and has two children. Police said that on Wednesday, the couple had an argument after which Garima came to the mall where Padam owned an outlet. She went to the seventh floor of the mall and jumped. TNN
WTF, why does the police need to arrest the husband without any investigation? The couple had two children and that means they must have been married for some time. Did the parents of Late Garima Vajpayee ever received a dowry demand.
a) if yes then what did they do about it?
b) if no how could say that the death was related to dowry?
Where is Sanjay? (fixing cong problems?)
Where is Dr Shantanu? (going after a blond “Satyavathi”)
Where is Ravi??
Where is Egrich (regrouping Taliban??)
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Ravi calls RSS leaders Shalwarpahenkar and Golimarkar forgetting that these two terms define his Amir Hafiz Saeed more..Hafiz Saeed wears Shalwar and has been in Goli business for very long.
The terrorist and his supporters are hiding after their favorite party congress got routed in MCD poll. This is their calibrated response..when faced with difficult questions, all of them go in hiding.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
And Shan is avoiding this space probably bcause he won’t be able to defend Mamta’s antics!!
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
so much for rationality.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
U do keep revealing your humourous side once a while…
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Sanjay is temporarily withdrawn by the blogmaster. However, alternate arrangements are alreay in place for the censorship to go on undisturbed.
NOBODY NEED ENTERTAIN ANY FEELING OF RELIEF AT SEEING SANJAY BACK INTO VINOD SHARMA’S MAGIC BOX.
Last reports received about Shan say that he is not a doctor at all, but due to a mix up of identity, he got employed as a British government doctor.He also sighted at one of Mamta’s recent rallies.
Both Ravi and engrich are reported to be safely and happily back in their London gutteral abode.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Ravi as per his habit must be giving someone bl0wjob.
Gadkari has for the first time admitted that there is a problem between him and Modi. He also added that ambitious leaders are not good for the party.
I too feel that Modi is not a party man but is more concerned about his own growth. This is another reason I feel he is unfit to be PM.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
I think all parties should have a panel of four or five potential PM’s/
Though I think all members still think they are the potential PM’s. But probably some way the British Parties or the American Parties chose their candidates.
you have bowled a googly. It is not such a straight forward issue. Here is what Mohan wrote this morning:
“There may be many faults in Modi, but he is very sincere about development
in Gujarat. He is not corrupt and is a workaholic person, he not only plans
but makes sure that his plans are implemented…”
Let me add a few things. He was sent by BJP to Gujrat to take charge of the state. Before that he had never shown any ambition to enter electoral politics.
While the whole political class is discussing whether he is prime ministerial material, when he will throw his hat in the ring etc., he himself has NEVER EVER so much as hinted that he wants to be the PM. He is also NOT on record or off it saying what he rates himself as to the capability of bing a PM.
I am not a big votary of Modi for PM’s post, while I am sure he will make a great PM. My desire is to see the back of this sham UPA and that a pro-people dispensation installed.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
It will be a great blessing for India if Modi becomes the PM.
Time for all the “chors” to go home. We now need a builder of Sardar Patel’s mode/mould.
BJP should let him loose to campaign.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Modi as PM will be unacceptable to most of NDA allies. We need him as next Home Minister or may be Railway Minister. These both areas need urgent reforms.
Mamta’s case just shows that all parties need to rise above personality cults.
The older regional political parties…– the abdullas, the Badals, The mulayams, the Lalus , Karuna and sons, MGR and wives…
Its all about single personalites.
Even the COngress is a family cult… though it has the potential of becoming democratic and well organised.
Can India actually have parties which are not personlaity driven?
There will be family domination as long as our political party nomination process wrests with the party, and not with the people, like here in USA.
It is extremely difficult for a politician’s son/daughter/relative to get elected here just because he/she is the politician’s relative. Party does not nominate anybody for any seat. people select who their candidates should be, from Panchayat level (village) to county/district, state, federal levels.
Political party for the most part is an “idea” bearer – Democratic Party for a balanced approach between government/enterprise, Republican Party, especially with the current tea party dominance for a total free market unencumbered by regulation, government involvement, and for the most part for corporations to do stuff without caring for anybody.
The recent supreme court ruling here declaring corporations as “people” , allowing corporations to spend unlimited dollars for advocacy advetisements will upset this in the short/medium or even long term. A corporate support group, for example, can spend unlimited money to promote their candidate (say a politician’s son), put him in a very positive light, while caricaturing the opponent as out of touch, extreme etc.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
thanks for the input.
My fear is that winners of the panchayat level may not yield National level leaders capable of understanding Agni and IT.
We will probably still need a High command or a Central politburo or a Party president set up which first gets in four or five candidates, who then get selected becasue of polling by parties registered members.
One condition all parties should really evolve is to ensure is honesty happens and dynastic capturing of the party does not .
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
US citizens who want to vote in the “primaries” will register with the county (similar to India’ district) indicating their party affiliation – Democratic, Republican.
All elected seats, be it Panchayat member, state MLA, MP, State CM (Governor here), and President, along with the numerous other elected positions go through a primary election first, and then a general election.
For every seat, x number of people (Vijay, John, Mohan etc) will contest to be the nominee of the party on both parties’ sides during the “primary” process. The registered republican party members will elect Vijay as their republican party nominee for the Lucknow MP seat in the primary election.. Similarly, the registered democrats will elect the democratic nominee.
People can vote across the party lines in the general elections. So, Vijay and the democratic party candidate will face each other in general elections, and whoever wins become the MP from Lucknow. A registered republican voter who voted fro Vijay in the primary can vote for anybody he wants in the general election.
As you may know, the republican party is having their primary contests for their presidential nominee for the November election. Romney will be the nominee based on the results so far; however, the formal nomination will happen only after their party’s nominating convention in Tampa in the summer.
Similar primary process is happening all across the country for the senate, house, state MLA, county representatives etc.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
The good part is that it ensures that nobody can “capture” the party and promulgate a family rule. Local and natinal issues will also merge this way.
bad part for india would be that this is a bit complicated and would need fine tuning. The American system presupposes two or three national parties… having evolved this way.
Indians need to actually study this and the British method of selecting aspiring PM’s
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
You are right.
It takes few parties, mature democracy, more money etc.
The “family business model” will continue in India without some process like the US practice.
Another reason why the “family model” is absent in the US is due to the fact that it is extremely difficult to be corrupt/to steal money. So, in that sense, no family has any vested interest in political positions — In general, people who get into politics are those who generally want to serve, who want to create a better life for the next generation. Elections are generally fought on these themes.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
I think the key here is that political leaders cant steal so easily as they do in India. The motivations for coming to power are different.
In case the politician senses no chance of making kickback money or sees no scope of misusing law for his own business or fammily intierest, 80% of the current lot will jus tdrop off.
Of course there would be dishonesty in matured democracies too. But not Indian style, where most MPs have huge business interests powered by their position.
In case will come people who would lust to see their thougts and ideas implemented; who would want the respect which comes out of doing good work; status which comes out of adulation becasue of honesty.
The whole system can be turned upside down.
That is what we need to probe.
drug problems in Punjab..YTimes article – Jim Yardley -
May be Pakistan is behind in the supply.. This may be their way of destroying India. Hope there is a plan 1- to make sure this does not spread across India 2- all assistance is given to Punjab to contain this. Punjab is the last place in India I would have guessed something like this will happen.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Well, Pakistani Punjab is an opium den.
Opium and other drugs may be coming from across the border with commercial as well as an ISI perspective.
Why do you say “Punjab will be the last place for something ..” ? Punjabi farmers have too much disposable income for their children to buy/use these.
Times coverage of Missile launch by Heather Timmons. The China perspective is interesting
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Thnks for the link. For me the funny comment came from Praful Bidwai. Trust our lefites to have a CHina flag on their chaddi
He wants India to take China’s help… then declares that China’s missile program is legitimate… as it targets India and the rest of the world !
While India’s missile program is illegitmate as it targets China !
Wow some servile logic…
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Profool Bidwai is relic from the past…I just skip his blogs..Useless commie.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Real joker. I see him sometimes in Delhi… never talked to him though. Of course I am more tempted topull his ears !
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 4:44 am
if you so much as touch his ears, they will sprout proletariat blood. You can try his beard.
The “agni puthri” of India, role model for girls (and boys) to get into science education..
as I mentioned yesterday, this gives me four reasons to be proud -
An Indian, Malayali, Christian (not related to this Thomas), and a woman achiever! Go, Tessy, go!
~~~ WHAT MAMATA CAN LEARN FROM MODI ~~~~~
Mamta scared the nano project from Bengal so that it dropped into Modi’s lap in extreme west.
Now mamta’s East India should learn a few tricks from Modi’s West India.
I am highly impressed By Gujarat’s solar power initiative. Asia’s biggest solar village of 500 MW is partly functional now. Like Badal took advice from Modi and reversed his fortunes in the last year of his lacklustre ruel, Mamta can reverse fortune by picking up programs and ideas from Modi’s Gujarat.
Solar Energy could be good start. Whenever I have installed solar panels on houses or buildings the whole feel becomes different. Eco friendly, energy efficient and a message in that. Yhe tech has changed by leaps and bounds.
If mamta just builds up solar energy as her special initiatve… she can change her image.
Though I feel she wont have the vision too and most likely keep crying victimhood…
Some women become Tessys and fire real missiles… others become Mamta…
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Absolutely right . Mamta is a dud now..
tessy is India’s new face and future.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 4:30 am
Tessy, the Agni Putri, had a great part
The firebrand didi only knows to ****.
And whole of Islam is all about slavery of Sayyeds…
What happened to Bhangaarwala (Kabaadi) Sanjay? Looks like too busy clunking in Congress HQ…Poor guy is so insignificant, he doesn’t even get noticed by small fries like Shakeel Ahmed.
Pakistan Chief Justice Chowdhary hoodwinked the whole system and made it sure that Rinkal Kumari, Asha and Lata go back to their muslim husbands.
Just watch this debate and see how muslims treat others when in majority. See how host is behaving…He is so partial.
One day Indian muslims will have to pay for the sins of ******** across the border.
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
I do not understand much Hindi, but I get the gist. NYTimes has been covering this, including the latest ‘”decision”.
However, I disagree with your statement “Indian Muslims will …”. Indian Muslims are not involved in the kidnapping, conversion, forced marriage etc of these girls.
They could have organized a protest march against this – they always organize protest march against Israel’s treatment in the West Bank, or about US’ treatment of Muslims etc.
GOI should be ridiculed — they should have taken the issue to Pak Govt, or expatriated all Hindus from Pak.
Shameless Indians are pursuing trade with Pakistan!.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Indian muslims are made from the same fabric. They can truly be good INDIAN muslims if they show empathy for minorities across the border. The muslim mind works very differently..They want tolerance and secularism when in minority and TOTAL Islam when in majority. Indian muslims are just biding for their time when they will be sizable minority (25% plus) and then we will see mayhem (We have already witnessed in J&K, now slowly also witnessing same thing in Kerala and Assam).
The usual muslim howlers like Shabana Azmi, Javed Akhtar, Mahesh Bhatt, Teesta Setalvad didn’t even notice this event and they want hindus to sympathize with muslims…
If you knew hindi, you would have found many things in this video highly offensive.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 5:47 am
Well Rajeev, what did Hindus here do? They will sit this out as they did when their fellow Hindus/human beings were massacred in Sri Lanka, leave alone conversion.
Coming to think of it, what did the so called heroic Rajputs do in yester years? They willingly gave their daughters and sisters to Moghuls so they can get some gold or castle…
Anonymous Reply:April 19th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
This is one of the reason I can never trust Pakistan.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 5:13 am
Rajeev has reported about the happenings in Pakistan . let me report something about our country.
A story was reported in the Indian Express today on the 5th or 6th page as a snippet that a Christian couple and a local friend were externed from Bandipora by the J&K Police for distributing Christian literature . This has not beeneven taken notice of by the Knights of Indian Secularism including the host of this blog who also is a member of the NMC . This is the true face of Indian Secularism and that is why these fakes can never enjoy credibility.
Secularism as practiced by these fake secularists is nothing but a political device to encourage vote- bank politics. In the local MCD elections , almost all newspapers have reported that Congress bigwigs had appealed to Muslims to vote en-masse as a community .
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 5:23 am
My take is that Ambedkar and his team worked overtime defining minorities (with no mention of majority) in the constitution, instead of just stating all as Indians, and defining the rights of Indians..thus they created an opening for politicians to appease.
He focused on dividing the people, instead of focusing on how country’s resources will be allocated to the people – thus we have the never ending water disputes between karnataka/Tamil nadu on Kauveri, Karnataka/Maharashtra on Narmada et al
I can go on
If you want somethin very badly, you will definitetly get it
If you don’t get it that means you never wanted that badly enough.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 6:01 am
a good one!
Gopi, Mohan, Vijay Kumar,
this news has made me very sad and angry:
In its moment of celebration, DRDO leaves out ‘Agni putri’
As the Agni V missile thundered into the sky off the coast of Orissa on Thursday, it was a moment of triumph for Tessy Thomas, the scientist who broke the glass ceiling in the male-dominated arena of rocket science when she was appointed to head the Agni IV mission.
But the name of the woman who has played a crucial role in the development of the Agni series of missiles was missing in the press release issued by the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO). The release mentioned all other scientists present at the launch.
Looks like they mentioned only the “administrative” bureaucracy..may not have any ulterior move…
Anyway, let us hope, she will inspire many girls (and boys) will pick up Science studies — and not MBA .
Murtaz Razvi, an eminent journalist of Dawn newspaper in Pakistan is killed…
A fine journalist, he was against the ISI high handedness, increasing terrorism etc..
Sad that we can not read his columns any more.
A wonderul blog written by Pramit Pal Chaudhri today , also the links provided there to 3 articles on Nepal , Pakistan and Sri-Lanka. All articles are a treat to read.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 5:59 am
karunanidhi has already started fishing… He declared that there will be a Tamil nation in the north of Sri Lanka in the Jaffna region.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 6:54 am
That is the trouble with regional parties. In case htey lose… they start taking extreme positions without seeing the central national interest.
How many HIndu men are married to Muslim girls in Pakistan and still alive? One or two?
This gentleman must be really frustrated with his wife. He was heard telling his friend
‘ next month is my silver wedding anniversary, I am taking my wife to a nice peaceful
hill station at a remote place. I will again go there on our golden wedding anniversary
and bring her back ‘
His friend asked him why? This is what he said
‘ wife is a knife to the life ‘
I have always enjoyed your jokes including this one.
~~~~ THE BATTLE OF THE WOMB ~~ how Pakistanis unite to forcibly convert ~~
I hae been stressing that the Paksitani state and most people unite when it comes to forcibly convert minoirties, especially Hindus and CHristians. They even put forward coy suggestions that these are love marriages and we, the right wing are intruding in a matter of hearts !!
Manohar took this line.
Engrich takes the line which most of Pakistan takes. That these kidnapped girls are being converted to a better religion so what is wrong? In fact he boasts (in his earlier posting) that he has converted 10-12 girls himself.
My line is that Marriage, religion and relationships are a matter of heart. BUT >>> BUT>>> But…
WHat is being done in Pakistan is A PROACTIVE STATE WHICH CAPTURES THE WOMB SO THAT NON MUSLIMS ARE NOT PRODUCED. There is a conspiracy of silence which ensures that this act gets done smoothly and with a duplciotus facade… the same way they handle their terror program.
Here is one big question.
Show me ten HIndus who married Muslim girls in Pakistan, without converting to Islam themselves. WHat is the ratio of Muslim girls converitn to Hinduism to marry Hindus in Paksitan as compared to Hindu girls forcible married to Muslm men and accepting Islam.
There will be a conspiracy of silence on this now.
Here is an article from the International Herald Tribune:
Their logic is hard to argue with: why are Hindu men not converting? Why is it that only young girls of a marriageable age are surfacing in these cases? And if these girls are so keen to convert, why don’t they go to madrassas, learn the religion and then go through with it?
Shaking with rage, Amarnath Motumal of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), asked this barrage of questions at a press conference on Saturday. It was held with the tearful families of victims of forced conversions who demanded that their girls should be returned to them.
“When a girl is converted, why is she married off immediately?” Motumal said. “If she has converted for the sake of Islam, then why doesn’t she join a madrassa to educate herself and spread knowledge about the religion?”
He said that around 20 to 22 girls are being converted every month, but families do not go public as they fear the incident will ruin their reputation.
The family of 19-year-old Rinkle Kumari, who was allegedly abducted, forced to covert and marry a Muslim, claimed that they are receiving death threats.
“Take the case back or we will kill you all,” is the threat the family received on March 8, according to the Rinkle’s brother-in-law Inder Lal.
A frustrated Lal said that if Rinkle had converted and married of her own free will, she would have held a press conference immediately after the court’s decision. “For six days, she was quiet. It was only when the issue was raised internationally, that she came in front of the media.”
After the last court hearing in Sukkur, Rinkle appeared before the media and stated that she was not forced by anyone. But her family has stuck to its stance that Rinkle’s conversion to Islam and her marriage to Naveed Shah was forced.
“She did not even know the person,” exclaimed Rinkle’s father, Nand Lal, who is a primary school teacher in Mirpur Mathelo. “We have no internet or telephone connections at home, so there is no way she could have been in touch with Naveed.” He informed that Rinkle had recently completed her intermediate studies and two days before Rinkle was allegedly kidnapped, she was planning to go to Karachi to shop for her brother’s wedding.
While talking to The Express Tribune, the family provided new information about the alleged kidnapping. “Rinkle’s friend Kiran was the brains behind the plan. She took money from the kidnappers and gave them all the information about Rinkle,” accused Nand Lal. “We wanted to nominate Kiran in the FIR but the DSP refused.”
According to the family, Rinkle was kidnapped by armed men while on her way to the bathroom built in the courtyard.
“If she had planned to elope, she would have taken her slippers and her sweater,” pointed out her family members. “But she was kidnapped barefoot and without any warm clothes in the cold weather.”
The family, who are in Karachi for the time being, asked that Rinkle should be taken to a neutral place for at least eight days and be allowed to meet her family.
Rinkle’s mother covered her face with a dupatta and wept silently as the HRCP Sindh vice chairperson voiced the community’s troubles. “We can’t even sleep at night, wondering whether our kidnapped girls would become suicide bombers or would they be sold off into prostitution,” lamented Motumal.
He said that forced conversion is not a new practice, claiming that extremists are taking advantage of the religion by preaching at madrassas on how to convert non-Muslims.
“When an underage girl is forced to convert, she is not allowed to meet her family. She is told that the people who gave birth to her and raised her have become Kaafirs.”
The press conference was also attended by the family of 29-year-old Dr Lata Kumari, who was kidnapped on February 28 on her way to the College of Physicians and Surgeons in DHA. Her family alleged that she has been forcibly converted and married to Nadir Baig Dhar, the son of a suspended judge.
Lata’s father, Dr Ramesh Kumar, spoke out against the harsh treatment that the family received in the court on March 7. “The police did not even let us meet Lata at the first hearing of the case and they beat us with sticks,” said Lata’s mother, a hypertension patient. “The kidnappers did not leave burqa-clad Lata alone for even a minute. Nadir and his goons would come in front of me every time I approached her. I could not even look at my daughter properly.”
Kumar said that they knew Nadir from before, claiming that the accused had converted five Hindu girls already. According to Lata’s brother Vishal, Nadir works at the quality assurance department of a motor company.
“Lata clutched my arm and asked me to do something for her,” said a teary eyed Joti, Lata’s sister. “Why are the criminals not letting us meet her, what are they scared of?”
Kumar alleged that the signature on the documents were not Lata’s.
Lata, who has an MBBS degree from Larkana, used to live at the Aga Khan hostel and had worked as a medical researcher. Two of her siblings are also doctors and live in Hyderabad, while the rest of the family lives in Jacobabad.
During the press conference, another suspected kidnapping came up. People from Jacobabad said that a Hindu girl Asha Devi, who used to work at a beauty parlour, never made it home from work.
HRCP’s Badar Soomro condemned the forced conversions of the three per cent minority population in the country. “Why are the extremists after the minorities? Let them live freely.”
On March 8, the Supreme Court directed the Sindh police IG to find Lata, Rinkle and another Hindu girl Pooja Devi, and present them at the next hearing on March 26. However, the families were not hopeful. “They [the courts] record statements under section 164 and then the girl is sent immediately with the criminals,” said Motumal. “She is given no time to think about her decision or talk to her family.”
He suggested that the court should give such girls a week’s time to make up their mind, while they stay at the Darul Aman with their mother.
Published in The Express Tribune, March 11th, 2012.
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Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 10:21 am
India Gov could have lodged a protest against the forced conversions, as well as the general anti-minority environment that has been further worsened by the enactment of “blasphemy law”.
Muslims here who protest on a regular basis against the Israeli treatment of West Bank Arabs could have staged a protest march against this. At least as a PR gesture.
Also, as I mentioned earlier in a response to Rajeev, Hindus here could have raised their voice. But no. They remained silent when their fellow Hindus/human beings were slaughtered in Sri Lanka. And they are silent to this one now.
But what did the so called heroic Rajputs do yester years? They were glad to give their daughters and sisters to the mogul kings and the local Muslim nawabs in exchange for a pot of gold or castle…..
Well, the tradition continues – we want trade now — nothing has changed!
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 10:46 am
I think we should learn from the past. Indians , especially Muslims have to protest against this at th Pakistani embassy. If, nothing , the badnaami Paksitan gets will make some small changes in their attitude. On the home front, the Muslim protest at the Paksitani embasy will definately send a signal to doubters that Indian Muslims are different and are all for minority protection, secularism and against blasphemy laws.
I think we need to give open visas to the persecuted minorites of Pakistan. Nothing big about it. When 2 crore Bangladeshis can come and settle here… we can surely take in genuinely tortured minorities from pakistan.
In the end it just shows how wrong the Congress is by campaigning for votes on communal lines as it did in UP. It is bound to strenghten the forces of separatism and division.
I doubt whether this UPA government has the good of India in mind as it asks us to lower its guard against Pakistan. While the whole world is sick of it… we are attmpting to become its saviours.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 11:12 am
I am for granting visa/asylum to Hindus who want to get out of Pakistan..and close all ties toPakistan
On this story, Rajeev also shared a youtube link. I couldn’t watch the whole clip (36 minutes long). What I could make out from it was the fact that even the SC of Pakistan is not being fair. It asked the “victims” to record their statement to the police in their custody whether they wanted to stay with their husbands or go back to their family. The judge could have heard their statement in the court but he didn’t find it a wise thing to do. On 26th March, at least one of the girls had stated that she wanted to go back to her family.
Can’t expect better from any Pakistani institution.
Staying on Pakistan, here’s a good one…
“Pakistan should never hand over Hafiz Saeed to India as India will start spending billions of rupees for his food and security.”
Taslima Nasreen Author
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Taslima is probably right.
If Hafeez is sent here… he can reasonably be sure that his name would be put behid Afzal guru and Kasab… which would ensure that he lives for 50 years more.
India doesn’t have to spend crores on “looking after” Hafiz Saeed. If he sees the progress made by India with his own eyes, within a few months he will die of jealousy.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 11:17 am
We can even show him singhvi video to torture him
All those wanting Orders to be passed against the Gujarat Govt , move the SC now .
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 10:52 am
With this video moving around, his political career is about over. The country will not accept a law Minister or even a party spokesman. Was there any mention of giving some government job of high level for gedtting this favour? Could not hear as I had turned off the sound… was in office and as usual pretending to be working!
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
It looks as if he too was pretending to be ‘working’.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 11:53 am
really gr8 !!
Kaam aur kaamsutra ki doori poori kar di !
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I pretend to have not watched the video in the above link.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Of course all in the AICC office too have pretended not too have watched it with their eyes CLOSED.
Some were wondering whether he was swearing on the law books… but then they never saw it.
I think the curse of swearing Modi Modi all the time is coming back . First to Vir Sanghvi and Barkha and now to him.
The issue is that did Aaj Tak really have somehting so deadly in its possession– like offering judgeship– that this government would have fallen.
Imagine the implication. You hire a decison maker for a certain performance and then is not the decison maker going to give you favourable decisons?
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Looks like a Aamr Singh doctored one…..
“The Central government on Friday said that the Kerala police had no authority to detain the Italian ship ‘Enrica Lexie’. The Centre told the Supreme Court that the Kerala Police Station had no jurisdiction to detain the ship or probe the incident as the incident occurred on high seas. ”
CM of Kerala says that he took all steps after consulting the Centre. If this was the satnd of the GOI what was the need for all the Tamasha ? Wonder what was the influence which brought such a change in the GOI ’s position. After all we had all read about the two Italian marines although in police custody were put up at the CISF guest house as guests of the State.
Wonder what was the influence which brought such a change in the GOI ’s position?
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
The Kerala CM initially didn’t allow the Italian marines to be shifted to the CRPF guest house and then had to relent. Now, the centre has changed its stand in the SC that the incident took place within Indian waters.
I love the Kerala Police arguement on this developing story…
What does the law say on this?
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
The Italian ship/marines issue is not getting much local coverage here.
The big thing here is how Muslim League twisted UDF/Congress to get another – fifth- ministerial berth. Congress already has a Muslim minister, so with this new addition there are six Muslims in the cabinet – out of 20 ministers.
There is a lot of coverage, mostly neagtive, on this.Even the Msulim minister from Congress is against this. There are all sorts of horse-trading happening.
The way things are, Muslim League can ask for a few more ministerial slots, because UDF will collapse without Muslim League support
~~~~ CONGRATS TO VINOD SHARMA ! ~~~~
Amid the heat and dust of the arguments on this blog, let me congratulate you for the Title of the blog.
Merciless Mamata !!
Her love is certainly merciless. Aisa pyaar toh dushmanon ko mubarak ho… !
India Today is running a cover story called the “Booby trap.” It is about breast enhancement.
Well, find it strange that somthing which is now found to be explosive in france– with silicon implanted 30 years in various breasts “xploding” should be such a huge issue.
In the end are the girls preffering to switch over from delivering “the milk of human kindness’ to “ice igloos of hard frigidty…” ?
~~~~ BANGARU LAX MAN WAS WRONGED~~~ congressis please apologise ~~
Sanjayji and Vinodji, please come out of retirement and give comments
Let is compare two CDs. In one Bangaru aLaxman is deliberately induced with a paltry sum of Rs 50,000/- for a fake deal in which he promises NOTHING !! tehelka and its trolls and pimps (they supplied whores to army) just forcibly hand over the money
In the second
The Congress chief spokesman
a) Does yaun uthpeedan and promises judgeship in case of BJ ( Blow J_ _) and probably expects court decisons to favour congress
b) his party chief smiles and dismisses issue as that of love
c) Congress does nothing
d) The sanctity of the supreme court has been spoilt by BJ and moral turpitude in remises
Tauba Tauba Tauba… Yeh sab kya ho raha hai????????? Kya girawat hai congress mein !! Tauba Tauba Taub!!!
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Abhishake ne Soniaji ko wo haseen din yaad dila diye..Unko to inaam se nawaza jana chahiye.
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I think Abhishek’s rather tepid performance is reflective of the tepid performance of the COngress in the past few elections
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Was that lady with Abhishake our Ravi in wigs?
Anonymous Reply:April 20th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Raviji has been absent from the blogs
Is he in the bogs?
or does he now wear a wig
and delive B jobs
Akbar is probably among the top ten journos of India !!!
VIndo Sharma is also among the top… as long as COngress doesnt come into the pic. See his blogs on the NE and Dev Anand and for that matter on Jagjit Singh. Bass yeh Congress ki gulami ke karan… apni position consolidate nahi kar paa rahe..
C’mon Vinodji… dump this losing Congress and dynastic worship…
And see how we all salute you …
Really inspiring article. Gujarat now has 66% of India’s solar capacity.
I think Modi’s personel advise to Badal to resurrect his image got Badal to install solar in Punjab over canals in a big way.
Unfortunately , as you would notice on this blog, msot people would spend their time villyfying Gujaratis , rather than trying to learn governance which is getting so many breakthroughs there.
Mamta can go for solar. But she wont.
Jaya probably would…
Congress states would just look at Rahul g for instructions. But would never get insprired enough to copy Modi on this…
Even after the whole world has watched with hilarity and mirth the congress party’s chief of media cell on a CD indulging in sexploitation, Sonia Gandhi has shown great amount of “understanding” and spared Abhishek Manu Singhvi of the rod.
Madamji, there is this saying, “spare the rod and spoil the children”.
You are actually encouraging others like Manish Tiwari etc. to exploit such situations.
Dirty video and subversion of system.
This is not only about sex, but what is being promised in return.
These people at prominent places in government are prepared to compromise anything.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 5:36 am
That is what I have been stressing from day 1. The system is being sold for sex and money. THE BIG STORY IS SELLING GOVERNMENT POSTS FOR SEXUAL FAVOURS…
Congress watch out. Sabka haath ab thapadd ban gaya hai…
~~~ CONGRESS NEIN COURT KI MARYADA BHANG KAR DI ! ~~~~
There are two aspects of the dirty video of the COngress spokeman.
a) Is fornification alowed in court premises. One has to check out the relevent PENal acts to decipher Manu Singhvi’s penis act.
We need to temember that Congress was a party of fantastic lawyers once. Wonder what lawyers like Gandhi, patel and Nehru would have said about fornification in court premises by a congresman
b) The promise of judgeship for the sexual favour. Gandhi aur nehru ke desh mein yeh girawat kaisi? This is gross gross gross abuse of position and power.
The CBI should swing into action and media for once should probe the genuine CD.
I have a feelign that the BJP will be too decent to the COngress on this. The BJP has Jailtey who was good freinds with Manu and his father LM Singhvi. They would let COngress of the hook
Would be sad if the COngress is let off and then they would see the same Congress start shouting Modi Modi rape rape and see it misuse the CBI .
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 7:17 am
Thre is another aspect to the issue. The driver is said to have conceded before the court that he got the CD fabricated etc in Bihar. That he wanted a large amount of money from Singhvi . The Court hastily accepted this contention and granted permanent injunction. But is this man not liable to be prosecuted criminally. The Court it appears was in a hurry to bring an end to this episode and has ignored and has not gone into this aspect. The shopkeeper in Bihar who allegedy fabricated this CD is also liable to be prosecuted . Let us see how this case proceeds now. I spoke to lawyer friend of mine from the Delhi High Court. He had seen the video on the very first day and disclosed the identity of the Lady advocate also. Presently she is believed to be abroad.
Ok won’t comment about her.
Yes Shenoy Saab … that was the name I had heard , but I did want to mention it on this public forum. But Shenoy Saab kindly exercise more restraint when talking of courts or judges.
On the Net I have also seen news item that the present C J of India had rejected and sent back a panel of 5 names recommended by the Delhi High Court collegium , for appointment as Judges, and this name was in that panel.
Dont havw any illusions of the present set of ladies i hi fi positions. You can read about SImran sood who had no qualms about murdering or Maria susiaraj who chopped her lover to pieces. NDTV today,talks about one Ms Patel in Washington who asked he husband to expect a sexual oil massage and then poured gasoline over him and lit him up.
Point is girls today are equally complicit in illegal activites. Kani mozhi took the stance that she is maa behn and biwi so 200 crores should be forgotten and Nalini takes the stance that she is maa, behen and biwi so free me despite the killing of the PM.
Wwe suffer from illusions that ALL girls are soft and understanding and innocent. That is NOT so.
Had Ms Salwan not dangled herself,
SInghvi might not have mangled himself…
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
I like the response and the last rhyming stanza the most.
yes, today’s nari is no abala. She can be a decoit, robber, knifer, lifer, murderer, cheat, 420, fixer, charmer, thief and all other things, which men hate.
In Malayalam, we have a usage “Thakarnna Tharavad” . Both these words are not easily translatable to other languages. “thakarnna”, sort of means decayed from within, decayed through deliberate actions of inheritors, decayed beyond redemption etc. “tharvad” is the ancestral house, lineage, heredity…. Some Tharvads like Palat (of ex foerign secretary Shiv Shanker Menon) produces generations of foreign secretaries (KPS Menon, PN Menon, Shiv Shanker etc) and scientists (MGK Menon) and stalwarts in other fields time and time again, whereas other Tharvads decay and self
destruct becoming “thakarnna tharavad” ..
Has India become a “Thakarnna Tharavad” ? now that we have started selling judgeships for sexual favour? Shouldnt judgeships be a little higher priced?
This was not reported by media.
During President Zardari’s recent visit to India, our PM had asked him that what
steps he was taking to curb terrorism in Pakistan. Zardari said ” Trust me, we
are taking very serious steps to curb terrorism in Pakistan as you are doing
to curb corruption in India “
Where have all these regulars and not so regulars gone.?
Manohar, Shan, Ravi, Ashish, Mahesh, Balwinder, Dr. Mishra, Vinay.
This blog needs different views from all of you.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 3:40 pm
you have studiously avoided mentioning Sanjay.
You think he is always present on the blog invisibly?
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Sometimes I find myself unable to reply to the ‘innocent’ query raised.
This is one of those times.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Sanjay must be working overtime to fix the CD fiasco..
May be Manohar too. (sorry, Manohar!)
Balwinder had a health problem when he visited Agra, hope he is OK now.
Dr Shnatanu must be helping out Didi or he may have found out his Satyaavthi.
Ravi must be writing his seminal book “4000 Rapes and Devdasis, not ancient as they tell you”
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
U r turning out to be pretty pretty witty !
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Very good one. I have to come up with more jokes as competition
for me is growing.
I am in a deeply introspective mood right now after seeing the photos.
Why, why did you, Dr.Singhvi, risk your life’s achievements for the sake of a few minutes’ rolling in the buff with a surrendered woman?
What was your family’s fault? WHy did you forget about them?
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Power aur Kaam ki hawas mein aadmi haiwan ban jaata hai. Quite possibly the woman might have said, “I am giving myself to you… and you can expect all judgments from hereon… to be similar…”
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
We will still see Mrs. Singhvi coming out in defense of her husband as she
would like to maintain harmony at her home.
Long live Bharatiaya Nari.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
My feelings are with mrs Singhvi and one can empathise with her.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
He must have seen his wife in the other woman — both sort of look alike, although the wife is quite elegant and classy looking (may be she was not giving “that” to him because his looks do not match hers!)
Mohan is right; she will come in defence of him! long live bharathiy nari as he says
~~~HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES ~~~
Well all of us ae vulnerable. Detection equipment have changed. Cams have changed.
And men and women have changed. I know of cases where decent guys have been caught on cam by their friends and then blackmailed. We all know of the DPS guy who shot pics of his school girlfriend and circulated them around.
Similarly they have been cases where call girls have shot their clients. Shot dirty videos that is…
So all of us have to be carefull….
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 4:15 pm
You are right about this. Few years back here in Dubai a school girl
in her teens was tricked by her boyfriend and videographed her in a
compromised position. She committed suicide.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
I think indians will have to come around to accept the new sexuality prevailing somewhere, even if they dont like it.
In the Aarushi murder case in Noida, nobody, including me, is ready to accept that a mother and father– both educated could kill their child. But the CBI is now coming to that conclusion, now.
Well looking back , in the end the parents should have reacted differently. Maybe tried to explain to the girl, wean her away from the servant… whatever. Difficult to accept. But then India is changinf for good or bad…
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
I hope a sociology professor does some research into these unbelievable type crimes.
One thing I notice is that there is more “honour of the family” type killings in the North or among certain groups in the North – brother killing sister (with the agreement of parents!), parents killing daughter (like this Arushi situation, to be proved).. May be there is more a “tribal” sense (affiliation with a group) there..
I wonder if it has to do with the legacy left behind all the invasions……
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
You are quite right on this. North is backward in this matter and it reflects in the higher degree of female foeticide.
I think it has partly to do with the interaction with the cultures of the invaders. Where female virginity and “purity” is valued while for males it is not so important. Now of course how are all the males supposed to be having it… unless they have some females as partners?
There are double standards which will not be easy to eradicate.
I think out here the role of a woman beyond Maa, behen aur biwi is still to be accepted outside of towns.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Ask a young boy what type of wife he wants, the usual answer will be
Sati savtri type, and ask him about girlfriend he will say that she should be of
Modern outlook, wearing short dresses, interested in clubbing and all
such qualities. Actually we all are bunch of hypocrites.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
I think there has to be some evolution on this… now!
hypocrisy was fine for yesteryears… now we need to move further on…
Effects of marriage.
Sher ki shaadi mein ek chuha naach raha tha. Dost ne Poocha tum kyon
naach rahe ho? Chuhe ne kaha ‘ Aaj mere Bhai ki shaadi hai ‘
Dost ‘ sher tera Bhai kaise hua ‘ Chuhe ne jawab diya ‘ shaadi ke pehle
mein bhi sher tha ‘
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Gud to have u back.. Unfortunately now I am about to dose off… so definately will keep u in mind as a dialogue consultant…
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Thanks Vijay for the offer. I am not as good dialogue writer as you presume. You will certainly have better ones. This being weekend, and as boss is not around here, I have become bold to tinker with keyboard.
Importance of being Fauja Singh .
Read on about this amazing person at :
Search for him on You tube to find how un-believably healthy a person for can be even at 100 .
p.s. for UK folks : Tomorrow’s London Marathon will see this person participate in the event (probably his last marathon before retiring from the long distance racing events) . If possible, feel free to take your time off and meet / greet the person and be blessed with inspiration.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Fauj Singh is indeed an Indian legend who inspires the world. Een if we can’t run the marathon… we can at least try to run/jog some 200 -300 metres at keast everyday… just to keep our joints moving…
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
He is of Indian origin and currently a British National.
In either case, neither of it matters much.
Also, there is more to running than just Joints.
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Well I try to run for 30 minutes daily and appreciate the effect it has on my heart rate, blood circulation, mental stamina and general well being…
Anonymous Reply:April 21st, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Good . Stretch the duration to 45 mins, 1 hour – whatver possible, add about 300 Skips (preferably using skipping rope) to those minutes of running. Have more fun.
So Didi now wants to have her own state newspaper and state TV to fight against others who spread “bad news” about her and her administration!
Her citizens can eat news food instead of real food!
Back to Amazon topic…..
It is not just about Amazon turning into Monopoly. There is more to it here.
The kind of capitalism we are witnessing has gotten way more complex , complexity being not just the operations but consequences as well .
During early days of 2008 Financial crisis – a popular argument was made about regulatory framework lagging behind the development. In that sense – the picture is far more murky in this part of world . Plus the social safety net is very weak. This complicates the situation much much more. We may not even know what hit us – or is already hitting us.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 am
What is hitting India currently is maoism and protests.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 5:13 am
Regulation is always behind innovation. It is always enacted in response to a problem caused by innovation – for example the balance sheet requirements, derivative restrictions, asset securitization limitations etc for the U*S financial institutions in response to Wall Street meltdown
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 am
While I agree with your argument at its face value – recent history has been at variance from it and hints at lack of willingness to regulate, which IMHO is a bigger problem . Notice – despite severe problems – the regulations on financial industry have not been exactly forthcoming.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 am
Mahesh capilalism keeps evolving. The net has got us to talk on this forum … so you cant blame the net for Amazon using it to sell. Main part is the taxes … which country gets them.
The other part is smaller businesses need to keep playign smartly and keep evolving.
All big retailers eventually buy from the small guy.
Many of the big malls in Delhi have collapsed, but the colony grocery shops thrive. There are many twists to this tale.
I like buying books from the net… as I can read a chapter and choose the book. But buying clothes or medicine or getting a sauna or haircut is impossible.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Regulation is part of that evolution you are hinting at.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 10:59 am
Regulation needs to keep evovling.
The biig guys too keep tumbling. That is part of evolution.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Can you be a bit clear here ?
Saw movie Vicky Donor, nice different movie. Punjabis and Bengalis will specially
about Bihar CM – Brookigs Report…
Classic example of a life partner.
Someone who will stand by you through all the troubles which you would
not have had if you had stayed single.
Missing people from the blog.
Mohan commented about some people missing from the blog. I have a feeliing that 2-3 of them might have been shamed by the latest seedy CD. Maybe they are trying to find a BJP and Modi link.
here are a few lines they can work on
a) The Driver was BJP, paid by Modi
b) The female artiste was BJP and linked to Modi
And now the mother of all conspiracy theories
c) The Principal actor and party spokesman starring in the CD , was BJP agent… out to defame the Congress !!!!!
I think she is sick and needs treatment.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
who? the camel or the captain?
Can you control your urges ?
A new army captain was assigned to an outfit in a remote post in the
African desert. During his first inspection of the outfit, he noticed a camel
hitched up behind the tent. He asked the sergeant about this to which he
replied ‘ Sir, as you know there are 300 men on this post and no women, and
sometimes men have urges. That is why we have this camel. Captain said ‘ I can’t
say that I officially agree with this, but I understand about urges, so the camel
can stay . ‘ After about a month the captain started having his own urges. Crazy
with passion, he asked the sergeant to bring the camel to his tent. Putting a
ladder behind the camel. the captain stood on it, dropped his pants and had a
wild sex with the camel. After he was done, he asked the sergeant ‘ Is that how
the men do ?’ Sergeant replied ‘ Not really sir, they usually just ride the camel
into the town where the girls are.’
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 am
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
This is wild and a beast of a joke!
Bengal is funny and thrives on victimhood.
As per the mail today report it needs 22000 crores for sevicing debt and it generates revenu of 21000 crores only. It is loath to raise taxes but keeps blaing the centre.
it has money for starting a TV channel but will not have the strength to change the work culture…
The TV cahnnel will continue tales of victimhood by centre… other states, global capitalism… etc etc.
So much for the mamata’s merciless revolution….
Well I run for 30 mts and walk for another 30, Nice to see birds in our stadium in the morning…
And soetimes if time permists… some cricket or yoga or tennis… sab time ki baat hai…
Abhishek Manu Singhvi’s sex tape was not doctored. IT WAS LAWYERED!
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Good comprehensive article.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
Interesting part is the same media found a Modi link in the Nityananda sex tape, as per this article.
That is why I think the media is prsently silent and is brainstorming on how to find a modi link.
Dont be surprised that by Monday suddenly 1000 media men jump like monsoon frogs and start shouting, ” Modi Modi… when Manu singhvi was doing it… he was moaning… Moo moo aah aah… daa daa iiiiii..
In case we do a precis of the moan… it will sound like Modi.. !”
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
you are right. I can give the required fodder to the congress mills:
Modi’ cook belongs to Darbhanga in Bihar from where Abhishek Manu Zing-vi’s driver too hails.
And my information is that Modi gave, through his cook, Rs.1crore to the driver to prepare a genuine CD, which is now in India Today’s possession.
Modi, Modi, half rape, half consensual sex!
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
A very good analysis.
There is another relevant item about Nityananda that w as not widely published. The root reason for going after him was his refusal to sell his property ( in a prime location in a Chennai suburb) to Karunanidhi DMK guys.. he was threatened, he reported to police, and police would not do anything, except persuade him to give the property away.. the CD came after that. My understanding is that Jayalalitha govt has now a case regarding this attempted land grab and the police inaction.
Obviously UPA has the power to silence media so swiftly as they have shown here in the Sanghvi situation. I wish they deploy this efficiency in other matters too- like CWG stadium, army procurement, food distribution…..
Looks like even Manu Joseph has been bought out (he was on his way to be bought out after Radia –he is no more in the poor journalist club)..
Now my question is whether a third party can file a case about the alleged conversation about the judgeship sale now that the driver has admitted the CD is fake?
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Gopi, Vijay Kumar, Mohan,
all of you will like this one:
Abhishek Manu Zing-VI sexcapade video wasn’t shown by the media because it comes under UPA’s RAGACHY – “Rajiv Gandhi Ashleelata Chupao Yojana”!
And the paid media followed it.
(I hope Ashish reads this).
I am sure – with all these years in life – you know the difference between spectacular and devastating .
I am not passing “wholesale blame” to capitalism. My argument has been about the complexity and our inability to grapple with it. Plus also the lack of willingness.
I look for symbols of India at different places and don’t necessarily feel compelled to make strenous connections. I am surprised you bring repudiation here at all. A little curious – did you at all watch his YouTube clips ?
here is the link.. Hope the guys in India can comment on this
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 11:32 am
gr 8 article. I think Nitish could well be a fantastic NDA PM.
Why narendra modi and Nitish succeed is becasue they dont have to feel inferior to a dunce prince or follow norms of family sycophancy.
Nitish still has to show us how he will get big ticket FDI in and as well as get industrial production going in a convinceing manner.
BUT BUT,,, BUT…
For all who scoffed against my in depth analysis against family rule…
Nitish is far far far far better than the Lalu and Rabri dynasty whih bought down Bihar to the lowest levels of poverty….
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 am
Good one – my parents live there. I could see the changes in the state (as mentioned in the article) when I visited them last.
Thankfully, poeple are appreciating good work and rising above their caste to vote for him and the NDA alliance.
After Agni V, we have this seedy CD of Abhishek Singhvi, which has put a new ZING in the sex life of congress politicians. So he can be given the title of ZING-VI.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
After seeing the picture of his elegant wife, I have this feeling that she does not give “it” to him, he being so-so in looks and a bit older…….
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 12:04 pm
honestly, my heart refuses to accept that Abhishek had to seek “it” from a fellow lawyer. How did he face his wife after the CD became viral on the net? Can he honestly tell her that it was dactored or that it was lawyered? The media, being pliant, has accepted the ‘doctored’ verdict. But is his wife so gullible?
I believe she is a sufi singer.
I have a theory – Sanjay is Abhishek
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Well where has sanjay gone… or is he reading this and smiling?
Would generally love to have his reaction on the CD business.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
He is Abhishek….
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Does this means that this blog has become so famous that an important
person from Congress could not stop himself from participating ?
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
This blog certainly is pretty popular. I lnow a lot of people who read it without commenting. As far as Sanjay goes I dont think he is Abhishek as he himself was surprised by the CD, the day it was released.
Where have the birds gone? (especially the bird that announces “Vishu” in kerala) – environment, globalization, consumerism, land use…
Ghadha Sherni se ” Darling I love you ”
Sherni ” Chal phut, Shakal dekhi hai ”
Gadha ” Shakal ko maar goli, neeche dekh neeche”
Sherni ” Oh my god, .. I love you too darling “
Gr8 one !
Let me shake up things a bit !! Vijay style…
Have the Sanghis… the so called Sanghis and accused to be Sanghis, finallly won that the family worshippers and COngressis have gone into hiding and have no face to show???
C;mon guys, If you have surrenderd, your silence would be eloquont. If you have still some arguments left… raise you hand and say that you still have life.
Or maybe is the CD shaming everyone into silence that “Iss par kya spin lagao… yahaan toh sach obvious hai…”
Now that we are in a generally quiter period of the blog, let me throw up an issue and get an answer from you — based not on your opinion– but in the historical context.
The core issue of nationhood. What defines a set of people to stick together as a nation.
Now let me expand this a bit. Take the british. Their own families are splitting wide open– with kids being born to single parents, , but they look up at their royal family as some sort of great entertaining representative of Briton. They may have ruled the world by dividing, but in the end will not be able to hold scotland or Ireland in the UK, when the percieved attraction of the British royal family goes down.
We have seen the Soviet Union splitting from what Stalin stitched it to become. Czechs tearing theslves into pieces, Canada often shakes with French and English at loggerheads,
Closer home many of us beleive tht the already split Paksitan will only achive peace when Baluchistan and Sindh separate.
The US too is facing a challenge to its core values of global domination thru capitalism and God as its saviour.. Though probably because of the vary nature of the melting pot… will not face internal challenges.
So.. let me throw up this question. What finally gets people to stick together…as a nation?
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:09 pm
I do not think there is a single element or a universal element. A lot depends on experience, pain, history, values etc etc. May be we can take three countries – the oldest democracy and one of the youngest countries -USA, one of the smallest countries -Israel, and us- India.
Americans are one of the most patriotic in the world, although may be more than 50% of its people are fairly new there, with their ancestors coming over to there in the last one or two generations. Founding fathers are revered there. Historians like David McCullough even now write about obscure days in the lives of Jefferson or Adams, it becomes a best seller, people buy it in droves. Elections are fought on the “vision of founding fathers”. Chinese Amricans, Hispanic Americans, Japanese Americans etc join the military and fight for the country.
So, as far as USA is concerned, the root belief in the right to liberty, life, and pursuit of happiness binds people together from all over the world who migrate there. There is a belief in institutions, rule of law, work and reward, individualism and community etc. A country without much history improvises history with Washington’s story about cutting the tree, or a sleepless night Lincoln had etc..Museums and “historical places” preserve and cultivate the connections. So, the American glue is the shared sense of the constitution, the freedom that emanates from it. Young people fight and die in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan for this “freedom”.
Israel is a different situation – for Jewsih people all over the world it is a Phoenix out of the ashes of 2nd World War, out of all the historical prejudice they say they experienced from time immemorial. So, it is a country claimed by not only Israelis, but all Jews all over the world as their ancient land God gave them. The “semitism”, “zionism” functions as a glue, rather than any constitution or any great notion about humanity or man – because if they believed in any great notion they will not be subjugating the west bank and other settlements.
India is different from these two, I will put it in a continuum between these two.
I will provide my theory and analysis later. But if you are worried about a scenario of undoing the nationhood, I would say it will not happen. I would further say that if at all it were to happen, the seeds were sown in the constitution by Ambedkar and co, and the seeds grew into plants (more like weeds) later by the actions and inactions of the people who came after.
Wonderful. As usual brilliant analysis. Will eagerly wait for your post on this subject
on India, the country because of which without knowing each other we all are still glued
together on this blog.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:42 pm
MOhan your jokes will definately hold India together and make it rock…
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 pm
That is a brilliant observation – I second it
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Great answer and a lot of food for thought. So it really is some common strand which excites people.
US does manage to get its migrants ready to fight for it, though at times migration is subject to first enrolling for its army. Still it remains the country to have gone for most wars based on ideology— korea, vietnam, Kuwait, Afghaniztan (where it went becasue of a hit). The list is long.
One thing obvious is the sense of excitement it creates because of its percieved values– whether liberty or whether hard cash, and the acceptance it gives to the migrant.
Isreal has been created out of a vacuum of a historical injustice embeded in the jewish mind.
India… well it really did become a complete nation after Patel pushed the reluctant Kings into a certain direction, otherwise many of them would have chosen a wrong path. Today corruption is also a negative factor which is common to most of india now… !
I think we need mechanisms for continous creation of excitement for nationhood. Just a passing thought…
Would love to continue the discussion…
will elaborate tomorrow — going to sleep now..
Now you are regreating, I warned you people not to hit too hard. What is this blog without them.This peace feels like a peace in a cemetry. Ravi, Engrich, Manohar, Sanjay and Mahesh. ..Tum sab ko chhod kar aa jao, aa jao, sab kuchh chhod kar…
Ravi Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I am far too busy giving blow jobs from the gutter.
It is mightily difficult to talk when one’s gob is being pounded by a phallus.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Important also not to talk as somthing can be bitten of.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
No body can CONTROL no body. It is for individual to check oneself. You know, I had been there, and I understand than many people, why a particulatr language is used. it is to intimidate, and if one gets intimidated, it is one’s weakness. I can, I hope so, put people on defensive, without using derogative words. In certain situation, even I will be intimidated for a moment, but then, I will find my way around. I was not coming to blog, for excessive work myself. It is weekend, and I am comparatively free.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
He is just making excuse. The team is embarrassed about Singhvi episode and don’t want to comment on it.
This is their old tactics..
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Yaar, ab kaise samjhhaun tumhe. Please do what ever you want to do. I am not a sympathiser of present day congress or it’s grossly corrupt avatar of present. Now it has become king of financial, moral and political corruption. My congress was different. But bagair rakeebon ke jindagi main maja nahin hai. Ranjish hi sahi….
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
My comment about BJ was metaphorical. He usually sucks up to the person who provides him protection on the blog.
As far as Congress is concerned, this party should now get dissolved as per Gandhi’s wishes. It has extracted a very high price from Indian for the freedom it won under Gandhi.
Pankaj#1 Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
You are right here Rajeev, about dissolution of Congress, as wished by Gandhi. That visionary had seen future.
I also know, that your reference to BJ was metaphorical. In my youth, I was quite prone to move to physical violence after verbal, hence perforce, I taught myself to remain calm, even in the presence of verbal duels. That was a mazboori and necessity to go forward in life.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 am
I really value your advise but I am a veteran blogger who posted on Pakistani forums for years so my style has always been aggressive. However for last few years I have realized that I should worry more about Indian matters than its foreign relation. Our country is being royally screwed by Sonia Gandhi and gang.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
‘Bagair rakeebon ke zindagi mein mazaa nahin hai.’
Sahi kahaa aapne.
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Yes all Congressis are very embaressed. Even Singhvi had talked about the Chaal , Charitra of the BJP when commenting about the Gujarat non porn scam. Seems God delivered a boomrang.
For me the big story will always be, whether the position of the judge was being offered to the lady. And whether to get the position, she chose to make Singhvi “happy.”
Of course the side issue will always be on what the senior icons of the Congress would have thought of fornification in court premises. Imagine Gandhi, nehro and Patel were all lawyers…
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 4:56 am
Pankaj ji, Rajiv, Vijay Kumar,
all this levity of fake Ravi, about giving blow jobs to engrich is sham effort at hiding the deep embarrassment and paralysis the Singhvi-Zingvi sexcapade has hit them with.
The fact is these congressi naukar-chakars are a deeply shamed lot, much as they are shameless in these matters.
And these trolls are very well aware that bloggers like Shoeb, Ashish, Vinoo, Vinay, AAloke etc are all occasional bloggers, as against these trolls, who, along with Vinodji’s proxy, are accounting for more than half of all posts here.
A very poor excuse..You have been absconding from the blog for far longer.
You and your supporters co-ordinate your postings on this blog. When Congress is in gutter, you all go silent and come back when it is safe.
By the way, if you don’t come back ever on this blog, I’ll certainly not miss you. Who misses a terrorist sympathizer?
Anonymous Reply:April 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Agree with you. We need all of these on this blog, so what if our views differ.
Naarazgi chodo aur vaapas a jao.
Feeling sleepy now…
Ab tumhare hawale hai yeh blog saathiyon…
Folks , I had decided to abandon India , after ashish posted something about NRI’s and their feeling for India. Somehow it feltlike somebody holding a mirror. It is true “Do I ever want to come back and settle in India ” , Sadly the answer is No .The reason being , we are perceived as FOREIGNERS.also having lived for so long in the west , your sensibility changes , YOU REALLY CAN’T GO WITH THE FLOW. and the wretched poverty all around becomes unbearable.The FACT IS IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING “the crabs” won’t let you.
As far manu sanghvi’s BLOW job is concerned , IT SHOULD BE END OF CONGRESS. But the BJP’s silence is breathtaking, PERHAPS IT HAS TO CONTEND WITH THE 10YR OLD MAID RAPED AND BODY FOUND IN THE BOOT OF GADKARI’S CAR WITHIN THE PRECINCTS OF HIS HOME.
Planning to visit barcelona.
I will be nice , thus use the name Vijay Khanna , and remind him of his lecture ON DECADENCE OF THE WEST.
AshishC Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 6:09 am
I think my point was misunderstood. Let me make the point again, more clearly.
At the outset, I was an NRI once- I came back. When I was abroad, I did not make so much effort in staying in touch with “what’s happening back home” as many of you do. And, that includes you, Ravi, BinoyHegde, RajeevS, Pankaj, Mohan… in fact, even Balwinder- his interest in India is strong.
Mohan, I would never use clever play of words to poke fun at the NRI community. In fact, true to style- I learnt all these epithets from your post All in fun.
One thing stuck me when I lived abroad and socialized with fellow NRIs; most of them had very strong prescriptions:
1. Nuke Pakistan
2. Military is probably the only solution for the “mess that is India”
and so on…
I can tell you that I have never met someone like Ravi; ever abroad. Which is why, even though you would not know it from the ways I go after him on this blog, I love him. He, to me, is everything my beer drinking comrades in Lan Kwai Fong or Clark Quay were not- way more evolved, erudite and beyond 30 second soundbites of 9 pm news TV. That is not to say I agree with him; I mostly don’t.
It takes a lot to be at peace with your identity as an Indian in UK- or USA or Singapore or HongKong for that matter. I also submit, India is changing at a pace that is difficult to imagine for folks living abroad.
I am on a sabbatical from the blog- came back today, by chance and saw your post. Cheers and bye for now..
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 6:35 am
Nice to see you back after a long time.
Believe me you were not in my mind when I wrote those terms
for a NRI. I used those because I have heard those many times.
I don’t know about other NRI’s on this blog but my visits to India
are quite frequent and I agree with you that India is changing at a
very fast pace. Not only economically but living style and thinking
is also changing at a very rapid speed. Please don’t take your
sabbatical for very long and come back to this blog soon.
I am still waiting for your views on land reforms of Bengal.
As for Ravi is concerned, though I have never agreed with his views
and most probably will never agree but would always love to read
his posts as I always enjoy reading different views . I have always
been impressed by his command on English language, I wish I
could write in his style.
Pankaj & Mohan
I appreciate your concerns and have made an appeal for all the missing members to return. However, you both are in a minority here.
Agree, the silence can be killing for some. Ths blog has not been completely silent, as the others have made a lot of noise regaring the Abhishek Singhvi.
Pankaj, you are wrong that most of us,if not all, have been intimidated into scooting from the blog. I can speak for myself that I have been more than a match to anything that has been thrown at me and whenever I felt like it I have returned enough knock-out punches. Too frequent punches takes away the effectiveness and the surprise element.
AFAICR, Ravi (a ‘fake’ and ‘jehadi’ to boot) & Engrich (‘ISI trained jehadi’) have been away from the blog for quite sometime, before the CD controversy was reported. I will not speculate as to why Sanjay (a ‘congressi troll’ ) has been absent, must be busy or gone on a holiday or whatever, I do not know. With these people away for whatever reasons, I (another ‘congressi troll’ with the tag of ‘family naukar’ as an additional qualification) decided to go into a silent mode and watch the proceedings from the side for two reasons. 1) To check the state of the blog and 2) more important whether I could stay away from the blog. (Vijay & Co. need not believe me and I do not expect them to do so – they can keep attributing any motives they can imagine, who cares).
What was the result? The absence has been attributed to the fact the ‘congressi trolls’ have been embarrassed and shamed into silence and there has been total unanimity among Vijay, Gopi and the other usual suspects on this count. Worse, they even imagined as to what the missing members were upto with the whole group having a good laugh. CTs, anyone? BTW, no such questions have been raised about Ashish, Vinoo, Shoeb and others. How can they? After all, they belong to the group and must have real noble and genuine reasons for staying away. It does not bother me, just pointing out the duplicity of the people.
In the last 80 odd posts, about 40% of the posts have been on Abhishek Singhvi & the CD. Does it speak volumes about the lack of intelligence quotient of the ‘group’ to debate different topics and subjects? To me, it sure does. The reason is not far to seek – extreme juvenility and intelligence deficit. Was I unable to comment upon it? No, for me it was a non-issue, just as the BJP MLA’s caught with porn in their hands (those with short memories and/or selective amnesia, can go back several blogs and look).
If the absentee members do not return or do so irregularly, then what? One side can claim total conquest of one more citadel (Vinod Sharma’s Blog, no less) with the ‘enemies’ being annihilated. The group then surely must rejoice. Peace reigns, no dissent, no disagreemnts, no alternative narratives thus making debates infructuous, add more spice to the posts and the most important no need to abuse anyone anymore. No more Modi, RSS and BJP bashing either. Talk only goody-goody about the BJP and Modi and talk only baddy-baddy about the ‘enemies’. All hunky-dory and having a good time. One more addtional ‘bonus’ – fewer number of posts making navigation easier. The most common phrase would be ‘I agree’ with lots of claps. What more can one ask?
Having stayed away for 4 days, did I miss it and have the uncontrollable urge to hit the keyboard. I didn’t. There have been many interesting news/articles in the newspapers and on the net for the past 72 hours or so including a few re: Modi bashing, which I could have posted links to. I resisted the urge.
To all ‘active’ members, enjoy your newly conquered kingdom for whatever it is worth.
Pankaj and Mohan – thanks for your kind words.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 4:14 am
Cmon Manohar. Look at your own postings about me. I kept quiet for at least 30 jibes and then gave a gentle reminder that the truth is ultimately bigger than ll of us.
I am consistent in my opposition to terror and opposition to compromising with terror supporters.
I am consistent in having a participative democracy and not a familycracy or a naukercy, where spin is created to justify generation after genretion of a family indirectly stating that 1.2 bllion Indians are dumb and need to be ruled by people with superior royal genes,
I a consistent in wanting to make Congress clean, democratic and a national jewel. The Party of Dadabhai naoroji, Sardar Patel, Nehru and Gandhi. I would have the same standards for the BJP.
I find Modi modi rape rape, now predictable, boring and the last weapon off obfuscators. If the topic id Dev anand… we hear modi modi. If the subject is mamta… it is modi modi… rape rape… A bit of a ho hum.
I know you want to single me out for our disappearence. But look at your own jibes against me. Alone, with Ravi and Mahesh, while siding alng with Sanjay..
You see I was a foot ball goalkeeper in school for two years. Apart from Painfull hits on the nose and the balls… being a goalkeeper teaches you to keep your post intact…
I claim no personal victory on our leaving. I only say that maybe you dont have the answers. Dr Singvhi’s sex CD is so symptomatic of the Congress. Keep shoting Modi Modi… but indulge in yaun uthpeedan. Is the issue not important?
a) Desecration of court premises.
b) Offer of judgeship on personal favours.
Even if there are 500 posts on it, I think we need to solve a problem and debate it out here. now you may say that blogging does not solve problems. Well in my view, ultimately we blog to find answers for ourselves, at least…
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 8:32 am
About this Singhvi story. If this was only a sex between two adults than it
was a non issue, a private affair between them, but if he is promising her a post of judge in return for sex than this becomes a serious national issue.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 9:59 am
Who knows what actually happened. The audio of the link provided was not clear to me, could not even follow one word/sentence. If someone can post the actual authentic transcript, then we can talk.
If he has got an injunction, there is no reason for the opposite sides not to appeal in a higher court of justice.
If you must know, I have not made any comment either on Sanjeev Bhatt’s insistence of his presence in the meeting called by the Modi in 2002. Nothing has been proved one way or the other.
If you have noticed I have hardly ever talked about things which are in the realm of speculation. At most, one can only wonder.
Why do you all insist that I pass a comment on a topic? Are you all looking for some stamp of approval from me? Wasn’t enough (40% of the posts) was said? If I have chosen not to comment, people have already drawn conclusions about me and are gloating about it. They can be my guests. BTW, the abuse and labeling continues.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Nothing happened. We shouldn’t ask you to defend him.
I hope the media also uses it as a benchmark to report similar stories – injunction or otherwise.
Waiting for your links to other happenings around the globe.
With Sanjay gone, you must have noticed that posts are not getting deleted anymore.
As far as Manohar is concerned, he is congress sympathizer but not in the league of Sanjay. I have always enjoyed reading his views and he has been honest enough to accept mistakes of congress unlike other two.
He need not band himself with people like Ravi or Sanjay.
Manohar need not be TONGUE-TIED on Singhvi.
Manohar & Ashish
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
You are welcome.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:55 pm
what are the thanks for? for doing the disappearing act?
Khafa Rah Kar Tum Bhi Na Rah Paoge
Jaan To Jaegi Hamari, Saans Tum Bhi Na Le Paoge
Sapno Se Dil Lagane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
Har Waqt Mushkurane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
Yeh Soch Kar Ke Koyi Manane Nahi Ayega
Abh Humain Rooth Jaane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
Now to change the mood.
An old man was heard telling his friend
Pehele jab woh mere baal sahlati thi to mera ‘hathyar’ khada ho jaata tha lekin
ab woh jab mera ‘hathyar’ sahlati hai to mere baal khade ho jaate hain.
I think you sensed along with me and many others that Mamata was a hysterical disaster waiting to happen.
I still feel that she represents a window fo opportunity to change the Pashchim Banga mindset from Marx to markets, before her government collapses without completing the term.
I am sure you can set up a marketing/development centre for your software there, and push your other bong friends in Delhi to do the same. Even if you get 5 people onto the road of enterprise, it is five people less on the road to disaster.
Few days back we are discussing about RTE bill . Government had claimed that
every school has to admit 25% from the poor section of the society.
Please go through this article to understand whether government is really serious
in helping poor children to get educated.
NDTV has a great story on Gujarat becoming th Auto city of Asia.
Sad that Mamta dorve Nano to Gujarat, where Puegot, Ford and other cmapnies have now followed. Ultimately we need to create industrial potential so taht India matches CHina
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Mamta drove NANO to Gujarat and Obama drove Modi to China.
Ultimately blogs are more fress spiritied than ordinary conversations and reporting. We need to live with that….
NDTV also has a report that APJ Abdul Kalam may just make it again as the President. That would be great news as he represents the true face of Muslim India, a role model, a gentleman, a true nationalist. In one sense it would bring closure to the brutalisation of the Muslim mind in the UP elections by parties which wanted them to be shepherded along a path of isolation.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 10:03 am
Welcome back Pervez. So where did you disappear? I hope you stood in the elections and won… !
yes you are right, that APJ represents the best of India.
Sadly, scientist ABDUS Salam, a nobel prize winner represnted the best of Pakistan, yet was dishonoured in Pakistan for being a ahemdaiyaa.
We have had a faceless Pratibha who spent 206 crores in foreign travel and is still travelling till the end of tenure. She is now grabbing land meant for housing 800 jawans in Pune, to get her own palace built.
Now we again need a president who inspires India and not put it to despair.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
The right place for her to stay for the next 5years would be Tihar jail!
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 am
dr Kalam will be great! Children idolized him as a hero/role model. He represents what India is all about.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Maualyam was a big supporter of dr Kalam last time. Maulayam has agreed with the notion that the President should be a non-political person.
Kalam will be the president if he and Trinamol support.
Vijay Kumar Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
I think only kalam can tweak Mamta’s ears and tell her brutal truths
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:47 pm
as a sambhar-eating veggie South Indian, I am already feeling as if I am at the gates of Rashtrapati Bhawan!
I understand your dilemma. There were few preemptive strikes. My commiserations.
Thanks for letting me know that you wish me to stay on. I really appreciate it. We will see about that, it is early days.
We discussed nationhood, the glue that binds etc etc , and decided to look into three democracies – US, Israel, and India. We briefly covered US and Israel; and left India for another day (..we are all blogging late into the night; I am getting old for this!)
I will take a profound lie uttered by a British civil servant in mid 19th century and go backward and forward from then.
John Stratchey, an eminent British civil servant, who was an acting viceroy, who served for Lord Lansdowne, Lord Mayo, Lord Lytton; in his book “India: Its Administration and Progress” (1888) stated: “This is the first and most essential thing to remember about India – that there is not and never was an India……” This was the mantra taught to the incoming officers!
This self serving colonial narrartive suited to the British policy of divide and rule, it inanely survives, an often repeated urban myth (or by our secularists) even now is that India is a nation of British creation….
More to follow….
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Thx Gopi. It was an immensely satisfying discussion.
Gopi, one of the first forms of attack of the British imperialism was to demoralise the opposition. They probably wanted to equip their soldiers and civil services with the feeling that you dont have any and won’t feel any opposition when you rule India.
Of course the statement that there was no India is contradictory as the British themselves created an East India COmpany to come here!
More tellingly, geographical boundries probably did define a state South of the Himalayas. The warring kings fighting to rule over this entity too defined an India. The epics of Mahabharat and Ramayan too were set in this land.
In the end the rivers, the language and finally Patel’s shepherding act… did define some nationhood.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 2:37 pm
yes.. valid points..
A cartographic vision on a map doesnt make a nation.. what is in the hearts and minds …
Vijay Kumar Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
I have maps made by the British in 1812. They have dimensional problems and give distances wel fo from todays estimation. I doubt whether Indians had maps in 1700’s
Now that he has quit, let the issue rest.
I’d miss him though as I am missing sanjaydhawan here.
I was having trouble posting with “Disqus”. Hence posted with my twitter ID. Others facing similar issue may log out of “Disqus” and log-in with choice of IDs available.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Well, India has finally got into the cadre of other “advanced” countries..
That a driver has the courage to intimidate the most powerful lawyer in the country..
Who is he kidding???
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
in other words, Modi has shown that if he puts his head (and cash) to anything, he can make anordinary Bihari driver become the Giant killer.
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:53 pm
whenever the issue of sleaze in high places comes up, Abhishek Manu Zingvi will always be there to enliven the proceedings.
The issue will NOT REST.
~~~ MANU SIGNHVI SENT PACKING BY NETIZENS !! RESIGNS !! ~~~~
The spin did not work this time. Stories of morphing and dragging the BJP into the picture also did not work. Singhvi has had to say goodbye from all his posts.
Byeond sex between consenting adults, the basic issues still remain
a) the woman had wanted to become a judge. Her name was on the list. Manu Singhvi was in a position to influence
b) Was the act performed in court premises?
Anonymous Reply:April 23rd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
This should definitely be investigated
Another interesting observation on the “new communist China” –
Wen Jiaabo, PM of China is in Europe on trade promotion and to discuss European bailout.
Kerry Brown, head of the Asia Program at the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, says about this visit – “China’s leaders don’t understand the logic of putting hard-earned Chinese money into supporting the SOCIAL WELFARE (caps mine) system of Europe”
Mao’s China turning its back on social welfare! We are living in a wonderful time.
Good Comedy on Times Now.
All of us know there are two real issues.
a) Quid pro quo. Offering judgeship for BJ
b) Whether court presmises were used for fornification. Arre baba court is the temple and masjid of the people. If urges take over, how can you spol the temple ot masjid. Is it not right that you book a hotel and get over it?
Vinod Sharma was enjoying himself and insisted that he was nuetral as he was not part of the CD.
Where is Sanjay? Will he emerge after the Congress shame is over?
Disqus is dead… totally gone under siBBal mode of censorship as it first directws the post to a moderater.
Better to use facebook right now…
From Times now
Vinod mehta, Arati jerath and SIddharth nath Singh are saying exactly what I was saying. Public office cannot and be sold for sexual favours.
Morphing wali kahaani bahut funny ban gayi hai !! If it is morphed all of us should fight for his protection from blackmail. how can we let a driver with a morphed CD blackmail a Parliamentary representative?
Come let us protect the poor guy form blackmail and let us probe the morphing.
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This idiot columnist is a Congress-bought agent serving her Italian master. She has no place in India. Please leave our country!
sanatani Reply:January 5th, 2013 at 1:56 am
Instead of personal abuse you have to offer some refutation based on evidence and logic.
Javed Reply:January 6th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
yes no logic in the article, so all the burden is on commentators to compensate for that right?
anongoodman Reply:January 5th, 2013 at 5:49 am
Hey idiot. I strongly believe you are a rapist yourself and must surely be involved in some communal riot where you must have raped innocent women and girls. Please go to the nearest police station and sk them to lock you up for life for the good of Indian society.
The same idiot columnist went on to prominently predict Modi’s defeat.It is an irrefutable fact that Muslim percentage in india has grown from 6% in 1950 to 20% today.Within another generation,the results will be palpable & change india into an islamic wasteland
scrwbl Reply:January 5th, 2013 at 6:32 am
yeah.. and i hope they grow up soon to jump your mom and sisters !
India vs. China…. hahahaha!
You Secular and Paid Media have no other work than criticizing anything which is our history as Hindu religion and fanatic. Please read real History and understand it has no connection with any religion. Even Hinduism as a religion was created by Britishers. But these people will never understand or listen !
“Contrary to all anthropological data in the country he thought all
Muslims had four wives when the fact was that it was more Hindu and Jain
businessmen, rather than the comparatively poor Muslims, who had the
means to afford second and third establishments had married more than
Miss Andha, do check your facts before writing such a thrash. I think the research is done in your mind……We have mu$lim woman working in our household and she is a third wife of his so called poor husband. According to them “an extra wife means extra income and chance to produce more offspring to have extra income in future.”
And to be frank….I know so many Jains but have never encountered any having even a two marriages.
Rakesh Reply:January 5th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Sorry for typo, instead of two marriage, it should be “two wives”.
I am very surprised by the crude, vulgar and indecent language used in some of the comments. What is more, sentences are ungrammatical and words badly spelt. Goddess Saraswati and Lord Ganesha dwell on the words we speak and communicate. Let us not offend them.with foul language. Besides, there is a proverb in Sanskrit: “Vade vade jayathe tatva bodha”(It is only through reasoned argument that truth is understood) Let sanity prevail.
Khaki Chaddi Sindbad. All raapists are Khaki chaddees
Javed Reply:January 6th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
stuff some fresh kerala banana wafers up your a88
Be it Bharat or India, rape is a rape and it is an inhuman crime..a shame on a country whose citizens refer it to as Mother, and where we worship the female goddess’ stone statue, but cannot give show the basic courtesy to the females..everyday i am ashamed to be a Bharatiya and Indian, because of this among many more things..pray to any God, (s)he won’t forgive this,if (s)he there.
Didnt he clarify what his definition of India & Bharat miss Dimwit?
He clarified that India is a metaphor for the sub-standard society we have become by blindly aping the west. And Bharat is the metaphor for the rich progressive civilization we once were – where women were accorded the dues respect & treated equally. A creative & crisp call to society, one that only good orators can make.
In fact in all the daily hoarse crying by the dented & painted wannabe loudmouthed fashionable feminists, protesting & taking a good cause down the drain, there are a few sensible opinions. But even those are being mocked, by a manipulative media which wants to obscenely cash in on the horrific gangrape survivor’s tragedy. (Just like you your accomplice Ms burkha dutt reduced an opportunity for good honest discussion on the central issues of ineffective law & order to a utter trivia by disproportionately carping on misogyny, marital rape, eve teasing etc and not discussing plain old better policing. “marital rape”, “marital rape” as a high priority?? seriously!!??)
All of you are so shamelessly hitch-hiking on a serious incident, to either propagate your fetishy feminism or marketing sensationalist controversial talking points that sell – distracting the public opinion from the real issues of governance failures. Whose interests are you protecting?
Javed Reply:January 6th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
and yes having gone through RSS blogs despite of being a muslim – i can say they are very progressive. Many of the RSS affiliates are highly educated folks – nuclear scientists, top chartered accountants et all
This Bhagwat guy rarely speaks, and when he speaks he does drive home a concise point – no hanky panky. Yes some of it can be debated – one must not blindly accept anything said.
But it is unlike your parent political “grand old” party’s GS who farts and farts and farts nonsense like he has a perpetual diarrhoea ( even dumbest should know exactly whom I am pointing to)
Javed Reply:January 6th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
and when i say progressive i mean “progressive” like US “progressive”. Compared to stuff RSS – my religions fatwa masters are stone age
If one sets aside the general abuse in quite few comments here four points have been made against the blog.
All the four merit a response.
1) “Bharat is the metaphor for the rich progressive civilization we once
were – where women were accorded due respect & treated equally.”
Whether Bharat is a metaphor or an historic entity, it is a fact that women were not equally treated. Let us start with two of our classics, Ramayana and Mahabharata.
First, the Ramayana.
Why did Sita have to undergo agni pariksha after suffering in the hands of Ravana? (read Yuddha Kand)
And again why did she have to be sent to forest in the middle of the night without a trial just because a bad individual spoke ill of her? ( read Uttara Kand)
Then the Mahabharata.
If women were treated as equals, how did Yudhishtir manage to sell Draupadi, his wife?Why did no one (except Vidur) protest when she was dishonoured in an open royal court? In the end it was the victims, Sita and Draupadi who protested. When Sita condemned Rama for his suspicions he had the grace to apologise. When Draupadi argued for her rights, Bhishma, Drona and Kripa at least were embarrassed with shame. (read the Dyuta Parva.)
Remember, Sita and Draupadi are the role models for women who protest today.
And this in spite of one Manu Smriti stating, women do not deserve freedom.“Na Stree swatantryamarhati”.
The true scriptural authority for women’s rights and functions comes from apourusheya shrutis, not man-made smritis. RSS does not even understand the difference. Its ignorance, confusion, misunderstanding and
misinterpretation of our own shastras is appalling.
And let us not forget, if women were accorded respect and equality throughout history there would not have been dowry, child marriage and
tonsuring of widows.They were treated badly because the Shriti tradition was discarded in favour of Smriti.So there were no more Gargis and Maitreyis that learned and argued Vedanta in history.
This brings us to the so-called divide between Bharat and India. It is an artificial division. We belong to one land and let us not have this partition of minds. Our shastras have a universal ideal that embraces both the East and the West:Vasudhaiva kutumbakam(The whole earth is one family.)
The first shloka of Ishopanishad, “Ishavasyamidam sarvam…” also starts with the same premise. The narrow-minded bigotry of the RSS is an abuse of the Upanishads and true shastras.
(In fact the word Hindu itself does not find a mention in holy books of sanatana dharma. That is another story.)
What about present reality? In rural India women work shoulder to shoulder with men in farms. Should they only be cooking at home and never stepping outside according to RSS prescription?
On the other hand in the land of Ganga and Yamuna, village khaps have encouraged lynching and caste killing.Time and again they have condoned rape and child marriage. All this is against religion and shastras. Does the RSS give its homily to these Khaps? Atrocities against women are all over the country.
There is a subhashit in Sanskrit, “Yatra Naryastu Pujyante, Ramante Tatra Devata”
Gods appear themselves where women are honoured.
There is no suggestion in this subhashit hat women don’t deserve that honour just because they belong to “India” and not the RSS mindscape of “Bharat”
2)”Women who made a vocal protest against the recent rape are dented & painted wannabe, loud-mouthed,fashionable feminists.”
The women who protested against rape all over India were common people. They happened to be daughters, sisters, wives and mothers. They have seen and known ill-treatment. They don;t want it to happen. So they protested and still protest. In Delhi they met with lathi charge, tear gas, water canons by the police. Some were taken to police station, abused and beaten up.
Should we call them names?
In the last 60 years women’s groups have fought for equal rights irrespective of caste and community. Mathura case and Shahbano case are just two among many. That resulted in legal reform. All this is well-documented.For all their service and sacrifice should they be called dented and painted feminists by those who do not know the record of their work.
3)”RSS is a progressive organisation and it knows what is right for women.” Really?
RSS has never accepted equal rights for women. Its spokesmen have also defended leaders like Modi when he was criticized for encouraging the Gujarat riots that saw rape and murder of several many girls and women.
4)”The author of the blog is a Congress supporter.”
If one reads other blogs by this columnist, one finds that she has criticized other political parties as well, especially, the Congress. So how does she become a spokesperson for Congress?
The logic of this argument is, “If you are not with us, you are with them.” But a journalist can always take an independent stand. She does. Some times I strongly disagree with her opinion. But I don’t attribute motives questioning her integrity. Where is any one’s proof?
I do have some last words for all who drop an opinion at a penny and abuse all & sundry.
A)Majority communalism and Minority communalism feed on another.
Neither has respect for human rights, democracy and justice. Riots and bomb blasts are two sides of the same coin. In both there is the same disrespect for life and human dignity. Advani, Mohan Bhagwat on the one hand, Maulana Bukhari and Syedna on the other look different. But their mindset is the same. It is fanatical and dictatorial. The BJP and Muslim League are blatantly communal.
Congresswallahs are communal in disguise with their vote bank politics. See how they shut their eyes whenever any self-apponted ulema issues fatwa against any one who speaks for his own or her own rights.
Hypocrisy comes in all shades.
Both the Congress and BJP are evil as are most political
B)For those interested: Do take the trouble of visiting the local library and read books on Indian history, religious tradition and philosophical schools. These are serious disciplines. Scholars have spent a life time studying them. Read with humility & respect. Then you will understand how deep and complex is our culture and civilization. Upanishads are a good starting point. So are the bhakti tradition and sufi tradition.
Let Sant Meera, Narasi Mehta, Surdas and Kabir guide our
Let Bhagatsingh, Chandrashekhar Azad and Ashfaqullah Khan be
Not Congresswallahs, Communistwallahs, RSSwallahs and
Let me conclude with a subhashit from our classics.
“Janani janmabhoomishcha swargadapi gareeyasai.”
Let us honour all women as mothers and let us honour the whole of our land as motherland. Then Heavens are not beyond our reach.
This has been a long message.
Dear reader, thank you for your patience.
arya dharma upasak Reply:January 7th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Sorry, the final quote should read “Janani janmabhoomishcha swargadapi gareeyasi” The last word was inadvertently misspelt with an extra “a”.
Javed Reply:January 8th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
maaf karo chachajaan bacchon ki jaan logey kyaa, itne bade comments ka bojh daalke
Lets treat some non-sequiturs here
1. It is RSS view-point & clarification not our justification. The editor unjustly omitted the context & explanation. WHY?
okay still let us consider:
you are pointing to only 2 exception instances amongst hundreds of positive examples. In any case both the points are debatable as Ramayana & Mahabharata are epics for subjective interpretation not a guide which prescribe. Show similar example from Bhagvad Gita which is prescriptive
Also you proclaim yourself to be a hinduism expert. There are many others – we dont know who is right, we dont care. WE USE COMMON SENSE
2. The dented painted criticism is not aimed at *ALL* protesters. It is aimed at some people who turned up in media shows and mouthed drivel. They pushed back the real issue of this ghastly incident & went on and on about frivolous things like misogyny etc doing complete injustice to the bigger more fundamental issues. WHY? because these gossipy controversial topics are easy to **** opinions on
Cant help if you are getting touchy about plain facts
3. Yes bring Modi in everything. Else how can you show off your “secular credentials”. Modi doesnt talk. He delivers value to the people. Take it from a Gujarati muslim – Modi has ushered in peace in a riot prone gujarat when Congress & Keshubhai used to allow riots every year – EVERY YEAR (I live in Gujarat)
When I compare RSS philosophy to our “mullah” philosophy – RSS is much better. If RSS riles you – then I dont what you will say about the **** our mullahs talk. RSS is pro-hindu because thats how it was evolved. If I ignore the pro-hindus bits what RSS says is practical
4. Sujata Anandam not pro-congress, anti-BJP. you must be joking. Anyways from all your fundas you seem to be a deluded man. But you seem to be a good man, who can sometimes be over generous. Thats exactly what you are doing – you think the blogger is fair – she criticises all. GO AND READ CAREFULLY – token criticism for one party & untrue criticism for other. No one takes her seriously – she is just a propaganda machine
*agree with you on Bhagat Singh. i really idolize him*
I dont hope to convert you – you are too heavy . But it was interesting reading your post
arya dharma upasak Reply:January 9th, 2013 at 5:57 am
I do not wish to convert you to my point of view. All that I
would ask you is to keep an open mind on the question.
1. “It is RSS view-point & clarification not our justification. The editor unjustly omitted the context & explanation. WHY?”
There are some rules of argument in our sanatana dharma
tradition. When we want to refute the opponent’s point of view, first we have to state it correctly. This called poorva paksha (the argument stated before).Then we offer our own argument. That is called uttarapaksha (the argument that comes thereafter).
The RSS view is that rapes take place in cities (India)because they follow Western values and life style and they do not take place in villages and small towns( Bharat) because they have traditional values.In the present case the author of the blog did not misinterpret the context and explanation by the RSS leadership.
Recently Amartya Sen made the same point, stating that more
rapes take place in villages.
I have a different issue with the author. She has gone off in a tangent dwelling on demography (population growth) and
bringing in Romania.That is not relevant to the present case.
Also, the name of late Mr.Sudarshan is misspelt as Sudershan.
2.”you are pointing to only 2 exception instances amongst hundreds of positive examples. In any case both the points are debatable as Ramayana & Mahabharata are epics for subjective interpretation not a guide which prescribe. Show similar example
from Bhagvad Gita which is prescriptive. Also you proclaim yourself to be a hinduism expert. There are many others – we dont know who is right, we dont care. WE USE COMMON SENSE.”
If one says,” I don’t know who is right and I don’t want to
know”. That is OK.There is no need for either side saying anything. But from there if one insists “ I don’t want to know. But I am still right,” is that being reasonable?
I have never proclaimed to be a Hinduism expert. I do not
even use that word, “Hinduism.”It is too vague and general. It means different things to different people.
You have mentioned the Bhagavad Gita. It is among the
prasthana trayee (three important texts), others being Brahma Sutras and Upanishads. But it is badly misinterpreted, especially, two lines:
a)Karmanyevadhikarasathe maphaleshu kadachana (one should do one’s duty without expectation)
b)Chathurvarnam maya sryatshyam guna karma vibhagasha
(I created four divisions among human beings according to
character and action.)
But what is one’s duty and what are the four divisions meant
by Lord Krishna?
Left to RSS, that is defined by Manu Smriti that imposes a
harsh and unequal caste system and also denies women their rights.
However, the Bhagavad Gita does not prescribe a separate
code of conduct for men vis-a-vis women. So we cannot use it as an example.
I can give several other instances from our tradition like
Renuka and Ahalya who for no fault of theirs were punished by their husbands.
The greatest example, however, is that of women who were abducted by Narakasura who kept him in his dungeons. When Lord Krishna killed Narakasura, rescued the women and brought them back, none of the families wanted them as they were
“dishonoured”. These women were in the danger of being thrown on the streets. So what did Krishna do? He married all of them
and gave them an honorable position as his wives. Sadly, even he, the ruler and the Lord could not persuade the men folk in his kingdom to accept these unfortunate women? Even if he had, would they have treated these unfortunates with love and kindness?
Ramayana and Mahabharata are classics, They are part of our
tradition. They are not directly didactic and prescriptive. But it is possible to make an objective study and interpret them without bias and prejudice.Sita and Draupadi are role models of the great Indian tradition. The RSS ideology is opposed to whatever they stood for.
When it comes to Indian history, women suffered enormously in
wars. They were raped, sold, kept as concubines or forced to become prostitutes throughout centuries.This was done by the victors of wars. Now if you leave it to RSS, it would only mean the “Muslim invaders” raping Hindu women. But what nabout the Marathas for example? These warlords went on a killing spree with murder, loot, pillage and rape of women.
All this is documented by the great historian Yadunath Sarkar.
No, he is not a Congresswallah or a Communist type for the RSS types to pounce on him. He is an old-fashioned, respected historian.
Much before, King Ashoka had done the same. Hundreds and
thousands of women and children of Kalinga were kidnapped and sold in the slave markets of Pataliputra. That “repentance” of Askoka is a false myth started by Nehru and used to brain wash generations of students by successive governments.
The Congress and the RSS both have their own way of whitewashing unpleasant truths of history to serve political ends.
2.”The dented painted criticism is not aimed at *ALL* protesters. It is aimed at some people who turned up in media shows and mouthed drivel. They pushed back the real issue of this ghastly incident & went on and on about frivolous things like misogyny
etc doing complete injustice to the bigger more fundamental issues. WHY? because these gossipy controversial topics are easy to **** opinions on.Cant help if you are getting touchy about plain facts.”
Now I also share your distaste for fashionable glamorous
personalities who have hijacked many a debate on public issues. The media calls them because they are “presentable” and articulate in English. Often media does not call scholars, experts, grassroots activists to participate in panel discussion. Some times it asks insensitive questions to victims without knowing what it does. All this is wrong.
3 “Yes bring Modi in everything. Else how can you show off your “secular credentials”. Modi doesnt talk. He delivers value to the people. Take it from a Gujarati muslim – Modi has ushered in peace in a riot prone gujarat when Congress & Keshubhai used to allow riots every year – EVERY YEAR (I live in Gujarat)”
There are two separate issues about Modi:
a)His role in 2002 riots
b)His performance in administering Gujarat
Here point b)does not concern us because it does not relate
to the present question.
But it remains a fact that girls and women brutally raped
and killed in riots.It is also a fact that the culprits came from the right winggroups, Bajrang Dal and also the ruling party, BJP.The entire judicial process has been undermined and subverted with pressure by the party, police and the government.
People are demanding capital punishment in the Delhi case. That should also apply to these cases.
But Modi is not alone. Bal Thackeray did it for 40 years
instigating and masterminding riots.
The Congress leaders are no worse. The 1984 riots were
instigated by late Rajiv Gandhi himself and led by men like Kamalnath and Tytler who still occupy the front ranks of Congress.
In all these riots women and children have always been
victims of rape and murder.The problem with our political groups is that they are selective in their criticism.
“If Muslim women are raped, it’s OK. They are not our women.”
“If Sikh women are raped, it’s OK. They are not our women.”
“If women from “India” are raped, it is Ok. They are not our women. In fact they deserve it. In “Bharat” (as defined by the RSS) every woman is at home in the evening and she does not go out in the night. Not even with her fiancé.”
Yes, there have been no riots in Gujarat after 2002 and no riots in Mumbai either after 1992-93.
In Gujarat there has been a glimmer of justice after the recent judgment in Naroda Patiya case.
Sadly, in Mumbai there has been none. While some blast accused
have been prosecuted, a number of innocents have been tortured and incarcerated without trial. The women who were raped in 192-93 riots in Mumbai got no justice.
And all political groups, Congress, RSS, and RPI have
maintained a discreet silence. For their own members either participated or colluded in the riots.
4)”When I compare RSS philosophy to our “mullah” philosophy – RSS is much better. If RSS riles you – then I dont what you will say about the **** our mullahs talk. RSS is pro-hindu because thats how it was evolved. If I ignore the pro-hindus bits what RSS says is practical.”
Philosophy is the foundation of all human thought and it asks fundamental questions about existence and reality. It is a quest for truth.
The RSS ideology does not merit that term and it cannot
speak for the members of the majority community. It is not practical either because it has not accepted ordinary economic facts. For example, women in both cities and villages have to work. There are aging parents, unemployed husbands and even
sick children. Even without these adverse conditions they need to pay housing loans, fees for children to maintain families. Many accept night duty not because they love it. It is an economic necessity. The RSS prescription for women, “Stay at home” does not recognize it at all.
We do not live in a Taliban state. Families, women, children
have a right to go to film shows. When they return home there should be safety for them.
“This happens in India, not in Bharat” is neither a
factual statement nor a responsible one.
The majority community genuinely deserves reform. In
the past it was brought about by visionaries like Dayand Saraswati, Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Agarkar and Ranade. What is the RSS record of reform? Nothing,misinterpreting as it does our history, our religion and our culture.
This brings me to Islam. I have never suggested that you and
others should not speak about our religion just because you happen to come from another community. I do not claim to know Islam from within. But I am a student of comparative religion. I spent quite some time studying the life of the Prophet and placing Islam in its historic and social context. From my experience I can say that it is desirable to go to the original texts and sources and understand them on one’s own before listening to mullas. An independent and objective scrutiny is a necessity.
5)”Sujata Anandam not pro-congress, anti-BJP. you must be joking. Anyways from all your fundas you seem to be a deluded man. But you seem to be a good man, who can sometimes be
over generous. Thats exactly what you are doing – you think the blogger is fair- she criticises all. GO AND READ CAREFULLY – token criticism for one party & untrue criticism for other. No one takes her seriously – she is just a propaganda machine”
In the column on the right hand side you would find hyper-links to topics in her writing. If you click the ones relating to Congress, Sonia, Manmohan Singh etc. you won’t find it flattering. She is
particularly scathing about the Maharashtra government because she lives in Mumbai and knows it better. I do not agree with some of her perceptions, though. But they do not relate to the present issue. So I am not mentioning them.
What is required from a reporter is precise and accurate
recording of facts. What is required from a blog writer is an honest and truthful recording of his or her daily experience. Yes, it is a very personal dialogue between the writer and the reader. Both sides should have mutual respect even if their ideas are diametrically opposite. That means listening and understanding
a point of view.
I have come to like you in spite of all our differences. You did make me laugh with those first words, “Maaf karo chachajaan bacchon ki jaan logey kyaa, itne bade comments ka bojh daalke”
If my old students had met you, they would have said. “ Bilkul maaf karna nahi. Your suffering is nothing compared to ours. He used to chew our heads for the whole year in the class.And if you want to shoot him, please take a token and stand in the Q. We have been waiting for that chance for hours.”
arya dharma upasak Reply:January 9th, 2013 at 8:32 am
Sorry, in spite of my precautions a few words have been
missed and the language does not look altogether correct in some places. In a public forum one should be careful about usage.
IN REALITY SHE HAS NO IDEA WHAT MR BHAGWAT IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN. SORRY, MAM I AM NOT CONVINCED THE WAY YOU HAVE INTERPRETATED HIS STATEMENT AS IT IS NOT ABOUT URBAN AND RURAL INDIA, HE HAS PUT STRESS ON INDIAN CULTURE WHICH WE HAVE NEGLECTED IN THE BLIND RACE OF WESTERN VERSION.
What happened in south Delhi has shamed and saddened all of us. It would be idle to believe, however, that women are not violated in rural areas where the feudal power structure is so much more deeply embedded.
I sort of agree with Mr.Mohan Bhagwat. Since I have spent a lot of time travelling in rural areas, I feel women are more respected in rural areas. Though they may mistreat women and look them down in their own household. Where as in cities eve teasing and groping women has become a common thing.
Thankyou immensely. So useful for a person who has just shifted to Delhi.
If Sujata sincerely feels that more polygamy is followed by Hindus than Muslims, she needs help from a psychiatric. However, I know that such paid agents who call them media person are fooling people.
No one has ever thought of condition of a Hindu girl who marries a Hindu boy under Hindu Marriage Act under the impression that she would not be victim of polygamy by her husband as She married a Hindu under Hindu Marriage Act or Special Marriage Act. But her Hindu husband subsequently convert to Islam for second marriage. Such secular people would never take up this matter because they are paid agent of a party or religion.
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