No tests for the dynasty, only straight elevation to the top job.
The congress party is already on self-destruct mode.
Digvinash Singh has created a “mayajaal” around the prince and they hope the magic may inadvertantly click. The basis for this false bravado is supposed Muslim vote bank.
If the media says the crowd at Rahul Baba’s meeting was 30-40,000, it surely means <15000.
It is my belief that Awasthi Baba's slogan" maa bimar" may, in truth, be more than a slogan. The bimari may be serious, maataaji may not be able to undertake the onerous task of pulling its UP unit up with its boot-straps.
Awasthi Baba may still get his rajyasabha seat ahead of Vinodji.
According to Rahul Gandhi , since there no no jobs available in UP people from their go to Maharashtra to beg.
If congress comes to power in UP then he will create an enivironment that will
allow them to beg in UP itself. No need of going to an other state for such
trivial matter.
Rahul’s speech at Phulpur was very disappointing. He sounded like Raj Thackrey and chided UP people by calling them beggars. This is the same state that has help dynasty rule India.
Rahul is no better than Raj Thackrey on regionalism, Modi on communalism and Mayawati on casteism. He is the worst that Congress can offer to India.
The kind of garbage that he spewed in Phulpur has confirmed everyone’s feeling that Digvijay is the guru of Rahul. Only Digvijay can produce such low level filth.
Rahul’s speech at Phulpur was very disappointing. He sounded like Raj Thackrey and chided UP people by calling them beggars. This is the same state that has help dynasty rule India.
Rahul is no better than Raj Thackrey on regionalism, Modi on communalism and Mayawati on casteism. He is the worst that Congress can offer to India.
The kind of garbage that he spewed in Phulpur has confirmed everyone’s feeling that Digvijay is the guru of Rahul. Only Digvijay can produce such low level filth.
Isn’t it easier to rule from behind the curtain without any responsibility?
I feel for Manmohan who has taken all the brickbats for dynasty. Poor chap. I am sure he will become a fogotten footnote in congress’s history just like PV narasimha rao.
Isn’t it easier to rule from behind the curtain without any responsibility?
I feel for Manmohan who has taken all the brickbats for dynasty. Poor chap. I am sure he will become a fogotten footnote in congress’s history just like PV narasimha rao.
I applaud you for the fitting reply you have given this Pakistani jihadi fundoo, who also holds the certificate of being a secular fundamentalist given by none other than Vinod Sharma.
“My mother an elected member of the Indian Parliament, one of the few people who could have been a PM, but refused to assume the most powerful position in the country………
BUT FOR THE FACT THAT PRSIDENT KALAM THREW THE RULES BOOK AT ME AND SAID FOREIGNERS CANNOT BECOME PM AS ITALY DOESN’T HAVE THE RECIPROCAL LAW.”
I really applaud you for bursting the bubble of the jihadi and his bed-mate congressie troll, who is spilling all his stinking pseudo secular vomit on this blog.
Jihadis must confine their worry to what happens to the back seat driving of the Pak army and what happens to your jihad in India once the BJP comes to power.
Rahul Gandhi has penned some of the most heart-wrenching, poignant and plain-speaking thoughts for the people of UP:
My heart bleeds for the garib, bhikari, bhikmanga and the badnaseeb of UP state..
Poverty is not new to India, because my great grandfather, Pandit Nehru, deliberately kept the country poor with his socialism.
Begging too is not new to us, because my great grand father began our begging in the early 1950’s.He went to the US and Europe every year with our ever expanding begging bowls, first for food and then food and money too.My grand mother, Indira Gandhi, too kept the poverty and begging going with her own brand of socialism.
But, what Mayawati has done for the UP people is beyond discription. She has created more beggars in UP than my great grand father and my grand mother together created in the whole of India.
These poor beggars have also been driven out of UP for lack of begging opportunities.
They are now begging on the streets of Mumbai, Delhi and even distant Bangalore.
This is shameful for four generations of congress leaders headed by the Nehru parivar.
Therefore, I have prepared, with valuable inputs from Digvinash Singh, a 10 point
manifesto for the poor and destitutes of UP.
MY MANIFESTO FOR THE BEGGING POOR OF UP
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1.All UP beggars will now onwards don’t have to leave the state for begging.
2.All opportunities will be created for their hassle-free begging within UP itself.
3.Specially designed UID cards will be issued exclusively for the beggars of UP.
4. With these cards, now they can beg at all bus stops, traffic signals, railway stations and also airports.
5. Police will neither stop these card holding beggars nor will they demand bribes from them.
6. Road medians and foot paths will be modified to house these card holding beggars, so that they can live on them hassle-free.
7.A minimum support rate of Rs.5 will be fixed for traffic signals and bus stops and Rs.50 for airports.
Note: Beggars have the right to throw the money back at the donors, if the amount is less than the fixed rate.
8. Removing beggars from footpaths and road medians will be a crime punishable by imprisonment.
9.Children below the age of 15 will be permitted to beg outside their schools before and after school hours.
10.Membership of congress party will be free for all beggars.
Friends I have just been given my new identity . I am a Bhikari from UP in fact from quite close to where I was declared one. I became a bhikari in 1980 when I left Allahabad to work at New Delhi.Then this Bhikari was posted to Kolkotta and I begged there for 5 years . Now I am back and continue to be bhikari of sorts , i.e I live in UP but work in Delhi .
All those who go out of their state to work in other states are all bhikaris. Yes this is what the Congress party and its future PM of India has told the country . That is to say all those who have come to Noida and Greater Noida from other states are Bhikaris in UP.
Union Ministers who take Oath of Office to safeguard the Constitution of India are permitted to kick and assault others , this another law which was laid down yesterday by the Congress Party.
I feel ‘extremely sorry’ (others perhaps will be extremely discomforted) for the ‘greatest Chief Minister and Administrator’ ever to set foot on this planet..
The only “silver lining’ is that he is in august company of
1) Omar Osama bin Laden
2) Tariq Ramadan
3) Yusuf al-Qaradawi
among others down the years. The other people not welcome in the USA would be the terrorists based in Pakistan and elsewhere. “Wonderful’.
USA denies visa to Modi who is allegedly behind the riots in Gujarat which
killed about 1000 people.
Congress party allows Anderson to flee India whose company was involved
in death of more than 10000, more than 5 lakhs injuries of which more than
40000 with permant disability .
I am only having great fun in bashing up our own politicians, a pastime which you also indulge in. I do not mind when you bash up politicians, do you have a problem if I bash them too?
Whether USA is right or wrong or whether the Government of India (read Congress Party if you like, I have no problem) was right or not is not the question, we can discuss these separately, if you like. Here it is just bashing – plain and simple.
“” No need to obfuscate the thread by raising other issues, which have no relation to the topic”"
Ulta chor kotwaal ko daante.
You brought in Modi when Rahul Gandhi was being discussed as you normally do . In earlier blog also I had told
you the same thing.
Anonymous Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Mohan,
congressie trolls on this blog have wide lee-way, and the “chor” only orders others to speak on the topic while he can “debate” any issue of his choice. For proof, see his fifty posts from the last five blogs. Take print-outs and preserve them, because they are high quality debates!!!!!
Anonymous Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Do you think if Rajiv Gandhi was alive, he would get VISA to US?
Yes, of course..because he was white looking belonging to dynasty.
Anonymous Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
According to the congressie troll here, as against Modi, Rajiv Gandhi only failed to prevent the massacre of 5000 Sikhs in Delhi, whereas, the fact is that he actually ordered his hired goons to take revenge on the Sikhs for the murder of his mother by her Sikh body guard. what followed his specific order was a well executed POGROM against Sikhs.
Anonymous Reply: November 16th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Shenoy,
Manohar has a habit of speaking from both sides of mouth. He uses thousands of adjective to bash Modi but when it comes to condemning criminal Rajiv Gandhi, he makes a formal one liner and wants us to believe that he is neutral.
Anonymous Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
This question you should ask the USA government, not me.
Anonymous Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
It is very deep for Congressis to understand. They choose foreigners over own countrymen for petty political gains.
You can add his name, also of Sajjan Kumar and Jagdish Tytler.
It is still a gallery of rogues and Modi is in this list.
Anonymous Reply: November 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
But if we prepare a reverse list, it would be Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld..but do we have spine?
Anonymous Reply: November 16th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
If (a big one at that) and whenever the BJP comes ot power, you and your ilk can always request the Prime Minister (Advani, Modi or Gadkari or BSY, etc. who cares) to show ’spine’ and prepare such a list.
http://dealstop.co.uk Larry
I dont think Vinod Sharma’s estimate that Rahul Gandhi spoke in front of a crowd of 30,000-40,000 is true. He may try to delude people into thinking that he’s writing an blog critical of RG, but these subtle propaganda tidbits tend to have a different motive. The crowd would have been no more than 5000 people
For a few days, the fake tyagi had become real bhogi and from all indications, the bitching and cat-fights had given way to exploration of the real intent of the fake swami.
“If the speculation isn’t without basis, I’d be surprised by the timing of the move.”
Mr Vinod Sharma has raised a pertinent issue. Why now? There could be two reasons. One ,there could a conspiracy by some from within the Congress Party , to derail him even before he takes off and finally settle ths issue for good. Or the other being that 10 Janpath is no longer confident about 7 RCR and they want to speed up before things go out of hand..
But one undeniable fact is that Rahul Gandhi is simply not cut out for an important political assignment in the country.He is yet to show that he is no longer a juvenile.
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~~ WHY DIVIDING UP IS A MASTERSTROKE ~~~~~~~
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Since Mayawati got division of UP on the national agenda, she should be congratulated. In fact by a single stroke she will achieve what her five years of rule could not. Shake UP into joining the race of progress. People like Mulayam and Amar SIngh, who represent areas which are not Western UP will react adversly and as a matter of reaction start an agitation against this.
As a matter of record all small states in India have done better than the bigger states.
PEPSU divided into Punjab, Haryana and Himachal has beome a prosperous area; Gujarat and Maharashtra got partitioned and everyone is happier; Uttrakhand now prospers after it got detatched from UP.
Imprtantly Bihar could only vote in Nitish when Jharkhand separated. Otherwise the Lalu fromula fo Muslim Yadav combine would always be bigger than progress.
Similarly since politics in UP only revolves around caste, religion and similar issues, it does requiere a breakup. Smaller states focus on local issues of development and crime.
The bigger states have politicans who keep creating a votebank by scaring everyone to become a minority
1) It may open Pandora’s box. Other areas in bigger states would demand the same. Telangana is already in the news. Vidarbha, Marwar, Saurashtra, Southern Tamil Nadu ( I am only guessing) would be also want to separate.
The Parliament will have to take a firm view on this.
2) The other question is – Bigger states have a bigger political and economic bigger. How does that even out with the development?
Any views on this?
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On the lighter side – if UP gets divided into 4 states, where are the three more Mayawatis that would be needed in case BSP wins in all the 4 states?
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Rahul Gandhi = Raj Thackey Version 2.0 minus education (on regionalism)
Rahul Gandhi = Advani Version 2.0 minus brain (Communalism)
Rahul Gandhi = Mulayam Singh Version 2.0 minus guts (Goondagardi)
Rahul Gandhi is the equivalent of china made product, low on quality high on finish.
Anonymous Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Ravi ka baap angrez tha. Sawaal hai iski maa angrez ke paas gayi thi..ki angrez iski maa ke paas aaya that?
Ravi Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Mohan
I guess you got the meaning of The Second Coming, as well as;
My economic condition
My mothers morality (or lack of it)
My geneology, and ancestory.
Anonymous Reply: November 15th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Vijay,
I totally oppose this partition business. The time is to divide big states into zone with separate budgets based on backwardness and population. I even support deputy CMs for each zone.
Rahul is trying his luck at a time when the credibility of his party is at its lowest ebb.It seems he can not retrieve the situation.People want development and they will vote to power those who can perform according to their desires.The memory of the people is not so short that they can forget the failure of congress on all fronts.Development and not the individuals matter now. The recent example is that of Bihar.
I fail to understand how educated Congressis can tolerate this ****** Rahul Gandhi. There are some ardent congress supporters here who are afraid to say even a word against this ******. What can you expect from such people who have no backbone?
Pl. read this interview of Astish Taseer son of slain Salman Taseer and Journo Tavleen Singh. His views on Arundhati Roy darling of anti-national congresis are blunt and very refreshing.
You’ve said some pretty harsh things about a certain writer *** activists on the Left–no names!–who, we in the States, kind of like. She seems, in an environment of rapacious capitalism, to be a friend of the poor and marginalised. What possible objection could you have to her?
Aatish: None except that I don’t think she’s a friend of the poor at all. She would like to doom them to a permanent state of picturesque poverty. They are beautiful to her–the poor–beautiful, benign and faceless. And that is exactly how she wants them to stay. Let me say also that it is not the poor who animate her politics. Oh, no! The people who get her into the streets are the new middle classes. This class, still among the most fragile in India, people who have newly emerged from the most dire conditions, are despicable to her. She mocks their clothes; their trouble with English; she hates their ambitions; when India wins the cricket and she sees them celebrating, her skin crawls; she wants, more than anything, to do these people down. And it is her overwhelming hatred of them that allows her to be a friend of movements that are seemingly far apart. The jihadists, the Maoists, the Kashmir movement, the anti-development people…they’re all her friends. Anyone who can prove a credible threat to the future of India is a friend of that woman. I would go so far as to say she has a prurient fascination with the enemies of India. And where do they love her? In Pakistan, and in the faculty rooms of Europe and America. No surprise there.
Also, this business of pretending she’s a lone voice in the wilderness. What rubbish! At least have the good grace to admit that not one thing she says is provocative or new; it is perfectly banal. And we know how well the universities Europe and America reward this bogus cant!
“As for Sonia Gandhi, I did not mind her, when she was Rajiv Gandhi’s wife, but after his death, I watched with dismay as she started stamping her authority on the Congress, which made me say in a series of broadcasts on the Nehru Dynasty: “It’s sad that the Indian National Congress should be completely dependent on one family; the total surrender of a national party to one person is deplorable. You have to ask the question: what claims does Sonia Gandhi have to justify her candidature for prime-ministership? Running a country is far more complicated than running a company. Apprenticeship is required in any profession — more so in politics”. I heard that Sonia Gandhi was unhappy about this broadcast.
Then, after President APJ Abdul Kalam called her to the Raj Bhavan (read Rashtrapati Bhawan) and told her what some of us already knew, namely that for a long time, she had kept both her Italian and Indian passports, which disqualified her to become the Prime Minister of India, she nevertheless became the Supreme leader of India behind the scenes. It is then that I exclaimed: “the moribund and leaderless Congress party has latched onto Sonia Gandhi, who is Italian by birth and Roman Catholic by baptism”. She never forgave me for that. Yet, today I can say without the shadow of a doubt that when history will be written, the period over which she presided, both over the Congress and India, will be seen as an era of darkness, of immense corruption and of a
democracy verging towards autocracy, if not disguised dictatorship, in the hands of a single person, a non Indian and a Christian like me. Truth will also come out about her being the main recipient for kickbacks from Bofors to 2G, which she uses to buy votes, as the Wikileaks have just shown.”
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~~ WILL ARNAB, THE VOICE OF iNDIA BE SILENCED into submission?
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In a strange case the former Chief justice of Supreme court launched a case against Times Now, becasue his mug had been shown wrongly and he won… for damages amounting to 100 crores.
Now
a) I would hate to be in the position of the junior subeditor who put in the wrong clip
b) more seriously the Times Now channel will need the Congress help at the centre to get out of this one. And Digviansh Singh will ask for a price, Salute the Yuvraj and tone down all rhetoric.
I have a feeling, Arnab who lead the charge against corruption will have to change his tune to that of NDTV and CNN IBN….
Therefore, Arnab Goswami, don’t be surprised if you get a mid-night knock from Chidambaram’s Gestapo. In fact, be prepared for it.
Shakespeare might have said, “Thrice is he armed that has justice on his side”. But in the Sonia Raj of today, Arnab Goswami would do well to do the disappearing act this week end.
I am the last person to defend Modi but the types of you congressis consider Rajiv Gandhi as some divine person.
Now you are old..this is the only mazaa left for you. You keep parroting that you are not a congressi but looking at your posts one can say you are a loyal sevak.
You must be getting lot of Mazaa in the company of terrorist Ravi because terrorists and congressis are natural allies.
when I see you defending Congress and hiding your loyalty to dynasty, I too get immense pleasure.
You really disappoint me. Where is the abuse, o abuser-in-chief? Kuchh mazaa nahin aayaa. Next time, make extra effort to be ‘nice’ to me and make my day.
As for your guesses, you have failed there too. Ab kyaa karen, aap ke intelligence level mein kuchh ……….
लखनऊ। यूपी के बंटवारे के पीछे मायावती की दलील है कि छोटे राज्यों का तेजी से विकास होता है। लेकिन अब तक के मौजूद आंकड़े इस दलील को सही नहीं ठहरा रहे। खुद मायावती का कार्यकाल भी इस आंकड़े को झुठला रहा है। कुछ मामलों में तो यूपी कई विकसित राज्यों की बराबरी कर रहा है।
साल 2011 की यूनाइटेड नेशंस डेवलपमेंट प्रोग्राम यानि यूएनडीपी की रिपोर्ट दुनिया के अलग-अलग देशों के अलग अलग राज्यों में आम आदमी के विकास को परखती है। रिपोर्ट के मुताबिक मानव विकास के मामले में अगर भारत को 50 अंक मिले हैं तो उत्तर प्रदेश को 47 अंक। वहीं क्षेत्रफल में यूपी से कहीं बड़े महाराष्ट्र को 54 अंक और नए राज्यों में से एक छत्तीसगढ़ को 45 अंक मिले हैं।
बात करें शिक्षा में विकास की तो यहां भी क्षेत्रफल में बड़े राज्य महाराष्ट्र को भारत की औसत विकास दर से ज्यादा अंक मिले हैं। इस मामले में यूपी नए राज्य छत्तीसगढ़ से थोड़ा पीछे है। वहीं आमदनी में विकास का आंकड़ा गवाह है कि एक बार फिर महाराष्ट्र जैसा बड़ा राज्य भारत की औसत विकास दर से टक्कर ले रहा है। 11 साल पहले बना राज्य छत्तीसगढ़ अब भी यूपी से पीछे ही है।
स्वास्थ्य सुधार मामले में यूएनडीपी की रिपोर्ट में भारत को 70 अंक मिले हैं। जबकि यूपी को 65 और महाराष्ट्र को 77 अंक मिले हैं। क्षेत्रफल में छोटे और नए राज्य छत्तीसगढ़ को स्वास्थ्य सुधार में सिर्फ 61 अंक मिले हैं। यानि भारत से औसत से भी कम। यूएनडीपी की ये रिपोर्ट इसी साल की है। आंकड़े गवाह हैं कि नए और क्षेत्रफल में छोटे राज्य बड़े राज्यों से मुकाबला नहीं कर पा रहे हैं। ऐसे में मुख्यमंत्री मायावती का ये दावा कि बड़े राज्यों में विकास की गति तेजी नहीं पकड़ पाती।
इसके अलावा पिछले महीने ही आई केंद्र सरकार की ह्यूमन डेवलपमेंट रिपोर्ट में भी उत्तर प्रदेश को मानव विकास के मामले में गुजरात जैसे राज्य से कहीं बेहतर माना गया था। उत्तर प्रदेश की ताकत का अंदाजा आप इन आंकड़ों से भी लगा सकते हैं कि यूपी फिलहाल देश के उन 5 राज्यों में से एक है जो विकास दर के निर्धारित लक्ष्य से भी आगे निकल गए हैं। उत्तर प्रदेश की विकास दर 7.28 फीसदी है। जबकि राज्य ने विकास दर के लिए लक्ष्य रखा था 6.10 फीसदी। ये भी ध्यान दीजिए की आजादी के बाद से 2007 तक यूपी की विकास दर कभी भी 5 फीसदी से ज्यादा नहीं रही है।
ऐसे में मायावती के इस दावे कि छोटे राज्य में ही बेहतर विकास हो सकता है खुद उनका कार्यकाल ही गलत साबित कर रहा है। जाहिर है विकास के आंकड़े छोटे राज्यों के पक्ष में जाते नहीं दिख रहे। बिहार और झारखंड का उदाहरण भी हमारे सामने है। राज्य बनने के बाद झारखंड के 37 विधायकों की संपत्ति में तीन हजार फीसदी का इजाफा हुआ है। इस छोटे से राज्य की पहचान अब भी भ्रष्टाचार, कमजोर सरकार और पिछड़ेपन की वजह से ही है।
यही नहीं, इस वक्त आंध्र प्रदेश को अलग करके तेलंगाना, महाराष्ट्र से विदर्भ, असम में बोडोलैंड और गुजरात को बांटकर अलग सौराष्ट्र। राज्य बनाने की मांग उठी हुई है।
Sab kuch theek hai ! Dont kill the idea bcos Maya has suggested it.
Believe me I grieve for UP when I see how things are done in Gurgaon or in Punjab. Even Noida and Greater Noida(in UP) being one central decison making zone manage to flourish. But rest of UP wont.
Despite
a) Tourism places lke Varanasi and Agra and what not
b) Export potential of Handicrafts
etc etc
it is just too huge. No decison ever takes place except those which benefit the CM. Inc ae it was four states, four times more decison making will happen.
there is ring of truth and honesty in what you say about the badh-haal of Gurgaon in comparison to NOIDA. I have worked in Gurgaon and Faridabad, and visited NOIDA regularly in the line of duty, and I agree with most of what you say about the city planning etc.
As for the four-way division of UP, if it is done keeping in view the socio-cultural and linguistic aspects, as Praveen Saxena has said, the idea is whose time has come. JAI U.P.
JAI BHARAT.
We all know that politicians do desperate things when they are under pressure. So Mayawati thought of this sudden and hasty move to divide UP into 4 parts.Is that going to be be “win-win” move for her , or a “win some loose some”, or a ” win some loose more “. In my view it is going to be ..”.win some loose more .”
Only Bundelkhand and Ajit Singh have been demanding division of UP.Bundelkhand for the right reasons and UP would have supported it. Ajit Singh for political reasons, that it would give him a Jat dominated state and secure his own political future but doubtful if even other non Jat segments are in favour of it.
But there has been absolutely no demand from any other area or segment.The districts shown in the 4 parts are so ill thought that it is only going to create more uncertainty and instability in the minds of the people.e.g Allahabad is more akin to Awadh than Poorvanchal. In East UP the dialect spoken is Bhojpuri but in Allahabad it is Awadhi. When I see the districts shown in the 4 divisions I see more such incongruencies than consistency. The dialect f some districts like Meerut , Saharanpur ,is Khado Boli closer to Haryana but Agra , Aligarh etc is Brij Bhasha. more akin to Badaun Mainpuri etc shown in Awadh.
My take ..Mayawati may loose more than it can hope to gain from this shagoofa.
I believe that Budelkhand region also includes parts of Madhya Pradesh. How that will be resolved? Would MP agree to let go the area in question?
I also believe the final view will have to be taken by the Parliament.
It has been suggested that the Government set up States Reorganization Commission to correctly divide larger states taking into considerations the points you have raised like languages, culture, etc. Also because there would be demands from other parts of country – Telangana is already on the boil. The others may be Vidarbha, Southern Tamil Nadu, Saurashtra, Marwar,……….. . It may open Pandora’s Box.
As I see it, Mayawati has resurrected the plan (which has been articulated and discussed many times before) to get political advantage over her rivals, which include all other parties.
Whether she will loose more than win or the other way around, only time will tell.
I am posting these links to refresh your memory or in denial (very convenient). The point is that you have chosen to give a political colour to the scandals.
You are free to justify any wrong doing by your zeroes with any ****-and-bull concoction as you deem fit, as these pertain to “purer than pure” RSS/BJP.
Happy reading. Or should I say ‘discomforting’ reading.
PS: You can post links about N D Tiwari’s escapades to complete the picture, if that makes you happy . IMO, sex and scandals know no politics.
Anonymous Reply: November 16th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@ manohar
For a retd guy… you certainly do keep a good logbook of all the sex scandals!! i am now looking forward to retirement one day…
Arre boss… hum kuch joke maar raha thaa!!
Hans lo yaaro…
Anonymous Reply: November 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Main bhi joke hi maar rahaa hoon.
I was looking for some ****-and-bull stories to have a good laugh.
No logbook – just Google.
Anonymous Reply: November 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Most congressmen confuse ‘mahila+uddhaar with mahilodar.
For them upliftment is the same as lifting up.
Anonymous
In addition, then the “neglected” regions cannot blame the distant capital for its ills and problems.
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Rahul’s big gaffe of Upites begging in Mumbai may just do him similsr damage as his father caused by calling Calcutta a decaying city. The Congress lost Bengal ever after that.
So has Rahul caused the biggest gaffe in his first appearence???
Salman Khan was in Dubai last week. A journalist asked him whether
this is his best periord of film carreer. Hel replied that best is yet to come.
Simillarly do not underestimate our Amul baby. His best is yet to come.
Mr. Mallaya has requested everyone to get drunk, which will help him
in this financial crisis. I being a person who cannot see any one in
dire straits is going to help him. I will get drunk tonight, tommorow and
day after.
If you help him, you will be making a signal contribution to the preservation, protection and restoration of ‘wild’ life, under the Wild Life Protection Act, 1972
The question is which wild life? The birds or ……….
Someone on this blog about a month back had warned me
that too much drinking will affect my ‘ performance ‘ .
If that happens I can always take revival tips from
Mr. N D Tiwari or Mr. Silvio Berlusconi. If they dont oblige
I am sure Mr. Mahipal Maderna will help me.
Anonymous Reply: November 16th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
At this age, you need advice!
Anonymous
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Musharraf : Pakistanis hold Dawood Ibrahim in high esteem.
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LONDON: Former Pakistani president and All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) Chief Pervez Musharraf said that he did not know whether or not Dawood Ibrahim, accused of being a terrorist by the US and India, is in Pakistan.
In an interview with NDTV on Tuesday, Musharraf told his interviewer Barkha Dutt that the Pakistani perspective is that Dawood Ibrahim is a man to be held in high esteem and that the “situation is complicated”.
“They (Pakistanis) think that he did a very good job… Because Indians killed 3,000 Gujratis… In Gujrat they killed 3,000 Muslims. Therefore Dawood Ibrahim reacted. So he is held in high esteem. This is what happens in Pakistan.”
India believes that Ibrahim funded and masterminded the 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai in which at least 250 people were killed and 700 injured.
Musharraf added that he does not think that terrorism is an appropriate reaction to the Gujrat massacre, but maintained that the Indian and Pakistani perspective on Ibrahim are different
Pakistan denies that Ibrahim is given protection.
Ibrahim is on Interpol’s list for organised crimes and was also designated a global terrorist by the US treasury dept in 2003.
1. 1st of all Mumbai blasts happened 10 years before Gujrat riots. Musharraf is a idiot besides being a criminal.
2. In Gujrat riots , excluding Godhra where pilgrims were killed and which sparked the riots, 254 hindus and 794 musims were killed.
Does anyone need any more proof about how the Pakistan state itself and its very top officials are directly involved in providing protection and shelter to the smuggler turned killer Dawood ?
Vajpayee was a big fool who did not see thru Musharraf. The people expected BJP to handle pakistan properly but it emulated Congress and made a mess of whole thing. It was always high on decibel and low on delivery when it came to pakistan. We can expect congressis to be compromising because they are known to sell national interest but even BJP did the same.
What stops India from covert operation to take out Dawood? In fact there is no political will to do that because many politicians from all parties have some kind of links with Dawood. If Dawood is captured or killed, his henchmen may reveal information that can be very dangerous to the health of many politicians especially the one from Congress.
India fails to understand what motivates the Pakistani criminal mind from Jinnah to Musharraf. I assume, fool Vajpayee had no appreciation of the religion inspired identity , deceit and sheer shamelessness and lack of any sense of honor or ethics that constitutes the Pak state policy and the minds of its rulers. You can see from Musharraf’s reply his perverted sense of right and wrong and brazen shamelessness about it. As per Musharraf “..Dawood did a very good job” , referring to arbitrary killing of 300-400 innocent people by Dawood in Mumbai, in so called retalaition of alleged grieviences against India. Pak criminality nd ingrained vile nature of the Pak entity is matched by Indian spinelessness and credulity.
Our journalist especially Barkha Dutt are sold out. Any other smart journalist should have asked a counter question “Is America doing good things by killing people in pakistani territory?”
You need guts to do that but people like Barkha have made their career bashing India and hindus and projecting muslims as BECHARAS.
What is the need to use abusive language, it just show your own standard of thinking, gutter. Why this news paper publish such abusive comment. You may like Gandhi, Nehru or their daughter or sons or may not like but using such abuse is condemnable.
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THIS summer of India’s discontent not only shook the nation, it also dealt a body blow to its most powerful politician, Sonia Gandhi. In August, Gandhi was whisked away to the US, ostensibly for surgery of what was believed to be an unspecified cancer.
A pall of silence fell over her, but when she returned to India in September, her Congress party, true to obsequious form, declared her ‘fighting fit’. On Nov 9 though, Gandhi cancelled her first public speech after her operation, instilling doubts about her recovery. Speculation is rampant that she will soon make way for her son, Rahul.
she empowered herself to handpick the country’s prime minister, and dismiss him at will. Beholden to her thus, he seldom fails to acknowledge her supremacy.
During her month-long absence from India, key ministers sparred with each other, almost bringing down the government. When the cat is away, the mice will play. Upon her return to India, she cracked the whip. The belligerents duly fell in line. Such clout can cloud the sensibility to distinguish between personal rights and public duties.
At 79, Manmohan Singh is no spring chicken. He too has battled grave disease. Gandhi has clearly given serious thought to succession planning. Her son Rahul Gandhi’s role in the party is set to expand, although without an immediate ascension to premiership. A stopgap prime minister has purportedly been identified in Defence Minister A.K. Antony.
Gandhi put him in charge, in part, of party matters when she went abroad, and it was he who delivered her above-mentioned speech. In cabinet meetings, all understand that his is the voice of Gandhi.
Left in the lurch is Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee, a perennial prime ministerial aspirant. He is Gandhi’s go-to man for all problems, but with the crown she will trust him not. Unlike Singh or Antony, Mukherjee commands a significant following in the Congress. His pliancy is consequently called into question, and pliancy is a sine qua non for becoming India’s premier today. After all, whenever Rahul Gandhi deems himself ready, all unseemliness must be avoided for the coronation of the crown prince. Miffed, Mukherjee has made clear that he will retire if the sceptre is not handed to him next. Without his realpolitik, a Congress government could be expected to survive about as long as a fish out of water.
Such then are the momentous decisions pending on Gandhi. For seven years, a regent-like prime minister has filled the void, with Gandhi wielding de facto power. Even Bairam Khan could hold the Mughal fort for only four years, until Akbar came of age. Unlike Akbar, Rahul Gandhi is a reluctant prince. While his mother was in the pink of health, it appeared that he had time on his side, but the runway is fast receding.
India has seen many a dynasty. Since 1947, the Nehru-Gandhi family has reigned supreme. Jawaharlal Nehru would be astonished at what he has begot. A cult-like devotion has developed for the family. Fawning courtiers outdo one another in claims of its indispensability.
Even political adversaries come to pay obeisance. Riven by division, they appreciate the value of a paramount leader, who can keep the flock in line, and the public in thrall.
Most of India’s media too has toed the line that Gandhi’s health is her own business, with rare exceptions such as The Hindu, which has questioned why an omertà, a code of silence, is being enforced on Gandhi’s health.In a democracy of over a billion, is asking whether the foremost leader is fit to lead appropriate, or is it tantamount to heresy?
her own prime minister is ill-served by her lack of transparency. Family cronies mock him at every turn. Some label him an experiment, others cry for Rahul Gandhi to take over.
Keeping all comers guessing is a hallmark of rulers, and it is said of the Gandhis that they know how to rule. The prime minister is rendered vexed whether to take the hint and quit, or stay and endure the humiliation. When his patience gets exhausted, he hesitatingly meets the press to emphasise, impromptu, that he is no lame duck. His protestations only enhance the general impression of an isolated, hapless man. Many wonder why he, who has served his country with such integrity for so long, does not pack up his bags and leave the Congress to its shenanigans.
In plunging into public life, Gandhi must have known that there would be few walls of seclusion. She says she has given India the right to know. Well, then, India has the right to know about the condition of the current arbiter of its destiny.
I thought you were not a Congressi… Congress has done everything and even worse on all the points that you have put. Why is your tongue tied when it comes to speaking truth about Congress? You want everyone to bash RSS/BJP but congress is a holy cow for you.
1. Upvaas is normal nautanki by congressis,..Modi only emulated them.
2. Congress doesn’t need Rath Yatra because Media does a PR for them,
3. Between 1991-2004, congress suffered from same sleep walking. In 2004 & 2009 35% of Congress votes came from communally polarized muslims and christians.
4. Congress did same between 1998-2004..Remember how it stalled parliament for month opposing George Fernandes.
5. No congress wallah has been arrested for 2G yet.
6. Rahul getting rid of brain without surgery.
I could go on. You get the gist. The congress is the worst and others are just Mini Mes.
You congressi corrupt can just do that..always point fingers at other. Every congressi is a digvijay..
Mazaa aaya.. You are now behaving exactly like Digvijay…Just for some mazaa either you cry RSS RSS or lick feets of Dynasty… Uncleji, Kya sharam bech ke khaa gaye…Chor-Uchchakka-pan zyada der nahi chupta..
2. Congress doesn’t need Rath Yatra because Media does a PR for them,
Blame others for the shortcomings and woes of the BJP! If it cannot manage media, how can it manage the country?
You (an expert you consider yourself, passing judgments left, right and centre) should teach the BJP how to manage the media. You can do it for free or charge Re 1/- (the value of your advice).
3. George Fernandes – parliament was not stalled, they simply used to walk out of the house.
My tongue is not tied. Read on.
I do not deny that the Congress was in doldrums – so no issues there from my side.
4. Rahul – that is why I too maintain that he is not fit to be the Prime Minister. Do you have an issue with my stand?
Rest of your post was repeat of what I said, by a low priced parrot. Next time make extra effort to come up with something original. Plagiarism is not on.
Manohar claims that he is not a congressi but on every issue right from CWG, 2G to JanLokpal to Digvijay’s filth to Rahul’s non-sense, he justifies congress. He finds communal politics played by Congress very secular in nature..Looks like this 1946 born has become senile in the company of another senile terrorist Ravi. The still think that this Congress is Congress of Mahatma Gandhi. That Congress died the day India got independence. After that came family enterprise Congress of Nehru with brief interruption of Shashtri, then congress turned corrupt and dictatorial under Indira/Sanjay/Rajiv and now it is corrupt communal fascist and anti-national under Sonia.
But Congressi trolls can not see anything except RSS…Looks like this is the only way for them to cover Congress loot.
Most of the Congressis know in their heart that Sonia’s game is up..so they are now forming alliance with terrorist elements and think that they can come back to power by playing their dirty minority communal politics.
If BJP replies in same card, I won’t be surprised. They will earn right to do so.
I think you have made your day – which you keep doing 365 days a year – so and so is a Congressi or whatever. Khush raho and sleep well after the day’s deed has been done.I look forward to you repeating it tomorrow too, the day after and …..
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After that came family enterprise Congress of Nehru with brief interruption of Shashtri, then congress turned corrupt and dictatorial under Indira/Sanjay/Rajiv and now it is corrupt communal fascist and anti-national under Sonia.
It probably is true.
So what are you going to do anything about it, sitting on the other side of the world? Only rant or anything concrete?
The fact the Congress of today is not the same as it was when India was not yet independent, is just about the best compliment a political party can wish for. Today’s India is not the same as it was before the independence, as India has evolved so has the congress party.
Let us contrast this with the Sangh Parivar.
At its inception it was pushing on two fronts. Artificially trying to homogenize a richly diverse Hindu population into a very large communal vote bank and ensuring that Muslims were for once and for all terrorised into accepting a second-class citizenship.
To achieve the above, it has high-jacked the history of India and started to magnify minor players into gigantic personalities. Even highjacking the congress hardman and making him their own.
Whilst it opposes religious fundamentalism in neighbouring countries, it manages to camouflage its own religious fascistic fundamental agenda, by labelling it as nationalism. In that respect, its objectives and tactics are indistinguishable from those practiced by the Italian fascist party.
Since it knows that its real policies are largely unpalatable, it from the start adopted the tactic of not focusing on policies, but instead unreasonably but relentlessly attacking personalities. One can witness that same technique being practiced on this very page and previous blogs.
You know that they have lost the argument when every other post labels one as a terrorist, Osama lover, a ******* of a white father and a mother of loose morals, etc.
Today Congress is Casteist, corrupt, communal like muslim league and anti-national…If that is a compliment, you truly are son of Osama and Osama is a prophet.
1) Attempts to borrow leaders and show them as their own , desperate tries to project themselves as them – Loh Purush, Chhote Sardar (he will remain small). Stark bankruptcy of their own “tallest” leaders or not worth projecting them.
Why the likes of Shyama Prasad Mukherjee, Din Dayal Upadhya, Hegdewar, Golwalkar and others do not merit attention by the BJP?
2) Soon after the BJP came to power. They let out a falsehood that so and so – one of their ‘tallest’ leaders, was a President of the Lucknow University Students Union in 1942 or 1943, to show how tall he was. In doing so, they forgot one little detail – the man who was actually the President was very much alive and so were many of the office-bearers. All round condemnation of the BJP’s attempt to rewrite history of the students union followed.
Lies, falsehoods, untruths, innuendos, …………..
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The RSS supporters’ first and the last defence is to shoot the messenger – call him names, abuse him, attribute motives, suspect his credentials (as if these trolls have divine right to sit in judgment over others) and the latest parroting.
Arguments to counter? They do not have them in first place. So many times it is some ****-and-bull concoctions. Even ***** and bulls will be amazed to hear them. Or justify by pointing out misdeeds of others.
All these arguments are very stale and don’t make any sense. You congressis and terrorists are the one who use abuse when you have no answer. You are scared to condemn potty-mouth Rahul because he provides you with status quo.
All you can do is lie and lie & keep dreaming it will become truth one day. Today you and Ravi, one ardent congressi and other terrorist stand marginalized on this forum. That speaks volumes about who is speaking the truth.
Why does Mr Vinod Sharma get his stories wrong?
After Vir Sanghvi questioned the HT story on the Shanti Bhushan CD, the SC yesterday asked the CBI to explain its stand on allegations against the Amit Shah. To quote the TOI
“ The bench indicated its agreement with Jethmalani’s submissions and told additional solicitor general Vivek Tankha, who appeared for CBI, that “the complaints appears to be absolute trash”.
“Mr Tankha, you (the CBI) are supposed to be the finest investigating agency. You have to respond to all these lapses and deficiencies. The insinuations (against Shah) were wholly unwarranted and totally unfair,” the bench said. “
I recall there was a TV discussion on the CWG loot and Mr Vinod Sharma instead of talking on that kept yelling at the Panel “but what about Amit Shah “.
Alas…
The CBI has no credibility. It has been misused by the party in power. Congress has misused it the most, as it has been in power the most.
Its conviction rate is pathetic 4%.
What is amazing that the politicians from all parties keep demanding CBI probe in almost every case. Are they genuine demands (knowing its incompetence) or a deliberate attempt to derail the investigation to protect one of their own (the politicians in most of the cases) or only to target their opponents?
The officers concerned should be made to pay for botching up investigations.
Perhaps to insulate the agency from political interference, the solution lies in making it a constitutional authority, like the Election Commission.
Arnab Goswami mentioned on Times Now last night that there was a growing consensus that the opposition would block Parliament’s winter session as well. Like I explained – it helps the BJP if Parliament shuts down and no laws can be passed. Then the BJP can claim that the government is in a freeze. The BJP wants a logjam in Parliament. If the BJP had its way, it would ensure a logjam for the remaining three years. They don’t care about the country. All they care about now is grabbing power. The BJP leaders shout “Bharat Mata ki jay” and “Vande Mataram” at every gathering in a show of nationalism; yet when the time comes to prove its nationalism in action, it does the exact opposite..
The real truth is more than the Left, it’s the BJP’s stand on FDI that is disturbing. Atleast the Left is consistent in opposing FDI. The BJP is opportunistic – when it is in power, it supports FDI. Yet when it is in opposition, it opposes it. The BJP truly needs to introspect…..the people are not fools after all
“yeh sab mamooli cheezehn” the jihadi and his side-kick, the congressie troll will now say and indulge in some more RSS-BJP bashing, for release of their pent up hatred for the two organisations.
Look who is talking..the one who abuses everyone who doesn’t agree with his warped view as Sanghi.
The one who starts every sentence with Sanghi and ends with Sanghi. The one who finds hindu symbols communal..
The one who finds nothing wrong with Corruption, Islamic terror..
The one who aligns with a known jehadi sympathiser just because he provides him fodder of hatred against Indians…
Ram milyai jodi..ek andha..ek kodhi..
Sahi hai..Terrorism aur Congress are synonym of each other.
“Thank you’ for telling me my own own views and opinions, which I was ‘ignorant’ about. Let us have many more. I am waiting with baited breath for further revelations. I am becoming a ‘better’ person with your ‘help’. Cannot thank you enough.
Abuse you? I am not a person who will stoop to your level. Do not be under any impression that everybody is like you.
About me lying to myself? Another ‘revelation’ – that too goes into my autobiography. You have been great ‘help’..
Anonymous Reply: November 18th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
You started it first posting sarcastic comments about me when I was away for 18 hours. You are the one who abuses everyone calling them sanghi. Now that everyone is calling you congressi troll, you are all riled up.
You are in great company of known terrorist sympathiser..
Anonymous Reply: November 18th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Calling some one a sanghi or RSS troll is a abuse? I am amazed.
Sarcasm is one way to tell a person enough is enough, any day better way than abuse.
Anonymous Reply: November 19th, 2011 at 4:04 am
Is calling someone closet corrupt Congressi an abuse?
Sarcasm should be a two-way street…so should logic.
I still fail to under why you call everyone Sanghi who doesn’t agree with your viewpoint. You are increasingly becoming Ravi’s proxy.
Read your own post and see how you agree with Ravi on everything…
Anonymous Reply: November 19th, 2011 at 4:46 am
Is calling someone closet corrupt Congressi an abuse?
No. You have used much worse language than that against many of us.
If I agree with everything with Ravi, so what? Is there a law which says I cannot?
I do not and will not object to you agreeing with others.
Anonymous
It is strange that Islamic terrorist is hiding behind 65 year old congressi who is out of touch with reality. He migrated to west when India was land of milk and honey under Indira Gandhi…He became a beggar when he should have stayed back in india.
Untruths, falsehoods and innuendos passed off as truth – a la RSS. – this time the target is me. ‘Great’ armchair investigation. Surely you must have been trained in some RSS shakha to come with ‘facts’ about me, which even I am not aware of. Thank you, what could I have done without your enlightenment. I would also like to know many more facts about me – which only you ‘know’ and I am ‘ignorant’ about. Will you oblige?
Looking at your posting, there is clear indication-
1. You are die hard Congressi.
2. An old grumpy man sitting alone at home.
3. Have been corrupt thru out life.
4. You will shamelessly team up with low lives just to score some brownie point.
5. Your criticism of Congress is always soft so that you can harshly criticize RSS and BJP.
6. You hold Nehru-Gandhi dynasty divine. Your NO-COMMENT on Rahul’s filth and behaviour of minister at Phulpur clearly show your bias,
7. You hold identical views to Congress on all issues. All your difference are merely a way to fool people.
8. You consider congress’s minority communalism secular but when BJP talks of hindu then you call it communal.
9. On many occasion you have conceded that Congress is same or worse than BJP but you always end up agreeing with terrorist Ravi.
You have fooled us enough…You are a hypocrite, corrupt and communal congressi who wants this dynasty to rule India thru whatever means possible.
Basically a digvijay kind of guy..total thug.
I always considered you neutral but you have let me down badly. You will never see me supporting RSS because for me RSS is as bad as Congress and harmful to nation whereas you keep bashing RSS but defend congress on same issue for which you profess your hatred for RSS. A biased mind can never be neutral..Your thinking has been hijacked by terrorist minded fake-sikh Ravi.
Good. You have given me a lot of material about me, which I was not aware of. This material can be foundation of autobiography which now I plan to pen. Now there are some missing ‘facts’ (which I am not aware of), which you should tell me, given your ‘extraordinary investigative skills’. You said I migrated to West. Can you tell me which country I migrated to, the name of the airline, the flight number and the city I landed and the date, month and year. Most important, which city and which street corner where I started my career as a beggar (a ‘fact’ revealed by you earlier). I will ask your for more ‘help’ later to fill in more details as I go along. The title I have in mind is – what else – lies, untruths, falsehoods and innuendos I will dedicate the book to a low-priced parrot – oops – you.
NB: Do not worry, such a autobiography based on lies, untruths, falsehoods and innuendos will find ready buyers outside numerous RSS shakhas all over India. These khakhi knickerwalas will lap it up – given the fact that their daily staple diet is – what else – lies, untruths, falsehoods and innuendos.
Anonymous Reply: November 18th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Repeating RSS RSS..can not solve your problems. You need to work on your bias. You are now becoming allies of terrorists just because you hate your own countrymen.
Anonymous Reply: November 19th, 2011 at 4:13 am
See new thread.
Anonymous Reply: November 18th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
You wrote
‘I always considered you neutral but you have let me down badly’.
All I can say is that you overlook or ignore what I write about all and the Congress party in particular. I suspect you assume my bashing the RSS/BJP means the I am pro-congress. In one of my responses to you in another thread here, I agreed with you that Rahul Gandhi is not fit to be the Prime Minister. What else you want me to do – call him names and abuse him, given the fact I do not abuse any RSS/BJP leaders? This is just one example.
I may have called you a low-priced parrot or an idiot at most or questioned your intelligence. Thats about it.
I hope this clears the air.
Ravi Reply: November 18th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
I doubt it will
Anonymous Reply: November 18th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
I can always engage with Manohar after a little banter but as far as you are concerned, you remain a terrorist sympathiser. I have more than enough posts of you praising Islamic terrorism so don’t you dare equate yourself with Manohar whom you are trying to misguide using divide and rule policy.
Anonymous Reply: November 19th, 2011 at 4:50 am
I am only hoping. Let use wait and watch.
Anonymous Reply: November 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Manohar,
You have been mostly mild in your criticism of Congress however you have been extremely harsh and sometimes used vocabulary of Ravi to bash RSS and everyone who doesn’t agree with your views. I know you are better than that. You did not say a word against Rahul’s filthy speech at Phulpur. A union minister Jitin Prasad acted like a Goonda. Had this been done by BJP person, you would have called that person all kinds of name. You have to accept that you have sympathies for Congress..This may be due to that you don’t seen any alternative but you shouldn’t hestitate to call wrong a wrong.
Right now you have become a proxy of Ravi unknowingly. This cunning person has been using you to propogate his hatred.
This person Ravi finds great ally in Islamic terrorists and pakistan but has extreme hatred for Hindus (and also sikhs).
We may have difference of opinion with RSS but to hate RSS more than Islamic terrorist and pakistan is a stretch that only Ravi can do..He has been systematically using you as an ally and posting his usual propaganda without substance against Indian (that includes RSS also).
Anonymous
Shenoy,
I think you are trying to compare Bhatt with Kambli and your main intention is to defend Modi. Let me tell you that this comparison is illogical.
Azhar has been found guilty of match fixing charges so kambli’s allegation may be true whereas Modi is yet to be convicted so Bhatt’s allegations may or may not be true.
Lastly looking at Modi’s utterances, I feel he is not fit for national politics. He should accept responsibility for failing to protect minorities in 2002 riots. Why doesn’t he come up with a white paper on what Guj. Govt. did to stop riots with complete timeline.
I saw Azharuddin on TV yesterday. Much as I do not like him or his joininjg the terrorist friendly party, I believ he was honest in his claim that there was no match fixing in that particular match. Please note that most knowledgeable people have condemned Kambli not only for coming out with his version of the truth, but also for levelling serious charge of match fixing.
My comparison between Kambli and Bhatt was only in the matter of their forgetfulness of 16 years in Kambli’s case and 9years in the case of Bhatt.
I agree with you that Bhatt is crass in his attacks on Modi and is being used by the congressies.
“The fact the Congress of today is not the same as it was when India was not yet independent, is just about the best compliment a political party can wish for.”
Now if we replace Congress Party with Islam in this sentence the same Ravi will go bonkers and claim Islam has always remained unchanged so according to Ravi’s logic Islam is not progressive like Congress.
It seems that Narendar Modi has decided that he will no longer be attending the party’s national executive meetings if Gadkari would be present there. Which considering his position, will amount to ALL the meetings.
No one knows the real reason as why such a draconian decision was taken by India’s most successful chief minister.
Here are some possibilities;
1. RSS has decided that it will not back Narendar Modi for the post of Prime Minister.
2. RSS has decided that Nitin Gadkari will be its preferred candidate for the post of Prime Minister.
3. The meetings are held in a room that can accommodate only one ego at a time.
4. The meeting room is so small that once Nitin Gadkari has been pushed into it, there remains no space for Narendar Modi to enter.
5. Narendar Modi is afraid that the large dark shadow cast by Gadkari will eclipse his glorious visage.
It appears that Nitin Gadkari has quietly dropped RSS’s cherished dream of erecting a Ram Temple in Ayodhya. Instead it now favours the establishment of Gandhi’s Ram Rajya in UP.
Little does he know that in some shape or form he may get what he is hoping for.
It is the fond hope of jihadi fundoos like you that there will be no Ram temple in Ayodhya. There is already in existence a Ram temple in the same spot where the domw of the babri masjid stood. Millions of Ram bhakts have already visited and prayed at this mandir since ages. So Gadkari has nothing to “drop”.
We have achieved our aim of building a Ram temple at his birthplace in Ayodhya, now who cares what a Pakistani jihadi says or bleats?
Anonymous Reply: November 19th, 2011 at 6:46 am
Possibly, but I will not bet on it. IMO, the UP election is primarily a fight between the BSP and the SP, as of today.
The Congress has to project a local leader, who will be CM, if it gets to form the Government. Without that it will be a very steep curve for it to make a significant dent – it may just improve upon its present tally of 21 MLAs. With BSP and SP – people know who will be calling the shots.
It does not look like that the BJP is a significant player.
We are not here to discuss here the political leanings or background or whatever about the bloggers themselves, but to comment and discuss the issues.
Henceforth, I will refrain from commenting upon or discussing the bloggers. Strictly issues – you may or may not agree with my views and opinions and can ignore them. If you or someone else wishes to draw any conclusions and air them, be by guest – it would not make any difference.
Till we question the decision-making processes of our democracy, merely creating more power and more infrastructure would not help.
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Now he is talking sense. The question is why has he and his associates been making so much noise to create a monster Lokpal – another bureaucratic infrastructure. with unbridled powers and answerable to none?
To reduce corruption and to streamline governance – the solutions lie elsewhere.
this congressie troll said yesterday, “I now will wait for the repeat performance tomorrow.” And look, true to his word, he is back to bashing Anna and Kejriwal! About terrorist Ravi, don’t forget that even with active support from Vinod Sharma, Prabhat, Mahesh and this congressie troll, he couldn’t get away with his falsest claim about 5000 dalit rapes everyday in India by upper caste Hindus.
Rajeev,
thanks for posting this link.
Anyone wonders why Zia Haq does not blog about this? Or, Vinod Sharma does not speak in defence of his boss in National Minorities Commission?
Oh, okay. I get it. Ahmadaiyas are not Muslims- so, Zia does not care. And, since they are not Muslims, they are not minorities ; so, Vinod Sharma does not take notice of them.
But why did Mr Vinod Sharma get his stories wrong?
I am bewildered and even distressed that Mr Vinod Sharma , Political Editor of HT got his stories wrong. But how did it happen .. why? Is it because he is losing his touch as a top-notch journalist and forgetting the basic rules of reporting i.e. cross verifying the facts ? No …he was ‘Seperated at Birth from Pakistan but cannot be separated from the rules of Reporting.. Was he under pressure ? Sorry… No one and I repeat …No one ..can pressurize Mr Vinod Sharma. Did someone mislead him ? Possible … but unlikely as Mr Vinod is a veteran. So… why ? I sometimes get a feeling that he slipped because he has fallen in bad company.. Mr Vinod Sharma ki sohbat bigad gayi hai , aur is buri sohbat ki vajah se galat likh jaate hain. And not just that , even on TV he often says wrong things. So what should he do ?
I think he should stop meeting and talking to bad people . He should stop visiting places where he meets those bad people. But who are these bad people ? They are those who loot public money , who appoint tainted people to high positions, who kick and punch those who protest against them, who mount false cases against those who oppose them … and once this happens I am sure Mr Vinod Sharma shall come out as the shining white knight , who everyone shall be so happy to see.
That there are intolerant and bigots across the whole spectrum of our society and our Governments spineless to uphold fundamental liberties and rights. Ban this ban that, stop this, stop that. Nothing new.
I thought all communals are on this blog only. Rajeev, Shenoy, Vijay , Mohan and
many others, but I was shocked to watch this season’s last episode of KBC
on Thursday. In the begining of the episode Vande Mataram can be heard in
background. Shame on these people. Sony, Amitabh Bachchan and promoters
of KBC should appologize for hurting the sentiments of secular people of India.
He who wants can make political football out of vanda mataram. Like bukhari imaam or slime Dr zakir naik. Otherwise it is beautiful soul stirring song. Thanks KBC
Here is how the Gestapo harass a small time barber:
While hair cutting, official Barber asked Kapil Sibal, ‘’What’s this
Swiss Bank issue, Sir?
Kapil Sibal shouted, “YOU, you are cutting hair or making inquiry?”
Barber: Sorry Sir, I just asked.
Next day, while cutting the hair, he asked Pranab Mukherjee, “Sir, what’s
this Black money issue?’’
Pranab shouted, ‘’Why did you ask me this question?’’
Barber: ‘’Sorry Sir, just asked you’’
Next day, CBI interrogated the Barber, ‘’Are you an agent of Baba
Ramdev?’’
Barber: No Sir.
CBI: Are you the agent of Anna?
Barber: No Sir.
CBI: Then while cutting the hair, why do you ask Congress Ministers about
Swiss Bank and Black money issues?
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*Barber: Sir, I do not know why, when I ask about Swiss Bank or Black
money, Congress Ministers’ hairs stand up straight;
and that helps me to cut the hair easily; that’s why I keep asking…
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~~~ MY 5 CRORE CHALLENGE AND QUESTION TO VINOD SHARMAJI ~~~~
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The priest of the Christian church of Jammu and Kashmir, Shri CM khanna is being hounded, harassed and threatened by the Mirwiaz, Hizbul, PDP and what not for “forcibly” converting 7 Muslims to Christianity.
Vinodji as member of the National minorites commision, can you not save this poor guy. Can you not issue a statement that as a minority in Jammu and Kashmir, the priest is being denied of his rights and it was within his right to convert the Muslims.
If you do so, I promise that I will create an internet movement to raise five crores and also get all blogmates like Shenoy, Rajeev, Ashish etc to join in. Of course Ravi and Engrich and Tejendar may not join in.
However I request that this statement should not have qualifiers like BJP, Narendra Modi, Babri Masjid, RSS etc etc
jinke ghar sheeshe ke hote hain doosron par pathar nahin phekte.missionaries have full right to convert those whom elite of our society cannot help.missionaries are doing great job.i support them.but u are supporting because now their target is muslim.so isaid crocodile tears.
Engrich,
You are mistaken.
The song has no anti-Muslim part in it.
Especially the first stanza, that is our national song.
I show gratitude to thee, Mother,
richly-watered, richly-fruited,
cool with the winds of the south,
dark with the crops of the harvests,
The Mother!
Her nights rejoicing in the glory of the moonlight,
her lands clothed beautifully with her trees in flowering bloom,
sweet of laughter, sweet of speech,
The Mother, giver of boons, giver of bliss.
what i have written is correct.bankim was british agent and terrorist.anand math was written by this british slave to divide society.congress party was a team of hi du fascists.they made this national song.though it is war cry against muslims.
1. The original intent of the poem, should not matter. If it did then the poem would forever be a prisoner of the authors intent (what-ever that may have been).
2. All pieces of literature, and this poem is no exception, eventually break free from its original moorings and assumes an independent life.
3. Vast majority of Indian’s adopted this song, only after it itself became independent.
4. Such is the ambigious beauty of any language and Sanskrit is a beautiful language that each one of us is able to draw what ever meaning we wish and more importantly draw no meaning what so ever, by remembering the words and forgetting the meaining.
5. When the above happens the song, instead of belonging to one community, or one ideology, becomes everybody’s song. This universality propels it to the status of an anthem.
6. Paul McCartney wrote “Hey Jude”, for a specific person (Julian Lennon). It is now an anthem universally enjoyed around the world.
Why Vande Matram was brought-up as a topic here, is another matter. The subject of a different post.
As both of us know, we belong to opposing political view-points. I too read all posts here and where possible, I try to respond in a light-hearted manner, which occasionally is with small measures of wit too.
We also try to score points by showing each other the weaknesses and strength of their own political groups. All this is accepted as normal.
But if someone or a group of people support congress party and by obligation all its leaders even when that party is known to support terrorists, anti-nationals, corrupt, pseudo secular, and call those who point out the real face of the party and its leaders RSS, Hindu fundamentalists etc., then it leads to war of words. Unfortunately this too is normal here.
However, Prahlad, since you are an occasional visitor here and you only hit us with mild barbs, I accept your opinion with due humility. Let us war, but with humour and wit.
What you had written was all assumption.
What I wrote was a fact which was shown
on Sony . Now, Is Vande Mataram communal ?
Many people think that this is communal song
and I have read few articles on this subject .
Even Anna and his team were critisized when some
of his followers had sang this song at his rally.
Atleast one person openly claims on this blog that
this song is an insult to muslims. Hence communal.
Now the points which you have raised.
1. I have no idea.
2. It would not make any difference to me whether
Vande Matar, Azaan or Sheila Ki Jawani was played.
3. My mother used to read Guru granth Sahib daily,
and this great book is higly revered at our home.
If I hear anywhere ‘ Wahe guru ji da khalsa,
wahe guru ji da fatah ” , with great respect I will repeat the same .
You can draw your conclusion whether your post was a mischief or mine .
Manohar,
it is not personal. I mean, it is not targted at you in particular.
However, Shuddhabrata Sengupta makes the point most eloquently that all our vaunted secularism fails when it comes to taking obscurantist Muslims to task for their own intolerance.
Other than Wajahat Habibullah, no prominent Muslim came out in support of the exhibition and the story itself was allowed a quiet burial in national press.
So, repeating my posers to Vinod Sharma and Zia Haq again. Simple points:
1. Are Ahmadiyas Muslims? Yes/ No
2. If no, are they allowed to believe they are Muslims themselves and hold their meetings/ preachings peacefully? Like anybody else in this country?
3. Are Ahmadiyas minorities deserving of TLC of Vinod Sharma in his role as NMC member?
Ashish-
Secularism in Inda is a joke, essentially pushing smart TamBrahms to USA..(essentially that is what happened here in Tamil Nadu)
As far as Muslims are concerned, thanks to Congress’ largesse, they will remain dependent on the bones thrown at them…
But I still keep my hope that Indian Muslims will eventually transform as the “model” Muslims – it is not going to happen in the “jasmine” revolution countries — look what is happening in Egypt, Tunisia…hard core Islamists have taken control!
ahmadis are very much muslim.they are victim of democracy where politics is played on weak.like muslims of india.haseena wazid is doing the same in bngladesh ,her victims are 90 years old bangladeshis,whom she labels as pakistani and hang.
i think christians sikhs many south indian hindu communities and many north indian hindu comunities ,who dont worship bengalee deities also opposed this.
but in anti-muslims hate compaign minds and eyes were closed.
this is a point .national song should praise nation not dieties of certain areas.but as it hurtds the feeling of muslims bjp insists for it.
sare jahan se achcha was best song for this purpose.but as it was written by a muslim brhmn it was rejected.
though bangladesh has taken tagoree song as their national song.
first national song of pakistan was written by a hindu ,jaganath azad.
tell me anything wrong or objectionable.dont start comparison.bankim was terrorist and british agent a collaborator and ghaddar.like most of the brhmn communalist of that time.
dont follow him.but dont talk bullshitduring political and democratic discussions dont bring holy figures.
i know u are a mad man..
Anonymous Reply: November 20th, 2011 at 5:51 am
In a madrasa, while reading the quran, you have to shake your body rhythmically front and back and hence engrich might have missed the terrorist point that you are making.
Anonymous
Good Morning.
OK. I see the point from your perspective and agree to a large extent. There could be problem though – we will be confronted with – how dare you interfere in our personal matters.
One could say French have been one of the most secular nations in practice, telling everyone – do not make a public spectacle of your goddam (pun intended) religion.
However, when at home we start dictating to one religion or the other, then we should also be prepared for others to dictate to us.
Anonymous Reply: November 20th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Yes. It is the same as – if you have a right to offend, then you have the obligation to be offended.
Anonymous
Rajeev, Ashish,
First the beard. Mohammed Salim, the student, felt so aggrieved and his religious beliefs and practices so challenged by the Christian management that he approached the supreme court.
Justice Katju, the great secularist, said, “we cannot allow beards and burquas because, ‘We don’t want to have Talibans in the country’.”
There were howls of protests by Muslim fundamentalists and also secular muslims, but the loudest protests and condemnations came from the pseudo secular Hindus.
Salim was asked to go back to the school clean-shaven.
But, soon afterwards, the same maha secular Justice Katju appologised to the Muslim community and the SC reversed the judgement granting Mohammed Salim and others of his ilk to the right to defy school orders and sport beards if they like.
So, we just sit on our hands and wait for God to appear again? Quran also says that there will be no prophet after Mohammed, as revealed by the last prophet himself.
What you are basically saying is that Muslims are incapable of reforming themselves; but, why shy away from saying that, we in India will need to own the reforming that needs to happen to our Muslim fellow citizens’ lives?
This is the fake secularism that has screwed up the Muslims in India.
I am not saying anything, I am just as frustrated as you are.
But we are where we are. The world is neither a perfect place nor it is the way we would like it to be. But it is what it is.
If one looks at the issue of Ahemadis, Sufi’s, etc from the perspective of the POINT above then one can begin to understand as to why the Salafi Sunni’s consider Ahemadi’s and Sufi’s as not true muslims.
For other reasons, but Conventional Sikhs do not consider Dera Sacha Sauda as true sikhs.
Brahmo Samji’s are not exactly accepted as Hindus by certain other Hindus.
Some denominations of Christianity, do not recognise Mormons, Jehova’s Witness, etc as true Christians.
You can fill the rest.
If Indian Secularism is not perfect and that it is exploited by the Congress for its narrow electoral political gains, then rotten as it is, but that is politics.
Elsewhere, I have suggested that because RSS is so overtly courting Hindus (29% so far best ever achieved) then Congress becomes the natural home for others.
The point is, there are Political Parties, such as the Labour Party, The communist Party, The Socialist Party, which are clearly SECULAR.
Then there are the, Akali Dal, The Christian Democratic Union, The RSS and its variants, The Mulsim League, and its variants, which are clearly religious parties and therefore NOT SECULAR.
The Indian National Congress is imperfectly SECULAR.
IMO, the only outside intervention would be for the Governments to enforce the rule of the law(*) and not to pander to the whims of the these loony “offended’ gangs. To send out a clear message – the Constitution is supreme and religions can go take a walk.
That is – the books and films should have never been banned, stern action against those who vandalized exhibitions and meetings, ransack TV studios, destroy public property, etc.
* Our constitution and the laws are enough to enforce a just, liberal and modern discourse. The will to do so is missing – for known reasons. Spineless governments.
Jammu and Kashmir Police have arrested a pastor of the All India Saints Church following allegations against him of converting several Muslim youth to Christianity, officials said today.
Pastor C M Khanna was arrested from his residence in the church premises in Ram Munshi Bagh area here late last night after he was named in a case relating to alleged conversions, they said.
They are all in one big Rugby Singing Scrum, singing Vande Matram. They will not be allowed to break the scrum until they have all grown a beard in sympathy.
As per Indian standards, the order of priority kid glove treatment of fanatics is-
1. Muslims – Taslima Nasreen, Rushdie..
2. Christians – Da vinci code, North East controlled by churches, Kerala
3. Sikhs
4. Buddhists
5. Hindus and everyone else – MF Hussain..
Secular Hindu is an animal, which runs away and hides behind closed doors when Islamic fundamentalism has to be addressed and becomes ferocious and joins the terrorists when Hindus are being terrorised.
I think the reason any of it ever gets mentioned here, is simply because it is yet another opportunity for some, to exercise their hatred of Islam.
The rest I agree with you that conversion is a complex matter much beyond all of us here, individually or collectively. So we indulge in bashing each other, score cheap points, etc.
I like the idea that Religion should be treated as a commodity, and it should be the subject of Market Forces.
What I had in mind is, let the poor benefit from converting to and fro from one religion to another – for money.
Let a bidding war break-out and this way at least the poor will benefit.
In the end the God will punish him (?) just as harshly for not attending the Temple as SHE would for him not attending the Church/Gurudwara/Mosque, etc.
You are the biggest supporter of the Wahabis.
You are the wahabi jihadi, beyond any shred of doubt.
Anybody writing anything against Christian/Muslim conversion will always appear “rant” to you.
You would do well to confine yourself to the “5000 dalit rapes by caste Hindus” theme and wallow in it.
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~ VINOD SHARMA JI…. conversion challenge question ka inaam RS-1,00,00,000~~
~~~~~ P U R A D -A – S C R O R E RUPAIYA ~~~~~~
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Arundhati Roy’s bosom pal Geelani had called for a bandh and punishment of apostasy for the Pastor CM Khanna.
The Mirwiaz has called for an all party meeting and PDP has announced a relgious war. The Grand Mufti Bashiruddin has started giving muft ka communal lectures.
The two jehadi- wahabbi T U R D S and much in love couple of this site RAV1 and Engrich have tried to call it forced conversions.
Vinodji as member of the minorites commission why are you silent on the hounding of the pastor????????
I have raised the prise money to 10 crores inc ase you condemn this hounding without getting the RSS, BJP, Babri Masjid, Narendra Modi into this…………
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The Liberal Position on Religious Conversions.
1. NO FORCED CONVERSIONS – no matter from which religion into which religion.
2. Religion is a personal matter if one, out of self-will wishes to change then that should be no one else’s business.
3. As for the current controversy is concerned – “forced conversions of Kashmiri Muslims through allurements”. If these are indeed FORCED conversions then I am against them and have no hesitation in condemning them.
However, I do recognise the mischievous intent of the Hindu Fundo’s who have posted these provocative posts.
“How those who acccepted materialistic endowments in return for switching religious affiliations have – smartly enough – practically poked fun at the whole notion of religion”.
I do not think it is so.
1) It is grim prospect of survival that induces these people to clutch/accept anything to make sure of their next meal and perhaps also to secure better future for their progeny – education, etc. There is no such thing as free lunch – either you pay by cash or changing your beliefs or sell one’s body (and soul). The vested interests in the business of conversions (for whatever reasons) take advantage of this fact.
People have done worse things (and will continue to do so) than changing their religion in order to survive.
We through our Governments have failed to guarantee life of dignity for the people in question.
2) A point to ponder. Perhaps these people who convert to other faiths were never very religious in the first place, so going through conversion ceremony and formally accepting another religion is just an exercise. Or are they more liberal and modernistic than the rest? Are they sending out a message that all religions lead one to the same God and it does not matter which path one takes?
3) I agree with your observation about aw enforcement agencies and judiciary are true. In different threads here, we have been discussing spineless governance.
As a youngster wanting to know the basics of democracy… I was looking forward to a reply on my ten crore question. Well the question has been flagged off !!
Zardari may be corrupt and not liked by majorities of fanatic pakistanis but if you see him from Indian point of view, he is the least anti-India politician in pakistan.
India should try to help him out indirectly in whatever way possible. He is definitely much better than English speaking Jamat-e-Islami Imran Khan.
BJP should not emulate example of Corrupt, anti-national Congress. It should allow PC to function as he heads a very important Home Ministry. If there is a blast, PC will simply put the blame on BJP for not allowing him to do the Job. Digvijay works very closely with IM so beware..
As I too am an ace debater like some of the self-proclaimed ace debaters here, you have to refer to my 25 posts in the last 5 blogs. Take out print-outs if you like the replies. As a rule, ace debaters expect their posts to be worth taking print-outs of.
At all blog mates. A huge mystery of the Cosmos has been unravelled!! A four sided Hijra was discovered. The origins of the Hijra can be traced to the training camps of Al Zawhari and Osama. And the college degree IT has is from WCJ — Wahabbi College of Jehad.
The four sided Hijra looks different from various sides.
Side A– Tajendra,
Side B– Engrich
Side C– Ram Autar
Side D– Ravi
Proof of them being the same and one Hijra can be found in the last blog where Ravi accidently lets the mask slip and calls Engirch as Ram Autar !!
Proof of them being one and the same thing can be found in matching thought processes ! ! !
Proof of them being all mutants but one can be found in their intentions of hurting India and injuring Hindus !!!!
Proof of them being all same can be found in their mutual cooing and love sounds… !!!!!
Detective Vijay Kumar is willing to bet the last fake counterfiet dollar and rupee printed in the ISI press in Muridke manned by Ravi that
All four are without Ling..
they are all. one and the same thing..
HAHAHHAHHHAA !! HA HAHA !! HA HAHAH !!!HAAAAHHAHHAAAA
I think we need to be on the guard. The government at the centre is weak. Pakistan has often used a confrontatin with India to unite itself. If Zardari goes, we can only get someone who is worse. Imran khan in my opinon would be the worst…
Well Zardari does seem to be the best at hindsight. As Vinod Sharmaji has pointed out Musharraf and Imran Khan may combine. That would be a bad recipie for India. In that case Nawaz and Zardari may recombine…
Anonymous Reply: November 22nd, 2011 at 9:20 am
@ Vinoo
In the end that means that the present dispensation of Nawaz and Zardari is the best Pakistan can provide to India.
Anonymous Reply: November 22nd, 2011 at 9:23 am
Vijay/Vinoo
Combination of Musharaf and Imran Khan will be
deadly. Disastrous for India.
First one fanatic with a military background and mastermind of Kargil attack and another an
educated fanatic. Very Very dangerous combination.
Anonymous Reply: November 22nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
@ Mohan
100% agree. We need to watch out. These guys might just also place Asia on a path fo confrontation with the world
Anonymous Reply: November 22nd, 2011 at 10:04 am
@ mohan
The Indian media has a soft spot for both of them. Just because they manage to get them to their annual debates and discussions. They forget that behind the polish… both are faces of Jinnah.
Anonymous Reply: November 22nd, 2011 at 9:48 am
@ Vinoo
U know my position. As far as Mr Mir Jafar and Jaichand is concerned… he would first count the dole which side gives and join the que !
Pretty funny !! made me smile…
Engirch, Tajendar and Ram Autar are definately three sides of the same hijra.
Thoug I think Ravi is a different person. He does have an agenda, though at times he sounds reasonable. but is certainly one dimensional in his comments on the Indian politcal situation. Hope he changs his tune.
some of the “friends of Pakistan” are advocating ‘love them, hug them to the bosom’ kind of treatment to the terrorist nation, which has never paid any dividends in the last several decades and will not work particularly now. India should do everything possible to dismember Balochistan from the already truncated Pakistan as our top priority, to be achieved within the next five years. Rest of the parts can be dismembered “aaraam se”.
Whatever we do Pakistan will never consider India
as a friend. India should use diplomacy and its current economic power and force other countries
to boycott Pakistan. It will hurt them eventually.
Smuggled goods will cost them heavely and everything cannot be smugled.
If I am not wrong Libya bowed down because of
complete boycott by most of the countries and paid
USD 2.7 billion as a compensation to victims of
airplane blowup. Highest comensation ever :
USD 10 million per person.
We have been down this road before two blogs earlier.
We do not have that clout to force the rest of the world to do our bidding. China for example, will it listen to us? We do not have a permanent seat in the UN with veto powers either to have some influence.
China with all its greater might – economic and military – still does not have the clout it imagines it deserves – it has reduced itself to caricature – by attempting to dictate and threaten the rest – do this or don’t do this or else.
Libya – because it involved their own citizens that the US/European powers forced it to pay up. Plus the significant fact Libya did/does not have nuclear arms.
“Advantages’ of Appointing Dr.Fahmida Mirza (Speaker National Assembly) as President of Pakistan.”
With the scenario of treason charges and bad performance of Mr. Zadora as the president of Pakistan and deteriorating economic condition of the state as well as total collapse of all institutions and departments of the Government due to corruption and mismanagement and as the personality of President itself has become a liability for the state and also for his party due to his previous record, there is need to replace him with a personality who can repair the damage caused by Mr. Zardari to the state and nation.
If we see around there is one personality of Dr. Fahmida Mirza, who was elected as the first female Speaker of the National Assembly of Pakistan on March 19, 2008 and is also the first female parliamentary speaker in the Muslim world, could be appointed as a replacement for Zardari as President of Pakistan, even at present she acts as President of Pakistan in the absence of President.
There will be following advantages for her appointment as president of Pakistan.
1) She has already experience of working as acting president of Pakistan, and also has great experience of Parliament as member of national assembly about three times.
2) She has a strong background in politics and belongs from a political family of very dedicated and famous politicians.
3) She is highly educated and well experienced, and is able to survive the post of Speaker national assembly even in the event of serious tussle between her husband and her political party.
4) Being a woman she will give a good and moderate image of Pakistan to world as compared to bad image created by Mr.Zardari.
5) She is highly respected by all the political parties in the national assembly.
6) Her appointment as President will be highly beneficial for Pakistan and for People of Province of Sindh and PPP, as Mr. Zardari have given a very bad image to Pakistan and for People of Province of Sindh and PPP and have become a black scar for them.
7) Fortunately her husband Mr. Zulfiqar Mirza have become a very strong figure in national and provincial politics due to his sacrifice in preventing and countering target killing in Karachi, in comparison to deceptive and wicked politics and policies of Mr. Zardari. More over personality of Dr.Fahmida is more graceful and sober even than Benazir Bhutto.
9) Her appointment as president can neutralized aggressive designs of other nations against Pakistan and internally can stabilized the state and institutions due to political unrest and distress in the different sections of society, and can prevent the total destruction of national political Party(PPP).
Written by: M.AKRAM
Salient features of the UPA’s war against terror
G K Pillai former Union Home Secretary ( all through under UPA) has come on record that Ishrat Jahan was a terrorist. That the LET website had shown her as a martyr, which they later removed. That the IB had given inputs to the Govt of Gujarat that she was a terrorist.
That in the Sohrabuddin case the Union Home Ministry had first filed an Affidavit that he was Terrorist. They subsequently withdrew it and filed a fresh affidavit that they had no information that he was Terrorist. We ask was any action taken against the officials who processed and filed the first Affidavit? Presuming that the second Affidavit was correct.
saxena upa was run by hindu terrorists they were fabricating terrorism to maintain
atmosphere condusive to their electoral politics.since nda gone and hindu terrorist arrest are under jail,now there is no attack on parliament.there is akhshayadham.no attack of samjhauta express.
sohrabuddin was used by modi and amit shah to extract money from bussines man.he was not terrorist at all.
this is lie that let site has showm her as martyr.submit any proof.they had no arms ,they could be arrested .why they were killed.question is this.
Whether all those killed were terrorists or had links or not, the basic fact is that the administration and the police have no right to take the law into their own hands and kill them or anyone else in fake encounters.
BTW, the antecedents of a person can only be established in a court of law and not by affidavits or utterances by the police or the administration. The judge(s) have to pronounce the verdict.
unfortunately for this congress govenment and party, the SIT “findings” have come at an inopportune time, when there is hardly anything to be gained as political mileage. The secular media hardly batted an eyelid on the “breaking news”.
The SIT was under great pressure to “deliver”, the earlier SIT having failed to “deliver”. Probably they had failed liver!
The congres cannot wish away Pillai or the IB inputs, which are scary.
I must appreciate your sentiments that yield a sensible mind who can wisely foresee serious repercussions that could follow. This would add nothing more then disappointment and unstable geo-political situation between the relationships of two subcontinental siblings. I for one would rather like to take a course where we should wait, watch and then proceed. The reason for that is the unstable state of Pakistan who is confronting both home grown as well as foreign aided militancy in its regions. Much of the influx has to come from its western side. So first it has to restore long oriented peace, law and order situation inside, functioning of institutions inside then enter into a phase of promises, diplomatic and economic channels with its neighbours (especially India).
“My view is that if it helps them more, perhaps they will realize the value of friendship and living peacefully with the neighbours.”
Sir, in return to your above quote I would like to say that ordinary Pakistani citizens like me would not like to turn down any handshake of peace and friendship offered from India and in return would always value it. But then again the interpretation can vary when it reaches in the hands of higher powers who dictate foreign policy and national security issues. I would restrict myself beyond that as I don’t represent that class.
Thank you for your optimistic approach, would look forward for your remarks.
The whole world knows Paksiatn duplicity, its breeding of worldwide jehadism, its repeated torpedoing of India’s peace initiatives etc. Wiorld also knows how india, with all its problems, has growhn into an important player through democracy, while pakustan is in abyss through corrupt military.
We should not spebnd a single minute on them until they have a military or civilian govt who can make decisions and abide by them.
Denuking of course is the ideal solution so tat we can forget about the trecherous place once and for all; however US would have done it if it was easy.
They have assisted Iran and orth Korea; they will give “dirty” bombs to JeT etc in their blind hatred of India.
It is a “fu..d up” country top to bottom — a Pakistani participant in a US meeting I recently attended told me 1) the news about India growth is a Western propaganda 2) Why would India let me travel out 3) it must be tough to live under the draconian Hindu rule of India.. The brainwash is complete; it will take decades to undo.
I do believe Zardari definitely wants to change the situation; but he is powerless. He does have a genuine interest in peace, livg together, mutual commerce etc.
this man has no mind he just support or abuse anybody.ur presidents are controlled by american intellengence agencies.they too are right.we have seen the end of kadhdhafi,what they are doing in syria.90%of people are with assad.the whole game is being played by shaprshooters and aljzeera tv.they are killing civilians and blaming on regime.americans europans .salfis, wahabis, zionists alqaeda, rich gulf rulers,israelis have joined hand to destroy a secular happy nation to achieve their energy interest . in libya they killed 150-200000 to remove
a secular dictactor.who has become legend of african history.word democracy is used to destroy and pauperize the nation whose rulers care about the interest of their country.
moreover people here dont know that nearly all pakistani want peace and trade with indiathey want to become like in india in the field of education ,bussines trade and agriculyure. .imran will repeat same language of zardari.peace with india is in interest of pakistan and india.in india except hindu zoinist everybody wants good relation with pakistan.their hate spewing has no taker in countryside as creator of wealth want peace to survive.
we are neighbour,we have to learn to live with each other,as neighbours cannot be changed.
when Rajeev said ‘better’, it is better for Pakistanis, not for Indians or India. For us, both are the same: to be watched carefully and never to lower the guard against.
In the interest of both India and Pakistan, a small, truncated XXXXSTAN is any time better and less dangerous than the present terrorist state of Pakistan.
manohar jee this is in response to his remark in the last blog when he said my dog is better than ur prophet mohammad.he is absolutely a mad person.abuse our national leaders in very bad language.
he needs treatment in lunatic centre alongwith vijay who never wrote any good blog.except naming others.
i am sorry and apolge for spoiling ur mood.what can i do i am also human.
Abuse gets one nowhere. Did it become a reality just because he said it? He only demonstrated his class (rather the lack of it) and so you did the same.
From now, both of you must temper your language, that is what I hope.
sorry this is against bstrd who has written this.in last blog he insulted my prophet.i will fk his mthr if i find.
he does this usually.
regarding pakistan,pakistan is not a soveriegn country.this is controlled by americans.their president has to do what they want.
so why unnessarily blame.
in india rss is their local agent they helping cia to unfold their plan.
Usman bhai welcome. Since everyone agrees that Pakistan is one of most dangerous country in world, it is natural to TRY and divide it, whole world will then breathe easy. This is not personal against you, if more like you, Fasi Zaka, Ansar Burneys etc were around_ then there wud be no problem.
India has chance, small chance to breakaway Balochstan, and shud capitalise on it. Even if we do not bresk it away, we can at least make Pakistani jehadis and ISI think twice in future. SO PLEASE USMAN, DONT TAKE IT PERSONAL, everyone wants it , US, europe, india, israel
sorry yr question as to why Zardari is better than Imran is childish, Zardari has NEVER been aggressive towards india. SIMPLE. Imran has. Looking forward to yr response
man bhai welcome. Since everyone agrees that Pakistan is one of most dangerous country in world,
RUBBISH AND WRONG.LIBYA WAS NOT DANGEROUS COUNTRY WHY IT IS DESTROYED SO THE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTA.
WORLD IS RULED BY MAFIA.WHO WANT THE CONTROL OF NATIONS WHERE THEY HAVE ECONOMIC INTEREST.THEY WANT TO SEPRATE KARACHI FROM PAKISTAN TO HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THE CITY SO THAT CENTRAL ASIAN OIL CAN BE TRANPORTED TO WORLD OVER.
since hindu terrorist are caught sent to jail there is no bomb blast.99%of of terrorist activitis are guided an controlled by oil mafia ,all over the world and in pakistan and afghanistan.
I’ve stated my response “why Zardari is better than Imran” in reply to Rajeev you can have a better look at the link i have provided.
Its a lengthy debate as why the world wants to divide Pakistan it has more geopolitical reasoning than terrorism. The events in past thirty years, the rise of China and the changing Arab world has inclined west to now look for more suitable resources in Central Asia. Divide and Rule has been the oldest ways to rule the world, nothing new. Would leave that for discussion ahead due to time constraints.
When the **** uses capitals in bold and says HINDOO FUNDOO, he is fake Ravi. When the **** uses brahmnst, zionst, jewsh and thows in deliberate spelling mistakes, he is RamAutar/Tajender/engrich/vermin/**** etc..
All are jihadi terrorists spewing anti-India, anti-Hindu garbage. Most reprehensible being 5000 dalit rapes every day in India by upper caste Hindus.
Some people here are advocating vivisection of Pakistan. How it is to be done – there is thundering silence from these advocates as to how this can be achieved.
Here are some suggestions.
1) Take a large map of Pakistan and a pair of scissors, ….
2) Take a large map of Pakistan and a marker pen, ….
3) Resurrect Sir Cyril Radcliffe and entrust the job to him.
4) Go to Wagah Border with a megaphone and tell them loud and clear – enough is enough, now divide your country into smaller parts.
What i believe is weak political infrastructure has paved way for military establishment to hijack parliament and dismentle the writ of constitution. Inwardly on numerous occasions weak and inapt politicians have invited this wrath. So only strong reforms in constitution and non-military institutions can grab the bull from its horns. This would then help in curbing and accountability of any process. Whether it will serve the purpose for others or not it surely will serve the purpose for Pakistan.
The question remains
1) How and who will grab the bull by its horns? or put it in another words – how to and who will put the genie back into the bottle?
Couple of blogs earlier, I had suggested that Pakistan needs a Mahatma Gandhi or a Nelson Mandela to set things right. A strong nationwide people’s movement can do it and for that you need a person like the above mentioned.
I wish i could be more expressive earlier. Thinking about one example in the past of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who became a public and a national symbol for people’s voice became victim of army. Now if i compare him with Nelson Mandela or Gandhi their movement was against an alien element (white apartheid in first case and British in second) which resulted as a mass movement and a counter force to tackle the oppression. Over here its a national institute (unlike an alien element), so that has to reckon a strong and disciplined institute (parliament, political infrastructure) as a contender. Aided that with any leadership would make the genie back in the bottle. Its the system that im pointing to not only a one man show. So i’ll reiterate what i have said earlier “So only strong reforms in constitution and non-military institutions can grab the bull from its horns”.
Hope that sums up the equation keeping in view its a long term oriented and lengthy process.
I have serious doubts on your opinion about Imran.
1. His position on Kashmir about India is the same as that of US over Afghanistan. What he says is: military occupation is no solution.
He has the most lenient take on India about Kashmir then any of the politicians on our side. He sure is vocal unlike others whereas Asif Ali Zardari has least knowledge about any foreign issue let alone India. His quietness on serious issues speaks more about him.
2. Out of all the politicians Imran has the most experience about India. Let alone be sports he has been invited numerously in India for humanitarian aspects and in return has invited some for his noble cause in Pakistan. So despite your so called supposition of anti-India, anti-Hindu the exchange of peace and friendship is more with Imran than any other politician.
Yes, Anna is not perfect. Name one person who is perfect.
I will still support him for his fight against corruption.
You are doing the same thnig as other congresswalas are doing.
Killing the messenger.
Agree. Nobody is perfect. To err is human (so I cannot name anyone who is perfect). But what Anna is doing in his village is pure Talibanisque dictatorship and surely not acceptable. It has nothing do with one’s imperfections.
Even Mahatma Gandhi was not a perfect human being, he had his warts, but he did not go around imposing his will, morals and lifestyle on others by force and violence.
By now you should realize as to why Anna is supporting the draconian Jan Lok Pal bill (*) – unfettered powers and answerable to none – a mirror image of his own self in his village. Democracy, individual rights, etc. be damned.
* We have to wait and see what Lokpal bill as passed by the Parliament will be like. The Team Anna is still insisting on their version be passed in toto.
Some reader elsewhere on the net has coined a new name for him
Talibanna Hazare.
If you consider that pointing out negatives of others is killing/shooting the messenger, so be it. BTW, this same things goes on and on on this blog too. When confronted with uncomfortable truths and facts – attempts to shoot the messenger.
“….but he did not go around imposing his will, morals and lifestyle on others by force and violence.”
This “ace debater” has some really twisted sense of history, perhaps congress style.
When Mahatma Gandhi slept naked between two naked girls, did he seek their willingness to or acceptance of his “plan” to practise “calibacy”?
When he forced inmates of his ashram in SA to clean their own shit, did he seek their acceptance of his scheme?
In both cases, the answer is NO. Mahatma is not used to the idea of common consent.
Even when he called off the country wide satyagraha post chauri chaura, he never consulted any of his colleagues. He was always a dictator, even though history teaches us that he was a loveable dictator.
Mr Vinod Sharma writes
“Pakistan is a land of conspiracies— imaginary and real. Much of what’s retailed by word of mouth or friendly media persons shows civilian rulers in poor light. The underlying message in the so-called “memogate” is that the men in Khaki could do no wrong, that they are the best defenders of Pakistan’s national interest.”
If that is the prevailing situation in Pakistan , does he not realize the futility of his prescription “Trust and Verify”.
There is only one prescription for India. Keep building your military might and the required part of our Economic growth has to be set aside for it.. If there is hostile action by any of our neigbours , and that threat does looms large over the country , the country shall have to look towards General V K Singh and not Montek Singh Ahluwalia. The most important determining factor for our foreign policy shall be India’s military might .
@praveen JI, Recently back from India .more on that later.The people of India beleive THEY ARE WITHOUT A PM FOR LAST THREE YEARS.
Indian Army is a white elephant , NEVER FOUGHT ANY WAR IN LAST 40YRS KILLED MORE INDIANS THAN WHAT THE PAK AND CHINKYS EVER MANAGED TO DO.
This Army sucks so much of money , yet nothing to show COMPARE WITH SRILANKAN ARMY.
Also this Memogate shows PAK ARMY has a vice like grip on Pakistan;s foreign policy SO NOT A GREAT DEAL WILL HAPPEN.
Also the differenece between Pakistan and India in social structure , economics,science IS SO WIDE it will breed jealousy .
So INDIA NEEDS TO SPEAK BLUNT. Hand over all terrorist , sign a FRIENDSHIP TREATY , REDUCE PAK ARMY,S SIZE BY HALF FOR PAKISTAN’S BENEFIT,INDIA MOVE MOST OF ITS ARMY TO BORDER WITH CHINA
@ 5cingulategyrus9
If we can have an understanding with Pakistan , what better than that , but it shall only be wishful thinking. In my opinion , India shall always require to develop it capabilities to defend itself.
why india has bad relationship with all its neighbours,from hindu nepal to budhdhist burma and lanka communist china and muslim bangladesh and pakistan.
internally also brhmnst are getting isolated everyday.
great sonia is the only hope for common indian.the way she is managing the affairs,god bless her and manmohan jee.
So INDIA NEEDS TO SPEAK BLUNT. Hand over all terrorist , sign a FRIENDSHIP TREATY , REDUCE PAK ARMY,S SIZE BY HALF FOR PAKISTAN’S BENEFIT,INDIA MOVE MOST OF ITS ARMY TO BORDER WITH CHINA
will india hand over advani to pakistan who ran away from karachi after plantingbomb in a public meeting after all his comrades were arrested.he came through boac to india in 1959.since then he is serving brhmnsm instead india.beng khtri sikh now kicked out by brhmnst.now passing life of living dead.
90%of pakistanis want pakistan to be like india.india is their role model .they want peace and bussines.i met few pakistani farmers who look towards india for agragarian reform and better price for their product.pak students wants colleges and universities like in indian punjab.
punjab idrivers of lahore pray for their marriage to vidya,balan or ktrina kaif.
PUNJABI BALWINDER wanted dr misra ,what he got dr shan.
maine chaand aur sitaroon ke tammana kee thee
mujhe ratton ke tanhayee ke siwa kutch na mila.
brhmnst hate spewing has no taker on either side of border.
The islamist party consolidation in egypt, renewed uprising/killings in Tahrir Square, Islamist radicals’ rise in Tunisia etc do not provide much hope for a Jefforsinian democracy in the Arab world. For all you know, Saudi Arabia may be funding all these Islamists.
Something can be done with Pakistan minus nukes. It seems even US is at wits end with them because they have nukes. A joint India-US-Israel-other countries effort to forcefully remove the nukes should eb undertaken. But it is going to be tough.
Pakistan state (whatever the “state” is), pakistan terrorists, and even some Pak politicians will use the uke against India. They openly talk about it – their political leaders (not the ones in power now), their opinion makers – I have yet to see an Indian political leader (of any party) openly advicating nuking Pak.
They openly talk about “water must flow, or blood will” regarding Bahlihar and other dams. Nawai-Waqt, a widely read paper there wanted pakistan to use uclear bombs to stop the dam projects. Abdur rehman Makki, the extremist leader, told a rally “we will let loose a river of blood if these dams block their water”..
For Pakistan, it is always bllood. Come to think of it blood, cockroach, etc is in the daily vocabulary of Pakistanis and other Muslim countries. Sadam Hussain always used to talk about killing cockroaches (enemies). Ahmanejad always uses the imagery of cockroaches, worms; Al queda and extremist leaders always talk in terms of cutting the head of the pig– obviously for a large section these imageries must be quite appealing.,
gopi from saddam to ghaddafi nobody ever go anywhere to attack somebody.it is cockroaches who attacked them under zoinists flag mandate.
word democracy is used to destroy a weak country.game always starts with snipers sharpshooters and deathsquades,like now in syria.from where even jews refuse to go isreal.all races and religions live like brothers,catholic,orthodox,coptics,phonecians ,druzes, armenians,sunnis,shias,even animists,but few snipers and a television station made the issue bigi will be surprised if rss goons are also there.they are in pakistan and afghanistan.
water issue is serious issue.should be settled through talks.war is big racket if brhmnst and jehadis join hands to push us into war.very easy for them.ahmadinajad never said that he will nuke israel.actually they have no nuke.it is israel america and ur satanic cousins are threatening with nuke attack.i am sure they will do it.but for what i dont understand.
there are some in world who take stand and some who sing vande matram and sell the nation.
Can Pakistan be trusted?
The question presupposes a homogeneity that is absent even in less fractured polity- with Pakistan, the assumption is not valid.
There are power groups like Army, ISI, political parties – who sometimes form a government with varying degrees of legitimacy. Are they singly or jointly, Pakistan?
What of the non-state actors? What of those who thought the killer of Salman Taseer was a national hero? What about those who did not dare attend his funeral, far less condemn the killing? Are they Pakistan?
What about those in the Pakistani media- who, at great risk to life, hold a mirror up to the horror that is Pakistan? Are they Pakistan?
Which one of the above “Pakistan”s is winning?
Next question, what can you do about it; assuming you are an Indian?
Build our own country and hope to put such a distance between us and them- in all socio-economic, miltitary and cultural areas- so that the world finds it much more in its self-interest to deal with us in preference to Pakistan.
As you know, nobody is knocking on Pakistan’s doors. Even china is tired by Pak’s duplicity.
The point you brought up – which Pakistan or who is Pakistan – is the crux.
Either they will kill each other and the last “pure” man will stand up. Or some hero (definitely not the old cricketeer) will arise — but Zia Haq has seen to it that they all have been wahabized. It is not in the Wahabi DNA to rise for the country.
Come to think of it, weren’t the seeds of its destruction sown on the day it was created. “Land of THE PURE”, such a definitive statement !
Gopi,
I am pessimistic too- of trying to engage Pakistan in the short term except as a purely defensive measure and also the world expects us to.
We need to continue to build our “muscle” in all spheres.
Ashish,
Please allow me to expand your canvas a bit further.
IMHO, Contours of our own conflict with Pakistan expand much beyond Pakistan, dragging China / US / IRAN OIL in the Afghan terrain. Kashmir – at this point – appears to be enjoying much lower lank in “siyasati” play. Not to say Kashmir is not a “problem” – just that at this point our own making/un-making is vastly influencing the situation there. Maybe, touritsts from rest of India are indeed much better ambassadors than the security forces.
Back to the expanded canvas….
If anything, the current “love is in the air” mood between Indian and Pakistani establishment does hint at settlement betweeen the two in – guess what – Afghanistan. Secondly, despite American provocations (I am essentially harping on Ms. Clinton’s public statements here) , Indian establishment appears to be inclining itself towards an negotiated settlement on contentious issues both with Chinese and Pakistani establishments. (For isntance, AFAIK – the last publicly made “Brahmaputra noises” made by chinese were way back in early 2010 , nothing much since then. Perhaps a very clear indicator of backdoor channel dimplomacy).
Secondly, this is about Pakistan itself. Past several years of its engagement in “war on terror” appears to have been much more disastrous for Pakistan. Actually to the point that “soverign undercurrents” withing Pak military establishment are gaining enough currency that their voices can no longer be ignored. In this context, US taking out OBL on Pakistani soil might actually be a blessing indisguise for Pakistan in that it has probably stirred the old debate on it participation in “war on terrorism”. Secondly, while the US aid for Pakistan that compensated its participation in “war on terror” did enrich military bureaucracy – there are sufficient hints emanating from Pakistani public media and other channels that the so said war has been terribly detrimental. As much so that it is leading to breakdown of “soverign finance” – perennially diverting the state’s resources from public welfare. The resulting poverty and alienation is most likely fuelling un-rest , perhaps in the form of jehad against Pakistani army.
So, what geve when Peace overtures were exchanged between India and Pakistan ? Most likely – several factors – including our own eagerness towards securing the Iranian oil supply. Some Chines, some Pakistani that don’t see India as central part of their problem .
Will it last ? Not sure, given the meddlesome CIA and chanciness of our similar endaeavours in the past.
Best I could wish in a not so perverted sense is – let us rather exchange oriental porn , spices etc. than mortar fire.
Nothing will change unless the systems that allow Pak military to preside over 80% of the GDP are dismantled — but dismantling will be extremely difficult unless there is a successful revolt of the people…all very unlikely.
About your recommendation. Isn’t that what is happening.
Isn’t that the source of much of resentment Pakistan feels. The two nations had a similar start and one has nearly become a new super power and a respected member of the world community, while Pakistan languishes in religious fundamentalist mire.
rajeev, engrich is the name of ur father.o.k.no need to search send ur mail i will send my photo.chq urself.
India should work on cutting off funding system for Pakistan.good idea.
dont forget 49%of our women are enemic.poverty level in india is more than subsahara region.30%of our population eats once in 2 days,qnother 40%dont know when they will eat next.all our cities are ful of slums has biggest brothels in the world.
so option of peace is better than war.only brhmnst will gain in war though hefty cuts in arms purchase.
path taken by sonia and manmohan jee is best.americans are sleeping in gardens and streets,could not control a very very small country iraq.now bankrupt.
On 26/11, all the 10 muslim terrorist were wearing Hindu threads to deceive investigating agency
26/11 was perpetuated by sacred brhmnst of indian intellegece with the help of cia mossad.
tell me why no enquiry commission was formed to investigate the whole affair.
why bjp was so much opposed to enquiry.
rajeev tell me why MK NARAYANAN, brhmn from palghat, our chief security advisor was removed from his post.after this episode.
why no indian was arrested.
like other terror attacks in india 26/11 was also carried out by them.with main objective to kill a socialist and honest brhmn KARKARE AND HIS TEAM.they were going to expose real terrorist of india in press confrence next day.
MK Narayanan is not a Barhmin– he is a Nair (some demographers saysay this group is Sudra, others say they are Kshatriya; but they have never been included in Brahmin “caste”; although Brahmin men marry Nair women)
in libya their satanic cousins are involve.sarkozy is son of a bulgerian jew.
engrich Reply: November 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
gopi, nairs of kerala comes in brhmn category.they are original harijans of kerala.they were shudras but latter taken into brhmn fold.as their mothers were not knowing real identity of their fathers.i am sure u know their history very well..mk nararyan comes in brahim fold not shudra.i am sure.he is very notorious person knew the exact date and place of gunmen arriving from pakistan.kept this to himself.and let 200 civilians die.
The washout of the first two days of the Winter session of Parliament did not escape the attention of Anna Hazare, who said today there should be “healthy” debates between Government and the Opposition.
Hazare, who has threatened to resume his agitation if the Lokpal Bill is not passed in the current session itself, also noted there are a lot of issues before Parliament.
“In the Parliament, healthy debates must happen between the Opposition and the Government,” he told reporters at his native village in Maharashtra.
“New debates and discussions give birth to new ideas. Thorough debates on issues must take place for a strong and effective democracy to function,” the 74-year-old anti-corruption crusader said.
My impressions of calcutta nov 2011(probably applies to rest of india)
Massive reduction in beggars, ? NREGA at work. Many used to be from NORTH BIHAR after the floods, nitish kumar must be doing a good job. The traffic signals EVERYWHERE has transformed the traffic flow , which is mind bogglingly smooth.
Metro has been expanded massively , with a stretch coming to airport. AIRPORT IS A BIG DISSAPPOINTMENT, but i beleive A new one is coming up.
CORRUPTION IS ALIVE AND KICKING WELL.The tie donning officer in HSBC bank was unbeleivably helpful.Then it transpired THERE IS NOTHING CALLED A FREE LUNCH, forced me to buy some investment schemes (read bribe by back door)
ALL THE BANKING PROCEEDURE ARE LIGHT YEARS BEHIND UK
NOW this for the THREE IDIOTS OF THIS BLOG , MISHRA, BALLS BHONDHU, AND VIJAY BUILDER MAFIA who misses no chance to lecture the west on morality.
The maid in the house i was putting up with was only 17yrs. She has been abandoned by her husband after impregnating the poor girl. She was apparently like a refugee from somalia , skin and bone , till rescued by the people i was putting up with.
NOW THE HUSBAND WANTS TO DIVORCE ,APPARENTLY HE HAS HIS NEXT WIFE LINED UP
Also college lecturerurs now earn 50 000 Rs /month , a school teacher gets 30 000.
Which is fine , BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POOR GIRL AND THEIR LOT , this is classical petit bourgoise .SKIMMIMG OFF THE CREAM
Vivisection of Pakistan – A Plan by B V Shenoy (CEO of Glamorous Vivisections)
1. Create a dream in the minds of Baloch’s, which centres around that life will be better outside Pakistan than it is in it. – 60% already done.
2. By long-term strategic infiltration – create a sense of resentment based on belief that Balochs are not getting there fair share of the country’s resources. 60% already done
3. Precipitate a large demonstration – supported by eSocialMedia. 10% done
4. Fund the main demonstrators so that it becomes a sustained agitation. A Bloch Anna Hazare could come in handy to give the movement a face. Work in progress.
5. Pakistani Army, will undoubtedly crack-down on the demonstrators and substantial casualties will take place. Dead Cert
6. Jaish-e-Mohamed, will take advantage of the mayhem and will kill a few Shia’s in Karachi. Dead Cert
7. Shia’s will retaliate and ask for help from Iran. Dead Cert
8. Iran will arm Baloch’s and India will also supply arms from its strategic position in Afghanistan. 50% Done
9. Pakistan Army, to divert the attention from this real problem, will put its army on alert and will blame India for meddling in its internal affair. Excuses ready and waiting.
10. China will create a diversion on India’s Eastern Border, to make it feel insecure. Dead Cert.
11. Patriotic songs will fill the airways and Religious Fundos will start making fiery speeches and the atmosphere in Pakistan will become more than normally anti-India. Probabale.
12. Pakistan Army will take over the Government of Pakistan and dismiss the civil administration. Dead Cert.
13. Pakistan will move a few divisions of soldiers to their Eastern Border, and Bloch’s will cease their protest because they will be asked to respond as patriots. Very likely
14. India will perceive the threat of war and would in retaliation put its Army in War Footing. Dead Cert.
15. U.S will ask for restraint. Not as vociferously as it used to, would ask UK to lead a secret Diplomatic mission. Very likely.
16. After a few weeks of diplomacy, both armies will retreat to peace positions. Dead Cert.
17. Bloch’s would be left wondering what hit them. Has happened before.
18. B V Shenoy will say, had Sardar Patel not died before Nehru, and had Indira Gandhi not returned the POWs etc. etc. and had Modi been the loh purush we would have further partitioned Pakistan. Dead Cert
19. Life would return to normal. What else.
20. RajeevS will change a few words of this plan and for the 250,000th time ask me to Shut Up, call me; Jihadi, Osam’s Wife, son of a Randi Mother who shagged a white man, Terrorist. I will still ignore him.
Pakistani elite has dumped the rest of its populace with nothing but the “book”. Zia Haq and his Mullahs capitalized on this; 80-90% of the people believe in the literal interpretation of the book done by illiterate Mullahs – hatred, killing, kauffr….This keeps them occupied.
India should not worry about “Indian Muslims’ feelings” in its policy towards Pakistan. It is time to turn the page over. Pakistan behaves foolishly and India behaves sheepishly. It is time for India to be mature, know its position and strength, and act accordingly. To me, that means, protect our borders, develop intelligence and involve appropriately, ignore them for all practical purposes… There may be some uproar from some quarters here; this will sort out the chaff
You have raised nice points. About India to be mature and knowing
its strength. The problem is that India does not realises its
strength and use it accordingly .
I see donkey DR SHAN is bak, with baby like suggestions, “ask Pak to hand over Dawood, ask it to halve its army…..” Does this moron think before spouting garbage like this ????
DR disprate SHAN, u are now 35 years old, still unmarried and vaary lonely??
Now to business. Ashish and Gopi, welcome back. USA under neocons like bush, condeleeza and rumsfeld were depressingly stupid, like DR Shan. But friends, new wind blows now, Hilary and Barack sound clever, 100 percent I am sure they are working hard to plan denuke Pakstan.
That ravi, mahesh, manohar laugh at these plans reflects their passive handwringing personalities, I am not criticising here. Big danger calls for clear minds and bold decisive plans. Gopi, you are right. DENUKING PAKISTAN MUST BE TOP PRIORITY OF ISRAEL, EU, USA, INDIA.
Mishraji, Dr Shah Alam, your wisdoms reqd here. Good blog
Some people here will go to any length to defend Pakistan..They need some real education on Balochistan freedom movement. Pl. watch this debate where Balochi students are airing their feeling. Their feelings can be compared with feeling of kashmiri muslims against India.
Mohan,
again, my question. Will the “real Pakistan” please stand up?
I think it is more difficult to deal with Pakistan than even North Korea- in the latter, you at least know who you are dealing with; howsoever irrational and unpredictable. With Pakistan, you are never sure.
ashish good article full of fact.u have to accept the fact that in muslimcountries ,it is islamic thoughts which will rule the muslim mind.
salman taseer has no following in pakistan.
americans should not force democracy in muslim countries.secular modern dictators like ghaddafi and mushsharaf can deliver better result and governance than mullahs.
madarssa can be finished only through free mass education to poors.will not cost much.we can also modernizemadarssas.european are against madarsas and pathshalas,or our ancient education system.because it is difficult to mentally enslave madarssa going student.
we should help pakistan and bangladesh to be like us in worldly matters.mi;itarily india cannot defeat either pakistan or bangladesh.we are ssing the end of america its ally in iraq afghanistan now in libya.hence it is better to be close with caution and make money through trade.
NATO’s Great Victory
Destroying Libya’s Welfare State
by DAN KOVALIK
November 23, 2011
The other day, I was listening to the voice of “liberal” radio, NPR, and was surprised to hear its bizarre, and yet quite candid, report on what it apparently views to be one of the more hideous aspects of the Gadhafi years – a modern welfare state which looked after working people.
Thus, without tongue in cheek, or any note of irony, NPR, in its November 14 report, entitled, “Libya’s Economy Faces New Tests After Gadhafi Era,” explained that the biggest impediment to the new economic era is the Libyan worker who was simply too coddled by Gaddafi.
NPR thus cited a 2007 book on the Libyan economy by authors Otman and Karlberg who called “the Libyan worker under Gadhafi ‘one of the most protected in the world,’” receiving job tenure, government subsidies of around $800 a month for the average Libyan household, and gasoline at a mere 60 cents a gallon. NPR, citing the same book, explained that workers now freed from such a tyrannical world by NATO bombs, have been left with a “’subsidy mentality’” and a “’job-for-life outlook which has ill-prepared Libyans for the more aggressive and cutthroat world of competition.’”
However, lucky for them, Libya’s new acting finance and oil chief, Ali Tarhouni, is resolved to turn this situation around by disciplining Libya’s workers through “smaller government and a larger and freer private sector.” NPR describes that, Tarhouni, being the realist that he is, “has no illusions that it will be an easy transition.” The report thus quotes Tarhouni who states that, “[t]he challenge here is that this is a welfare state,” with Libyan workers expecting too much from their government. I’m sure Tarhouni, with Western support, will show these workers a thing a two.
Of course, had NPR gone further, they could have also explained that, according to the statistics of the United Nations Development Programme, Libya, at the time of the NATO invasion, had the highest human development indicators (which measure levels of health, education and income) in all of Africa, with a life expectancy of 74.5; undernourishment of the population at under 5%; and adult literacy at over 88%. Libya was in fact ranked 53 in the world out of 169 comparable countries, ranking, for example, above Turkey, (post-Soviet) Russia, Brazil and Costa Rica in terms of the human development indicators.
For NATO, its corporate allies, and its media mouthpieces, such prosperity for workers simply will not do. We live in a world where austerity for the workers is the order of the day – for those in Libya, Greece, Italy, Spain, Great Britain and the U.S. as well. And those who stand in the way of such austerity measures, whether they be a nationalist government in Libya, Communists in Greece or Occupiers in the U.S., must be dealt with accordingly – by violent reaction.
Thankfully, once in a while, we have news sources such as NPR which will, albeit quite unwittingly and clumsily, tell us that this is indeed what our military and police actions are all about. You just have to be reading and listening between the lines to find out
It looks like Libya may turn out to be a success because they have to build institutions from scratch. The Egypt issue seems to be that the “institutions” under Mubarek survive, and they survive the old way. Hence the second round of protests at the Tahrir Square. The way they have allocated the electoral seats guarantee military to be supreme
americans entered philipines to liberate them.converted the whole nation into brothel.
when british came to india we were economic superpower.when they left
we were beggars.
parasitic european companies have been asked to rush libya and loot it
in the name of constructio.in 80s they looted entire wealth of middle east.
they brought khomeini to iran.
al qaida flags are flying on the goverment buildimgs of tripoli and benghazi.
islam will be used as an instrument of suppression and keep the peopl backward.
americans or europeans only loot whereevr they go.also they divide societies and spread hatred.
rss is local agent of these international divisive forces in india.
You are right when you say who will be in charge after 5 or ten years down the line. The problem is that our government does not have long term solution
to Pakistan problem. When I say cease all relations with Pakistan that does
not mean that its effect will be immidiate. India should use it clout and
force other countries also to stop dealing with terrorist Pakistan nation.
India should alway focus on terrorism arising from Pakistan soil when
speaking to other nations. Even in sports — like cricket — India should
force other nations to boycott Pakistan. England did the same with South Africa in late sixties. Inviting Gilani at Mohali and calling him man of peace
during ay Saarc meeting wont help .Ulitmate goal of India should be to make world
realise that Pakistan is a country which exports terrorism and it should
officaly be declared as a terrorist nation. It will take time but ultimate outcome will be good for us.
Just a simple answer from you. Just forget about congrees, BJP, Anna CAG etc.
I want your opinion on :
was this 2g allocation fair ? Did those companies who got these licences
made huge amout of money ? If yes, then was part of that money
shared with people like Raja and Kanimozi again if yes, were MMS, Mrs. Sonia Gandhi and PC aware of this ?
Certainly not. Not only unfair, but criminal. AFAIK, the case against A Raja is regarding his fiddling with the submission dates/times and not being transparent to all (and the corruption / bribes / etc. associated with it), and not on the amount that was charged.
The Prime Minister and others are also answerable (you can use the word guilty if you like) for not cancelling the allotment. The idiotic reason dished out was coalition compulsions – not acceptable. On this count, they should have taken a firm stand and if the government fell, so be it . Oh, many people, including the ones named by you, were certainly aware of it, if not earlier, but certainly soon after.
The last word on the ‘loss’ has not been said. There is the JPC, PAC and the Supreme Court. We have to wait and see.
Whatever the loss figure, I just hope that culprits are punished. Hopefull this will set a precdent and in future
politicians will be vary of doing such things.
Now that is a million dollar question. Hardly any politician has ever been convicted – Sukhram seems to an exception.
Our system of justice stinks. Only the small fries get convicted, the rich, the mighty and the powerful generally go scot free.
Anonymous
Any finaly, as it is my habit — I dont know whether it is good or bad –
I am again deviating from the subject, will Sachin score a century in this
match ?
There is a slight difference. Bradman had anounced his
retirement before the last inning he was playing in which he
only required 4 runs to reach that fantastic average of 100,
but unfortunately he was out at 0. Whereas Sachin has
not anounced his retirement.
In order to maintain the parallel with Bradman, he could do so..
Anyway, I am an old fogey- I still worship a certain SMG; his technical correctness against all sorts of bowling and on all sorts of surfaces. I remember SMG and Vengsarkar battling to save (unsuccessfully) a Ranji final against Delhi (Bedi and Goel) on a murderous 5th day Firozeshah Kotla pitch on an extremely hot afternoon.
Gurudev….
Anonymous Reply: November 24th, 2011 at 8:44 am
No doubt Gavaskar was a extremely good
player. One of my favourites .
Anonymous Reply: November 24th, 2011 at 8:56 am
To score this century Sachih has
Desire, Determinatation and Dedication
now only he has to Do it .
Anonymous Reply: November 24th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Mohan,
Sachin may have all the three D’s, no doubt important to a successful career, but if he doesn’t have the most important D (destiny), he will retire at 99.
Anonymous
The print edition of Hindustan Times dated 24-11-2011 has carried this news item.
`We were trained to hate India, but this is changing’
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We were trained to hate India in many ways. But our approach towards India has changed drastically: These were the words echoed by four Pakistani students from Lahore and Islamabad who are in India for a seminar organised by the sociology department of Mumbai University.
The four students -Sidra Tariq, 27, Saman Fayyaz, 21, Sitara Jabeen, 27, and Hina Anwar Ali, 28, accompanied by assistant professor Arshi Saleem Hashmi -flew down to Mumbai for the seminar titled New hope for a new Beginning.
Organised by Sisters Against Violent Extremism (SAVE) and was held at the university’s Kalina campus on Tuesday.
Apart from the students from Pakistan, several educationists and sociologists made presentations at the seminar.
These four students were selected for the programme because of their research work on Indo-Pak ties.
“When history was distorted the sense of nationalism very high, it was natural for a country like ours with a complex domestic, national and international politics to think about India in a certain way. But the perception has changed quite a lot,“ said Jabeen who is studying peace and conflict studies at the National Defence University in Islamabad and has visited India for the first time.
The students, who arrived in India on Monday, are on a fourday trip. They might visit 26/11 terror attack sites such as the Gateway of India and Taj Palace Hotel. Students also said that they understood what terrorism was. “We know terrorism and its impacts. We, too, are victims of the disease of terrorism.
The situation in our country is not any different from that of India,“ added Sitara.
Academicians felt that involving women and youth might bring in better dialogue between the two nations. Assistant professor, Arshi Saleem Hashmi, from the National Defence University said, “I often ask my students to think from the Indian perspective. It makes a lot of difference. Most of the students have different way of looking at the India and Pakistan.“
Mumbai University is now working on creating an annual exchange programme between both universities.
But while the students from Pakistan enjoyed everything about India and Indian hospitality, they were surprised by how little the Indian youth knew about Pakistan.
“In Pakistan, we get to know about India through television as we get many Indian channels but in India why is no Pakistani channel aired so that Indians learn about our culture?“ said Tariq, a research student at the Institute of Regional Studies in Islamabad.
I agree. See the other response, where I have stated it will take ages for such people to have the upper hand. Till then extremists and fundamentalists forces will hold sway.
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~~ AS WARNED ~~ Imran the danger is here! ~~ MY NEW WARNING ~~ our older generation of press and media people would build up this Jinnah ~~~
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A major reason for the arrival of Imran Khan as a serious candidate for the Pakistani PM’s post is the clout he carries in the Indian media and the tripe he gets away with.
When he was down and out– and in isolation after jemima ditched him for Hugh Grant(same guy arrested in US for fellatio in public places) and other boys– it was NDTV and India Today who rescued him by getting him inot the public eye again.
His seeming charm over Indian media makes the Pakistanis feel that here is a guy who will handle the Indians like kids– as he did in those Sharjah matches fixed by Dawood Ibrahim.
A few weeks back when I said that we have a new Jinnah at coming to the helm of Pakistan– some fo the bloggers here scoffed.
Well dont scoff now. Like Benazir who sweet talked our Press and media into saluting her and then launching the Kashmir insurgency, Imran Khan with his fake fondness of secularism of the Iqbal variety and real fondness of Taliban may try to rabble rouse passions in some disaffected Indian Muslims and Kashmiris. I hope the Indian Muslims are smart enough to see thru his Talibani game…
Dear four headed hijra, the Indian Muslims have seen thru your game fo pushing Pakshitstani agenda by donning various garbs. Shoeb’s posting just shows that. You would do more service by standing in ur toilet/dole que silently, rather than push in a jehadi agenda.
Remember UK has started deporting the Pakistani and Waziristan residents back home….
Dont want to see you on BBC, standing in a dole que in Muridke, outside the Taliban office !!!
Ha haha !!!! HAHAHAAHA
You made my evening!! Ab iss khushi mein jaam ki tayaari !!
Dear four headed hijra, you should join kindergarten in a “normal” NCERT or a Christain missionary school to detox you of all the poison injected in your feeble suicide bombing mind !!
HAHAHHA !
engrich Reply: November 25th, 2011 at 8:52 am
u are an stupid .i dont need ur advise.
Ravi Reply: November 24th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Vijay Kahppaonda.
आप ही पाद मारना और आप ही हँसना आप की पुरानी आदत है
Anonymous Reply: November 25th, 2011 at 7:31 am
@ Ravi autar Engrich
Dear four headed hijra… Ur language is getting stinky… as u have run out of ideas !!! Shame shame !!!
But u do make my day !! A failure in UK is coming up with all sorts of advise to Indians to tackle terror… which he supports like any duplicitious pak-shit-stani !! Wah WAH WAH !!
engrich Reply: November 24th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
kashmir problem is water problem,no pakistani leader will leave this.they will go to war if needed.it has peoples support.nothing to do with religion.
talibans are defending their tribal way of life against joint operation of americans and ****-elite class(mainly punjabi) .
in india muslims are mainly ghetto dweller ,they want goverment support and help to improve their life.till they hav hope they will not become terrorist.
indian tribals are doing the same under the banner of moism.they feel that their land propety and way of life is aendangered by indian urbans.
let is only active in kashmir.suicide bombing as a weapon was also used by lankan tamil tigers.suicide bombers are coming from every community ,subject to local conditions.
why u have no sympathy for the victim of drone attacks.ur heart weeps for qadiyanis not for victims of gujrat riot who are still lving
in camps and descriminated in every walk of life.
why this double standards.
nobody has to teach me.i am seeing all these in my surroundings.
l tribe all over world are under attack by zoinists,while in india by hindu zoinists.nobody from waziristan ever hurted any american
while they are killing 30-40 people daily.same their satanic cousins are doing in india tribe.
slogan that hinduism should not have castes is part of this game.
Anonymous
Change your tune to “jan gan man” from “paksitan ka matlab kya ”
Anna Hazare who practices Talibani methods to enforce his morals/lifestyle on others in his village and you suggest that let us not mock him. For this barbaric practice, he has been roundly condemned by all parties including the BJP and all right thinking people.
Now he comes up with such a reaction, never mind he tried to wriggle out of it later. Let me categorically say – shame on him. People call him Gandhian – what an irony.
It does not take long for a person to lose credibility.
Can we then conclude you approve of Anna Hazare’s methods and the person who slapped Sharad Pawar?
He may be a hero to you, not to me. The only aspect of his I admire was the development and watershed management he undertook in his village.
We do not need any self appointed guardians and moral policemen.
But you kept your mouth shut when Rahul’s henchmen attacked SP workers at Phulpur.
Anonymous Reply: November 25th, 2011 at 3:49 am
I have stopped responding to your posts, because any engagement with you degenerates into abusive responses from you., more often than not.
You may draw any conclusions on account of my non-responses to your posts, I do not give a damn.
Anonymous Reply: November 26th, 2011 at 3:40 am
I have stopped interacting with you, as you always more often than not degenerates the exchange in abuse and name calling. Do not waste your time.
You may draw your own conclusions for not answering responding, I do not give damn. Moreover, have a look at your self – on which events you choose or not choose to go ballistic.
Anonymous
Ashish
“But, I still maintain the only long term solution is to focus on strengthening ourselves- economically, socially, politically and militarily so that the Pakistanis start seeing the difference and the world sees overwhelming advantage to favour dealing with India rather than Pakistan”.
Which we have been doing for a long time plus continue to do so, irrespective of the situation across the border and the world prefers to deal with us. There is no doubt.
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To bring about a complete turnaround in the mindset ( after been brainwashed for decades) will take ages.
I think use of violence in a democracy is absolutely wrong. Many people are praising the person who slapped Pawar but I want to ask those people, how is this violence any different from-
1. Qadri killing Salman Taseer and pakistanis treating him like a hero.
2. Congress leaders Jitin Prasad and Pramod Tiwari kicking and slapping SP workers at phulpur.
Use of violence against fellow-countrymen is wrong.
zardari is very shrewd and intellegent man.memogate is a game to postpone forthcoming election.
moreover he has done nothing new ,nearly all **** president compromise sovereignity of their nation to remain in power.bhutoo wanted to gift gwadar port to americans.
jaswant jee is right in his analysis,shaking hands with america is kiss of death.
Ashish,
Thanks for responding. However, I must say , we are going to “spar” here.
Here is my pointwise response.
BTW, I have exercised personal liberty in choosing the points for responding that me feels are significant enough. If you feel they have been yanked out of context pease feel free to point out.
So, here we go….
“But, to me the forces that are really winning in Pakistan are the fundoos- they are expanding their thought influence in sets above. So, we have lawyers showering Salman Taseer’s killer with rose petals and no politician of any significance attending his funeral far less condemn the killings.”
Honestly, I doubt. In Pakistani Siyasat it is the military that enjoys out and out upper hand. That it finds itself in direct confrontation with fundoos on its own land is good enough rebuke against this point.
“But, I still maintain the only long term solution is to focus on strengthening ourselves- economically, socially, politically and militarily so that the Pakistanis start seeing the difference and the world sees overwhelming advantage to favour dealing with India rather than Pakistan.”
Let me guess here. The underpinning thought has been a comparison between us and Pakistan, right ? Honestly, tell me – when has such comparison been made in form of choice – except for cajoling both the colonial cousins when they got dangerously close in adversarial terms ?
Me thinks, let us just be us and get better and better from the point what we are currently. That if the Pakistanis aspire to be us is best left to them.
And one more thing, let us stay prepared for armed confrontation and yet try minimising the probability at every given opportunity.
Also, is there any real reason why us and Pakistanis cannot exchange oriental porn and spices ? Perhaps us blog commentators could use some experience from the Indian medical fraternity that is silently doing business with needy Pakistani citizens offering them some specialized cure.
“Responding specifically to Mahesh, while it is quite possible that India and Pakistan ruling elite might be seeing advantages now in working together and not fall prey to American designs, the basic question still remain- who is in charge and even, who will be in charge, 5 or even 10 years down the line. What will be their ideological bend of mind? Will they, as I fear be largely Madrassa brainwashed, Wahabi tutored? Then, it would not still matter whether the ruling elite is democratically elected or a military regime. I remain pessimistic. ”
Honestly, me thinks it is the Pakistani army that is still going to be in charge for quite some time. Let us live and adjust with it, hoping sometime in future there will be a civilan dominated polity. Where I differ is in your assessment about Pakistani military being “wahabised” . They are dictatorial – with a vice like grip on the polity but they are not fundoos beyond the token gestures and lip service.
Is army politically exploiting those who independenatly hold the Fundo ideology, or
A bit of both, in other words some people with Fundo ideology have joined the army and are exercising their influence from the inside, and conversly the army co-opts fundo’s to carry out its dirty work in a deniable way.
ravi
What I read is that there is a large number of fundos at the NCOlevel; and a considerable number at the officer corps level. The feudal landlord family members from the Punjab region used to dominate the army officer ranks pre Zia. The report is that the army is more “democratized” now; with many “landless” people both in the “jawan” side and junior officer ranks. So,t o a great extent, generals are hostages to the troops~!
The Pakistan Army is trying to reduce uniformed Islamists from its midst and increasingly relying more on the Civilian Islamists.
The issue always was and remains even now that Army is not in FULL control of the Civilian Islamist’s agenda, and their aim is to initially power share and then to take full control.
AshishC Reply: November 25th, 2011 at 7:21 am
In 10 years time, those at the junior officer level will be commanding brigades or platoons.. and in 20 years, you will have a GOC-in-C, who will be a fundoo.
Ravi Reply: November 25th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Ashish
That is possible but unlikely.
My reason for such optimism is that these radicals will be expunged from the Army before they reach Brigadier level.
That is already happening, and had started by Musharaf.
AshishC Reply: November 26th, 2011 at 12:30 am
That is already happening, and had been started by Musharaf.
That is what Musharraf would have all the Brits and Americans believe.
AshishC Reply: November 25th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Spar away
I think you are still thinking in terms of watertight compartments-
set A( intersection)Set B = Null. That is not true.
The secular nature of Army in India and Pakistan is a British legacy- it has been considerably diluted. The Pakistan Army grows out of the same society that is turning to a puritanical version of Islam in a big way.
This Islamization is not a passing phase- and it is not a fringe force. If it were, how was it that no one from any political party, government or army thought it fit to attend Salman Taseer’s funeral? How is it that no voice of condemnation was heard from the “establishment”?
Silence can turn into acquiescence and acquiescence can easily turn into support. Remember Germany under Hitler?
I am not ever suggesting an equivalence between India and Pakistan. Our development goals are independent of Pakistan as well. I am only suggesting that if we single-mindedly focus on our development in all spheres- and that could and perhaps would- lead to our outdistancing Pakistan by huge degrees- so much so, that an average Pakistani will start questioning if their system does indeed deliver.
We need not compare ourselves- but the Pakistanis always will, compare themselves against India. Like an average Malaysian compares their life with those across the Johor Straits
Also, if we are really able to outdistance Pakistan to even half the extent that US has outdistanced itself from Mexico, we get to dictate terms- in our dealings with other nations; especially when we have contentious issues on the table. Money talks, power talks- we can bring that to bear on third-parties to lean on Pakistan,
Finally, I agree the Pakistan Army will be in charge- 5 or even 10 years down the road. But, it will not be a secular Army, largely recruited from the landowning elite- it will be a wahabized, Madrassa educated force (see Shoeb’s post below).
ashish wwhat u have written about pak army is right ,but dont forget that purohit and his gang caught in bomb planting on various places are also from indian army.their aim was to convert india into brhmn rashtra based on manu lawsthey had training camps at 53 places..they are far more organized and determined in their aim than pak
generals..,who never called for islamization of pak army.99%of alqaida and islamic terrorists were killed and captured by them.
salman taseer or asif zardari are most hated personalities of pak society.they are almost social outcaste.
they are actually traitors.he was governor ,why he interferred in politics
just to please americans.pak army is very much divided on linguistic and
regional lines.pathan soldiers hate their punjabi officers.
Ashish,
For some reasons the HT’s IT has been behaving funny. It is indeed interesting to see my own comment removed and marked as blank Guest comment.
Will respond to you in a short while (perhaps in a day or so).
I can assure you that much as I hate disqus, I did not inject this worm that seems to be selectively gobbling up your posts..
Down with Disqus…
Anonymous Reply: November 25th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Ashish ,
We are looking at things differently. While you see progression of radicalised Pakistani society into its military establishment – I am still unable to find enough events supporting this argument. On the contrary, the jehadis appear to be increasingly targetting military establishment , something that I find is strong evidence in the favour of my argument.
Another thing – Shoeb’s link and the thrust of argument actually hints of reversal in trend within Pakistani military establishment making it more broad-based and perhaps even less “punjabi feudal” in the longer run.
Maybe, we may want to agree on dis-agreement.
p.s. : On your other points – will respond later. Had a hard work day and a equally hard “bitter” weekend.
Sharmaji,
A politician was slapped today . The anger and agitation writ large on the face of person performing this act was immensely instructive for those who are trying to hear the rumblings. We can go about our discussion on what is voilent and what is justified, but the average reaction among commoners has been – ” buss , itna hi ” ? Some comments – that vied for blooed and total elimination of the politician – in the comments section of this same newspaper carrying the news made even more spine chilling reading. These are the people who have access and means to use Internet. What worries me is the utter lack of credibility of political class combined with a lack of rational political movement chanelling this anger holds significant possibility for anarchy. Much of which could be fascist in nature.
To paraphrase my emotion – let me quote the protagonist of hindi movie “shool” , the protagonist being enacted by Manoj Vajpayee …..
“Kuch bhayankar ghat raha hai haya…..”
Not only physical violence, it is also violence of language – abuse and attempts to shoot the messenger, when there is no counter argument(s) to rebut the point(s) raised.
There is ample evidence of it on this blog itself day and in and day out.
Ravi and Manohar,
You are pre-supposing a discussion between the ruling class and those affected by its actions (or inactions). There is no discussion happening between the masses and established polity.
Sheer helplessness is what is manifesting itself. My only fear is – sans a progressive resistance – it will manifest itself in a perverted and reactionary way.
1) The picture is that the ruling class is seen not being receptive to the aspirations of the people. This has been made worse by series of scams telescoped in a shorter time frame. As a result, corrective action being taken by the present dispensation is being ignored. Every member of the ruling elite is considered corrupt to the core. The irony is that we elect them and would probably go and will vote them back to power the next time around.
The Licence-permit raj, thereby mai-baap sarkaar, did not yield the desired results until 80s, hence the development model of free and market economy has been adopted since early 90s and one can say it is still work-in-progress. However, vested interests mainly in the ruling elite on behalf of the other are not allowing the freedom this model requires – opposing every move and policy decision, which are meant to dismantle the barriers and remove the constraints of the previous model.
The two recent examples – opposing the hikes in petrol prices and opposition to 51% FDi in retail. In the re-telecast of the Walk The Talk, Rattan Tata said it is OK to have 100% FDI for manufacturing hats and diapers, but not in sectors that are more criticial (plus more capital intensive) to the economy.
If the vested interests (some opposing for the sake of opposing and some opposing as it fashionable to to do so in the ‘interest’ of the aam-aadmi) were to have their way, we would be reverting back to the bad old days of the Licence-permit raj. The reasons given that it would destroy our economy, blah, blah, blah.
Check the figures –
Indian economy – US$ 2 trillion,
Retail Sector US$ 450 billion.
FDI in retail – $ 15 – 20 billion (spread over 4 to 5 years).
The question will can US$ 20 billion treasure chest shake a sector of the size of US$ 450 billion. Logic and sound economics were never the strong points of the vested interests. No wonder, our country takes one step forward and two steps backward.
The earlier model led to series of subsidies and the people (mostly those who did not need them in the first place) seem to have got used to getting goods and services at a ‘discount’. Now they do not wish these freebies to go and also wish to benefit from the bonanzas that are supposed to flow from our present model. You cannot have the best of the both the worlds – that is a dichotomy. Hence the protests and deviant behavoiur.
2) Deviant behavoiur is seen in all societies, as there are crackpots whatever be the state of affairs. They and others are looking quick-fix solutions to the massive problem this country faces.
There was a very good opportunity to establish communication (apparently lacking) between the ruling class and the ruled, when Anna Hazare and his team began their movement against corruption. The sad fact is that they burnt the bridges by choosing to confront from the outset.
Anonymous
Mohan
As you know, he did not get his century of centuries. Better luck in the one-dayers.
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~~~ WHY ZARDARI SHOULD NOT BE UNDERATED ~~~~
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Yesterday night at a party a friend made a very apt observation. That we should not underate Zardari. Not question his intellect, despite the fake college degree.
Why?
“You see,” my friend said, “Zardari was able to handle a woman as formidable as Benazir with her lakh nakhras and also produce children….
you are writing all this trash because you are the guest of Vinod Sharma, who has been, rather inexplicably, too generous and tolerant to your rants about the 5000 rapes of dlait women by caste Hindus.
Your sniping and cribbing, besides spewing jihadi venom against Hindus and India, is too well known for repetition.
You are, as is also well known, a hanger on on the British system of doles. Be happy there rather than posting incessant jihadi nonsense.
To me, it seems. the Disqus programme is not working correctly.
No one seems to be removing them.
For example, a long post by Mahesh, to which Ashish had replied, has been removed just below here. Why would anyone remove it, there was nothing objectionable in it?
In such cases, the poster’s name has been replaced by the word Guest.
Perhaps, Vinodji will ask his IT department to look into it.
Ravi and Manohar,
You are pre-supposing a discussion between the ruling class and those affected by its actions (or inactions). There is no discussion happening between the masses and established polity.
Sheer helplessness is what is manifesting itself. My only fear is – sans a progressive resistance – it will manifest itself in a perverted and reactionary way.
So kishenji is dead
some politicians like CPI Dasgupta have said his killing was wrong, as have some human rights orgs
I am waiting to see if Arundati Roy protests
If she does then another sardarji will be in the news for slapping her.
MYSELF
In memory of the hundreds who died brutal deaths at hands of Maoist terrorists
Note I did not say just Maoists
ANYONE DISAGREE WITH ME, sunayi nahin diya, zaraa oonchaa boliye
prajee dont understand the problem.they are fighting for the their right on the land,they are living from thousands of years.goverment is talking of development ,avoiding this issue.same the pakistanis are doing with baloch.killing of a leader will not solve the problem.we have to be generous,they have point.on many occasion anurdhati roy is correct.
Balwinderji,
So, you are willing to slap “Arundati” Roy (BTW, she is Arundhati Roy and not “Arundati” Roy – next time feel free to self moderate your post drunk posts) for raising questions about nature of Kishenji’s killing.
Why so ? May I please request you with your reasoning , sir ? Oh, never mind if it is too much of an effort. What to do we are like that only sir. Us desis – they shoot their mouth first and think later.
BTW, the sardar that slapped Mr. Pawar had a strong enough reasoning – right or wrong his actions maybe . He even had guts to face the consequences. Sir, is that what you are willing to ? Face the consequences of slapping a person ? Litigations and all. Or just that you thought that the generally reactionary climate prevalent when you left this soil – still persists. So much so that it could carry your purported actions along.
But sir, let me tell you something. The law of the land has moved on. Slapping a person in public – even if it were somebody as tin-pot and in-consequential as me – is not so that easy sir. We have careerist lawyers here too , sir. And they too know a thing or two about constitutional rights, sir.
So, sir, careful and look before you step – some banana pills may be lying on the way sir.
p.s. for those with propensity for seriousness :
The execution of top leadership is “probably” going to see the Maoists splitting between two factions. One, that strives to push for militarist form of struggle , other that wants to go overground and more publicly propogandist.
Another possibility , the org. will lye low for some time and build to strike back. In either case, there is very less probability of Maoists resorting to terror attacks on civilian targets.
Ravi,
how did you manage to write a long post with me agreeing with it almost 90%?
Just two questions:
1. How do you know that the Islamisation in Pakistan is “swinging back”?
2. About your last sentence; isn’t that more of a wish rather than fact on the ground?
I am not afraid of agreeing with you, or even dis-agreeing. Either way I enjoy our discussions.
Most common Pakistani’s are no different than you and I. They are being manipulated and they have become wise to it.
About my last sentence, do you believe that Indian’s are Pakistan centered. Not really they are food centered with an occassional passing thought given to Pakistan.
It is the chattering classes who stand around discussing Pakistan, the rest, as you wish, focus on earning a crust and making India Mahan.
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The National Highways Authority of India (NHAI) announced yesterday that a new expressway would be built from Mumbai to Vadodara by 2015. The cost of the expressway is estimated at some Rs 7500 crores. The construction of this expressway will make the entire distance between the two mega cities of Mumbai and Ahmedabad covered by expressways. When built, the time taken to travel between these two cities will reduce to just five hours. If the Mumbai-Pune expressway is taken into account, there would be an expressway all the way from Pune to Ahmedabad. Looking into the future, when Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor gets completed, there would be an expressway from Delhi to Mumbai and onwards to Pune. No doubt, in a few years time, when Modi goes back for his election campaign, he will claim credit for the new expressway in his state. But then, what’s new about Modi claiming credit even when it’s not due!
When I wrote about the sham that Modi spins about his state’s development under his rule, many of his supporters argued that the roads in Gujarat were the best. Indeed they are! And (unfortunately for Modi) have always been! I remember living in Ahmedabad twenty years back and traveling often to Vadodara and sometimes to Surat (southwards from Ahmedabad) – the road journeys used to be delightful. I remember going on holidays to Udaipur (northwards) – again it used to be a fab driving experience. I remember going to the other side (westwards) – Rajkot – and the 200 kms long distance could be covered in a mere three hours even then. Gujarat has always had good highways – but all of them have been built by the Central government – not by the state. Even the smaller roads that fall under the state governments have always been good in Gujarat – the road between Ahmedabad and Mahudi being an example.
Many others commented on the record of the NDA with regard to construction of roads. It was indeed Vajpayee who started the Quadrilateral Highways project – linking the four major cities of Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata. Without doubt, that was an ambitious project. Again, Modi benefited as the highways went right through his state. For the record, the NDA government built about 8900 kms of national roadways in their six years of government. The UPA-1 built about 17000 kms and the UPA-2 will most likely build about 20000 kms by the time its tenure is over (going by the projects already awarded and likely to be awarded in the next few months). So unfortunately (again), the data does not bear out the claim made by many NDA supporters that the NDA built more roads than the UPA. Yes, their claim that Vajpayee started it all off is true.
Another damning report for Gujarat is the one of the economic data released recently by RBI. It’s actually the same data that I referenced when I wrote my post titled “Modi’s growth story is a sham…..” on Sept 17th – which said that Modi’s claims of a high growth record were all a sham. The RBI has put out stats (as reported in the TOI) which show that while the state GDP of Gujarat has increased by 79% in the last five years, the national average has also been about the same. So all the rubbish that Gujarat is growing faster than the national average is just that – rubbish. Also, the data shows that states like Bihar, Chhatisgarh, West Bengal, Uttarakhand and Punjab (all non-Congress states by the way) are doing much better than Gujarat and the national average. Also noteworthy is UP – given its high base of GDP. Of course, there are many Congress ruled states also – most notably the large states of Maharashtra and AP – which are doing better than the national average. If Modi supporters find the RBI data wonky, then god save them!
The Human Development Report released by the government yesterday also has some shockers in store for Gujarat. Its record on human development – especially malnutrition of young children – is quite sad. As per the report, 69.7% of children under five years of age are anaemic and 44.6% suffer from malnutrition. I am not quite sure why and how this has happened. I know for a fact that Gujarat is one of the most prosperous states – the poverty levels being much lower than national levels. Maybe it’s something to do with the food habits of Gujarati people – for many of whom the concept of “breakfast” is unfamiliar. Maybe it’s to do with the absence (or low numbers) of government sponsored mid-day meal programs etc which help the poor to get two square meals a day. One needs to look at this more closely.
One other possible reason could be that the foodgrains production of Gujarat is very low – given its size and its population. The total production of foodgrains is just 7.8 million tonnes per annum (even after achieving record growths during Modi’s tenure! I have always stated that Modi should rightfully take credit for this – but with a caveat that the low base would obviously lead to high growth rates). The population of Gujarat is about 6 crores. Compare this with UP – 47 million tonnes (population 3 times of Gujarat), Andhra (20 million tonnes – population 1/3rd more than Gujarat) and Punjab (27 million tonnes – population less than half of Gujarat). Gujarat is a leader in cotton production – and while that gives a lot of cash in the hands of the farmers – it doesn’t give foodgrains (most poor farmers and agricultural workers most consume what they produce before selling the rest to the market). One needs to see if this is indeed true.
The real truth is that Modi’s strategy is to claim credit for economic progress when it is not rightfully his. For roads, he has to thank the central government (whether NDA or UPA). For the economic prowess of the people, he must thank….the people! This is not to say that Modi is not a good CM – he is. But his claims that he is better than any that Gujarat has had or the other CMs in the rest of the country is rubbish. Also his record on non-economic matters (secular harmony most notably; human development; freedom of speech etc) is an entirely different matter
1) the writer is a “congressi”.
2) the RBI and every other institution is under the “direct control” of the Rajmata and Amul baby, so the quoted data is “cooked up”.
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~~~ 3 YEARS AFTER 26/11~~ We have lost all the advantages ~~~~
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If we look back at those defining days of 26/11/2008 to 29/11/2008, what have gained?
Possibly nothing!
HT’s Shishir Gupta has written an incisive blog that we have buried the whole thing without honour… and I agree with him. Why?
a) The main brain behind 26/11, Zakir Hussain Lakhvi still enjoys Pakistani and ISI hospitality in jail and communicates with his team thru his cellphone.
b) Out Yuvraj has linked the murderous assault and the terror attack with “right wing hindu” terrorism
c) Digvijay Singh and AR Antulay tried to link 26/11 as a RSS ki saazish and in a typical Congressi way tried to get Indian Muslim votes thru those statements.
d) India is now willing to walk more than half way to clasp Paksitani hands without getting the culprits of terror or getting any real assurance that further attacks won’t happen.
e) The softies of India now invoke the Cihna threat to tell us that we should bend before terrorattackas and forgive and forget…
So at the end of it… we are where we were before 26/11 and Pakistan probably still feels that it can get away with more.
Shishir Gupta is a new broom in the HT news room and he doesn’t represent the “official” view of HT, which is that MMS is doing the right thing by going even upto Wagah border to shake hands with his “peace loving” counterpart.
Editors like Vinod Sharma also agree, even if in private, that the real terrorists are the “right wing” Hindu terrorists, whom Fake Ravi and the asli wahabi, Ram Autar, are fighting on his blog on a daily basis.
26/11 is dead and gone, the dead are not even remembered. On the contrary, we are asked to believe that 26/11 happened because Hindu terrorists wanted to kill Hemant Karkare!
Shishir certainly very bold in the current scenario of the HT. I wish him the best…
I hope Vinod Sharmaji too checks the [ulse of the people, who find Paksitani claims to be hollow and their policy of rewarding he 26/11 perpetuators, so obvious…
I wish all of us put down our thoughts on where we have lost our way on our foreign policy front. This man Krishana is no match for Pranab Mukherjee who was handling the portfolio well during 26/11.
Are we better prepared in case another such attack takes place? God alone knows.
It seems Pakistan has got away with something it dare not do to another country in the world…
I agree that S M krishna is not the person to be the External Affairs Minister – unless he is just a front with the real policy makers in the background.
Do you have a person in mind from the present ruling dispensation?
Well I think Anand Sharma would be better than Krishana. Maybe a younger more articulate Scindia or even Kapil Sibal could argue our case internatinally and win more firends…
I think Scindia is too young for the post. I have a mixed opinion about Anand Sharma. Perhaps Sibal is the best bet. Shashi Tharoor is another one – poor chap was asked to leave by the ‘oldtimers-***- loyalists’ of the Congress – the ‘controversies’ were just excuses to get rid of ‘Johnny come lately’. What a waste of talent.
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@ Mahesh
I find ur arguement strange. As per your logic we should not take any action against any terrorist group becasue we should be scared of the violence they would perpetuate…
on the rare occasions he appers here, Mahesh Babu is mostly incoherent and when he is not, he puts forth strange logic, which only fake Ravi, the jihadi and his ISI colleague, Ram Autar find interesting and not strange.
Correction: his logic appeals to his congressie troll comrade too.
@Mahesh, I am dumbfounded that you thought it was worth your while , to respond to a CHALLA SIKH , variously called trolls , “you do not read , because you cannot read” etc.I would ignore such CLOWNS most likely entred UK at the back of a lory in DOVER.
You are absolutely right , ONE KISHENJI will be replaced by 100 KISHENJI unless the ROOT CAUSES are addressed.In fact patrick french in his book INDIA ,A HISTORY OF 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE, clearly reveals the nature of this movement.
The POOR have been genuinely attracted to the ideology, so unless their wretched life is taken care of , nothing will change.Mamata has taken SMALL STEPS.
Still eagerly awaiting your post on the ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE
Yours Sincerely Shan
We need to get to the root of all our problems. But it does’nt mean that we need to luv our kishenji’s teill then… Even when they bomb trains and kill security men and loot arms.
His house in the TV video has AC’s. So much for his luv for the poor.
@Vinoo59, new to this blog, you’l get to know each other.
The question is not about an INDIVIDUAL , it is about a MOVEMENT and HOW IT MANAGES TO ATTRACT THE POOR IN DROVES AND HOW INCREDIBLY WELL ORGANISED AND SOPHISTICATED ITS OPERATIONS ARE, managed to slaughter 1200 CRPF jawans like abhimanyu was killed in mahabharata epic.
The success is bengal in nabbing Kishenji is a testimony that IF THE POOR CAN BE WEANED OFF WITH GENUINE EFFORT TO UPLIFT THEM FROM THEIR MISERABLE STATE, MAOISM WILL WITHER DUE TO LACK OF FODDER
@Vinoo59, new to this blog, you’l get to know each other.
The question is not about an INDIVIDUAL , it is about a MOVEMENT and HOW IT MANAGES TO ATTRACT THE POOR IN DROVES AND HOW INCREDIBLY WELL ORGANISED AND SOPHISTICATED ITS OPERATIONS ARE, managed to slaughter 1200 CRPF jawans like abhimanyu was killed in mahabharata epic.
The success is bengal in nabbing Kishenji is a testimony that IF THE POOR CAN BE WEANED OFF WITH GENUINE EFFORT TO UPLIFT THEM FROM THEIR MISERABLE STATE, MAOISM WILL WITHER DUE TO LACK OF FODDER
yes, it is sad that in this country we have a full lobby of people (mostly publicity seekers) who would do anyting for terroists’ comfort, but would have little time for the ordinary citizens…
yes, it is sad that in this country we have a full lobby of people (mostly publicity seekers) who would do anyting for terroists’ comfort, but would have little time for the ordinary citizens…
u r trying to be sly. Your game is obvious. That you want to cast me in he mould of a so called Hindu Fundo which is ur mental obsession and no such reality exists in India.
I think you should get over your psychological hangups and engage in healthy debate.
Now he parades himself in his birthday cover, displaying his ISI-injected jihadi stuff for all to see. No more subterfuge, slyness, hidden agenda, sophistry etc for this wahabi fundoo.
Anonymous Reply: November 27th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Arundhati Roy and DigVijay will be tried for treason in any other country, including England.
Amul Baby is stupid; i believe he is an innocent bystander. His mother is intelligent; I do believe she is a believer in India unlike the Digvijays and Arundhatis.
Arundhati is full of cr— her mother Mary has done more for women’s and other causes, having filed and won a case on property rights of Syrian christian women in Kerala.
A self proclaimed “communist/interested person for the downtrodden”, Arundhati blasphemed EMS Nambudiripad, the first Marxist CM of Kerala, a beloved person of the leftists/labourers of Kerala. Nambudiripad donated all his (1000 plus acres) of land to the party. I do not remember reading anywhere that Arundhati donated the profits from her books to any cause.
The SCUM SUPREME IS YOU RAJiiv, who is licking FIRNIGI ARSE , for a few crumbs in the way of dollars , the same yanks who supported PAKISTAN to the hilt during bangladesh war , and as late as 1995 , when the US AMABASSADOR WARNED INDIA AGAINST ANY FOLLY OF CARRYING OUT HOT PURSUIT ACROSS THE BORDER to catch the kashmiri terrorist.
Then hailing from a backward state UP that you are , it is unreasonable to expect any trace of intellectual merit in your post. YOU SHOULD CONFINE YOURSELF TO NEO NAZI ARYAN SUPREMACIST WEBSITES
Krishna is the kind of person who is constantly into “jaate the Japan, pahunch gaye cheen” forgetfulness. He is in good company, though. Most of this UPA government are moving like headless chicken these days, except when fighting among themselves. But, if you look at his constantly bickering colleagues, he is a non-controversial “leader” (without any followers).
Shenoy Sahab;
I am sorry that I missed you in Bangalore by some 30 minutes. In India, catching flight is an exercise in itself. Next time, I hope, I will be able to meet you.
Vijay and Vinod, sorry, missed you guys too. Delhi has changed in many ways, it is not the same Delhi, which I left some time back and now, do not find it easy to negotiate by bus, scooter, rail or any mode of transportation. Taxis are some relief but very costly. Would write my impression about my visit in next few posts. Feel happy and sad simultaneously by the change I witnessed in India.
vinodjee this is in context of memogate chopper attack on pak soldiers and what is happening in libya and syria, ,
Truth is one and indivisible. When it comes to terrorism and Arabs or Muslims, the North American and European mass media portrayals enforces two distinct order of truth – one for the general public and one reserved for the Muslims. In all human affairs, facts are considered to reach the conclusion. End cannot be assumed to play with the facts, nor based on dogmas to explain the facts of human life. Under the guise of the Anti-Terrorist legislation, America, Britain and Canada have misused the logic of power to arrest, defame and punish people of Arabian and Islamic origin who had no linkage to the terrorism myth. The strategy dictates that selected groups should be detained and tortured indefinitely, to drain out their moral, intellectual and creative energies, making them incapable to survive socially or professionally credible citizens of the country. Consequently, the public will view them as crazy and undesirable people to be counted as numbers and digits in economic terms, but not dignified human beings
pakistanis are foolish ,why they are fighting their war.they have lost 40000 civilians & soldiers in this effort.now they have eaten shit in afghanistan,so they want to put blame on pakistan.
it is not only in afghanistan,it is everywhere, Karzai of Afghanistan, Maliki of Iraq and Zaradri (Pakistan) are the hired stooges and stage puppets, not the voices of the people in their nations. President Obama was elected in 2008 with reference to “Audacity of Hope” onward to a public promise: “Yes We Can.” But the contemporary history is telling loud and clear that Obama played joke with the mankind – raised false hope of change and when he assumed the office, he renegade his global vision and commitments to change and reform the Bush’s era wrongs and injustices to the interests of the people of the United States.
their war on terror is to destroy a country .War on Terrorism” has nothing to do with the alleged terrorists; it is a war to help Halliburton, Bectal and other corporations to capitalize their holds on the oil supplies and gas business. Defense Secretary Rumsfeld contracted Halliburton of Dick Cheney for 7 billion works to be done in Iraq before the invasion of March 2003. President Bush passed the Executive Order # 13303, giving complete immunity from criminal prosecution to the American oil companies dealing with the Iraqi oil management.belhaj an alqaida leader was leading anti-ghaddafi nato forces in libya.
We have now reached a stage where our extreme horrors of brutality and cruelty have exceeded our past records. We no longer have the rationale of moral righteousness of the earlier wars.
drone attacks from waziristan to somalia deliberately foment the murder of innocent people – your family, your friends, your lovers, you – in order to further their geopolitical ambitions.bye
Talking about killings – a young Muslim man was murdered here near Calicut (kerala). He was killed by another young Muslim. The police has handed over the case to CBI/NIA; the initial inquiry pointed to deep inter-Muslim (moderate/orthodox, Wahabi/”Indian” etc) rivalry/desire for eradication.
The blog singularly lacked reactionary twaddle since your self imposed exile.
Now that you are here the CERTIFICATE issuing habbit has resumed.
Of course it would be asking too much for you to explain as to what made Kishenji to be what he was. That would require consideration which is missing from your character.
What Mahesh and others are saying is that the killing of an individual does not always solve the problem. It just sets it back for a few months until another leader emerges.
The basic issue of poverty, usurpation of mineral rights, grabbing land at less than market value, disenfranchising the original inhabitants of the land, etc were the issues that gave birth to Kishenji.
He may be gone, but the issues still remain.
BTW Geneva Convention applies to STATES not to individuals, I would have thought a Double Doctor such as you would have known that.
that is why ashish said ,how much i know abt medicine u know abt history.
naxal movement has long history and many reasons.it is result of urban encrochment of their land and loot of their natural wealth by deshbhakts (rss man)like madhu koda.
all its founder,chanchal sarkar,jangal santhal and charu majumdar were murdered.but movement contiue ,now control 1/3 india.death of a man will not make any difference.till thr reasons are taken care of.
dr shan knows abt more can shed more light..
@ravi, this MISHRA GEEZER is not just a reactionary twaddle , he is more than that , a bramhin , as you know the advice of caution about the bramhins, IF YOU SEE A SNAKE AND A BRAMHIN (not in surname but in caste character like mishra) leave the snake alone , stone the bramhin.
Anything this plonker has posted carries the same intellectual merit as a david dhawan /govinda starrer film
People like Kishanji should be hunted down, killed mercilessly.
People would have been with the maoists if they targeted a ‘responsible” department
secretary, a minister, an MP/MLA; instead they were killing people on the lower
starta who really could not change/effect policy – like school teachers, police constables. They are foolish if they think the political or administrative class will care about the killings of constables or teachers…
Kill a minister; kill an MP. kill a secretary/collector, kill an IPS…then things may move in the right track.
People like Ravi and Mahesh — it is not the constables or teachers who took the adivasi lands or who are mining there–They are easy to target; most probably the adivasi leaders and people like Kishan must be getting money from these people.
Do these people want Mao”s China or current China?
Gopi,
Things are much more complex than you would want to imagine.
As a starter – let me throw you a question – if killing Minister , IPS or Secretary is so popular and going to solve problems – why won’t any group that resorts to militaristic resistance just plant a few bombs here and there ? Be it State or be it radical groups – basing the political strategy on armed actions has rarely ever yielded results. Perhaps – it is something about the gun (speaking here in a notional sense) that breeds illlusions of being “masters of universe”.
Thx !!! Most of us feel that our security men are uneccessarily hassled by publicity seekers and polliticians. Bloggers who believe in Maoism should first donate all their money to these maoists and follow their lovely diktats, ratherr than spend time lecturing us.
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Why are anti-socials and pakistani thugs so sad at death of a criminal ?
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Most extrimist, violent movements attract criminals and thugs. When the naxalite movement happened in Bengal in 1968-71 period, every thug and criminal in the town, overnight became a naxalite and engaged in murder and extortion. Similar thing happened with the Khalistani movement. The naxalite menance in certain parts of india has attracted a similar groups of thugs, goons, extortionists. Criminals who engaged in dacoity and robbery are now naxalites. Anti-social criminals often sympathize with such scums and anti-socials. That may explain why the much derided scums and pro-pak thugs on this blog are so angry at the death of criminal kishan.
A punjabi pundoo bramhin , brain is as refined as the sewage system of delhi , says something about the Naxalite movement in calcutta , that had me in stitches.
According to this DICK HEAD , **** brain , all the naxalites were hoodlums. Well he is punjabi , balle balle *** hole. This MORON should know the fountainhead of naxalite movement was PRESIDENCY COLLEGE AND COFFEE HOUSE , that produced luminaries such as nobel laureatte AMARTYA SEN, SATYEN BOSE , the fundamental particle BOSON named after him , Meghnad Saha of the famous THERMOIONIC EQUATION, a fellow of the ROYAL SOCIETY.
This is a tiny sample , the alumni are scattered all over the USA in all the prestigious institution.
The economics alumni litter every facet of INDIA ’s ECONOMIC DECISION MAKING BODIES, SOME NAMES , Bibek Debroy, Bimal Jalan(Ex governer RBI)
Arjun Sengupta, Isher Ahluwalia, PRANAB BARDHAN OF BERKLEY,
and the one thought to be even cleverer than Amartya Sen , SUKHOMOY CHAKRABORTI , another Sure nobel laureatte , only if he didn’t die at an early age.
The last but not the least ASHOK RUDRA , from whose writing in bengali I discovered the dismal economic picture of India.
Oh yes P C Mahalonobis , regarded as one of the three in the world who founded the science of statistics.
And JC Bose , who co invented Radio ,at the same time with Marconi.
One of his instruments is patented and used by US Dept of Agriculture(source, the book BRAMHO SAMAJ AND THE MAKING OF MODERN INDIA BYDAVID KOPF
Rag head , cabbage brain , balls bhondhu , here you have it, if you missed it
@Mahesh, I am dumbfounded that you thought it was worth your while , to respond to a CHALLA SIKH , variously called trolls , “you do not read , because you cannot read” etc.I would ignore such CLOWNS most likely entred UK at the back of a lory in DOVER.
You are absolutely right , ONE KISHENJI will be replaced by 100 KISHENJI unless the ROOT CAUSES are addressed.In fact patrick french in his book INDIA ,A HISTORY OF 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE, clearly reveals the nature of this movement.
The POOR have been genuinely attracted to the ideology, so unless their wretched life is taken care of , nothing will change.Mamata has taken SMALL STEPS.
Still eagerly awaiting your post on the ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE
Yours Sincerely Shan
Shan,
Will post you a couple of good links on the evolutionary aspects of language with Chomsky , Lieberman and others theses sometime next week. These make for immensely interesting readings.
Dr.Mishra and Vinoo,
Let me start with a basic poser – do you guys even read what is written , leave alone understand it ?
What is so wrong about somebody raising questions about encounters that it merits public slapping and ridicule ?
Do we realize – everytime State resorts to extra judicial killings, it loses an argument – and even more it loses credibility. Not to mention the tendency of State to “informally institutionalise” this practice. Furthermore, silencing those who raise questions expands the scope even further making the state fascist.
You may harbour great tolerance and comfort depending on who the recipient of bullet is – I don’t enjoy such subscription to conformity, though.
Another thing – and let me explicit about this – Notice here I haven’t even said anything about what Maoists do and what they don’t . The whole argument is about State’s actions.
you said, “everytime State resorts to extra judicial killings, it loses an argument – and even more it loses credibility.”
Please enlighten us simpletons, some of whom actually read your long, boring posts, what is the argument or ‘credibility’ we lost in Punjab, when we eliminated the terrorists, their family members and even sympathisers and financiers? Or were they not extra-judicial killings? Or what was good then is not good now?
And, how can the government of Mamta Di who ‘eliminated’ Krishnaji or the government of MMS which ‘eliminated’ Azad, both in, very likely, fake encounters be termed as fascist?
@rAVI, You wanted to know about my trip to calcutta. I was staying at new alipore and had to cross Durgapur bridge , where ashish used to stay before his departure to delhi.
I had mentioned few of my observations , here are some more. The taxi driver (90% are from Bihar) was speaking to his brother in MOTIHARI in Bihar on the mobile phone while driving. He said something which was telling. He said this mobile phone has drastically changed his life. Then he said AUR EK CHEEZ BAKI HAI , PADHAI (Education)
No i did not stay at five star hotel like the pandit mishra , and I politely declined the invitation to a sumptuous dinner at Bengal Club. Calcutta is only place in India where you have these clubs , a left over from the Raj.I had food in a eatery called DHABA near Ballygung Phari. IT WAS OUT OF THIS WORLD. I bought few saris , the one called Baluchori is jaw dropping. Scenes from mahabharata is weaved into the pallu and is absolutely life like , needs to be seen to be beleived. Half of calcutta is DIABETIC, despite that i brought over to UK my favourite Rasokadombo , which has an hard outer shell made of say dried kheer , enclosing a rasogolla kind of stuff , simply SUBLIME.
Now some more on Maoist movement. It is not only tribals . IN BIHAR IT WAS SC/ST who rose against the barbarity of the MISHRA AND HIS ILKS, the bhumihars. I had seen on Tv a footage where a Bihari guy was galvanising these BONE POOR HARIJANS against the landlord(courtsey BBC),
Your mention about mughal and british period is redundant to this discussion.
ADIVASIS AND SC/ST HAVE BEEN PUSHED OUT TO THE FRINGE BY THE BRAMHINICAL CASTE RIDDEN HINDU SOCIETY.
Please please please watch Satyajit Ray’s DAYS AND NIGHT IN THE FOREST(available from Love Films). It will give you a good idea about the state of SANTHALS , the abject prejudice against them , though a fair game when it comes to carnal matters.
1″Maoists are not gangsters, they are not common criminals”
Only, in between their petty thieving and stealing cows and goats, they also bomb trains, shoot a few dozens of policemen with AK 47’s every now and then and kidnap govenmnet officers, businessmen etc., for small ransoms of a few crores each.
2.”They are a proper political movement, which is left leaning,..”
In fact, they are so “left leaning” they are in danger of falling off the face of this earth, like their brethren have done everywhere else.
3. “I do not think they are anti-India”. Pakistanis think exactly opposite of what we Indians think, which is that Maoists are anti-India.
4.”….in other words are they seeking separation from India.”
Actually, they are not separatists like the Kashmiri Muslims, Maoists are more dangerous. They want to “possess” India and rule India as per the diktats of the Chinese.
5.”they must be recipient of some Chinese money.”
This is a koke, really, from the jihadi. Actually, this “some chinese money” is some small change in coins, nothing like what the Kashmiris are receiving from the Pakistanis and Wahabi Saudis.
these are no more ‘troubled times’ than the 80’s were, when the Khalistanis used to bomb, kill, maimand kidnap at will. It was a wise Narasimha Rao, who put his plan into action of ‘eliminating’ the Pak-funded and armed terrorists, by giving a free hand to the Punjab police to kill each and every captured Khalistani terrorist, putting the ‘take no prisoner’ policy to telling effect.
If that policy saved the country from having a new nation,’Khalistan’ as our neighbour, then the present ‘elimination’ of leaders like Krishnaji will also save India from becoming Maostan or Maoland.
Most of them (*) are opposing it for the sake of opposing it – without bothering to check the details or ignoring them. The primary reason being dished out is that it will ruin the Kirana / Nighbourhood shops. The fact is that 51% FDI in retail is restricted to cities/metros with population over 1 million (53 cities). The majority (80%) of these Kirana / Neighbourhood shops are located outside these 51 cities. So what ruin are we talking about. With advent of local hyper markets, the neighbourhood shops have adapted themselves and are still in the business. For example, on the street where I live there is one Super Market for the last 15 years and yet about 5 Kirana shops are doing their normal trade within a distance of half a kilometre, earlier there was only one.
The other reason being dished out is that these giant retailers will ruin the Indian market with cheap imports from countries like China. The fact cheap imports have been flooding our markets for ages now. So what is new?
Narendra Modi has welcomed the decision – in contrast to the BJP’s central leadership’s obstructionist stand.
The same fear was expressed with car industry, but it didn’t work that way , they build the supply chain all in india. ALSO INDIAN WAGES ARE STILL WAY BELOW THE WESTERN AVERAGE, so every reason WAL MART AND TESCO WILL SOURCE FROM INDIA.
Kirana stores will be there , because to build these HYPER STORES, you need MASSIVE space. Planning permission and other land consideration will push them to the fringe of the city , IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A HYPERMARKET IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
In 2007, Mayawati ordered the closure of Reliance Fresh stores in UP saying small traders were going to suffer. Small traders did not suffer elsewhere.
Game Changer – ” The Delhi Govt has taken the decision to allow FDI in retail to benefit Rahul Gandh’s Foreign Friends “- Mayawati
Game screwer – ‘ Why do UP vale go to Mahrashtra to beg ? ….There is an elephant sitting in Lucknow who is eating away all your money.”
Has Rahul Gandhi started ******** up the Congress Campaign in UP even before it takes off ?
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Rahul Gandhi has already screwed up the congress campaign. I will be surprised if they get even 30-35 seats. BJP also does not stand a chance.
Its a fight between Mayawati and SP. Most probably Mayawati will come
out winner again .
” We are not exercised by Naxal killings as much as those perpetrated by terrorists because the Maoists are operating largely in rural settings”.
How true. As I have said earlier, who wants to worry about the poor, hungry and the wretched (fighting a grim battle day in and day out just to survive) from some godforsaken hamlet in some dusty part of the country?
Elsewhere it has been mentioned that Naxalite movement consists mainly of criminals and anti-social elements. It is but natural that all such movements will attract such elements, past example – the Khalistani movement. The reason is obvious – their normal activities of murder, dacoity, etc. gets a cover of these movements and can evade the law more easily.
Your concluding question is a valid one. However, who will bell the cat to wake up the governments and make sure the answers are forthcoming?
Both sides are to be blamed. Government has not done and dont
want to do anything to uplift tribals. Maoists – who orignally were true believers of their movement, but now mostly taken over by thugs – have taken advantage of this situation. Big companies bribe politicians to get contracts in these areas and than pay protection money to maoists to get their work done. Who cares if some poor tribals and policemen are killed in this line of business?
Please do not be so dismissive or do you support such a state of affairs?
This is a very serious issue – the most important arm of the governance has been brought to halt, as a result there will be inertia in the executive branch and many important bills are held up, including the Lokpal bill.
I dont support this logjam, but this is what we are witnessing since quite some time, hence my comments.
Anonymous
Mohan,
the congressie trolls and their jihadi friends are worried that the congress is now in the grip of the opposition, with even its allies like the BSP and parivar members like Mamta Di on the warpath with it.
The fact is that the whole country is watching with horror the FDI induction drama MMS has so senselessly imposed on the hapless country.It is hardly surprising that evrybody sees the retail trade being gobbled up by the MNC’s and China, but the congress is blissfully unaware of the dangers.
It is really pathetic of the congress to try to sell the idea as the best thing for the country’s farmers.
Ravi,
a political ideology is an extremely useful cloak, is it not? More useful if you paint the cloak red; then you can even attract sympathisers like Ms Roy.
I have not quite finished with my “stray thoughts”. Here are a few more:
1. Maoists are fighting for the tribals’ welfare.
2. All Maoists are tribals.
3. All tribals are Maoists- well, they all all want development in the way the Maoists want.
4. If only we all lived like the tribals do; in a sort of bucolic, idyllic haze (Mahua, anyone?), all the world’s problems starting with greenhouse gases will get solved.
5. Left is always right; right is always wrong.
Not having a political ideology will make them murderous thugs. I do not believe that is what they are.
So, murderous thugs with a political ideology are less thuggish, less murderous and almost “bhadralok”? Why not expand the definition then? Say that murderous thugs who killed 3000 sikhs on the streets of Delhi were fine, upright young men- only driven by political ideology of the Congress Party? Or, the daily killings in West Bengal- TMC political thugs, sorry activists, killing CPM thugs, sorry again.. and vice versa are legitimate forms of political expressions? Or, before you accuse me of bias, extend the logic to Gujarat riots as well.
I am today truly enlightened. Now I know if I ever turned into a mass-murderer, I will have one strong corner of suport I could count on- so long as I had a political justification for my acts.
actually, the UPA has been reduced to a minority with the so senseless a confrontation the Amul Baby has launched against Mayawati.
Its floor management in the Lokasabha is in shambles, without any leader having a face to meet the opposition half way and to request for cooperation. They had earlier burnt their boats with the BJP, but now they are totally reduced to a friendless rump not knowing how to run the business of the government.
A VERY PATHETIC, UNENVIABLE SITUATION FOR A RULING PARTY THAT CAME TO POWER JUST TWO YEARS AGO WITH A “MANDATE”.
No, it is not a ego problem. The strategy is well known. Stall all proceedings and then go and tell the people look the ’sarkaar’ is ‘nikammi’ – they haven’t done an iota of work.
If the parliament is not allowed to function and looks it is not going to, let us see who Anna Hazare and his team blame, as the Lokpal bill also be one of the causalities?
Many things have been discussed here – the sad stae of red indians and aborigins, why Pak should be nurtured, mao uprisings etc…
1) Pakistan- We should totally ignore them letting them go through and complete the self destruction process. Many here has said the people are just like us, the issue is with the army. I think people are equally bad. May be they are brainiwashed; but then how can we ‘debrainwash” them.
We should focus on border security, intelligence gathering. Islamists there and here are major threat to us. Talking about Islamists, we all should be aware of our Govt’s inaility/lack of willingness to onfront these threats – the extremist organization PFI (reincarnation of SIMI) under the leadership of Aboobacker has opened offices in all states, their political wing SDPI contests elections in south and north india. All the people arrested in connection with the chopping off the professor’s hand here are PFI members. saudi money ahnd Salafi organization m oney flows to them (helping them open 300 plus offices all across in three months).
It is six months plus since the Mumbai jewelry dist explosion, three months since the Delhi high court explosion; we have not found out who did these, let alone prevent these types of attacks — i do agree prevention is too difficult and too expensive.
2) Mao violence – Huge funds are allocated for inclusive growth, laws about the use/abuse of land are there; but the corrupt politicians and offficials and businessmen use their muscles – Maoists should kill a couple of ministers, elected reps, or senior bureaucrats — things will change. Nothing will change by killing jawans and teachers — I belive people like Kishan are in the pockets of the mining lobby. Some encounters here, some there; mining cos can continue their extraction with nobody checking on ..
3) The real problem of the day is how the Euro and US recession will impact our growth. The rupee declined 7-10%, which is bound to further increase inflation. The decline is due to the demand for dollar that cannot be met by the normal european bank credit lines due to the banking and economic issues there.
Disqus threw me off–
The $300 plus billion foreign reserves is not much and eeded to service the 8% growth. The FDI in retail is a good move, at a minimum the opposition should allow it in the agricultural/food scctor 1) to eliminate the quantum wastage 2) to have a network of refrigerated storage/distribution centres 3) to reduce the price 4) to improve the lot of the producers etc. We have escaped the 2008-2010 recession; but we may not be able to accommodate the current downfall of european union and USa. Hell will break loose here if we go back to the nehru/indira days of 2-3% growth.
2) Mao violence – Huge funds are allocated for inclusive growth
they are not fighting for growth.they are fighting for right.can we give.can we stop encroachment of their land and stealing their natural wealth.
main question is this.
ravi ashish shan and gopi,good article by mr rajshekhar,
On our first visit to study the naxalite problem in Chattisgarh (Sept.23-25, 2006), we were able to gather lot of information from the series of meetings we had at Raipur with journalists, Dalit and Tribal leaders, and some NGOs.
For the first time the Prime Minister himself in his Aug.15 “Independence Day” speech admitted the naxalite problem as a “national problem” and equated it with “terrorism”. But we don’t agree with his assessment. Naxalism is also terrorism and the two should not be separated but fought with equal determination.
Since India’s ruling upper castes (15%) are mainly urban-based and “terrorism” is an urban problem, they are forcing the govt. to concentrate only on “terrorism” (read Muslims).
UPPER CASTE LEADERSHIP
However, not much importance is given to naxalism because the urban areas, where most upper castes live, are not affected. Urbanites are not interested in anything rural though naxalism is affecting a major portion of India and the Chattisgarh and AP states are the worst hit.
Both terrorism and naxalism are by-products of acute socio-cultural-economic deprivation which is affecting at least half the population of India. But the govt. is treating naxalism as a police problem.
The entire naxalite foot soldiers are our village-dwelling people — SC/ST/BCs, landless labourers or small farmers —who constitute over 65% of the country’s population and the worst deprived lot. The upper castes having scented the deep discontentment within the SC/ST/BCs exploited these innocents and taken over their leadership.
Both the Peoples War Group (PWG) and the Moist Communist Centre (MCC), now merged and renamed Maoist Party, are headed by Brahminical upper castes. But those fighting and falling dead facing police bullets are our people. That is why we are deeply worried.
The defeat of the BJP in the last election has made the upper castes realise that it is difficult to fool the oppressed SC/ST/BCs in the name of religion (Hindutva). But it is easier to exploit the SC/ST/BCs in the name of “class” (naxalism). Give a gun to the angry, deprived SC/ST/BC and make him kill the “class enemy”. And then the police, controlled by the same upper castes, are ready to rush and gun down the “naxalite killer”.
Naxalism has offered a short-cut to establish Hindutva — better than dividing people on religious basis by dubbing Muslims as terrorists.
ROLE OF TATAS & RUIAS
Already the Salwa Judum is fully infiltrated by the Hindu terrorist party RSS cadres. The Tatas and the Marwari Ruias of the Essar Group, interested in mining, are financing the Salwa Judum. Both the Maoists and the Salwa Judum cadres are tribals and they are often made to clash and kill each other. The industrialists are interested in getting Tribal lands vacated to start their mining work.
Chattisgarh, particularly its capital Raipur, has suddenly started buzzing with industrialists interested in exploiting its mining wealth. The politicians are kept pleased with bribe. Its diamond mine has attracted the world’s No.1 diamond magnates, the De Beers, a South African Jewish business house.
COURSE CHANGE FOR RSS-BJP
The RSS-BJP, which is an upper caste outfit, is exploiting the situation. But if it has to shift its focus on Salwa Judum naxalite activities, it will amount to a course change from religion (Hindutva) to “class struggle” which is totally strange to the double-distilled vaidiks controlling this Hindu terrorist party. But the RSS cadres are enthused. Big money is coming from big business and while mingling with innocent Tribals in remote forest areas they get the company of drinks and women. Since the Hindutva heroes do not attach any importance to ethics or morality as the end justifies the means, they are going at full speed.
We had a meeting with journalists at the Raipur Press Club and being mostly upper castes they complained about the naxalite violence and fully defended the role of Salwa Judum.
Already over a fifth of India is affected by this Manuwadi marxism of the naxalite brand. Almost the whole of Tribal-dominated Chattisgarh is affected. Right from Nepal down to Karnataka through Andhra Pradesh the Manuwadi Marxists are spreading their naxalite net.
We have nothing against the naxalite rank and file because they are all our own blood brothers as SC/ST/BCs. Our complaint is only against its upper caste leadership which is misleading them and making them easy victims of police bullets. The principal problem of India is caste system (Brahminism) resulting in socio-cultural-economic deprivation of SC/ST/BCs (65%), Muslim/Christian/Sikhs (20%). Instead of tackling this disease, the govt. is trying to cure the symptom (law and order problem). India is already sinking. The Manuwadi marxists will further push India to the bottom. We admit loopholes in the Salwa Judum which again treats it as a law and order problem. As days pass the rural India is sinking. If the existing police-problem-approach is not changed, the whole country will pass into the hands of Manuwadi marxists.
Only after i married a bengali brahmin girl I landed in Bengal and have been ENCOUNTERED by the Scientific Manusmriti apartheid Hegemony best known as Bengali Brahaminical Hegemony, I became Aware of Caste Identity, which I negelected and contested ALL MY LIFE.
engrich
ashish ,ravi and shan,
read Empires of the Indus by Alice Albinia, published by John Murray
accornding to him hinduism motherland is pakistan not india.interesting book.
Destroyed democracy in India
Removed equality for women
Prevented Philosophy and Science from developing.
Divided people from socializing.
Made life a misery to most of the population.
Not for the first time you have let your eloquence run away with your faculties for reason.
Let us stop this saffron vs red nonsense; the battle of the reds is against the state apparatus- sans any other qualifier.
Trust you to go off on a tangent on Mahua; while ignoring the substantive points. It is very fashionable to be a bleeding heart intellectual; but not so easy to tackle the hard issues of governnance- which includes both law and order, participative democracy, social security and reaching the fruits of development to all.
Mindless support? Ahem, mindless rants in opposition, anyone?
Will provide considered response later as for the next three days I am dole collecting in Essex, which requires 4 hrs of commuting on top of 9 hr standing in the dole queue.
I don’t allow anyone to touch my feet. That’s just the way I am. It does not mean I hate or disapprove of all those who I do not allow to touch my feet.
I have heard this story from someone who was present. After the SS – BJP came to power in 1995, Shiv Sainiks had gathered to hear Bal Thackeray announce the name of the CM. The rank and file loved Sudhir Joshi. When BT announced Manohar Joshi’s name, there was a stunned silence for an embarrassingly long moment. Only after it had passed did the half hearted applause begin.
Really poor grasp of the language. Really muddled thought. I used to think HT had some standards – is HT going all out to prove me wrong? Please only take on columnists who can think and write properly – after all you are a print and web media house.
If politicians do not involve themselves in rackets, scams etc; they will become saints, what with so many people voting for them. Blackmail has been perfected to the level of a very fine art by the politicians – so congress keeps blackmailing Mayawati, CB Naidu, Jagan Reddy, Lalu Yadav and hundreds of others in order to survive. Eventually they all survive – and have a great time of power and pelf. Politics is the art of the possible – there’s no haraam or halaal in it – until you murder an unreasonable amount of people. Even then, u can survive if u belong to the right community with enough pull.
Agree completely.Used to hold Veer in pretty high regard till I heard the Radia tapes.These guys will sell their souls to ‘dress up’ & give slant to stories to please their political/business benefactors.Veer Sanghvi is a journalist with zero credibility.
OMG!!!’kanishka’ is here!!Then ’scientific’, ‘magneto’,’sudhirb’,'The Wizard’, ‘adigatsby’,'Rajeev’, ‘aamadmi’ and assorted nut cases cannot be far behind. Run for your life!!!!
kanishka Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 5:18 am
!M member of chavanni brigade of HUM-HARA KHANGRACE
Anonymous Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Aren’t you guys given some basic induction classes before placing you in that dingy room with an old P.C ? Modi’s propaganda team has lost its standard ,look at the standard of trolls these days,pathetic ,lol.
It is not about dingy room with an old PC. It is the type of people, who volunteer to do the job and who willingly throw logic and reason to the winds.
Anonymous Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Vir Singhvi has also joined ‘Rani Ke Jhanse’ team.
Well the real one is always won by the mighty congress…we have seen that in 2004 and 2009…. The next one won’t be any different…the jokers will again warm up the opposition benches for another 5 yrs.
People…who are people? Not the roti sc@vengers of modi’s kitchen…..you can see the first round on 8 th may when congress decimates jokers in Karnataka…..here the majority doesn’t even know about the rat from guja rat and if he dares to come here feku will run way like a rat.
The Wizard Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 5:08 am
So you got paid from AgustaWestland deal. UPA has immaculate system of record keeping for money from corruption.
Raja Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 5:18 am
Retarded CONgeee snake! What your dirty venal CON partee did for 5 years of BJP rule in Karnataka? They planted that shameless p1g as fovernor, obstructed every move of the govt without ever allowing them to run smoothly, used the dirty rat Santhosh Hegde to break up the party and yet are counting on the corrupt Yeddy to rescue them. If your PAppu scoundrel and brainless bandicoot has it in him, why not he win elections for your sunken, anti-national partee in any of teh states? Even if your CON partee wins in Karnataka, which I doubt, it does not mean that your partee won it by any fair means! Your pappu maggort got thrashed in Amethi and Rai BAraili! Do you vermin even remember it?
chhaddilicker Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:08 am
when namo win in onestate its topmost democritic ,when cong wins the nation , it become unfair ! what a chaddi logic ?
krishnan Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 5:05 am
you meant Rani ka Johns, i presume
Anonymous Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Every action has a reaction is not even original.
KANISHKA Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
YELL LAO AKHBAR
PURANA BHI CHALEGA
Helicopter Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 4:00 am
do u honestly think that anyone who opposes the abuser modi is a Muslim? Ur a real ****** and u don’t even know their prayer…..a real sc@venger of modi.
The Magneto Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 5:24 am
Do not throw from AgustaWestland, Come to the ground. It is all MODI here.
@ Vish -The 100 plus likes that you have got have no credibility either,it is paid for by the propaganda wing of Narendra modi and that is what the article talks about. Vir singvi may have lost some credibility with the Radia tapes but that is something he can get back as he hasn’t committed anything that cant be forgiven ,Narendra modi on the other hand lost everything when his foot soldiers were found talking about their savagery in the tehelka tapes ,they said their Boss was very pleased with the Murder,Rape & Mayhem they indulged in
My comment was not about comparing vir sanghvi with modi, I was just stating a fact that vir got paid by corporates to publish their point of view in an opinion piece disguised as news. That is where the problem is. If it was just an opinion then one can take it with a pinch of salt, but to peddle it as news is where one crosses the line. Hope you get this time. If people like my comments, I don’t mind.
I would be very careful throwing stones while living in a glass house.
Vish ,why would you point out what Vir singvi did or did not do right under the article which talks about Modi and his army of trolls? Is Vir singhvi wrong on the online warriors of political parties ,especially those supporting modi, of indulging in abuses and attacking anyone who criticizes ,opposes or have a different point of view from theirs?
Are you suggesting that Vir has been paid to write this and thus the content of article has no credibility ? Do you go and apply this logic to all articles that Vir writes or only those in which Vir exposes your favorite man and his criminal deeds ?
Vish Reply: April 14th, 2013 at 7:33 am
Let me ask you: what does one need to be a journalist or someone running a news org- integrity, trust of people and being objective.
With Nira radia tapes episode, Vir lost all three basic requirements to be an objective journalist.
content of what he writes is secondary, am not questioning it here either. I just have a tough time believing anything he writes given he has lost all credibility and am just pointing it out ( anything in this sentence is important). I believe I have earned that right after all to air my views, my Indian constitution allows me that freedom.
I also read your post above complaining about some guy sitting in a dingy room with Old PC being an agent of BJP, how are you able to verify his identity just by his remarks..is there a prejudice set in you to identify such characters….just a thought. Seems to me you are not being objective.
I can give you my thoughts on present political setup, crony capitalism, vested interests, overall system if you would like to hear them….and again, am not sitting in a dingy room with an old PC.
Anand
Totally absurd…..another one to discredit modi and BJP of his achievements….they just cannot see anything related to BJP as positive….despite seeing congress eating the country like termite since 60 yrs and more so in last 10 yrs….shame on the blogger
Where is the honesty…..honesty is under their ch@ddi…..do not even mention about BJP honesty…..the scams they have made we don’t forget…the coffin scam is a disgrace to humanity…and they destroyed a state which was one of the best, Karnataka ….no one will forgive them…a bunch of losers desperadoes who are in dark tunnel for the last 10 yrs
Do you CON partee blind faggots even read news papers? BJP leaders were cleared of all charges in the so called non-scam related to coffins! Which end is your mouth located, you retarded baffoon?
Indian
Very nice Mr Sanghvi, you spend your “invaluable” time analysing BJP supporters English on Twitter. Bloody b^%$$£d.
well said, so vir started crying “mot-her”, “mot-her” and not “maa” when he was a baby? and still thinks Lord Macaulay has got his job for life! he he, what rubbish logic? what else do you call “Racism”?
A party that started the tradition of the lowest form of abuse with “maut ka saudagar” “yamraaj”; their own party spokesperson using the most juvenile phrases such as “feku”, a partyman (Amaresh Mishra) whose articles are filled with the lowest and vilest forms of abuse – and yet this Congress retainer Sanghvi seems to think the two sides are equal in either IQ or presence of low-lives. Mr Sanghvi- check out any social media site and it is the right-wing that clearly attracts the higher IQ supporters by any yardstick whatsoever. So really – this manipulative attempt at trying to put both sides on the same pedestal just does not work, I am afraid.
The Congress was slow on the social media because it had the mainstream media under its thumb. Smug with the control and influence it had through bribing rewarding and arm-twisting ..the BJP was left with no option but to take refuge in the social media. Taken aback .. by the success the Congress resorting to muzzling that voice by introducing section 66A. That having failed now raising an army of paid bhadde ke tattoos to counter the BJP. This again may not be of much help as bhadde ke tattoos can be no match for motivated volunteers who write out of conviction.
hahaha, completely wrong calculation by vir sangvi. even if we agree that there are few people from bjp it cell but i can assure the writer that the wave or tsunami u see are common indians, who are very agitated and angry at the system and congress party as a whole. congress and parties like SP,BSP have no social standing as far as urban youth are concern. congress leaders can have a twitter account or a account in facebook but i doubt their following. no one will follow them.
@aam admi, as hundreds of thousands of Indians, I never was a supporter of NM, but it is the years of constant snapping and denigrating him and subjecting innumerable court actions on him, , while totally overlooking and covering up the train burnings and over 350 Hindus, killed by the “victims of genocide” in the same riots made me sit up to take stock. Bal Thackeray termed it appropriately as “landey prem”. This version of secularism is fraudulent, no word on the crowning fact that this Congress Party should be renamed Corrupt Party officially, with our beloved Italian ex-maid (Queen Bee) becoming the 4th wealthiest politician in the world. This dalal has no interest to pursue that angle, and is wasting his energy in fiction that BJP has legions of “teams” working full time to create social media storms. Just on which planet do you live Mr Dalal?
@”Nishant”Dalal, why are you so upset!. i do understand, it certainly was not your parent’s training that made you become a “dalal”. It must have been agonizing to make the switch to becoming a “dalal”. But once in it, why bother about the rotten eggs/tomatoes/slippers on your face. after all you are the one smiling all the way to the bank. On the day you opted to become a”dalal” you should have carved out on stone “sticks and stone may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”.
chhaddilicker Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
so where were the agitated mass indian in recent himachalpradesh election ?great plateform of getting some consolation of lborn losers !! he..he..he
Mr Sanghvi, Your congress pant is showing off. It is usual for congressis like you to call BJP supporters as boffins and illiterate while people like you who are just brokers are better, What sophistry. Please go back to your desk and work for the queen bee in you hive.
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! this humble idea of aeroplane was
manufactured here in Gujarat ! : Feku Modi
It’s not frustration….ur frustrated after 10 llooooong years in the dark room….now there is no vajpayee to get votes….only an abuser throwing stones won’t get a single vote more than what u got last time.
What is “scintific” about you CONgies stooges? All that you can do is react to pro-Modi supporters that are really educated and progressive. You sit in a dark, dingy room thinking that you can counter us on the internet! All that you are doing is churn up some childish jokes like the one above! They look no different from the childish garble that pappu delivered at CII! ROTFLMAO! Was Pappu’s speech too written by one of you low IQed morons?
duggal
Lijjat Pappad & Feku Modi :
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. One day one illiterate rustic woman
came to me for some help. I told her I like Pappad and asked her if she
could prepare pappad for me. She said ” Le Jhat se “. What she meant
was that she could give me Pappad very quickly. But that phrase ” Le
Jhat se ” stuck to my mind…. I kept on repeating ” Le Jhat se “….” Le Jhat se “….” Le Jhat se “…”Le jhat”…..”Le jat”…”Lejat”……”Lijjat”…yes “”Lijjat” !!!!! What a brand name ! My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! I asked her to sell
Pappad under “Lijjat Pappad” brand ! My Brothers and Sisters and
Mothers !! Can you believe ? Today Lijjat Pappad has more than 600 crore
rupees turnover ! : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat, you must have seen
we have Rains at our will. How’s that possible ? We have a Google Map
enabled Cloud Energising System. Whichever spot we touch on this map,
the clouds get energised in that city and the rain occurs in less than
7.33 minutes. My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Let me also tell you
something, we have this system on a IPhone. Where ever I go I carry this
special IPhone so that I can create rain in Gujarat even while being in
Delhi : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat, even the water
flows in the opposite direction. While the rivers in other states flow
downstream to the sea, rivers in my Gujarat move up to Himalayas. My
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! The snow that you see on Himalayas is
because of the rivers of Gujarat : Feku Modi
@duggal, before going to such length in writing pigo’s muck you should have asked your self does my sh1t_E stink, then with spme grace PHU_cKed off.Gujarat is Mother India’s Golden Goose created by Modi singlehandedly
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! One day I was watching a cricket
match in a stadium. The stadium was full. But I thought it was not
enough. Rest of my Gujurat was deprived of such a great match. How to
help them enjoy such a great sport. I talked to my scientists and
engineers. They developed a new machine. We were all so excited ! Now
all my Gujurati brothers could watch a cricket match simultaneously at
home !! In a big opening ceremony, we released the machine and called it
– “TELEVISION”. My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Since then you are able
to watch IPL even at your home ! : Feku Modi
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copied from the net
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! While taking a morning walk one day, I
could not tolerate the stench of the Garbage. I did not know what to
do. I kept on thinking for many days. Then I came of with a BIG IDEA.
Suppose we collect all garbage and create COMPOST out of it, then it can
be used as a fertilizer ! My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Today
in Gujurat we have perfected the technology to process the garbage into
fertile compost ! : Feku Modi
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! I know you love flowers. I have been
thinking a lot about your pain not having a good flower in our country.
We have designed a new flower seed in our special lab at Ahmedabad. I
was very excited when I saw the first flower. My voice chocked, my
breath stopped seeing such a beautiful flower. I decided to give a name.
I called it ROSE. : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Everywhere in the world an orange is
an orange is an orange. But in my Gujarat an orange is more than the
oranges you have seen anywhere in the country. When you squeeze my
Orange, first it will give you the mango juice, then pine apple, then banana
juice and finally the orange juice. See Brothers and Sisters and Mothers !
My Gujarati oranges are so different! You will find such oranges only in Gujarat : Feku Modi
Ambushed and Victimized by tweet abusers, poor Mr. Sanghvi.. looks like people who were busy digging gold on others’ expense when questioned seem disturbed. You never were neither are credible with either your ‘Breaking news’ nor your articles, so please drag yourself to the disposable trash bin.
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! After long research my scientists in
my Gujarat have invented a plant seed that has immense medicinal value.
It’s going to change the face of India. It’s called “Neem” : Feku Modi
The problem with you low IQed CONgee morons is that you take anything to extreme! Whereas your pappu was bull dozed by his own retardnetardedness, you filthy toadies are coming to his rescue by inventing cheap jokes on Modi. Do you really think that puerile jokes of this kind will make you win the war on ligitimate edcuated internet users? ROTFLMAO!
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Chawanni for your comments from Rescue Pappu relief fund!
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! I know you love eating Dosa. Sada Dosa,
Masala Dosa, Paneer Dosa even now they also make Chowmein Dosa. Who taught these South Indians how to make Dosa ? We Gujarati did. Dosa is a cheap inspiration from my Gujarati Pudlas : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! You have heard of many Hindustani
Gharanas in Classical Music. Let me tell you proudly the source of all
these music, even Karnataki music is based on Gujurati Garba. : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat, you must have seen,
people dance Dandiya happily during Navratra. Our Mothers and Sisters
wear beautiful colourful dresses and dance to modern Dandiya music. You
will be happy to know that MY Gujarati Dandiya is the oldest CLASSICAL
dance of India. : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat, you must have seen,
all cars run 6.8″ above the ground. We have introduced the latest latest
Maglev Road Building Technology. Since there is no friction, there is
no wear and tear. That is why our roads in my Gujarat shine like pink
cheeks of our Mothers and Sisters : Feku Modi
You conceded through this article that you are not a selfless chaddiwalla, thereby proving yourself to be a mercenary congress supporter. Please pardon my naivety in believing that there many selfless volunteers twitting on social media, not necessarily favoring Modi or BJP, but writing what they feel is write. Their English may not measure to your level, but their integrity,love, honesty & patriotism is of Highest level. Where I sincerely doubt, you would ever be able to reach, because people like you are on an entirely different trip in life. And last, but not the least, I must proudly confess that I am one of those volunteers and am proud of that. There are many like me.And assure you & the congress that these Volunteers would contribute greatly in Congress party losing the Next Elections.
Vir Sanghvi your bias is so apparent that it seems you have learnt nothing form the Radia Tapes episode. Even people who were willing to give you a second chance now feel that your hands are so deep in commission flowing in from the Congress coffers that you will never reform.
Seems that the tattoo on your arm,” Main apni kalam commission ke liye baechta hoon,” will never be removed.
By the way remember that Mukesh Ambani for whom you got kickbacks during the Radia tapes selling editorials for cash scam, is now with Narendera Modi and so is Anil. Maybe you should think again for contiuous cash flow.
The bias in your article would even be apparent to the intellectually challenged Pappu. He would clap gleefully that another Naukar journalist is writing spin for me.
We the concerned Indians want a non dynastic party who has a leader who is a doer. You as a paid news journalist want a piece of cake for every article you write
We the patriotic Indians want good governance. You want us to become slaves to a moron becasue it suits you.
Your chaddi is probably sponsored by the Vadra loot money. So think whyu you wrote this ****/
Why is that whenever any one supports Modi, he/they are called Modi Bhakts, can’t we be ordinary Indians who are just fed up with the state of the country & want & demand a change. Look around u guys, the state of the country what has this Cong. Govt’s rule of so many years done to the country, and Mr. Sanghvi I think you have no moral authority to pen your thoughts on anything, since it would be a grave conflict of interest, after all how can u get paid & talk against the same master. Your & Barkha Dalal amongst others were sufficiently exposed in Radia tapes, so please keep these biased articles to urself.
By the way I am a normal Indian citizen, & not on any ones payroll.
Poor Sangvi, I can understand YOUR ANGER on “Internet Hindus”. They made you lose your job. They kept radiagate alive on twitter until you resigned from HT. Paid media and dalal journos never like Internet Hindus.
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Paid journos will even write that the Darpok Pappu is the best chance for India because once they have a duffer on the chair, these guys will make money writing spin for him.
Seems that the twitter comments Congressis are posting in Billions all over the net after Pappu retired scared of Modi are so UN FUNNY that it is only causing pity on the mentally challenged COngress strategy!
My god, how you hate twitter… obviously twitter single handedly destroyed your career after Radia Tapes no wonder!! We dont get fatwas to storm twitter, we’re not slaves to anyone.
Besides the paid Journalists… Can Vir Sanghiv name 10 people… just 10 people who want Rahul as PM and who beleive that Rahul and Vadra shoud get the crown as we all are supposed to be Naukars of these kings.
IT
IS STRANGE THAT NO ONE COULD PREVENT NITIN GADKARI FROM ESCAPING FROM TIHAR
JAIL WHERE HE WAS UNDERGOING LIFE TERM FOR NUMEROUS CORPORATE AS WELL AS HUMAN
RIGHTS VIOLATIONS ALONG WITH BANGARU LAXMAN ?
BOTH
EX-PRESIDENTS IN THE SAME ROOM OF TIHAR JAIL !! BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER
FLOCKING TOGETHER ! ACTUALLY THE BJP PROTEST IN DELHI AGAINST THE RAP..E OF
NIRBHAYA SHOULD HAVE BEEN ORGANISED OUT SIDE THE BJP H.Q. AS THE CULPRIT THEN WAS
INSIDE IT ! THE GENUINE DOUBT OF THE
PEOPLE IN THAT AREA IS THAT MR.GADKARI HAD BEEN LOCATED IN THATDELHI BUS DURING
THAT ODD HOURS .ESPECIALLY AS HE HAS A VERY BAD TRACK RECORD !
OF
COURSE WHAT IS THE STRATEGY OF NDA ALLIES/POTENTIAL ALLIES IN DEMANDING FOR
CHEMICAL CASTRATION OF THE RAPISTS IN THE DELHI CRIME WHEN THERE ARE CLINCHING
EVIDENCES AGAINST THE CULPRIT ? ESPECIALLY AS THE PAST PRESIDENT OF BJP IS IN
TIHAR JAIL FOR ANT-NATIONAL ACTIVITIES ? WE SHOULD APPLAUD THE SAGACITY OF THE
RSS WHO HAD PRESSURISED BJP TO AMEND THEIR CONSTITUTION AND GIVE SPECIAL
EXTENSION TO THE THEN PRESIDENT MR.GADKARI WHO IS A PROCLAIMED FRAUDSTER AND
WOMANISER , AT A TIME WHEN THE FORMER BJP PRESIDENT MR.BANGARU LAXMAN WAS
LANGUISHING IN ROOM NO : 1885 OF TIHAR JAIL FOR ANT-NATIONAL ACTIVITIES !
MR.GADKARI HAS REACHED THE SAME ROOM !!! HA ….. ACTUALLY THE PROTEST
AGAINST THE PERSECUTION OF NIRBHAYA
SHOULD HAVE BEEN ORGANISED OUTSIDE THE BJP H.Q. AS THE CULPRIT WAS
INSIDE IT ! THE GENUINE DOUBT OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA IS THAT MR.GADKARI HAD
BEEN LOCATED IN THAT BUS DURING THAT ODD HOURS .ESPECIALLY AS HE HAS A VERY BAD
TRACK RECORD !FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE EXPLOITS OF MR.GADKARI SEARCH IN
GOOGLE AND READ THIS NEWS FROM THE HINDU-THE NATIONAL NEWSPAPER WITH
CREDIBILITY – THE HINDU NAGPUR, November 13, 2011 NEWS = NATIONAL Investigation
into Nagpur girl’s death MEENA MENON+ HA…HA.. ONLY BJP EX-PRESIDENT
MR.GADKARI CAN !!!
Ha Ha Ha, the old propaganda by the MSM has already been exposed. Even if you guys say the truth, nobody is going to believe. If the congress and their supporters think that every person in this world is up for sale, then let them think that way.
ROFL !!! only u could write such a trashy piece and get away with it as journalism…. all of us who talk for Namo are not some pauid idiots, we are well educated Indians who wants a governing Government, not a looting scamming team called UPA… get that fact into ur head and then write… u might just begin to make sense!! till then better idea may be to retire that pen… so u dont continue to fall lower than the 6 feet your reputation is already under!!
very bad article mr sanghvi , world knows u well after NIRA RADIA phone tap reveletion . u are on congress payroll atleast write the every article before admitting it . biased and hollow article .
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat there is no Carbon
Dioxide in air. We made a special technology invention to convert all
Carbon in the air to Gold so that all Fashion conscious mothers in Gujarat
can wear FREE GOLD in their old age. : Feku Modi
It is quite intriguing to note that whenever someone even hints at Modi ‘not favourably/, scores of bloggers start attacking him and the preference of some, as regards their thought process and semantic insensibility,leave much to be desired!This fanatic attachment to a Leader would affect very badly the psyche of both in the long run!
BJP, of late, is having “second thoughts’” on elevation of Modi! The party fears that backing Modi might lead Congress to garner, without any effort, large-scale votes of Dalit and Minorities!Suppose, if BJP prefers NOT to declareModi as its PM candidate,what will happen to Modiand his bloggers?
What’s wrong with Sangh Parivar taking up a pro-Hindu campaign on the social media? Let them, for all our sake….considering the filth that is hurled at India and Hinduism on the net from the other side…. In the minimum, one must have a sense of shame before speaking from the pulpit….
Well they don’t realize heir foolishness…if they were intelligent they could have won at least in 2009… But their brain isn’t in the right place…come 2014 we can see congress again in power with more votes and seats ’cause of feku modi.
SHows how you CONgie retards delude yourselves in cheap humor! They sound like cheap sardarji jokes! Yikes! This is all you could muster? Man, what a bunch of losers!
This all big named journalists are paid promoters of ruling party………… they bargain their support………….. plz see their personal lives. They are more rich even getting less than 70,000 salary per months. From where all these luxury is coming from ????
so plz stop deviating the people’s mood of getting rid of this corrupt government………..
Here is what Mr. Sangvi says: “Thanks to journalistic stories and TV discussions, we now know that the
Sangh coordinates strategy with several hundred ‘volunteers’ and tells
them what the targets for the day are. This has been admitted to, on
television, by the head of the BJP’s Internet wing.”
I thought that the head of the BJP’s internet wing admitted reaching out and talking to these supporters, not discussing ‘targets’ with them.
Clarification please! There is a difference between addressing and interacting with supporters and implying that they are given targets, therefore implying that they might be ‘employed’. Giving sly connotations to matter of fact statements, Mr. Sanghvi, you are good at it, but not so good. Give an exact quote of what the head of the BJP’s internet wing said.
The other thing is about perception and prejudice – how the MSM perceive the SM wallas and how they are clearly prejudiced. Here is what is broadly, MR. Sanghvi’s opinion on rightwing Twitterati: “It is easy to identify them because most of them are semi-literate and the English is nearly always awkward or faulty.”
Really sir? Am I writing this post in chaste hindustani (or its cruder version), or is it in English? And can you point out where I have abused you? Or, are you not able to face facts / counter logic / handle sarcasm, which is why you wrote the above …
After the terrific drubbing he got from Modi, Pappu chose to retire. However his chamchas want him to be there as their rozi roti depends on his dumbness!
So let us all make a Pappu relief fund and all the dumbest pro Pappu comments will be donated free there!!
Even after purchasing the media,editors,journalists, congress could not improve their fortunes, how they expect a very limited social media to stop their downfall. This is a new toy for Pappu,Diggy etc. after 15 days they will lose interest. People like Sanjay Jha seems to be making some fat money in all this.
We know congress has taken to Internet to spread its propaganda. We can see it in your articles & many of your colleagues like Sujatha Anadi-am etc etc
Mr. Sanghvi, There are selfless chaddiwallahs. Many of them are toiling in the heat in Maharashtra in drought affected areas.Vir Sangvi should realize all knowledgeable and honourable men know who the brokers are. They also know who is squeaky clean. Cut the ****!
mr sanghvi- err mrs radia you gettin burned under your armpits? men like you have no standing in the eyes of the literate world,have lost it big time, dont cry baby- life are’nt give you two chances.
abe bhadwe!! Cr000rveer sanghvi!!!!! kamine!! khangress ke dalle, radia ke burr ke baaaal!! bhag yahaan se!! k2@ @r$e kisser!!!
tu journalist nahi, fonia madam ka burrjhaantist hai!!!!
This is a conspicuously and tastelessly indecent post. India is a democracy, and your political leanings are not objectionable. However, one takes exception to the language used by you. You are undermining the prospects of BJP by resorting to propaganda couched in vulgar language. People will conclude that Narendra Modi’s followers are crude, crass, uncouth and raunchy lot who will not hesitate to abuse their opponents to promote their leader. Inversely, people could get the impression that Narendra Modi’s chances could only be enhanced by cultivating vulgar propaganda. I think Narendra Modi will discourage such propaganda. Should he see this post he would cringe and pull away in disgust.
k2e! u and ur friends the sickulars can go and, …yeah, P H U C K themselves….:-P, do not read the posts in case u don’t like such posts. or else…as I said GO P H U C K urself!!!
Shocked at the abusive tone of your post. Please introspect, sir. Don’t you think shooting abuse at your adversaries may ultimately harm the prospect of Shri Narendra Modi? For people will conclude that Modi supporters are short on arguments and long on abuse. One would wish Shri Modi will read the vituperation and abuse deployed by his supporters to promote his cause. I think, Shri Modi believes in democratic debate, and he will urge his fans to refrain from besmirching his reputation. Modi champions need to note that their hero has high stakes in the race for PM, and he cannot let his admirers to tank his opportunity by their mindless vituperation of the democratic opposition that seeks to resist Modi brand of polarising politics.
Bystander
Vir,
Nice analysis. Though, a little of the desired stretch.
In recent days, other than the NaMo and RaGa we are hardly seeing anything being discussed.outside it. BJP’s single point agenda appears to be NaMo and Congress is routing for it – just it.
Trouble with this is after a point it stops being funny – and it has actually started to stop being funny – as the whole so called campaign devours space for every other issue. A terrible thing to happen to our political parties.
abe BEER shanghvi!!! chup ho ja!! itna BEER mat piya kar ki hosh ke naam pe bas CHEERS reh jain!!! hahahahahahahahhahahahahaha!! LOL!!!
aakhir apni @mma ki burr aur Fonia ki Burr me farak to karne laayak hosh me reh BEER-BAAJ sanghvi!!
abe mae bhi BEER pitta hun!!! par uska matlab yeh nahi ki FOnia madam ka dallagiri karke tu jitna bhi kamaata hai p00ra ka p00ra hi BEER pe udaa dega!!! abe mae bhi BEER pitta hun!! par pyaas Paani se hi bujhata hun!!! tu betiyaKaCh0d0 bund bhi apna BEER se hi dhota hoga BEER SANGHVI!!!!
paisa itna kamaata hai tu fonia ki dallagiri karke ki tu bhutnike BEER pee pee ke hi marega ekdin BEER SHANGHVI!!!!
“If you believe that the Twitter effort that led Feku to trend worldwide when Modi was speaking was spontaneous then you probably believe anything: that the moon is made of blue cheese or that Modi fasts for Ramzan each year.”….. Or Vir Sighvi is a unbiased journalist!
The whole world knows that this cheap abuser from Gujarat is a fake with little brain …the tragedy is that he thinks of Indians lower than his low IQ….this is the worst part….even an ordinary north Indian babu thinks that he owns the world lol
That is a sure sign that Modi is going to be the next prime minister of India, because all the congressi PMs have considered Indians as possessing, very low IQs. Unfortunately, this latest kid would be PM, Pappu, has still lower IQ.
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
Shenoy sahab… take theri congressi panites and lingeire off!
Raja Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 2:21 am
Where is your “high IQ” situated by the way? Somewhere below thw waist and between your scrawny legs? Here comes the “genius” to measure Modi’s IQ! If he were so dumb as your Pappu and his followers like you, he would not be managing a state so successfully for three terms! Get a life, you nameless, dikless loser!
SO how do you conclude, MrSherlock Homes? When chaddiless CON partee agents like you make it look so obvious and childish while commenting on the paid article of this corrupt crook himself!
In short, many people were using #feku for Rahul Gandhi also, and since it’s an ambiguous hashtag, it doesn’t prove anything.
#PappuCII on the other hand is unambiguous, and interestingly (or predictably), Vir Sanghvi hasn’t mentioned it.
…Please restrict yourself to writing about food and wine…..We are not fools…..People like you and your congress have taken the people for granted….imagine Mani Singhvi is back to being a Congress spokesperson……and you writing about politics…..Give us a break please.
Mr. Vir you talking about ethics…..? Its like KRK talking about Oscar scripts.. Comeon group up dear first tell the world about your role with Radia? I do agree 1+1 is not always 2 but still world knows who enjoys 5***** facilities in Congress Chinta Shivar. If I make your few pics public you will force to withdraw your posting? Deal?
Good one….feku modi and chaddiwalas hots the chart around the world…BJP has never become a laughing stock around the world…thanks to feku modi…congress can be sure of a convincing victory this time.
K2@s have no business commenting on original thinking.
go and KISS lulla of ARABS, that suits u.
Guest Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Excellent RSS wisdom. I am waiting for more such gems.
RSS Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
keep waiting, we won’t disspoint u k2e!!
we don’t refuse k2@s who have the desire to get humped by us.
RSS Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
*correction= DISAPPOINT
Guest Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
I knew – you guys never disappoint when it comes to abusive behaviour. That is all you guys were taught.
RSS Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
NO, u got it wrong again, WE WERE TAUGHT the following verses of SECULAR QURAN, since We in RSS have decided to understand the ENEMY=K2@s, before WE STRIKE…..
PR00F(and it does NOT NEED NO CONTEXTS):–
Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya) = لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَأَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْدُونِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍإِلَّاأَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَإِلَىاللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ = “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that
hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.”
Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Puslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.” (This verse justifies lying/acting/deception/ denial and even abuse to PIslam and Prophet by a Puslim if need be, in case that Puslim is living in Non_muslim MAJORITY LAND)!
“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are
ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29 (Secular concept)
“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible &
Torah=Xians & Jews] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6
AL-QURAN: Chapter 4(An-Nisa: “the women”). Verse 56:
Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.
“He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not
be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.” Quran 3:85 (Secular concept…LOL)
AL-QURAN: Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”,
Verse 30: “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christianssay: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; theyimitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how
they are turned away!”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not
be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to
us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your
friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51 (Muslims love XIans/Jewslol!!)
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HERE IS ONE OF THE BEST SECULAR VERSES of HADITH
According to Muhammad, written in Hadith, marriage of the kuffar is annulled once the women are captured. Any Kafir female captured in battle can be R A P E D !!!!!!
SBukhari 59:459(Hadith)= Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri said, “We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa {holy war with the prophet} of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab Pagans. We desired the women and we did coitus interruptus {withdrawing before ejaculation – to avoid pregnancy for better ransom}. So we asked Allah’s Apostle about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist.”
(Muhammad essentially stated that there was no need to withdraw while r a p i n g the captives because birth was dependent on destiny not copulation. Therefore, according to Muhammad, marriage of the kuffar is annulled once the
women are captured. Any Kafir female captured in battle can be r a p e d.)============================
RSS Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
abe k2e!! badi jaldi haityaar daal diye tune, hain be?? ,
kitthe gaya bhutnike!!???
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha
If the BJP guys are called chaddiwalas… the congressis are Panty – wallas!
Wow, Modi’s cultist followers congregating in this blog’s comment
section, abusing everyone who writes against Modi and these guys are
doing all this a democratic setup. Do these guys really believe in
democracy? Don’t they know that just as they can be allowed to support
Modi in every way, there are others who are against him also have that same
right to oppose and write against him?
Now I dread the day he achieves his dream of becoming the PM of India. The way his followers behave now with anyone who are against him, the day he gets elected, those who oppose him might get badly beaten up by his cultist followers.
no no, Modi and his supporters do not believe in democracy, thats why modi was not elected 3 times by junta of Gujarat, but Modi came to power 3 times by doing military coup in Gujarat.
Modi and BJP were the ones who suspended Democracy and invoked EMERGENCY in India in 1975. yeah right…
Modi and BJP wiped-out Kashmiri Pundits from Kashmir valley and they also finished off Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Xians, Jews, Parsees, etc from pakistan, bangladesh, north kerala, parts of Assam-Dhubri, Parts of West Bengal-Murshidabad, Malda, Deganga, NaliaKhali, Dinajpur, etc, Parts of Maharastra-Beed, Malegaon, Parts of AP-Adilabad etc, Parts of Karnataka-Bhatkal, Bidar, Gulbarga, etc, Parts of Bihar-Katihar, Kishanganj, etc, Parts of Uttar Pradesh-Amroha, Rampur, Bareilly, Azamgarh, Deoband, etc etc, Parts of Rajasthan(near Border), etc….Afghanistan, Iran, from Bosnia to Turkey, from Chechnya to Azerbaijan, From Libya to Sudan, from Somalia to Mali, from Burkina Faso to Egypt, from Algeria to Tanzania, from Sierra Leone to Morocco, from Turkmenistan to Uzbekistan, to Kazakhstan, Xinjiang(china) to Indonesia, From Arabian Peninsula to Palestine, Syria to Iraq, Jordan to Lebanon, from Indonesia to North Nigeria, North Kenya to Malaysia, from Brunei to SOuth Phillippines etc.
Only Puslims and sharia and Quran, hadith and Pedophile P00Pet MohMAD believed/believe in true Democracy, we can see the shining examples of Democracy through out the Puslim world, like Libya, Egypt, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Algeria, Somalia, Afghanistan etc etc……..
following are some verses which prove the DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES inherent in PISLAM=
PR00F(and it does NOT NEED NO CONTEXTS):–
Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya) = لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَأَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْدُونِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍإِلَّاأَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَإِلَىاللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ = “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.”
Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Puslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.” (This verse justifies
lying/acting/deception/denial and even abuse to PIslam and Prophet by a Puslim if need be, in case that Puslim is living in Non_muslim MAJORITY LAND)!
“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29
(Secular concept)
“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible &Torah=Xians & Jews] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6
AL-QURAN: Chapter 4(An-Nisa: “the women”). Verse 56:
Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.
“He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.”
Quran 3:85 (Secular concept…LOL)
AL-QURAN: Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”,
Verse 30: “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51 (Muslims love
XIans/Jewslol!!)
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yeah!! how right u are!! k2e!!!
hahahahahahahahahahahahaa!!!! hehe hoho aaaha!!!
ya, I know U r one BIG ABUSIVE $ H I T !!! nice confession k2e!!!
Guest Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
Your sanskaars are showing.
THE GUEST Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
ya, they are showing my middle finger to u!!! , r u blind????
Anonymous Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
They don’t have any sanskaars at all. They are paid “volunteers” of BJP just earning their daily bread.
P00Pet MohMAD speaking Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
yaya, they don’t have any sanskars, all the SANSKARS only I=P00Pet MohMAD had.
following are some of the demos of my SANSKARS..
- I used to lead a robber gang by day, and used to be a business man by night.
-I married an OLD widow when He was a Young Lad, (LADY was my BO$$ at work), in order to INHERIT HER RICHES and BECOME RICH BY SHORT-CUT.
-married the 6 yr old daughter of his best friend ABU BAKARCH0D=AISHA(after getting her engagement with a young boy JUBAIR, cancelled), when I was 52 yrs
old, used to ejaculate on her thighs till she became 9 yrs old, and I became 55 yrs old, and then used to Hump that Girl Child till I died.
-I married my own daughter-in-law (Zainab bint Jahsh) after getting herdivorced from my own adopted son, and declared her to be the mother of her ex-husband(his adopted son).
-I killed the whole families(brothers, uncle, father, husband etc) of 2 young Jewish girls(one was 17 yrs old-Safiyya Bint Huyayy, another below 30-Zaynab Bint Khuzayma) with my own hands, r a p e d those girls that very night, and forcibly married them a few days later, when I was more than 55 years old,
-I was a debauched P00Pet who allowed u k2@s to marry only 4 women at a time, and myself married more than 10 women,
-I killed(beheaded) 500 unarmed Jews in a single day with my own hands and boasted about it in the Hadith
-I called all Non_muslim, Non-Xian, Non-Jew people as IDOLATORS, and yet asked K2@s to Keep a P U $ $ Y(VA GI NA) shaped BlackStone(Aswad) inside PI$LAM’s MOST HOLY MOSQUE, the MASJID-AL-HARAM in Kaaba, MECCA, and asked you to Ki$$ it, and asked u to do NAMAAZ facing that Blackstone containing Mosque,
no matter wherever on the planet u might be, because I told u that stone was a gift from ALLAH. (as if all other stones on the planet are gifts from SATAN??? hahahaha LOL)
NOW, DO ME A FAVOUR!!! NUKE MY GRAVE!!!
Anonymous Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
It seems you have one track mind or you have been brainwashed so much that your brain doesn’t function properly. Just because we oppose you and your brainwashed tribe doesn’t make us Muslims.
HINDU SAMURAI Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
It seems you have one track mind or you have been brainwashed so much in MAD-rassa that your brain doesn’t function properly. Just because we oppose you and your brainwashed tribe doesn’t mean that the verses of ur unholy books Quran/hadith are secular and it also does not mean that all Hindus will be f00led by ur taqqiya’s last weapon=deny the fact the ur a PUSLIM. , nice try k2e!! but sadly, it didn’t work.
Anonymous Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Hindu Samurai, night shift kar raha hai kya? Ek baj gaya, jaake soja bache, nahi to mai tuzhe pitne aayega.
HINDU SAMURAI Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
pitne aayega!! hahahahahahahah!!!
aaana b e h e n ke L a u d e! k2e!!
aate waqt apne janaaze ke kapde bhi leta aayio!!
kyunki bhutnike tu wapas to jaega nahin, jaegi teri body.
GUEST Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
ya, we can see from the verses of ur quran, hadith, what a big pile of abusive $ h i tty PooP ur unholy arabian books are!!!
KANISHKA
I have no idea if the claims about RAHUL’S LIFE AND INTELLUCT are accurate but there is something worrying about a campaign that stoops so low.
When a journalist of the stature of Vir Sanghvi uses the word ‘Chaddiwallas’ for a humongous section of Proven – Patriotic – Nationalists, I think he has gone into gutters. 2. If English-speaking ability is the only criteria for literacy, I would feel more proud by being a son the motherland where English is NOT the mother-tongue, even though I am a -semi-literate- or even illiterate for this journo. 3. Congress stoops ‘low’ is everyone’s knowledge, but you – Mr. Sanghvi – have stooped much below their lowest level by writing such a biased article. 4. BTW do you use a Chaddi Mr. Sanghvi – or don’t you??
No, the Coward, like many Khangraci, uses a DIAPER (affordable with lootmaar money) which gets soiled every time he sees the name of MODI in the news media, elcetronic or press. Now imagine how many he needs.
These Khangracies have developed a habit of sniffing the bu!ts of others. This is where they come to the realization about chaddis worn by others. When they get high with chaddi-gas entering their cranuim, they get motivated to indulge in more bhrashtachar, atyaachaar, asadachar in Indian society.
no no, Modi and his supporters do not believe in democracy, thats why modi was not elected 3 times by junta of Gujarat, but Modi came to power 3 times by doing military coup in Gujarat.
Modi and BJP were the ones who suspended Democracy and invoked EMERGENCY in India in 1975. yeah right…
Modi and BJP wiped-out Kashmiri Pundits from Kashmir valley and they also finished off Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Xians, Jews, Parsees, etc from pakistan, bangladesh, north kerala, parts of Assam-Dhubri, Parts of West Bengal-Murshidabad, Malda, Deganga, NaliaKhali, Dinajpur, etc, Parts of Maharastra-Beed, Malegaon, Parts of AP-Adilabad etc, Parts of Karnataka-Bhatkal, Bidar, Gulbarga, etc, Parts of Bihar-Katihar, Kishanganj, etc, Parts of Uttar Pradesh-Amroha, Rampur, Bareilly, Azamgarh, Deoband, etc etc, Parts of Rajasthan(near Border), etc….Afghanistan, Iran, from Bosnia to Turkey, from Chechnya to Azerbaijan, From Libya to Sudan, from Somalia to Mali, from Burkina Faso to Egypt, from Algeria to Tanzania, from Sierra Leone to Morocco, from Turkmenistan to Uzbekistan, to Kazakhstan, Xinjiang(china) to Indonesia, From Arabian Peninsula to Palestine, Syria to Iraq, Jordan to Lebanon, from Indonesia to North Nigeria, North Kenya to Malaysia, from Brunei to SOuth Phillippines etc.
Only Puslims and sharia and Quran, hadith and Pedophile P00Pet MohMAD believed/believe in true Democracy, we can see the shining examples of Democracy through out the Puslim world, like Libya, Egypt, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Algeria, Somalia, Afghanistan etc etc……..
following are some verses which prove the DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES inherent in PISLAM=
PR00F(and it does NOT NEED NO CONTEXTS):–
Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya) = لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَأَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْدُونِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍإِلَّاأَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَإِلَىاللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ = “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.”
Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Puslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.” (This verse justifies
lying/acting/deception/denial and even abuse to PIslam and Prophet by a Puslim if need be, in case that Puslim is living in Non_muslim MAJORITY LAND)!
“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29
(Secular concept)
“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible &Torah=Xians & Jews] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6
AL-QURAN: Chapter 4(An-Nisa: “the women”). Verse 56:
Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.
“He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.”
Quran 3:85 (Secular concept…LOL)
AL-QURAN: Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”,
Verse 30: “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51 (Muslims love
XIans/Jewslol!!)
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BEER SHANGHVI!! U R A TRUE 10 RUNPATH PAID DEMOCRAT BUT A DEMOCRATIC KHANGRESSI DALLA NEVERTHELESS!!!!
hahahahahahahahahahahahaa!!!! hehe hoho aaaha!!!
He himself is posting like a troll calling name for hindus. He is probably a jain. He should ask himself what would have happened to Jains if muslims were majority in India.
THE DARK KNIGHT Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
no, the ICING on the cake is that UR the product of one such VOMITING acts of Mine, that I did many many years ago, nice to see u all grown up, but u could have done without washing DISHES and cleaning RAOUL BABA’s DIAPERS at 10 RUNPATH.
U could have called me, I would have made some phonecalls and u would have got a job at SHAHI IMAM BIKHARI’s Brothel near JAMA PUSJID, DELHI!! hahahahahahaha !!!
waise tune mere bete, chaddi pehenna kyun band kar diya, chaddi pehna kar, without chaddi, taking panga with us is dangerous for u, ur b@ll$ might DROP off!!!!
Guest Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
So much like RSS wisdom. Anything more ?
THE GUEST Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
no, i guess thats enough for jehadi kiddos like u. now u can
P H U C K off!!!
Guest Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
No no, wait. Bhaag kyon rahaa hai ?you haven’t bottomed out yet.
RSS Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
abe!!! k2e!!!! bhaage the tere coward Hindu ancestors PUSLIMs ke dar se, aur bhaag bhaag ke jab thak gaye the, tab PUSALMAAN ban gaye. aur aaj tu isi liye PUSLIM hai!!
WE R THOSE HINDUS WHO WILL P E E on UR FACE, and U WON’t BE ABLE TO DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
haan bolna, kya bak na hai tujhe, bol behichak!!! k2e!!!!
NARENDRA BHAI MODI JI, MY DEAR NOn_PUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!! THIS POEM IS DEDICATED TO U ALL!!!
PUSLIMS, SICKULARS and BEER SANGHVI!!
DO NOT PROCEED FURTHER, and IF U DO, I ASSURE U, U K2@s WON’T LIKE IT, NOT ONE BIT!!
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NARENDRA MODI ZINDABAAAAAAD!!! ZINDABAAAAD!!!
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NARENDRA MODI ALL THE WAY!!!!!
INDIA HAS FOUND ITS HERO AFTER A LONG NIGHT
AND NOW DAWNS THE DAY!!
DOWN WITH THE SICKULARS,
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THESE JOKERS!
MAKE NARENDRA MODI THE PM OF INDIA!!
TO GOD, THATS WHAT WE PRAY!
LET WHOEVER WANTS TO COME,
MEET US IN BATTLE,
JUMP INTO THE FRAY!
NOTHING CAN STOP NARENDRA MODI NOW, COME WHAT MAY!
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DOWN WITH MUSLIM APPEASEMENT!
WE NO LONGER WANT NO SUCH ENTERTAINMENT!
WHICH CAN LEAD TO ONE RESULT ONLY,
AND THAT IS INDIA’s DISMEMBERMENT
ALL OVER AGAIN(after1947)!
We NON_PUSLIMS DO NOT WANT TO
FEEL NO MORE OF THAT PAIN!
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SO WE NON MUSLIMS HAVE DECIDED THIS TIME,
TO PUT A DECISIVE END TO PISLAM’s RHYME
AND FINISH WHAT MOHD BIN QASIM(Arab invader-1200 yrs ago) STARTED
YEAH, ONCE AND FOR ALL, FINISH PISLAM & SICKULAR POLITICIAN’s GAME,
COZ ITS HIGH TIME WE NON_MUSLIMS, On SICKULAR’s FACE, FARTED!
COZ ITS TIME WE UPHOLDED HINDU/SIKH/XIAN/JEW/JAIN/BUDDHISTs etc NAME,
AND STAMPED ON THE WORLD MAP, MOTHER INDIA’s GLORIOUS FAME!
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DOWN WITH THE SICKULAR TRAITORS,
WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT DIVIDE US!
TREMBLE O INDIA-HATERS,
TREMBLE O VOTE-BANK SEEKING ALLIGATORS!!
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RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, O SICKULARS,
THE HINDU IS NO LONGER ASLEEP,
CURSE OF THE HINDUS WILL DESTROY YOU,
TEARS OF THE HINDUS WILL DROWN YOU,
SCREAMS OF THE HINDUS OF KASHMIR, BENGAL, PUNJAB, SINDH, BALOCHISTAN, KERALA,
KHYBER, WILL CRUSH YOU TO OBLIVION O TRAITORS!
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WE HINDUS WILL BURY YOU SICKULARS SO DEEP,
THAT YOU SICKULARS WILL BEG FOR DEATH,
BUT DEATH WON’T COME SO CHEAP,
FOR ETERNITY, FOREVER YOU SHALL WEEP!
WHAT YOU TRAITORS HAVE SOWN FOR THE PAST 1200 YEARS,
THAT YOU ALL SHALL HAVE TO REAP!
OVER YOUR GRAVES, INTO THE PROMISING FUTURE, INDIA SHALL LEAP!
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RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, YOU CORRUPT KHANGRESSI SLAVES!!
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR MAFIA FAMILY,
WHICH HAS ALWAYS INSULTED OUR PATRIOT BRAVES,
LOOTED US WITHOUT REMORSE!
YOUR HEADS HELD HIGH, SITTING ON YOUR CORRUPT HORSE!
COME 2014, AND YOU KHANGRESSIs & SICKULARS & TRAITORS
ALL SHALL BE MADE TO DIG YOUR OWN GRAVES!
”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’
BUT THE BLESSINGS OF OUR COURAGEOUS MARTYRS
NOW RISES FROM THEIR FORGOTTEN GRAVES!
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KHANGRESS KA KHATMA KARO DESHWASIYON!
DESH KI AATMA KI RAKSHA KARO DESHWASIYON!
KHANGRESS KO DAFNAAO!!
NARENDRA MODI KO JITAAO!!(by 2/3 majority atleast all over India),
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VOTER I-CARD BANWAO, VOTE DAALNE JAO, DESHBHAKTI APNAAO!
ARWIND KEJRIWAL(AAP) KO ONLY OPPOSITION BANAO!(all over India)
BAKI SAB PARTIYON KA KHAATMA KARDO(except Akali Dal, Shiv Sena)
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TABHI HATEGA ARTICLE TEEN-SAU-SATTAR(370)
KASHMIR HOGA TABHI SAHI ME BHARAT KE ANDAR
MUSLIM KARE BADE MAUJ ME 4 BAAR NIKAAH,
AUR HUM SAB KAREN BAS EK BAAR VIVAAH!
YEH TO BADI NAAINSAAFI HUI HAM SAB KE SAATH!!
JISKE ZIMMEDAR HAI BAS KAMINE KHANGRESS KA HAATH!
TABHI BANEGA UNIFORM CIVIL CODE
POPULATION CONTROL HOGI K2UON KI,
BEKAR HOGA, THOOKNE LAAYAK REH JAEGA UNKA(K2uon Ka) VOTE!
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TABHI BANEGA AYODHYA ME BHAVYA RAM MANDIR,
AUR BANEGA KASHI, MATHURA ME MANDIR
TABHI AAYEGA JANLOKPAL, POLICE REFORM,
JUDICIAL/ELECTORAL REFORM
WARNA HOJAEGA POORA INDIA DEFORM!
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HAR HINDU/SIKH/BUDDHIST/ISAI/JAIN/YAHUDI/ATHEIST ETC
HAI TUMHARA BHAI!
DOSTI KARNE LAAYAK NAHI PUSLIM QASAI!
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JAAT-PAAT, REGION, LANGUAGE KA ANDHVISHWAAS(Superstition)
HATAO AUR MITAO MERE NON_MUSLIM BHAI
JO BANI HAMARI 1200 SAAL KI GULAMI KA KAARAN,
YAHI HAI HAMARE BHED-BHAV KI KADWI SACHHAI!
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PUSLIM RAKSHASON NE PEHLE AFGHANISTAN, SINDH, BALOCHISTAN, WEST PUNJAB, KHYBER, EAST BENGAL, NORTH KERALA, KASHMIR VALLEY ME HAI TABAAHI MACHAAI!
WAHAAN KE NON_MUSLIMS KI HUI NAHI KOI SUNWAAI!!
WAHAAN KE NON_MUSLIMS SAB BECHAARE HOGAYE TATA BYE BYE!!
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AB TO JAAGO HINDUON, WARNA HOJAOGE TUM BHI
GREEN COLOR SE DYE!!
AAJ WEST BENGAL, UP, ASSAM, KERALA, KASHMIR ME BHI,
DHAA RAHA QAHAR MUSLIM, ISLAM MACHAA RAHA TABAAHI,
kAL BIHAR AUR ODISHA, TUM BHI NAHI BACHOGE MERE BHAI!!
AUR YEH TAB TAK CHALEGA, JAB TAK HUM SAB NON_MUSLIM=Kaafir
HO JAEN NA POORE SOUTH ASIA ME FRY! AISI AAG HAI ISLAM NE LAGAI!
””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’
IRAN KE PARSEE HOGAYE GAAYAB
BAKI TO AAYE THE BHAAG BHARAT!
AFGHANISTAN to UZBEKISTAN TO TURKMENISTAN to TAJIKISTAN to XINJIANG(CHINA) SAB BUDDHIST HOGAYE GAAYAB!
ALL CREDIT TO PISLAM KI MAHIMA GAZAB!
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AFGHANISTAN ME MOUNTAIN RANGE KA NAAM HAI HINDU-KUSH=HINDU SLAUGHTER!
IT IS NOT FUNNY! NOT A MATTER OF LAUGHTER!
ALL CREDIT TO PEACEFUL & SICKULAR PISLAM!
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BOSNIA to KOSOVO SE LEKAR ALBANIA to CYPRUS, TURKEY to AZARBAIJAAN,
CHECHNYA (RUSSIA), DAGESTAN (RUSSIA) SE GAYAB HUA ISAI
MOROCCO TO EGYPT,
MALI, MAURITANIA TO BURKINA FASO TO SOMALIA TO NORTH KENYA,
SIERRA LEONE TO SUDAN TO NORTH NIGERIA TO TANZANIA
HAR TARAF BANA BAKRA ISAAI(XIAN) AUR BANA MUSLIM KASAI !
”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’
YEMEN to BARAIN to PALESTINE To IRAQ to SYRIA,
LEBANON, JORDAN to ARABIA,
SOUTH PHILLIPPINES
HAR jAGAH MAARA GAYA YAHUDI(JEWS) AUR ISAAI,
JAB MUSLIMS NE QAYAAMAT UNPE DHAI!!
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INDONESIA, MALAYSIA, SOUTH THAILAND, ARAKAN-BURMA, BRUNEI,
SAB JAGAH HOGAYA HINDU/BUDDHIST GAYAAB,
KUCHH AISE ISLAM KI AANDHI AAYI!!
””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
NEW YORK, LONDON, MADRID, MOSCOW, BALI(INDONESIA),
ISRAEL, AFRICA, AND ALL OVER SOUTH ASIA,
THROUGHOUT THE PLANET, ALL OVER THE WORLD,
DEHSHATGARDI (TERRORISM) ISLAM KI, CHAARON TARAF HAI CHHAAI !!
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ROZ KAHIN NA KAHIN BOMB BLAST, TERROR ATTACK
BAN GAYI POORI DUNIYA KI SACHHAI, AISA HAI ISLAM MERE BHAI!
”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
KAAFIR(NON_MUSLIM) NAHI MILTA MAARNE KO
TO AAPAS ME HI MAAR DAALTE HAIN EK DOOSRE KO!
SHIA KO MAARE SUNNI, BARELVI/SUFI/HANAFI KO MAARE WAHABBI/SALAAFI/DEOBANDI,
AHMEDIYA TO BECHAARE ROZ HI MAARE JAATE,
NAHI UNKE QATAL PE ISLAM ME KOI PAABANDI !,
ASHRAF(Upper Caste Muslim) MAARE ALJAF(Lower Caste Muslim) KO,
JO MAARE ARZAL(Untouchable Muslim) KO!
SHANTI YEH LOG AAPAS ME HI NAHI RAKH PAATE,
KH00N KE EK D00SRE KE HOJATE YEH K2E PYAASE!
TO HUM KAAFIRON SE KAISE KARLENGE ASAL DOSTI YEH K2E KAMINE!???
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BEWAK00F NA BANO, JAAHIL(IGNORANT) NAA RAHO!
GOOGLE BHAGWAAN KI DAYA SE QURAN/HADITH ME CHHIPA ZEHER, PADH DAALO!
K2uon TUM HO FASCIST, YEH UNKE MUH PE, NIDAR HOKAR, BEHICHAK BOL DAALO!
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QITAABON ME INKE(ISLAM KE) HAI EVERY NON_MUSLIM KE LIE BAS NAFRAT!
INKA BHAICHAARA TUMSE TABHI TAK HAI
JAB TAK HOTE YEH AKHLIYAT(Minority)!
[[[[Game of Lying/Acting/Denial/Deception to Hide the real instructions of
Quran/Hadith and to conceal the real intentions of Muslims in order to F00L the Non_Muslims,
this DEADLY GAME OF OUTRIGHT TREACHERY/TREASON is Called = Al-Taqqiya
One of the many verses that Prove it:
Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya)
لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْ دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ إِلَّا أَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ
Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.]]]]]
JISDIN BAN GAYE YEH MAJORITY, KHANGRESS KO KAAT DAALENGE YEH
BEDARDI !
K2uon Ka True LOVE=MUSLIM LEAGUE AUR JAMAAT-e-ISLAMI CHADD JAEGA TUM PE!
SHARIA RULE KA BHASMAASUR NAACHEGA TUMHARE SAR PE!
YA TO MAARE JAOGE, NAHI TO K2@ BANA DIE JAOGE ZABARDASTI !
(Islam is growing inside India at 5 times the rate of Non_Muslim Growth
officially
and unofficially the figures are much worse, because of INFILTRATION from
Bangladesh and Pakistan, ————–if present trends continue, then INDIA will be MUSLIM majority by 2035-40, and from that day onwards all hell will break L00se! and Pakistan and Bangladesh will rule the roost!=Help the Muslims to take over India, just like Opportunistic virus/bacteria/cancer cells help the HIV virus to KILL the Human host, and Hindus/Sikhs will be gone and INDIA will be gone from the worldmap forever, Just like the Parsees of Iran, Buddhists /Hindus of Afghanistan, and Non_muslims of Pakistan, Bangladesh, North Kerala, Kashmir Valley, Parts of West Bengal, Parts of UP and Assam-Dhubri Dist, and some areas of Bodoland, Some areas of Maharashtra-Beed, Malegaon etc, Some areas of AP=SOuth Central Hyderabad, areas of adilabad, nizamabad, some areas of Bihar like Kishanganj, Katihar, some areas of Karnataka like Bhatkal, Bidar, Gulbarga, some areas of Gujrat, like GODHRA etc)
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ISLIYE HAI YEH MERI, TUM SABSE EK CHHOTI SI GUZAARISH!
2014 KE MAHABHARAT ME KARDO NARENDRA MODI PE VOTON KI BAARISH!
ROTI, KAPDA, MAKAAN, JAAT-PAAT, REGION, LANGUAGE, CAREER, ECONOMY,
HUMAN RIGHTS, INFLATION CORRUPTION, POVERTY etc etc PE,
BAAD ME LADAI/BAKARC*H0DI KARTE REHNA, LADTE REHNA!
JAB ISLAM SE BACHEGI, TABHI TO UD PAEGI INDIAN MAINA!
AGAR ISLAM KE ZARIE UPAR LIKHE PROBLEMS ME EK BHI SOLVE HOJATA!!
TO PAKISTAN, PAKISTAN NAHI REHTA, SAB CALIFORNIA BAN JATA!
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TUM SAB NON_MUSLIMS KE SAATH
DIN DAHADE HAR JAGAH, KH00N KI HOLI!!
AUR LAGEGI TUMHARE WOMEN(M o t h e r, S i s t e r, W i f e, Friend,
D a u g h t e r) KI DIN DAHADE, SAR-E-AAM, SAR-E-BAZAAR BOLI!!
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HOGA BAS ISLAM KA GREEN COLOUR CHAARON TARAF, AISI HOGI RANGOLI!
ISLIYE SOCHO, SAMJHO, JAANO, SICKULARISM KO MAARO GOLI!!!
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JAHAAN BJP HO STRONG, WAHAAN BJP KO DAALNA VOTE,
AUR KISI DOOSRE PARTY KO VOTE NA DENA!
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KHANGRESS AUR SICKULAR PARTIES KA KARO MURDABAAD!!
BOLO ZOR SE, NARENDRA MODI ZINDABAAAD!! ZINDABAAAD!!!! HINDU/SIKH/ISAI/BUDDHIST/JAIN/ATHEIST/ALL NON-MUSLIMS ZINDABAAAD!!
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BEWAK00F NA BANNA
PISLAM KE BHAICHAARE KE ABHINAY(Acting) KE JAAL ME FASKAR!
LOHA HAI GARAM!! MAARO HATODA KASKAR!!
NARENDRA BHAI MODI KO JITAAO, KHANGRESS KO DASKAR!
RONE DO K2UON KO, TUM JEETOGE HASKAR!!
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JAI HIND! VANDE MA TARAM!
KHANGRESS KA KARDO CHH00 MANTARAM!!!
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JAI SHRI RAAM!! JO BOLE SO NIHAAL, SAT SRI AKAAL!
JAB KRIPA HO SHIV SHAMBHU KI, TO KOI BAANKA NA KAR PAE EK BHI BAAL!!
LOVE JESUS! BUDDHAM SHARANAM GACHHAMI! JAI TRIKAAL!
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BECAUSE HERE COMES NARENDRA MODI-THE LION OF GUJARAT!
WHO LOVES US, ONLY FOR INDIA BEATS HIS HEART!
INTO THE FACES OF THE SICKULARS WE SHALL ****!
COME 2014, WE WILL TEAR THE TRAITORS APART!
INDIA IS GONNA RISE AGAIN, AS NARENDRA MODI WILL GET INTO THE
DRIVER’s SEAT and PUT HIS FOOT DOWN ON THE GAS, and the
INDIAN JUGGERNAUT WILL GET A ROARING START!
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NARENDRA MODI ZINDABAAAD!! ZINDABAAAAD!!!
TUM HO HAMARE HINDU HRIDAY SAMRAAT!
HARADE TUMKO, DEKHTE HAIN HUM BHI IS BAAR, KIS KAMINE KI YEH AUKAAD!
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JEETOGE TUM, PM BANOGE TUM, HAI SAARE PATRIOTS KE YAHI JASBAAT!
RAASTE ME JO AAYEGA NARENDRA MODI KE, HUM MARENGE USE ZORDAAR LAAT!!
MUSLIM CHAHE YA NA CHAHE, IS BAAR BANKE RAHEGI BAAT!
”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
HUM JALAAKE RAHENGE IS BAAR SICKULARS KI JHAANT!
JAB NARENDRA MODI PE HOGI HAMAARE VOTON KI BARSAAT!!!
KHANGRESS GAYAB HOGI HINDUSTAAN SE RAATON RAAT!
JAB JAI JAIKAAR HOGI HAR DISHA ME, NARENDRA MODI ZINDABAAD!! ZINDABAAAAD!
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Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya, GlaanirBhavati Bhaaratah!
Abhyutthaanam Adharmasya, Tadaatmaanam Srijaamyaham!
Paritraanaaya Sadhunaam VINAAASHAAAYACHA DUSHKRITAAM!!
DHARMA SANSTHAAPANAARTHAAYA SAMBHAVAAMI YUGE YUGE!!!!!!!!!!!
Translation:
Whenever and wherever there is a decline in virtue/religious practice/good O
Descendant of Bharata, and a Predominant rise of Irreligion/Evil- at that time
I descend Myself!
In order to deliver/save the pious and to annihilate the miscreants/evil,
as well as to reestablish the principles of religion/good/virtue,
I advent Myself millennium after millennium!
Source:
Word of God=SrimadBhagawat Gita
—–2341414——————— -KAVITA SAMAAPT!————*&^*&*&^*&—VI
DO NOT pAY ANY ATTENTION TO NAME OF THIS POST “M0Di should Apologize for 2002″!!! ———-only to draw ur attention!
You have no class and substance. Your article shows how ignorant you are of social media. If you scan
through comment section of any political news, electronic or press, it is
overwhelmed by BJP supporters since its inception in India; congress supporters barely sneak through. Urban
middle class forms the majority chunks of social media users which more or less
are BJP supporters. Modi or for that matter, any other leader just cannot finance such movement for these many years unless there are educated mass followers who have faith in the vision of in their leader.Hence I conclude that its advantage BJP. Sycophants like
you are a blot on our democratic system as you cannot see the world beyond perpetuating misrule and abuse by Khangrace. Go get life for yourself!
With all these urban abusers see the number of seats BJP won in any metro or cities…..zero is the answer….new delhi….chennai…calcutta no seats….Mumbai 2 seats…..then go to other cities from south to north ..except for Ahmedabad no where could BJP win…..A ZERO jokers party.
Come election year/time and Veer is onto his old tricks as seen during Radia tapes scandal. His article here directly implicates BJP but maintains ambiguity when it comes to Congress. I read his non-political views, but always question his intentions and integrity when it comes to political views.
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! You all know why I could not become
the PM of India before. But I have no regrets. I implemented all my
ideas in China with the help of a friendly Govt. in China and see where
China is today ! : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Few years back when Narayan Murthy
was nobody and was looking for a place to setup INFOSYS, I gave him a
piece of land in Gujarat. See my Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Now
what level Narayan Murthy has reached ! My Brothers and Sisters and
Mothers ! The air in my Gujrat is such that even a peon can become a big
time manufacturer like Narayan Murthy !! : Feku Modi
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! When Suzuki was looking for a place
to manufacture a new small car in India, they chose Gujarat to setup
their first factory in India. This named this small car – “Maruti” : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers !This unfriendly media has been talking
about farmers committing suicide in my Gujarat. Actually that is not
true. They have been sent to Moon on a special mission. My Govt. has
provided the ownership of land in moon to these farmers for their Second
Life : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! When I came to Delhi, I realised it
was too hot. The traffic police men were sweating in this summer heat.
Then I realised how better off my traffic policemen were in Gujarat ! My
Govt. has supplied each traffic cop 7 sets of namo technology based
undies. The namo fan in these special namo undies starts cooling the
moment outside heat becomes unbearable. : Feku Modi
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Today you will find hindu mothers and
sisters all over the country worshipping Tulsi plant in their
courtyard. It’s possible because of a Gujarati woman – Tulsi : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! You must have heard Punjabis love
Butter Chicken. Wherever you go in Delhi you see Punjabis chewing on
Tandoori Chicken, Butter Chicken Chicken Tikkam Afgani Chicken….. You will be happy to know Gujarat supplies 93.21% chickens to Delhi and Punjab. : Feku Modi
God and Religion by SUPER-FEKU POPAT MohMAD
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Dear
Puslim Brothers and Sisters and Mothers! (I didn’t mention father
because we Puslims are not sure about our fathers, since Our Mothers do
MEHNAT on bed with too many people to produce us, and so it is difficult
to identity which one is our father).
The P U $ $ Y shaped Blackstone(ASWAD) is a GIFT from God(in reality,
it is symbol of M00N G0DDESS ALLAHA). All other stones are SYMBOLS of
SATAN!
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat, you must have seen,
all cars run 6.8″ above the ground. We have introduced the latest latest
Maglev Road Building Technology. Since there is no friction, there is
no wear and tear. That is why our roads in my Gujarat shine like pink
cheeks of our Mothers and Sisters : Feku Modi
FEKU PoPAT M0HMAD Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
God and Religion by SUPER-FEKU POPAT MohMAD
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Dear Puslim Brothers and Sisters and Mothers! (I didn’t mention father because we Puslims are not sure about our fathers, since Our Mothers do MEHNAT on bed with too many people to produce us, and so it is difficult to identity which one is our father).
The P U $ $ Y shaped Blackstone(ASWAD) is a GIFT from God(in reality, it is symbol of M00N G0DDESS ALLAHA). All other stones are SYMBOLS of SATAN!
That ASWAD stone is a magical stone. It can absorb Our sins if we Kiss it. Originally that stone was white, but after centuries of exposure to Billions of Kisses and associated SINS, that Stone has Become BLACK due to collection of so much SIN till now.
That is why I have ordered u Puslims to keep ASWAD inside our Most Holy Mosque Masjid-AL-HARAM, in Kaaba, Mecca, Saudi Arabia, and turn towards it when u offer NAMAAZ no matter where on earth U may be.
That is why I have ordered u PUSLIMS to make SEVEN revolutions of that ASWAD on foot.
Dear PUSLIM BROTHERS and SISTER and MOTHERS!!
People might tell u that I was a debauched hypocrite, since I asked all PUSLIMS not to have more than 4 wives simultaneously, while I myself kept 9 to 10 wives at a time.
That is not true. I am NOT A hypocrite.
I kept more than 4 wives because ALLAH gave me special permission, since in the eyes of ALLAH, I am SPECIAL, SUPERMAN, MAN WITH BEST CHARACTER, MOST INTELLIGENT EVER BORN ON THIS PLANET, MOST POWERFUL, MOST COURAGEOUS, MOST COURTEOUS, MOST BENEVOLENT, MOST JUST, etc etc blah blah, in short, In ALLAH’s EYES , I , MohMAD am THE ONLY MARYAADAA PURUSHOTTAM man ever on earth!!!!
That is why ALLAH gave me special permission to have more than 4 wives, in fact, to have as many wives as I want.
So u see I am not a Hypocrite!! I would not have kept more than 4 wives if ALLAH had not permitted me to DO SO. hehe
Yours SIncerely
SUPER-FEKU Popat MohMAD
Address: my Grave, Near Mecca, Saudi Arabian Desert
God and Religion by SUPER-FEKU POPAT MohMAD
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Puslim Brothers and Sisters and Mothers! (I didn’t mention father
because we Puslims are not sure about our fathers, since Our Mothers do
MEHNAT on bed with too many people to produce us, and so it is difficult
to identity which one is our father).
The P U $ $ Y shaped Blackstone(ASWAD) is a GIFT from God(in reality,
it is symbol of M00N G0DDESS ALLAHA). All other stones are SYMBOLS of
SATAN!
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat, you must have
seen,pigs don’t eat shit. They grow on organic food. That is why all
over world Gujarati pigs are in great demand : Feku Modi
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! In my Gujarat, you must have seen,
we have introduced a new breed of Genetically Modified Mosquitoes. These
mosquitoes don’t suck blood. They suck your sweat. Since there is no
sweat left, in Gujurat we don’t use Air Conditioners or fans. This is
how my Gujurat has become a power surplus state : Feku Modi
FEKU POPAT MohMAD Reply: April 12th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
God and Religion by SUPER-FEKU POPAT MohMAD
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Dear Puslim Brothers and Sisters and Mothers! (I didn’t mention father because we Puslims are not sure about our fathers, since Our Mothers do MEHNAT on bed with too many people to produce us, and so it is difficult to identity which one is our father).
IT WAS ANGEL Gabriel who told me the whole Quran(word of God) inside a cave, in the mountains near Mecca.
Our Religion PISLAM is the religion of the 1st MAN on earth, ADAM.
All other religions are SATAN WORSHIP, or corruptions of / deviations from PISLAM.
The sun revolves around the Earth.
Everything that we see, has been created by GOD, but GOD is not INSIDE anything.
Hindus ARE IDOLATORS, following facts will make it clear.
The P U $ $ Y shaped Blackstone(ASWAD) is a GIFT from God(in reality, it is symbol of M00N G0DDESS ALLAHA). All other stones are SYMBOLS of SATAN!
That ASWAD stone is a magical stone. It can absorb Our sins if we Kiss it. Originally that stone was white, but after centuries of exposure to Billions of Kisses and associated SINS, that Stone has Become BLACK due to collection of so much SIN till now.
That is why I have ordered u Puslims to keep ASWAD inside our Most Holy Mosque Masjid-AL-HARAM, in Kaaba, Mecca, Saudi Arabia, and turn towards it when u offer NAMAAZ no matter where on earth U may be.
That is why I have ordered u PUSLIMS to make SEVEN revolutions of that ASWAD on foot.
Dear PUSLIM BROTHERS and SISTER and MOTHERS!!
People might tell u that I was a debauched hypocrite, since I asked all PUSLIMS not to have more than 4 wives simultaneously, while I myself kept 9 to 10 wives at a time.
That is not true. I am NOT A hypocrite.
I kept more than 4 wives because ALLAH gave me special permission, since in the eyes of ALLAH, I am SPECIAL, SUPERMAN, MAN WITH BEST CHARACTER, MOST INTELLIGENT EVER BORN ON THIS PLANET, MOST POWERFUL, MOST COURAGEOUS, MOST COURTEOUS, MOST BENEVOLENT, MOST JUST, etc etc blah blah, in short, In ALLAH’s EYES , I , MohMAD am THE ONLY MARYAADAA PURUSHOTTAM man ever on earth!!!!
That is why ALLAH gave me special permission to have more than 4 wives, in fact, to have as many wives as I want.
So u see I am not a Hypocrite!! I would not have kept more than 4 wives if ALLAH had not permitted me to DO SO. hehe
Yours SIncerely
SUPER-FEKU Popat MohMAD
Address: my Grave, Near Mecca, Saudi Arabian Desert
ALL RELIGIONs, ESPECIALLY ISLAM, TEACH SECULARISM, HINDUISM IS NO SPECIAL, ISLAM ALSO REACHES HUMAN RIGHTS, SECULARISM in a much better way than HINDUISM.
FOLLOWING verses of AL-QURAN and AL-HADITH prove my Point, that ISLAM is THE MOST SECULAR PEACEFUL RELIGION of PLANET EARTH.
PR00F(and it does NOT NEED NO CONTEXTS):–
Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya) = لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَأَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْدُونِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍإِلَّاأَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَإِلَىاللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ = “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.”
Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Puslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.” (This verse justifies
lying/acting/deception/denial and even abuse to PIslam and Prophet by a Puslim if need be, in case that Puslim is living in Non_muslim MAJORITY LAND)!
“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29
(Secular concept)
“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible &Torah=Xians & Jews] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6
AL-QURAN: Chapter 4(An-Nisa: “the women”). Verse 56:
Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.
“He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.”
Quran 3:85 (Secular concept…LOL)
AL-QURAN: Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”,
Verse 30: “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51 (Muslims love
XIans/Jewslol!!)
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According to Muhammad, written in Hadith, marriage of the kuffar is annulled once the women are captured. Any Kafir female captured in battle
can be R A P E D !!!!!!
—–SBukhari 59:459(Hadith)= Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri said, “We went out
with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa {holy war with the prophet} of Banu
Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab Pagans. We desired the women and we did coitus interruptus {withdrawing before ejaculation – to avoid pregnancy for better ransom}. So we asked Allah’s Apostle about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist.”
(Muhammad essentially stated that there was no need to withdraw while
r a p i n g the captives because birth was dependent on destiny not copulation. Therefore, according to Muhammad, marriage of the kuffar is annulled once the women are captured. Any Kafir female captured in battle can be r a p e d.)
THESE BJP/RSS PEOPLE don’t have any sanskars, ..THEY ARE ALL GOING TO HELL AFTER DEATH ANYWAY, since they ARE HINDU KAAFIRS,
BUT All the SANSKARS only I=P00Pet MohMAD had.
following are some of the demos of my SANSKARS..
- I used to lead a robber gang by day, and used to be a business man by night.
-I married an OLD widow when He was a Young Lad, (LADY was my BO$$ at work), in order to INHERIT HER RICHES and BECOME RICH BY SHORT-CUT.
-married the 6 yr old daughter of his best friend ABU BAKARCH0D=AISHA(after getting her engagement with a young boy JUBAIR, cancelled), when I was 52 yrs
old, used to ejaculate on her thighs till she became 9 yrs old, and I became 55 yrs old, and then used to Hump that Girl Child till I died.
-I married my own daughter-in-law (Zainab bint Jahsh) after getting herdivorced from my own adopted son, and declared her to be the mother of her ex-husband(his adopted son).
-I killed the whole families(brothers, uncle, father, husband etc) of 2 young Jewish girls(one was 17 yrs old-Safiyya Bint Huyayy, another below 30-Zaynab Bint Khuzayma) with my own hands, r a p e d those girls that very night, and forcibly married them a few days later, when I was more than 55 years old,
-I was a debauched P00Pet who allowed u k2@s to marry only 4 women at a time, and myself married more than 10 women,
-I killed(beheaded) 500 unarmed Jews in a single day with my own hands and boasted about it in the Hadith
-I called all Non_muslim, Non-Xian, Non-Jew people as IDOLATORS, and yet asked K2@s to Keep a P U $ $ Y(VA GI NA) shaped BlackStone(Aswad) inside PI$LAM’s MOST HOLY MOSQUE, the MASJID-AL-HARAM in Kaaba, MECCA, and asked you to Ki$$ it, and asked u to do NAMAAZ facing that Blackstone containing Mosque,
no matter wherever on the planet u might be, because I told u that stone was a gift from ALLAH. (as if all other stones on the planet are gifts from SATAN??? hahahaha LOL)
NOW, DO ME A FAVOUR!!! NUKE MY GRAVE!!!=====================================================
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! The latest Agni Missile was launched
from Ahmedabad Space Centre and it flew on a new fuel – water from
Gujarat : Feku Modi
The point is that Twitter storms are being manipulated.
—- same as english print media in india, say something new…
congress is trying to divert the tytlers , case reopend by supreme court. money paid to write about BJP & modi,
really, what is important – twitter being manipulated or a congress minister’s case reopened by supreme court. more than 3000 sikhs were killed & supreme court does not accept the closing report. Not a word about it, but then english media will be unemployed without modi.
STOP KISSING KHANGRESS AND K2@ @R$e!! BOTH OF THEM WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR PARTITION, FOR KASHMIR PROBLEM, FOR ALL THE TERROR ATTACKS, FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT PLAGUES INDIA TODAY……FOLLOWING ARE THE REASONS WHY MOST PUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS BUT MOST TERRORISTS ARE PUSLIMS…
PR00F(and it does NOT NEED NO CONTEXTS):–
Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya) = لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَأَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْدُونِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍإِلَّاأَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَإِلَىاللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ = “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.”
Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Puslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.” (This verse justifies lying/ acting/ deception / denial and even abuse to PIslam and Prophet by a Puslim if need be, in case that Puslim is living in Non_muslim MAJORITY LAND)!
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“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29 (Secular concept)
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“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible &
Torah=Xians & Jews] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6 (SECULAR???)
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AL-QURAN: Chapter 4(An-Nisa: “the women”). Verse 56:
Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise. (note: This verse says “THOSE WH0 DISBELIEVE”, and NOT “those who fight us, or oppress us” ) ….
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“He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.” Quran 3:85 (Secular concept…LOL)
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AL-QURAN: Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”,
Verse 30: “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christianssay: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
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Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not
be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.” (THIS IS THE PEACE OF PISLAM)
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Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
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“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51 (Muslims love XIans/Jewslol!!)
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“He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.” Quran 3:85
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According to Muhammad, written in Hadith, marriage of the kuffar is annulled once the women are captured. Any Kafir female captured in battle
can be R A P E D !!!!!!
SBukhari 59:459(Hadith)= Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri said, “We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa {holy war with the prophet} of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab Pagans. We desired the women and we did coitus interruptus {withdrawing before ejaculation – to avoid pregnancy for better ransom}. So we asked Allah’s Apostle about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist.”
(Muhammad essentially stated that there was no need to withdraw while r a p i n g the captives because birth was dependent on destiny not copulation. Therefore, according to Muhammad, marriage of the kuffar is annulled once thewomen are captured. Any Kafir female captured in battle can
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Vir ‘Radia’ Singhvi and his contemptible tribe are getting increasingly agitated and desperate that the Modi juggernaut seems unstoppable. All their slander and machinations have failed. They are going to get even more ridiculous.
Lol, Vir (Ku-vir) as we all know you are a blind congi supporter and great beneficiary so far from the great 65 years of loot…I don’t know why on earth people like you do not understand that its conflicting to report on media and same time be part of ruling alliance?????? We don’t even need to read your BS as its expected Modi bashing!!!!!!!!!!! Shameless please stop wasting our and yours time!!!!!! shame on you.
There are bloggers who are independent minded & do not belong to either congress or BJP. Any criticism of congress does not always comes from a BJP supporters. There are millions who are in despair due to the policies of congress govt.
Not the ones that show distrust on Congress. There are several twitter trends that target anyone these guys think are acting pro-Congress… I am no congress supporter. Modi seems inspiring leader. I hear muslims in Gujarat are happy with him. But its bothersome that Uma Bharti and Rajnath Singh are backing Modi. Rajnath Singh recently spoke about need for Ram temple… Saffron politics unleashing itself. Thanks the corrupt congress government…
Mr Vir Sanghvi should have been a matured person by now, especially after disclosures of Radia tapes. A small child will tell – that one who is more popular , either way , will be talked about more in social circles ; and so be in the Social Media . Who discusses a useless bum except in a passing reference ? Manipulated or not , blinds will also hear the jingle bells of celebrations except Gandhiji’s modern Monkeys .
While one can explain abuse from workers hired to tweet, what excuse does Vir Sanghvi, supposedly a reporter, have in writing such an abusive article? Perhaps the Congress party has paid reporters as well?
I believe this started happening after the real twitter trend Shahrukh Khan unitentionally created when Shiv sena demanded apology by withholding release of MNIK. He tweeted from Dubai premiere of the film and each tweet was getting hundreds and hundreds of live responses. Of course twitter crowd was very small then and neutrals hated MNS/Sena politics. Shahrukh become twitter hero. Now he in his self imposed exile from tweeples. (what an irony).
After this I noted trends like #Barkhagate and one against #ChetanBagat attack happening. Barkha for her involvement in sting operation involving Nadia and Chetan for his view on minorities. I noticed that all these losers mirrored the views of Kanchan Gupta a frustrated cynical congress hater. Then realized the InternetHindus, againstPsuedos, nationfirst, Truth Speaker ids are all BJP guys dedicating their online life for their agendas i.e against secular (they call it sickular).
I only believe they are not paid. And that is rather very very very very worrisome. The hate they unravel shows the next few years with Modi as PM is going eventful. Riots, bomb blast and sheer communal disharmony is going to prevail.
The problem is these guys are so confidently viewing their hate and intolerance openly as they are armed with wide spread public mistrust against the corrupt UPA government.
First an immature revolution that threatened to shake the very basis of our constitution hidden behind a Gandhi lookalike took the publics fancy. The men behind the puppet made their political move which disheartened and weakened the fiasco.
Now the Internet hindus are piggy backing the man in the horse with a magic wand that can fix Indias problems — Narendra Modi. I really want a man like Modi to do something for the nation. Looks like the Hindutva obsessed hate mongers won’t allow him to function as a patriot.
This shameless sw1ne and a corrupt cook-turned-crook 2-bit hack thinks that BJP employs to expose p1gs like him! If we are not BJP employed trolls, then “internet HIndus” we are? Why do you joker even write anythign here on the internet! Moron, anyone agreeing with your hate filled hacking is what?
For the quality of English this cook turned crook should read NitiCentral or one of gthe numerous right wing bloggers like Rajeev Srinivasan, Sandeep et al. They are all masters degree holders from Stanford and other such American schools. Are you from anyone one of those schools, you c(r)ook old boy? You are not even fit to clean the floors of those schools!
As usual the frustrated soul rants without even checking the facts and problem is, he gets the platform to do so. I am not from BJP or RSS but reading this article, it seems the hatred and bile for Sangh and BJP comes naturally to him. Teaching Morality, Ethics is pretty easiest thing forgetting their ugly past and thats what nowadays fake intellectuals are doing.
This clearly shows how petty our corrupt greedy politicians are. That is why people are beginning to feel that none of them deserve to be there. Foght an elction on ideology and not single out individuals. Congress’s tirade clearly shows they have nothing thoi show to people except giving misery to people throughout their rule except EMERGENCY in seventies and Sikh GENOCIDE in the eighties. They should all rise above such pettiness and think of how to take the people and country forward an not trying to cover their tracks and let the country GO TO HELL.
Can somebody give a list of Journalists who are strongly Pro-BJP and active on the net like Vir is Pro-Congress ? Also please give their Blog / Website links.
Well if it’s a list of commentators of BJP you can see them below….10 of them ..leader being kanishka with his 100 comments…and there is one ****** who is a cut and paste with islamophobia and they come in different names…mostly paid guys from BJP’s PR agency.
Mr sanghvi
You are a substandard medicore journalist who can be used like a call Girl your un fortunately your words have no sense of wisdom or inteligence cal girl may be beautuful and atractive but is on sale
If India has to survive in 21 century India has to take a hard and firm stand Congress is damaging India we Indians have been ruled by foreigners for most of our existance I for one find pride in that Might King porus had the guts and fought Alexander the Great and our PM MM said that Minorities ( who came from out side sub continent) have first right on the resources and Yuraj said to US ambasdor that Hindu terror is threat to the nation considering the fact this sub contnent was plunderd by Ghoris and ghaznawis congress is extension of British and Muslim rule in India Prathvi Raj Chahan was the last real Indian leader of majority Hindus since we have not been ruled by a real strong firm leader and MODI is the one
You rightly chose the word like; call girl for Mr. Sanghvi. I have never come across a reputed editor to use a word like ‘Chaddiwala’ for anti congress persons. It is not that I have objections to his liking of people who remain without chaddies, but who wears a Chaddi and who do not, and why not, will remain in discussion now onwards, in other media also.
The writer has an extremely biased view against BJP. Use of derogatory terms against Modi supporters and a delusional view that everyone supporting modi is paid and controlled. On the contrary looking at this article i wonder who pays and controls the writer.
@ Vir Sanghavi-Radia, You must attend “Kya Aap Paanchvi Paas Se Tez Hai?” to realize certain facts about yourself. There’s a new tag for you and people from your class #InternetPappus…!! Coming few days, get ready to hear the words of appreciation you deserve.
One pities a senior TV editor who relies on Twitter trends to figure out the national mood and trends. If this does not sound condescending from someone who does not understands Twitter, Facebook and social media – and is none the less better informed -, a certain dumbing down of the media is now far advanced. One pities candidates who figures they can get elected by manipulating the social media. The Rajya Sabha would be a safer bet for such feku netas.
People who write for money — like Sanghvi– cannot beleive that they could be INdians who are on the blogs becasue they love India. Look at the terms he uses. Chaddiwalas and Boffins.
Can’t expect better form a Congress– Pappu ka DIAPERWALLA– who is a full nauker to the Gandy dynasty/ Of course for hard cash!
Oye Gadha ! Feku Modi ka hisaab lagaya ? Kaal se idhar udhar bhag raha hai, gadha kahinka ! CA ban ne chala ! Bola tha jab Modi ka hissab banayega tab apna manhush sakal deekhana !
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Oye… Pappu ke diaper cleaner…. yahan aa gaya naukeri karne!
Laat Maar Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 8:41 am
Oye Gadha ! Kab Feku Modi ka hisaab banayega? Kaal se idhar udhar bhag raha hai ? Apna manhus sakal leke yahan logon ko pin maar raha hai ? Aa tera diaper kholke maarta hun. Tu ek baar mein line pe aa jayega.
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:06 am
Diaper Pappu ka khol kal mar diyo. mardon ke saath ghinoni harkat thum congresiyon ka purana kaam hai. jan nauker ban hi gaye toh tan man lun sab maalik ko de diya
Laat Maar Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Aa pehle tera maarta hun. Woh bhi chaddi ke saath. Sabke saamne chaddi-phad khel deekhata hun tujhe. Nagpur bhai logon ka yaad deelata hun tujhe. Thoda rest ke baad raat ko Feku Modi ka hissab bana lena.
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:22 am
Oye Pappu ke Diaper cleaning nauker… mardon ka shauk tujhko Pappu se mila hai kya?
Laat Maar Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Tera purana Nagpur wala shauk pura kar deta hun. Tera aaj kaal hisaab kitaab mein mun nehi lagta hai. Yahan wahan jaake logon ko pin maarta rehta hai.
Laat Maar Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Tera purana Nagpur wala shauk pura kar deta hun. Tera aaj kaal hisaab kitaab mein mun nehi lagta hai. Yahan wahan jaake logon ko pin maarta rehta hai.
darpok_pappu_ka_chamcha Reply: April 13th, 2013 at 10:43 am
aur tu pappu ke liye jhoot bol kar izzat baechta hai…
100 crores is being spent by the Congress for Twitter to propagate lies about the Pappu . Vir Sanghiv will of course not notice. he would want a slice of that pie…
Duggal closes the door of his bedroom to celebrate suhag raat with his wife who is wearing a ghungat and sitting on the bed. In filmi style, Duggal takes removes her ghungat… takes out a packet of Delux Nirodh…. a bottle of oil and hammer…
Allah jaane kya hoga aage
He takes out a bottle of oil… and pours it on his own head and does a champi!
Then takes out a hammer… and breaks the charpoi…
“what are you doing piya… what are you doing..piya…” His scared wife whipsers.
Duggal proudly inflates is chest to 56 inches, takes out the Delux Nirodh and …. blows Air into it to make it a balloon !
“What are you doing piya …what are you doing…” His scared wife whispers again.
DUGGAL looks at her in exasperation and then says,”This is suhag raat girl… you wont understand. One friend told me toi use oil… and look I have used it. Another friend told me to break the charpoi… look I have broken it. ANd a third advised me to use the Nirodh… and look I have made
Big baloons out of it !!!!!?”
Tehelka magazine reports that there is a school in Ahmedabad, that was Modi’s brainchild, where students(mostly those whose families had RSS backgrounds), work in three shifts and each of them have created as many as 1,000 email ids. Their job is to post comments on every website where a Modi article or comment appears, and also blog about him. This is obviously one of the ‘control rooms’ managed by the BJP.
The poor, backbone of any Indian polls, do not access the ‘Net and neither do they care about ideological blah blah. They are managed by area goons and gully bullies, who heard them along to the polling stations, and ask them to vote for a particulr candidate. For the lower middle class, money talks as well as the fear of losing life, limb and property. Fear is the key; Insecurity help decide and chose the candidate for those people..
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. One day Shahjahan was worried. I
asked him ” What is the problem my friend?” He said ” Brother Modi ! I
am thinking of creating a spectacular monument for my beloved. Do you
think Red stone will be appropriate ?” I said ” Are you mad, My friend
Shahjahan? I have made “a monument of love for my wife” in our village.
This monument has wall-to-wall marble stone, a new kind of stone only
available in the Gujarat.” He said ” Are you telling me truth my brother
Modi ? I said ” have I ever “fekued” before with you my brother
Shahjahan?” He said ” Please send me marble stones tomorrow itself. I
will transfer money online in just few minutes.” My Brothers and Sisters
and Mothers ! He transferred money online to me,I sent marbles to
Shahjahan. That’s how the beautiful Taj Mahal finally got built ! My
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Taj Mahal is Gujarat’s gift to this
World : Feku Modi
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. You all must have heard about Mr
Amitabh Bachhan . Some time back he was an MP. I asked him to quit
politics and act on the Television. I gave him a BREAK on TV. I asked
him to promote Gujarat on Television. People started liking him. Seeing
his performance, Sony TV offered him a small Programme KBC and slowly he
is now becoming a Superstar. My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers !
Gujarat gave Mr Amitabh Bachhan, the superstar to this country: Feku
Modi
#Feku would not have been such a big hit – had Modi exercised some restraint. His PR blitzkrieg has ruffled more than a few feathers – both within and outside BJP. I won’t be surprised if the ’sangh parivar’ lent a helping hand in helping to trend #Feku.
Modi did it always. Earlier he mostly spoke in Gujarati. People thought he played to the local gallery. Now he started giving speeches in Hindi and to a varied audience. The language might have changed, but the content and pitch hasn’t. It’s just that more people have started observing his gaffes. He definitely gets carried away and pushes envelop of gloating. He falls back on his past success with audience and he thinks the audience is lapping up everything. He actually thinks the audience is very “ill-informed” and he can get away by giving a little semblance of background context and false statistics. Then ofcourse add a bit of Nationalism, and lo the the pudding is ready for the audience !
Modi did it always. Earlier he mostly spoke in Gujarati. People thought he played to the local gallery. Now he started giving speeches in Hindi and to a varied audience. The language might have changed, but the content and pitch hasn’t. It’s just that more people have started observing his gaffes. He definitely gets carried away and pushes envelop of gloating. He falls back on his past success with audience and he thinks the audience is lapping up everything. He actually thinks the audience is very “ill-informed” and he can get away by giving a little semblance of background context and false statistics. Then ofcourse add a bit of Nationalism, and lo the the pudding is ready for the audience !
Congress paid guys have really lost it. Posting by kilos with low level of content just shows their imbecile crooked brain. Of course they believe that certain journalists anyway in their payroll will take this as the word of the janta
You keep moaning about the BJP trolls and boffins. But we the janta moan about paid joiurnos and paid news. We mourn that the journalists like you will not write about crony capitalism Vadra represnts as your own hand is fed by the same cookie jar.
If you want respect, then give us a few articles on Rajiv Gandhis loot as an Indian Airlines pilot (govt jobs dont allow you to be agents of foreign companies) and Vadra’s land loot in Rajasthan and Haryana.
Vir Sanghvi, Just like One Singhvi (Lawyer) u r shameless. R u not capable of doing something else (other than trying to fool people writing something false just cause u r slaved to/ paid.)
BJP Ghost Buster Reply: April 15th, 2013 at 10:18 am
When a dog runs with his tail inside his legs,
You know it’s a BJP troll, pity n mercy he begs;
Here comes BJP Ghost Buster…. BJP Ghost Buster ;
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Vir has killed the credibility of the media, though credit should also go to the likes of Barkha Dutt. No one takes this armchair writer seriously, anyway. Anyway, these fossils (including the Congress) will never understand what social media is all about and how it operates and use it just to boost their TRPs. They try to see in it a mirror image of themselves: Corrupt and arrogant. How shameless can one get, Vir?
When somebody picks up a phone and abuses others, it’s not about the telephone, it’s about the person. Similarly Social Media is just a platform. Some use it to collectively abuse, some use it for social benefits.
So it’s about you. One does not have to understand the Social Media. People need to understand you and your conduct on the Social Media.
Dear Sanghvi,
With the recent Delhi Court judgement on 1984 Sikh Genocide, do you still have any doubts as to who is the ACTUAL YAMARAJ and MAUT KA SAUDAGAR? Wake up man. Get out of the box thinking.
Nice post. Though your point about left is intriguing.
Left’s political space is being challenged by ultra-left , regional parties and campaigns like Hazare / Kejriwal (Look closely – the non-class underpinnings for participative politics was very much seen the in those campaigns).
Thanks firstly for admitting Pappu Fail Ho Gaya! Priyanka is the best bet! Sonia has failed! Yes, so even Pappu Ki Amma has failed. And we want Indira Gandhi back, eh? Indira Gandhi gave a free run to Rajiv and Sanjay, both agents for foreign defence companues. With Priyanka, we have the Mr 10 per cent aka JijaG! Great Mr Murthy, you will surely get a Congress ticket… to hell that India will be if the Congress comes back.
It is most disheartening to notice that, instead of concentrating on national issues like economy growth, poverty, corruption,crime ,drought etc, political parties are fighting for the ’self goal”
There is a big comedy going on in India. We have a reluctant talentless dynast who has an army of willing NAUKERS who wan to make him a king. All becasue these naukers will loot the raj tijori becasue once this dumb pappu is anointed, they will have a free run.
These naukers are in politics and in media. They are also a few chosen crony capitalists!
Let us all Indians kick thse cronies into the Yamuna river!
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. By now you all know the milk in the
tea you drink comes from Gujarat. The opposition accuses Gujarat to be
4th Milk Producing State. They call my assertion as “MODI FICTION”, but I
call it “MODIFICATION”. I modified to my State’s advantage. What’s
wrong in there ? I did this for Gujarat. But that’s not the point. There
is more to the story. Once Tarun Gogoi came to see me. Tarun Gogoi, you
know. Oh! You don’t know him? He is trying to copy my achievement. He
is trying to become the CM for the 3rd time. Yes, he came to see me
once. I offered him a drink. He said ” Sir ! This does not taste like
Coffee” ! “What’s this hot drink?” I took him to my kitchen garden and
showed him a new “LEAF”. I said ” Look ! This is the leaf that was
boiled to make that special drink for you. This is called ‘TEA’ “. My
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Since then Assam is growing Tea. My
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers !! Not only Milk, but Tea is also a
contribution of Gujarat to this World ! : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. You will be happy know that the
Industrial Design and Production of Kolkata famous Rasogalla was done in
Gujarat. : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. You all have heard of “Bande
Mataram”. You have not heard ? Perhaps you have heard of the MODIfied
“Vande Mataram”. Once Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay visted me. I asked
him to change his surname to “Chatterjee” for “Numerical reason”. After
that his novel “Anand Math” became famous and “Bande Mataram” was
adopted up as National Song. My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Not
only that Bankim Da adopted his famous ” Muslim Character” in Anand Math
on a ” Prosperous Gujarati Muslim” ! This is not “MODI FICTION”. This
is “MODIfication” !! My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers !!! The
National Song “Vande Mataram” is based on Gujarati Literature ! : Feku
Modi
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. Once the CM of West Bengal visited
me secretly. He was desperate. I asked him “What is the problem? Why do
you look so worried ?” He said ” I want to create a bridge across Ganga.
The Engineers are saying it is not possible to build a Cable Supported
Bridge. My engineers have failed me.I do not know what to do !” I
laughed. I drove him to Bhavnagar in a Jeep. I took out a 8 cell torch
and switched it on and said ” Look what I have done my old ‘Lakkadia
pul’ !! The moment the torch light fell on the new bridge the West
Bengal CM ran towards the bridge leaving his “Rubber Chappals” behind
holding his “half-loose dhoti”. He started singing happily ” This is
what I want ! This is what I want ! Mr Modi! You are such a visionary !
You see everything in advance !!! ” I want this kind of Cable Supported
Bridge across at Howrah across Ganga !” My Brothers and Sisters and
Mothers ! I sent him my Engineers and they constructed the famous Cable
Supported Howrah Bridge !! : Feku Modi
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how com you allow such rougue journalists to submit Blogs on your esteemed newspaper. Is there any ethics left in journalism? How come you allow it and not find it strange that he may be charging from somebody to write.It is a shame not the Blogger butb on your esteemed paper.
Duggal is actually RAHUL gandhi himself I read on some blog. The quality of ideas behind him shows that he is not even good at giving corny stuff…. much like Pappu original…
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers.You see all these Anti-Rape protests
in Delhi. Have you ever seen such protests in my Gujarat ? No. You have
never seen and you will never see. Why ? Ask my “Why” ? Ask me. Ask me
na! Ask me “why”? It’s simple. Because there is no rape in my Gujarat.
Ask me “how did I manage this”? Ask me. Ask me na ! I read this rape
sape problem in newspapers. I was very worried. I thought rape would be
against Gujarat Asmita. But how to prevent rape ? Then I thought of a
brilliant idea. I researched on the root cause of rapes. I realized
because men and women are forced to stay separate from each other, rape
happens. But suppose I bring them together then nobody will rape a woaman
or a child ! I made a grand plan to bring men and women together so that
rape could be prevented in Gujarat. Now I organise a dance show once a
year where all men and women come together. I named this dance as
dandiya. This has become very popular. Since it’s organised once a year,
I extended it for 9 days. So that all men and women could come together
and fulfill all their desire. My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers !
Since the time I introduced Dandiya in my Gujarat, there is no rape in
my Gujarat ! This is not a MODI FICTION, this is MODIfication. : Feku
Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. You all know I have a little
problem with my VISA. But I am not sitting tight. I have been preparing
myself, working hard on my foreign policies. Ask me “how?” Ask me. Ask
me na ! You see my PR agency is very efficient and has been working very
hard. The other day, it fixed my “foreign tour to West Bengal”. I was
very well received there. There was a RED carpet rolled out for me. But
you know I am a nationalist. I did not walk on the red carpet. It
reminded me of Communists. My host, the Head of the Govt. of West Bengal
in Eastern India continent was very happy at my gesture. I saw pot
holes all over this country West Bengal. But you know I am a
Nationalist. I do not offend my host. I said communists have really
spoiled this great country West Bengal. Now the head of Govt. my sister
Mamta Di is trying very hard to restore the glory of this country. My
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. ! I had a very successful Foreign
Tour. It’s great for my image at home. This is not MODI FICTION at all.
This is only MODIfication. : Feku Modi
Breaking News : Feku Modi is on his 2nd leg Foreign Tour. He is
scheduled to visit a very progressive country Tamil Nadu in
Beyond-Vindhya Continent next week.
Feku Modi has decided to extend his Foreign *** Study Tour to a
CORRUPTION FREE country Karnataka. He has decided to learn the
corruption free techniques from the Karnataka Govt. and plan to
implement the same in his country Gujarat.
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. You must be thinking whole India
has corruption. Why is that my Gujarat has no corruption. Ask me “why
?”. Ask. Ask me na ! You see during last Kumbh mela, I sent everybody to
Kumbh to take Sahi Snan. I allowed them special Grant. I took all 7
year budgets of RTE, NGREA and bought them train Tickets and Tents to
stay during Kumbh Mela. Don’t call this corruption. I did for my
Gujarat ! Akhilesh had tough time managing Kumbh. But I told him this
Kumbh is special. He will be remembered in Gujarat always. Infact I
offered Akhilesh the “son of Gujarat soil” title. He is the only
Non-Gujarati to have this. My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! After
taking dip at Kumbh mela, all my Gujarati log have become “non-corrupt”.
Now nobody in Gujarat drinks. Nobody eats non-veg. Everybody worships
only work. : Feku Modi
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers.Everybody today is debt ridden. Ask
me “how?”. Ask me. Ask me na ! Farmers, individuals, companies …you
name it, you will find everybody is debt ridden. Debt ridden farmers are
committing suicide. Company owners are running from the law.
Individuals are going for more debt to clear the past debt. But my
Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! There is one individual who is
heavily under debt, but he does not think like others. He is no other
than your priya, chahita Modi. You know Modi ! That’s I, ME, MYSELF ! I
am also heavily debt ridden. I have decided to get rid of this Debt. I
have decided to become the Prime Minister of this country so that I can
pay my Debt ! This is not MODI FICTION. This is MODIfication !! : Feku
Modi
Shallow, vague, cliched rhetoric. We expect something well-researched, and certainly nuanced from you Vir. Get your act together. This piece does not add anything to what is already being talked about – the usual shallow rhetoric!
I think there has been an over use of the term Islamophobia. Everytime a terrorists kills a few innocents in the name of Islam a bunch of motivated people stand up and start crying that in case you blame Muslims, we will call you Islamophobes.
So the best way out is to tell our Muslim brothers and sisters, that unles you whole heartedly condemn and punish the jahils who create Islamic terror, people will start assuming that you condone their acts, because after all thye claim they are doing it to further Islamic goals.
Almost every Pakistan leader and Army Officer are always defend the terrorism in Kashmir .They are saying that Its Freedom Fighting in the Favour Kashmir .They are always saying that its Kashmir struggle not terrorism .
There is a tendency among Indians to believe that Imran Khan would do wonders for India-Pakistan relationship and will quell the terrorists. This is I think partly fueled by the hypnotic appeal 40 year old plus aunties in the Indian media see in him because they once saw Imran the pace bowler coming in to bowl from the pavilion end with wild hair flowing!
Nothing will be further away from the truth.
Imran once on the PM seat will use his considerable influence over Indian media to rake up the Kashmir issue, stoke terrorism and play it like a cricket game which can be won by ball tampering
You are possibly right. But Im the Dim imran lacks the intellect to realise that pakistan is an historical mistake. Its perennial existential crisis is due to the fact that it has no basis to exist. It cannot be resolved unless it bites the bullet of its miscreation.
Imran Khan is a an extension of Jamat-e-Islami, a man with terrorist mindset. Let us not forget how he inflamed the passion of religious bigots on Quran burning.
He is basically an ideological terrorist who should be shunned.
Hey Vir – why didn’t you bring Congi twiterati here to support you. Ya, I am writing this sitting in Nagpur. Crazy man, I know you all are losing the power but please don’t lose your brain before that
Anonymous Reply:
November 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Shenoy,
The day is near when this dynasty will abandon orphans like Digvijay and moved to Italy or may be end up in Tihar Jail.
Robert vadra has been acting a piggybank for nehru-gandhis for past 7 years..when time come they will dump this idiot and run away with all the loot.
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